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#51
Kareem is pissed at the LA Lakers cause the Lakers made a statue for Magic Johnson, but not for him
Kareem or Shaq
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#52
Quote Originally Posted by scsiegel89:
yes, but that does not answer the question. In their respective prime's, Shaq would have dominated the shit out of Kareem, Bill Russel, ANYBODY. I totally agree his prime was short and he could have had several more rings, but if their teams were to have played a theoretical game that could have occurred. in their respective best prime year, Shaq would have eaten up Kareem. End of story
yes, but that does not answer the question. In their respective prime's, Shaq would have dominated the shit out of Kareem, Bill Russel, ANYBODY. I totally agree his prime was short and he could have had several more rings, but if their teams were to have played a theoretical game that could have occurred. in their respective best prime year, Shaq would have eaten up Kareem. End of story
Kareem would of eaten up Shaq with sky hooks. End of story
Shaq would have eaten up Kareem
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#59
Quote Originally Posted by Raines:
Russell all day long. As for Shaq or Kareem. Shaq is an entertaining. Everybody loves Shaq. Kareem was a severe ASSHOLE. Only in the last year of his playing time did he try to become more fan/media friendly. Prime example, look how he behaved on ESPN about not being appreciated. Don't want to leave Wilt out of the conversation either. As for the topic at hand, Kareem and the hook were impossible to defend, but with Shaq's size, in a league with few centers that could guard him made him seem like the Superman tat on his shoulder. Head to head, with both in there prime Shaq would have punished Kareem, hands down.
Russell all day long. As for Shaq or Kareem. Shaq is an entertaining. Everybody loves Shaq. Kareem was a severe ASSHOLE. Only in the last year of his playing time did he try to become more fan/media friendly. Prime example, look how he behaved on ESPN about not being appreciated. Don't want to leave Wilt out of the conversation either. As for the topic at hand, Kareem and the hook were impossible to defend, but with Shaq's size, in a league with few centers that could guard him made him seem like the Superman tat on his shoulder. Head to head, with both in there prime Shaq would have punished Kareem, hands down.
My point exactly
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#60
Quote Originally Posted by scsiegel89:
I highly doubt that sky hooks would have been as efficient as Shaq pummeling through Kareem for a slam through dunk or running past him on the break for a Shaq slam.
I highly doubt that sky hooks would have been as efficient as Shaq pummeling through Kareem for a slam through dunk or running past him on the break for a Shaq slam.
You mean Shaq getting charging fouls almost every play. Or even better yet Shaq going to the foul line. 
That would of been great comic relief. Bottom line Shaq may of been dominate for a few years but that was it. Very short time line of greatness
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#61
Quote Originally Posted by Lippsman:
You mean Shaq getting charging fouls almost every play. Or even better yet Shaq going to the foul line.
That would of been great comic relief. Bottom line Shaq may of been dominate for a few years but that was it. Very short time line of greatness
Again you are missing the point. It doesn't matter how short Shaq's greatness was, all that matters is that his greatness was greater than Kareem's by a long shot. The only way to stop Shaq is to foul him. So how is Kareem going to stay in this hypothetical game for Sky Hooks over Shaq if he is on the bench with constant foul trouble? Hmmm..... Hmmmmm... Hmmmmm.... Hmmmmmm
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#62
Quote Originally Posted by scsiegel89:
Again you are missing the point. It doesn't matter how short Shaq's greatness was, all that matters is that his greatness was greater than Kareem's by a long shot. The only way to stop Shaq is to foul him. So how is Kareem going to stay in this hypothetical game for Sky Hooks over Shaq if he is on the bench with constant foul trouble? Hmmm..... Hmmmmm... Hmmmmm.... Hmmmmmm
Again you are missing the point. It doesn't matter how short Shaq's greatness was, all that matters is that his greatness was greater than Kareem's by a long shot. The only way to stop Shaq is to foul him. So how is Kareem going to stay in this hypothetical game for Sky Hooks over Shaq if he is on the bench with constant foul trouble? Hmmm..... Hmmmmm... Hmmmmm.... Hmmmmmm
I'm guessing you have never ever seen Kareem play have you ? And if you can stop someone by fouling them and they can't make a FT, then they are not that great. And every single team made sure the fouls were spread around so no one was in foul trouble. You did watch Shaq play right ?????
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#63
Quote Originally Posted by Lippsman:
I'm guessing you have never ever seen Kareem play have you ? And if you can stop someone by fouling them and they can't make a FT, then they are not that great. And every single team made sure the fouls were spread around so no one was in foul trouble. You did watch Shaq play right ?????
If you look at Shaq's MVP season in 99-00, which obviously you never watched, he hit close to 60% of his free throws, which were quite often. Obviously that sucks, but its far away from not making a free throw as you so claim. And another one of your claims about no one being in foul trouble. Bull shit. If you were guarding Shaq, you had two options and TWO OPTIONS ONLY. 1: Get scored on. 2: Foul him. That's all. There was no defense on Shaq.
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#64
Quote Originally Posted by scsiegel89:
If you look at Shaq's MVP season in 99-00, which obviously you never watched, he hit close to 60% of his free throws, which were quite often. Obviously that sucks, but its far away from not making a free throw as you so claim. And another one of your claims about no one being in foul trouble. Bull shit. If you were guarding Shaq, you had two options and TWO OPTIONS ONLY. 1: Get scored on. 2: Foul him. That's all. There was no defense on Shaq.
If you look at Shaq's MVP season in 99-00, which obviously you never watched, he hit close to 60% of his free throws, which were quite often. Obviously that sucks, but its far away from not making a free throw as you so claim. And another one of your claims about no one being in foul trouble. Bull shit. If you were guarding Shaq, you had two options and TWO OPTIONS ONLY. 1: Get scored on. 2: Foul him. That's all. There was no defense on Shaq.
Yeah, guess he had one great year. You hold onto that.
We will just agree to disagree.
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#65
Two totally different type players & hard to compare different eras. Shaq much more dominant with his size/strength, D & rebounding vs probably the best offensive center of all time along with Wilt. Wilt was so much bigger & stronger than the guys he played against most of his yrs (similar to Shaq) & didn't play nearly as strong/physical as Shaq, but was still more talented. Russell probably the best defensively & Olajuwon the best all-around - O, D, blocked shots, even steals. For their eras, wouldn't rank Shaq in the top 3 even in his prime - Wilt, Russell & Hakeem with maybe him & Jabbar tied for 4th.
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