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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2017 - 7:44 AM ET #101

    MY LINES............................................

    Rockets -7.46 over OKC
    Spurs -11.59 over Grizz
    Clips -3.53 over Jazz


    Clips line is -3 without Griffin, my line is Clips -3.53 with Griffin in the lineup.

    I didn't know Gobert was back for game 4 or would have taken action on Jazz, but also didn't know Heyward was sick , but many times sick players do play and play well.

    Lean ....Jazz .....tonight and may take some action later.
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    MY LINES............................................

    Rockets -7.46 over OKC
    Spurs -11.59 over Grizz
    Clips -3.53 over Jazz


    Clips line is -3 without Griffin, my line is Clips -3.53 with Griffin in the lineup.

    I didn't know Gobert was back for game 4 or would have taken action on Jazz, but also didn't know Heyward was sick , but many times sick players do play and play well.

    Lean ....Jazz .....tonight and may take some action later.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2017 - 8:14 AM ET #102

    Spurs in a must win situation tonight, we'll find-out what this team is made of, when Spurs need a win what do they turn to ? Yep, good ole reliable .....Defense.....

    Lean Spurs game UNDER    At this time ......

       ........ we post official pick later.

    Spurs -9.5 over Grizz --- 4.4 units
    Spurs -5.5 over Grizz --- 2.2 units

    OKC +7.5 over Rockets --- 4.4 units
    OKC 1st half +4.5 --- 2.2 units


    I'll post plays now just in-case I don't make it back before game-time, but we need to waitout the lines , if Spurs line goes to 10.5 we have no play.

    We could take action now with OKC but let's wait it out for 8 or better if possible.

    We also have another large line adjustment in OKC game on total,.....

    Lean OKC game OVER      At this time ......

    ....., will make official play later, let's wait-out this line.


    May take action on Jazz as well, will post later before game time.



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    Spurs in a must win situation tonight, we'll find-out what this team is made of, when Spurs need a win what do they turn to ? Yep, good ole reliable .....Defense.....

    Lean Spurs game UNDER    At this time ......

       ........ we post official pick later.

    Spurs -9.5 over Grizz --- 4.4 units
    Spurs -5.5 over Grizz --- 2.2 units

    OKC +7.5 over Rockets --- 4.4 units
    OKC 1st half +4.5 --- 2.2 units


    I'll post plays now just in-case I don't make it back before game-time, but we need to waitout the lines , if Spurs line goes to 10.5 we have no play.

    We could take action now with OKC but let's wait it out for 8 or better if possible.

    We also have another large line adjustment in OKC game on total,.....

    Lean OKC game OVER      At this time ......

    ....., will make official play later, let's wait-out this line.


    May take action on Jazz as well, will post later before game time.



     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2017 - 1:47 PM ET #103

    BOL, claw

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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2017 - 1:57 PM ET #104

    Quote: Really Claw? You would have that half point discourage you from making the Spurs play? You are one of the few Handicappers that I enjoy following here on Covers but I do have to ask you why? Only because I would totally pick up on this being a reverse line movement purely based off the fact that I personally think that we will have more players taking the points with Memphis tonight than we would have Spur backers laying them. Thanks Claw your reads are always with value to the covers site
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    Quote: Really Claw? You would have that half point discourage you from making the Spurs play? You are one of the few Handicappers that I enjoy following here on Covers but I do have to ask you why? Only because I would totally pick up on this being a reverse line movement purely based off the fact that I personally think that we will have more players taking the points with Memphis tonight than we would have Spur backers laying them. Thanks Claw your reads are always with value to the covers site
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2017 - 1:59 PM ET #105

    Forgot to put in your quote Claw:

    I'll post plays now just in-case I don't make it back before game-time, but we need to waitout the lines , if Spurs line goes to 10.5 we have no play.


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    Forgot to put in your quote Claw:

    I'll post plays now just in-case I don't make it back before game-time, but we need to waitout the lines , if Spurs line goes to 10.5 we have no play.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2017 - 8:35 PM ET #106

    If the Spurs line goes to 11 we have no play, as we need a 1 pt diff to closing line.


    I made a mistake with that post.  Right now line is 10.5, if it gets to 11 at many books I'd buy out onto Grizz.

    At this point I doubt it will get there.

    Still may take the under but will post later.
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    If the Spurs line goes to 11 we have no play, as we need a 1 pt diff to closing line.


    I made a mistake with that post.  Right now line is 10.5, if it gets to 11 at many books I'd buy out onto Grizz.

    At this point I doubt it will get there.

