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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2020 - 5:21 PM ET #176

    Cole won't even check the lineup. He will just get in his 30 pitch workout and experiment with a couple things, new pitch, rhythm, whatever. Work on signs with the catcher. Good chance if you ask him after the game who he faced, he won't even remember.
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Cole won't even check the lineup. He will just get in his 30 pitch workout and experiment with a couple things, new pitch, rhythm, whatever. Work on signs with the catcher. Good chance if you ask him after the game who he faced, he won't even remember.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2020 - 5:54 PM ET #177

    Hey Key, Creighton just won 81-59 as 5 pt favs, the atm is still spitting out cash.

    Do you have any tickets to any upcoming spring games?
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    Hey Key, Creighton just won 81-59 as 5 pt favs, the atm is still spitting out cash.

    Do you have any tickets to any upcoming spring games?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2020 - 6:22 PM ET #178

    I am going to shut up about Creighton sac, easiest money on the planet and noone is noticing. When the brackets are released you will see a lot of "how in Hades did they get seeded that high!".

    I am taking my time on the S.T. tickets. Most of my crowd in town mid-March and we have several planned. It will be more enjoyable when the weather heats up (only 59 right now) and the AA players are weeded out. Who wants to watch veterans that aren't even loose yet get in 2 innings or 2 at-bats and sit down. Some don't even stay on the bench, just head for the locker room and ignore the rest of the game. If they are not interested why should I be?

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    I am going to shut up about Creighton sac, easiest money on the planet and noone is noticing. When the brackets are released you will see a lot of "how in Hades did they get seeded that high!".

    I am taking my time on the S.T. tickets. Most of my crowd in town mid-March and we have several planned. It will be more enjoyable when the weather heats up (only 59 right now) and the AA players are weeded out. Who wants to watch veterans that aren't even loose yet get in 2 innings or 2 at-bats and sit down. Some don't even stay on the bench, just head for the locker room and ignore the rest of the game. If they are not interested why should I be?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2020 - 7:01 PM ET #179

    Well sac, the latest guru in the forum has a thread with 15 posts and 14 of them are his own. When does the light click on?
     
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    Well sac, the latest guru in the forum has a thread with 15 posts and 14 of them are his own. When does the light click on?
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2020 - 7:30 PM ET #180

    Good point. No rush to see games like that, unless you want to get out.

    59, 2 beers and a hot dog sound good to me right about now.
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    Good point. No rush to see games like that, unless you want to get out.

    59, 2 beers and a hot dog sound good to me right about now.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 8:49 AM ET #181

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Good point. No rush to see games like that, unless you want to get out.

    59, 2 beers and a hot dog sound good to me right about now.
    I see that 49 would look good to you right now. We should get back into the high 60's today. Not great but going up daily. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Good point. No rush to see games like that, unless you want to get out.

    59, 2 beers and a hot dog sound good to me right about now.
    I see that 49 would look good to you right now. We should get back into the high 60's today. Not great but going up daily. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 9:37 AM ET #182

    This one's for you ODB. I think we should go to BigD's place and crash for free, and fish for a week or 2.


    https://www.wired2fish.com/news/anglers-weigh-49-pound-limit-of-bass-this-weekend/
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    This one's for you ODB. I think we should go to BigD's place and crash for free, and fish for a week or 2.


    https://www.wired2fish.com/news/anglers-weigh-49-pound-limit-of-bass-this-weekend/
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 10:05 AM ET #183

    All are welcome. It would be a nice break from the internet war I’m in ATM
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 10:42 AM ET #184

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    All are welcome. It would be a nice break from the internet war I’m in ATM

     

    F*ck em D, we all know who are the stand up guys here. It starts with class and respect man. Most the kids on here don't know anything about those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    All are welcome. It would be a nice break from the internet war I’m in ATM

     

    F*ck em D, we all know who are the stand up guys here. It starts with class and respect man. Most the kids on here don't know anything about those.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 12:23 PM ET #185

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:


    Sign me up for these:

    Reds OVER 83.5 Wins(-125) 1.25/1.00

    Cubs UNDER 86.5 Wins(-115) *2.30/2.00

    Cardinals UNDER 88.5 Wins(even) *1.00






    Adding:

    Texas Rangers OVER 79.5(-105) *1.05/1.00

    They won 78 last year. And to think that they will only improve by 1.5 wins with the acquisitions they made is quite surprising. 

    Last year, a little over than a 3rd of the innings pitched by the Rangers were from pitchers with an ERA over 5.75. There wasn't much there after Minor, Lynn and Allard.

    This year they are bringing in Kyle Gibson, Jordan Lyles and Corey Kluber to the starting rotation. 

    Kluber is the wildcard, he only threw 35.2 innings last year in an injury riddled year. The dude took a line drive off of his arm and it broke. It's a little concerning because pitchers who get hurt like that will sometimes carry those memories. But, it's Corey frigin' Kluber. What if he bounces back? If he's even 75% of "prime" Kluber, he will be better than any Jurado, Payano, Volqueuz or Hearn. He looks to be #5 in the rotation, how can that be bad?

    Do many people even know who Jordan Lyles is? He played for Pitt and the Brew Crew last year. Did you know, that the Brewers went 10-1 in games that Jordan Lyles pitched? That dude has some brass gonads. Most guys don't do that well after a trade considering the added pressure, change of scenery, moving into a new home etc...As a Brewer, he had a 2.45 ERA, allowed a BA of .202, with an 1.11 whip. Even pitching in the same division where the rest of the NL Central knew him. So the guy ended last year on a major roll, now he is with a new club with a new stadium(similar to Miller Park) and ready to prove it again. #4 starter material? Money.

    Kyle Gibson didn't have a year like in 2018, or did he? His ERA went from 3.62 to 4.84, BA allowed from .238 to .272. He went from a 10-13 record in 2018, to a 13-7 record in 2019...So, the Twins basically said "Screw you, we don't need you now that we have an offense". I think he wasn't so bad last year, maybe some what unlucky, and maybe he threw more "get me over" strikes because he was playing with a big lead most of the time. His BABIP went from .285 to .330. In 2019 he had the highest K% of his career at 22.7%, best K-BB% of 14.7%, and best xFIP at 3.80. At 32 is he declining? Hard to say, I don't think the Twins should of let him go. But what do I know, they are the Yankees of the Midwest and don't need arms apparently. Gibson #3 in the rotation? Works for me.

    Offensively, don't forget that Joey Gallo is only 26 years old and didn't play after July 23rd when he got hurt. They added the "Todd Father" Frazier to the clubhouse. Not anything eye popping by the numbers, but he has a motor that doesn't stop and is a great add in terms of experience and team chemistry. Where ever he goes he seems to make the game fun and enjoyable for his teammates. Pretty damn good glove and arm at 3rd as well.

    Center field will be a problem, decent at the corners, and will the old Rougned Odor come back? We'll see. 

    Remember fellas, the open sweltering furnace in Arlington is gone. That place was a launch pad. Their new stadium is retractable, and they will have air conditioning(fascinating new technology) So don't think that the Astros and A's are going to come into this park and hit the ball around the yard like in the past, and certainly not against a Starting 5 that has drastically gotten stronger from last season.

    Good Luck 
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:


    Sign me up for these:

    Reds OVER 83.5 Wins(-125) 1.25/1.00

    Cubs UNDER 86.5 Wins(-115) *2.30/2.00

    Cardinals UNDER 88.5 Wins(even) *1.00






    Adding:

    Texas Rangers OVER 79.5(-105) *1.05/1.00

    They won 78 last year. And to think that they will only improve by 1.5 wins with the acquisitions they made is quite surprising. 

    Last year, a little over than a 3rd of the innings pitched by the Rangers were from pitchers with an ERA over 5.75. There wasn't much there after Minor, Lynn and Allard.

    This year they are bringing in Kyle Gibson, Jordan Lyles and Corey Kluber to the starting rotation. 

    Kluber is the wildcard, he only threw 35.2 innings last year in an injury riddled year. The dude took a line drive off of his arm and it broke. It's a little concerning because pitchers who get hurt like that will sometimes carry those memories. But, it's Corey frigin' Kluber. What if he bounces back? If he's even 75% of "prime" Kluber, he will be better than any Jurado, Payano, Volqueuz or Hearn. He looks to be #5 in the rotation, how can that be bad?

    Do many people even know who Jordan Lyles is? He played for Pitt and the Brew Crew last year. Did you know, that the Brewers went 10-1 in games that Jordan Lyles pitched? That dude has some brass gonads. Most guys don't do that well after a trade considering the added pressure, change of scenery, moving into a new home etc...As a Brewer, he had a 2.45 ERA, allowed a BA of .202, with an 1.11 whip. Even pitching in the same division where the rest of the NL Central knew him. So the guy ended last year on a major roll, now he is with a new club with a new stadium(similar to Miller Park) and ready to prove it again. #4 starter material? Money.