    Still may take the under but will post later.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2017 - 8:41 PM ET #107

    Quote Originally Posted by justliketoplay:

    Quote: Really Claw? You would have that half point discourage you from making the Spurs play? You are one of the few Handicappers that I enjoy following here on Covers but I do have to ask you why? Only because I would totally pick up on this being a reverse line movement purely based off the fact that I personally think that we will have more players taking the points with Memphis tonight than we would have Spur backers laying them. Thanks Claw your reads are always with value to the covers site


    We have a play with a 1 pt diff to closing line, this seems to be the point that produces winners for my lines.

    If we follow this we'll rarely finish with a losing record throughout the playoffs, this also takes into consideration public perception as the public can drive the line away or towards my lines, so in some ways it's a fade the public built into it as the public will over-react to previous games or years and my lines can measure this to some degree.
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    Quote: Really Claw? You would have that half point discourage you from making the Spurs play? You are one of the few Handicappers that I enjoy following here on Covers but I do have to ask you why? Only because I would totally pick up on this being a reverse line movement purely based off the fact that I personally think that we will have more players taking the points with Memphis tonight than we would have Spur backers laying them. Thanks Claw your reads are always with value to the covers site


    We have a play with a 1 pt diff to closing line, this seems to be the point that produces winners for my lines.

    If we follow this we'll rarely finish with a losing record throughout the playoffs, this also takes into consideration public perception as the public can drive the line away or towards my lines, so in some ways it's a fade the public built into it as the public will over-react to previous games or years and my lines can measure this to some degree.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2017 - 9:03 PM ET #108

    Spurs UNDER  188.5 --- 3.3 units
    Spurs 1st half UNDER 96.5 --- 1.1 uniuts
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    Spurs UNDER  188.5 --- 3.3 units
    Spurs 1st half UNDER 96.5 --- 1.1 uniuts
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2017 - 9:04 PM ET #109

    We have play on Spurs as line has not gone to 11.
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 7:21 AM ET #110

    Another nice night guys, we hit our 2 plays in great spots, that's 3-0 over last 2 nights we have some great spots.................................

    game --- 2-0 ATS , won 8 units
    1st half --- 1-1 ATS, lost .2 units

    totals --- 0-2, lost 4.4 units


    If you waited-out the lines some guys may have pushed or even lost Spurs 1st half, I did see it go to -6.5.


    It's a little tricky in these games with line moving, best advice is to watch the lines at sites have multiple books if line begins to move for us then wait, if it moves against us then get down quick, but then if line moves to a point we have no play on the game then you need to buy-back the other side and lose on the juice.

    The beauty of this is it does set-up an oppurtunity to middle the play eventually you'll likely to hit a middle.

    Had the Spurs went to -11 or -11.5 or even -12, buying back the Grizz would have meant a 10 pt or even 11 pt Spurs win would have caught the middle,

    Had we bought back Grizz last night we would have middled the 1st half, 

    We only want to do this when the line dictates it. Do not try this just to try it, wait untill the line movement dictates to do it.
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    Another nice night guys, we hit our 2 plays in great spots, that's 3-0 over last 2 nights we have some great spots.................................

    game --- 2-0 ATS , won 8 units
    1st half --- 1-1 ATS, lost .2 units

    totals --- 0-2, lost 4.4 units


    If you waited-out the lines some guys may have pushed or even lost Spurs 1st half, I did see it go to -6.5.


    It's a little tricky in these games with line moving, best advice is to watch the lines at sites have multiple books if line begins to move for us then wait, if it moves against us then get down quick, but then if line moves to a point we have no play on the game then you need to buy-back the other side and lose on the juice.

    The beauty of this is it does set-up an oppurtunity to middle the play eventually you'll likely to hit a middle.

    Had the Spurs went to -11 or -11.5 or even -12, buying back the Grizz would have meant a 10 pt or even 11 pt Spurs win would have caught the middle,

    Had we bought back Grizz last night we would have middled the 1st half, 

    We only want to do this when the line dictates it. Do not try this just to try it, wait untill the line movement dictates to do it.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 7:39 AM ET #111

    MY LINES........................................

    Wiz -5.8 over Hawks
    Celtics -6.32 over Bulls


    Wiz line about where we have it so no play. Lines needs to go to Wiz -7 to be play on Hawks or -4.5 to be a play on Wiz.

    We have a 1.18 diff to Celtics line on the Bulls, but the question is, how much is Rondo worth ?

    We know he is worth more then .18 so at 7.5 we have no play.

    Game 4 with Celtics -1 and my line Bulls -1.64 saw a 2.64 diff to line, big difference here. 

    The line needs to go to 9  to have the same 2.64 diff,maybe 9.5 is a better line, but very doubtful it gets to 9, but let's watch the line and see what happens.

    Will pass on both games tonight at this time.


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    MY LINES........................................

    Wiz -5.8 over Hawks
    Celtics -6.32 over Bulls


    Wiz line about where we have it so no play. Lines needs to go to Wiz -7 to be play on Hawks or -4.5 to be a play on Wiz.

    We have a 1.18 diff to Celtics line on the Bulls, but the question is, how much is Rondo worth ?

    We know he is worth more then .18 so at 7.5 we have no play.

    Game 4 with Celtics -1 and my line Bulls -1.64 saw a 2.64 diff to line, big difference here. 

    The line needs to go to 9  to have the same 2.64 diff,maybe 9.5 is a better line, but very doubtful it gets to 9, but let's watch the line and see what happens.

    Will pass on both games tonight at this time.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 7:44 AM ET #112

    Unforetunately missed a play on the Jazz last night with injuries to Griffin and my line, Clips -3.53  was the actual line, -3 ,  so we know Griffin is worth at least 2 pts.

    But hey, Jazz take control of the series and we're in good position to win our series play on Jazz, we really need Bulls to win SU tonight to keep our hopes alive for  our 2 team series parlay with the Jazz. 
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    Unforetunately missed a play on the Jazz last night with injuries to Griffin and my line, Clips -3.53  was the actual line, -3 ,  so we know Griffin is worth at least 2 pts.

    But hey, Jazz take control of the series and we're in good position to win our series play on Jazz, we really need Bulls to win SU tonight to keep our hopes alive for  our 2 team series parlay with the Jazz. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 8:42 AM ET #113

    Nice job man, always love your playoffs picks!!!
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    Nice job man, always love your playoffs picks!!!
     
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    BOL Claw

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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2017 - 3:42 PM ET #115

    ALWAYS   like ur threads  Claw  
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2017 - 8:06 AM ET #116

    Thanks for the kind words and comments guys..............................
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    Thanks for the kind words and comments guys..............................
     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2017 - 8:32 AM ET #117

    MY LINES...................................

    Bucks -.56 over Raps
    Spurs -3.59

    Close-out games we do not use my lines, we back teams that have strong indicators to win the series and the strongest indicators are .....common denominators of past champs VS a team without them ,...........and that folks is the Spurs in tonight's games.

    Let's wait-out the line and hope it drops, but if you see it rising try to get the 4, likely won't need it, Spurs should win by 7 or 8 pts or more.

    But getting the best available line is always our goal and the best thing you can do for yourself.

    A couple of fluke basket can turn a 8 pt game into a 4 pt game quick.



    Lean.....Raps +1.5 to wrap-up the series tonight.
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    MY LINES...................................

    Bucks -.56 over Raps
    Spurs -3.59

    Close-out games we do not use my lines, we back teams that have strong indicators to win the series and the strongest indicators are .....common denominators of past champs VS a team without them ,...........and that folks is the Spurs in tonight's games.

    Let's wait-out the line and hope it drops, but if you see it rising try to get the 4, likely won't need it, Spurs should win by 7 or 8 pts or more.

    But getting the best available line is always our goal and the best thing you can do for yourself.

    A couple of fluke basket can turn a 8 pt game into a 4 pt game quick.



    Lean.....Raps +1.5 to wrap-up the series tonight.
     
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    What your saying is there won't be any games played on Saturday? Basically what your saying at the end of the day
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    Good job Claw..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DollaBill215:

    What your saying is there won't be any games played on Saturday? Basically what your saying at the end of the day

    If the Raps and Spurs winning tonight  means no games on sat, then yes that is what I am saying..................................

    Raps are rolling and in control, Spurs up next.....................
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    What your saying is there won't be any games played on Saturday? Basically what your saying at the end of the day

    If the Raps and Spurs winning tonight  means no games on sat, then yes that is what I am saying..................................

    Raps are rolling and in control, Spurs up next.....................
     
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    Spurs -5 over Grizz --- 5.5 units 
    Spurs -2.5 1st half --- 2.2 units


    Hopefully you guys got a better number ...if you were able to track the line movements and get in once they started rising as we suggested.



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    Spurs -5 over Grizz --- 5.5 units 
    Spurs -2.5 1st half --- 2.2 units


    Hopefully you guys got a better number ...if you were able to track the line movements and get in once they started rising as we suggested.