    Kyle Gibson didn't have a year like in 2018, or did he? His ERA went from 3.62 to 4.84, BA allowed from .238 to .272. He went from a 10-13 record in 2018, to a 13-7 record in 2019...So, the Twins basically said "Screw you, we don't need you now that we have an offense". I think he wasn't so bad last year, maybe some what unlucky, and maybe he threw more "get me over" strikes because he was playing with a big lead most of the time. His BABIP went from .285 to .330. In 2019 he had the highest K% of his career at 22.7%, best K-BB% of 14.7%, and best xFIP at 3.80. At 32 is he declining? Hard to say, I don't think the Twins should of let him go. But what do I know, they are the Yankees of the Midwest and don't need arms apparently. Gibson #3 in the rotation? Works for me.

    Offensively, don't forget that Joey Gallo is only 26 years old and didn't play after July 23rd when he got hurt. They added the "Todd Father" Frazier to the clubhouse. Not anything eye popping by the numbers, but he has a motor that doesn't stop and is a great add in terms of experience and team chemistry. Where ever he goes he seems to make the game fun and enjoyable for his teammates. Pretty damn good glove and arm at 3rd as well.

    Center field will be a problem, decent at the corners, and will the old Rougned Odor come back? We'll see. 

    Remember fellas, the open sweltering furnace in Arlington is gone. That place was a launch pad. Their new stadium is retractable, and they will have air conditioning(fascinating new technology) So don't think that the Astros and A's are going to come into this park and hit the ball around the yard like in the past, and certainly not against a Starting 5 that has drastically gotten stronger from last season.

    Good Luck 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 3:11 PM ET #186

    Long write up and even longer wait to cash a 1U play but I agree with this whole heartedly.  And no this is not the fan in me talking
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 3:57 PM ET #187

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    Cole opens a -175 "home" fav for tomorrow.

    He'll probably pitch only 1 inning 


    I'll take the bucco's +155 for 1 unit flat, first Spring play of the year.

    GL

    Chris Archer got scratched, so the odds shot up to -210/+180
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    Cole opens a -175 "home" fav for tomorrow.

    He'll probably pitch only 1 inning 


    I'll take the bucco's +155 for 1 unit flat, first Spring play of the year.

    GL

    Chris Archer got scratched, so the odds shot up to -210/+180
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 3:57 PM ET #188

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    Long write up and even longer wait to cash a 1U play but I agree with this whole heartedly.  And no this is not the fan in me talking
    If it takes 6 months and he makes 95% on his investment that is a pretty good rate of return. Is your 401k doing that well?
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    Long write up and even longer wait to cash a 1U play but I agree with this whole heartedly.  And no this is not the fan in me talking
    If it takes 6 months and he makes 95% on his investment that is a pretty good rate of return. Is your 401k doing that well?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 3:58 PM ET #189

    Gerrit Cole is going to be laying -400 in the regular season on a regular basis, that's great.
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    Gerrit Cole is going to be laying -400 in the regular season on a regular basis, that's great.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    If it takes 6 months and he makes 95% on his investment that is a pretty good rate of return. Is your 401k doing that well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    If it takes 6 months and he makes 95% on his investment that is a pretty good rate of return. Is your 401k doing that well?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 4:39 PM ET #191

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:


    Chris Archer got scratched, so the odds shot up to -210/+180
    Strong line-up for the Yankees: LeMachine, El Kraken, Gleyber, Gardy, Stanton, Urshela, Frazier, so free money


    On a serious note, spring training for me is like a whole other sport, betting wise, i am utterly clueless
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    Chris Archer got scratched, so the odds shot up to -210/+180
    Strong line-up for the Yankees: LeMachine, El Kraken, Gleyber, Gardy, Stanton, Urshela, Frazier, so free money


    On a serious note, spring training for me is like a whole other sport, betting wise, i am utterly clueless
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2020 - 5:09 PM ET #192

    OK sac, I only got +175 but am riding YOUR buccos. You better be right or you owe me another premium 12 pack. (BTW you haven't paid off the first one yet).
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    OK sac, I only got +175 but am riding YOUR buccos. You better be right or you owe me another premium 12 pack. (BTW you haven't paid off the first one yet).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    If it takes 6 months and he makes 95% on his investment that is a pretty good rate of return. Is your 401k doing that well?


    you picked a helluva day to ask that question  
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    If it takes 6 months and he makes 95% on his investment that is a pretty good rate of return. Is your 401k doing that well?


    you picked a helluva day to ask that question  
     
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    Another point about the mathematics of gambling. That +175 I took could have been +1.5, -120 if I thought the +1.5 run line was a "sharp" play. Really? -120 has a per-dollar win value of 83 cents, so; 175 - 83 = 92 cents on the dollar LESS value and you need an exact 1 run loss by the buccos (or a full game tie) or it makes no difference whatsoever. Trap city, sportsfans.
      

     
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    Another point about the mathematics of gambling. That +175 I took could have been +1.5, -120 if I thought the +1.5 run line was a "sharp" play. Really? -120 has a per-dollar win value of 83 cents, so; 175 - 83 = 92 cents on the dollar LESS value and you need an exact 1 run loss by the buccos (or a full game tie) or it makes no difference whatsoever. Trap city, sportsfans.
      

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    This one's for you ODB. I think we should go to BigD's place and crash for free, and fish for a week or 2.


    https://www.wired2fish.com/news/anglers-weigh-49-pound-limit-of-bass-this-weekend/
    Been getting real jealous of looking at this site lately. You got a preference on soft baits for ned rigs? Was looking at some of the lunker city baits
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    This one's for you ODB. I think we should go to BigD's place and crash for free, and fish for a week or 2.


    https://www.wired2fish.com/news/anglers-weigh-49-pound-limit-of-bass-this-weekend/
    Been getting real jealous of looking at this site lately. You got a preference on soft baits for ned rigs? Was looking at some of the lunker city baits
     
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    I can't believe they pulled Cole after 1 inning

    Odb, for prespawn bass the chaterbait is a killer. Slow rolling rattle traps is always good too.

    For spawing bass, I like slow rolling a swim jig near lilly pad stems. Or dropping stick baits or finesse jigs on their beds till it pisses em off enough to eat it.

    For ned rigs specifically, the zman elaztech's are great.
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    I can't believe they pulled Cole after 1 inning

    Odb, for prespawn bass the chaterbait is a killer. Slow rolling rattle traps is always good too.

    For spawing bass, I like slow rolling a swim jig near lilly pad stems. Or dropping stick baits or finesse jigs on their beds till it pisses em off enough to eat it.

    For ned rigs specifically, the zman elaztech's are great.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    OK sac, I only got +175 but am riding YOUR buccos. You better be right or you owe me another premium 12 pack. (BTW you haven't paid off the first one yet).

    Either patient or just old n slow 

    I never seen any spring training lines as high as this year, it's a joke really
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    OK sac, I only got +175 but am riding YOUR buccos. You better be right or you owe me another premium 12 pack. (BTW you haven't paid off the first one yet).

    Either patient or just old n slow 

    I never seen any spring training lines as high as this year, it's a joke really
     
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    The Yankees got their first hit in the 4th inning, then Stanton grounds into a DP

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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    I can't believe they pulled Cole after 1 inning

    Odb, for prespawn bass the chaterbait is a killer. Slow rolling rattle traps is always good too.

    For spawing bass, I like slow rolling a swim jig near lilly pad stems. Or dropping stick baits or finesse jigs on their beds till it pisses em off enough to eat it.

    For ned rigs specifically, the zman elaztech's are great.
    got a ton of chatter baits and plastics that i bought late in the season last year that i never used. can't wait to bust them out. got quite a few strike kings and old school bill lewis lures for rattle traps. love them red eyed shads as well
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    I can't believe they pulled Cole after 1 inning

    Odb, for prespawn bass the chaterbait is a killer. Slow rolling rattle traps is always good too.

    For spawing bass, I like slow rolling a swim jig near lilly pad stems. Or dropping stick baits or finesse jigs on their beds till it pisses em off enough to eat it.

    For ned rigs specifically, the zman elaztech's are great.
    got a ton of chatter baits and plastics that i bought late in the season last year that i never used. can't wait to bust them out. got quite a few strike kings and old school bill lewis lures for rattle traps. love them red eyed shads as well
     
     
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    The Pirates pull off a push, base hit with 2 outs in the top of the 9th. First bet of the season all ready has us sweating, typical.

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