     
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    Spurs get it done right at the 7 pt mark that these type powerhouse teams do in a closeout game........................................

    game 1-0 ATS, won 5 units
    1st half --- 0-1, lost 2.2 units

    leans --- 1-0
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    Spurs get it done right at the 7 pt mark that these type powerhouse teams do in a closeout game........................................

    game 1-0 ATS, won 5 units
    1st half --- 0-1, lost 2.2 units

    leans --- 1-0
     
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    Playoffs to Date................................won 26.7 units

    game --- 14-6-1 ATS, won 27.2 units
    1st half --- 10-9-1 ATS, lost 1.3 units

    totals --- 5-6-1, won .8 units

    leans --- 2-3


    We've had a nice run thus far, we need to stay the course with the info.

    Just because we haven't done as well in 1st halves or totals is meaningless.................. stay the course.

    For all we know at this point 1st halves and totals may be what does it for us going forward, info can have regressions just like teams do ...................................................
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    Playoffs to Date................................won 26.7 units

    game --- 14-6-1 ATS, won 27.2 units
    1st half --- 10-9-1 ATS, lost 1.3 units

    totals --- 5-6-1, won .8 units

    leans --- 2-3


    We've had a nice run thus far, we need to stay the course with the info.

    Just because we haven't done as well in 1st halves or totals is meaningless.................. stay the course.

    For all we know at this point 1st halves and totals may be what does it for us going forward, info can have regressions just like teams do ...................................................
     
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    MY LINES....................................................

    Hawks -2.2 over Wiz
    Bulls -1.64 over Celtics
    Jazz -4.47 over Clips

    we have a possible play on Bulls with a 3.64 diff to actual line which is the 2cd largest diif in the series thus far, only game 3 was larger with the C's getting 4 additional bonus pts for being down 0-2.

    And it comes after the C's were  pk and the public bangs it to C's -2 , oh those naughty public joe's, of course the public loves backing teams off many wins, C's off 3 ATS & SU wins , a great spot to fade the team ...IF... we have a play on my lines.

    Public is on a nice run, 2-0 and a larger 4-2 run with line movements and 3-0, and a longer 6-2 run with %'s and now C's have the highest % on them tonight at this time anyway, subject to chance before game time.

    Bulls 1st home game they were -2 and now we have a large line adjustment to Bulls +2, a 4 pt adjustment based on a over-reaction to the C's 3 game run. Unless there is some info out there causing this move, we fade such over-reactions on these adjustments.

    Now all this info is based on 1 simple thing.............How Much is Rondo Worth to the Spread ?

    Is he worth 2 pts ?........... 2.5 or more then 2.5 ?

    According to his advanced meterics I don't think so, teams have won and covered with much better players missing then Rondo, the Bulls can make adjustments and role players can play much better at home and step up in his absence .

    The public is over-reacting to that C's 3-0 run and thinking Rondo is worth more then he really is, very typical public thinking , fading that thinking is the right play over the long run.

    If the line close at C's -2 or better, we'll make a small play on Bulls, wait -out the line, , hopefully it will keep going up.

    I should be home before game time to make the officail play if we make a play.
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    MY LINES....................................................

    Hawks -2.2 over Wiz
    Bulls -1.64 over Celtics
    Jazz -4.47 over Clips

    we have a possible play on Bulls with a 3.64 diff to actual line which is the 2cd largest diif in the series thus far, only game 3 was larger with the C's getting 4 additional bonus pts for being down 0-2.

    And it comes after the C's were  pk and the public bangs it to C's -2 , oh those naughty public joe's, of course the public loves backing teams off many wins, C's off 3 ATS & SU wins , a great spot to fade the team ...IF... we have a play on my lines.

    Public is on a nice run, 2-0 and a larger 4-2 run with line movements and 3-0, and a longer 6-2 run with %'s and now C's have the highest % on them tonight at this time anyway, subject to chance before game time.

    Bulls 1st home game they were -2 and now we have a large line adjustment to Bulls +2, a 4 pt adjustment based on a over-reaction to the C's 3 game run. Unless there is some info out there causing this move, we fade such over-reactions on these adjustments.

    Now all this info is based on 1 simple thing.............How Much is Rondo Worth to the Spread ?

    Is he worth 2 pts ?........... 2.5 or more then 2.5 ?

    According to his advanced meterics I don't think so, teams have won and covered with much better players missing then Rondo, the Bulls can make adjustments and role players can play much better at home and step up in his absence .

    The public is over-reacting to that C's 3-0 run and thinking Rondo is worth more then he really is, very typical public thinking , fading that thinking is the right play over the long run.

    If the line close at C's -2 or better, we'll make a small play on Bulls, wait -out the line, , hopefully it will keep going up.

    I should be home before game time to make the officail play if we make a play.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcmanus:

    Good job Claw..


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