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#401
trim88----cool stories man. Please, let us know when you have any plays in mind. Report to this thread immediately 
Minimum needed to live the dream
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#402
Quote Originally Posted by trim88:
There is one very interesting MLB tilt I'm looking at. It's on Saturday. The Rays Hellickson goes against the Blue Jays Buehrle; Hellickson is the slowest worker in MLB, 26 sec. between pitches...Buehrle is the fastest worker, 19 sec. between pitches. It'll be roaring hot at 1PM on Toronto's artificial surface. Even if Mark gets ripped, at least the Jays get to play baseball. The poor Rays will be roasting in the hot sun, with their thumbs up their keisters, standing around, doing nothing, while watching a professional pitcher pitch. I love the Blue Jays ML in this one.
There is one very interesting MLB tilt I'm looking at. It's on Saturday. The Rays Hellickson goes against the Blue Jays Buehrle; Hellickson is the slowest worker in MLB, 26 sec. between pitches...Buehrle is the fastest worker, 19 sec. between pitches. It'll be roaring hot at 1PM on Toronto's artificial surface. Even if Mark gets ripped, at least the Jays get to play baseball. The poor Rays will be roasting in the hot sun, with their thumbs up their keisters, standing around, doing nothing, while watching a professional pitcher pitch. I love the Blue Jays ML in this one.
rogers center is indoors temp is regulated i thought
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#404
The percentage of people who actually make a living sports betting is miniscule--that 25k you mention would be gone in a month or less--You're fooling yourself with fairy tale dreams like this--best thing is to get a decent job in Vegas and just bet for fun and profit when you can make it--all that other stuff a pie-in-the sky dream never going to come true--But if thats what you want go for it,maybe you'll be one of the 1 in 1million--peoplewill tell that they don't build those huge casinos giving away money--not to mention the lights etc etc--sports can be brutal to win at like any other thing even with an rigid displine.I sense you'dwant to be out ther swinging on the Vegas scene, that style may not work.You should go ahead and try it though and after you fail(and you will) so what? You gotta give it a shot if thats your dream
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#405
Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:
Let me clarify
If you are going to rent an apartment the cheapest you will find is maybe a studio for around 500 a month
so thats 6500 for the year including security deposit
You will have BillsAnd any 500$ a month pad is going to be a dump in crime infested area--of which Vegas has many--alot of other folks who tried to"live the dream" and ended up donating to Steve wynn(orwhoever)
Electric,gas,cable and or satalite, phone and internet with the summers and winters lets say your total for these bills is another 300 per month
thats 3600 per year
You will need a car, Lets say your car is payed off just to be nice with insurance and gas and maintenence you are looking at 300 per month
thats another 3600 for the year
now food, dining in dining out going out to movies, dating once in a while if you have a life say another 400 per month, Im being ultra conservative here on a tight behind budget
thats 4800 per year
add medical insurance another 150 per month thats 1800 per year
from bottom to top
1800
4800
3600
3600
6500
thats 20K to 23K depending on your life style
Now in order for you to have a chance in hell of being successfull You will need that money just to live on for 12 calender months
Now you need a bankroll
trying to win 100 per day is not feasable Its just not
You will have to be ultra selective and bet a nickle a game until you reach a desired goal for the month a desired goal would be 3k
Pay attention here its the most valuable lesson in this reply
You need to come up atleast 7 wagers won over the wagers you lost.
You are giving yourself 30 calender days to reach this goal, its the only way to make this type of move without going bust
so 500 a day is what you must have for wagering with the swings of wins and losses you need 500 a day x 60 days atleast 30K
so I was wrong when I said 100K You need atleast 50K
thats my opinion and in my case if I ever decided to do something so irresponsible I have a family, I would need atleast 150K because my expenses are double to tripple.
But good luck.
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#406
Quote Originally Posted by sfg8:
that's what i thought as well...rogers ctr is indoors...btw tampa won 4-3..maybe nxt time...
that's what i thought as well...rogers ctr is indoors...btw tampa won 4-3..maybe nxt time...
Rogers Ctr. has a retractable roof; the game was played outdoors. But, I lost...for perhaps the 2,500th+ time!!!
BTW, my best year EVER on even money action was 62.7 percent...(1994).
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#407
what amazes me about reading this entire thread is how....mafioso continually patronized nyslim for his choices and his lieing......and for months kept saying hes gone, but nyslim kept posting and was doing fine....but suddenly mafioso moves to vegas and he has been giving the same posts that nyslim was for so long....surprise, surprise...only on covers, where everybodys a winner......maybe nyslim stopped posting because he got a life and got sick of people making judgement calls that were negative on every positive post that he put on here....but here is mafioso making the same posts that nyslim put on here when he moved....funny how the tide turns..
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#409
Who says I moved to Vegas?
I was planning on doing so and when I did I was planning on opening a restaurant like I have now, I am not stupid enough or selfish enough to risk my familys future on a vegas pipe dream.
Yes I have had a great run with Live betting but thats all it is a GREAT RUN.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Selective reading, another reason you young people are pathetic and will always work for big mean bosses like me.
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#411
I know with a name like mafioso....of course your a high scale boss...what was i thinking.....lol....and a big mean boss on top of it...what a joke you are....keep posting about everyone elseslife choices, and then post every time that you happen to win money....big bad boss.....look out...your like a telephone tough guy, come see you in real life and we'll all have a good laugh at the pathetic human that you are...
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#413
Quote Originally Posted by melosjumper7:
I know with a name like mafioso....of course your a high scale boss...what was i thinking.....lol....and a big mean boss on top of it...what a joke you are....keep posting about everyone elseslife choices, and then post every time that you happen to win money....big bad boss.....look out...your like a telephone tough guy, come see you in real life and we'll all have a good laugh at the pathetic human that you are...
I know with a name like mafioso....of course your a high scale boss...what was i thinking.....lol....and a big mean boss on top of it...what a joke you are....keep posting about everyone elseslife choices, and then post every time that you happen to win money....big bad boss.....look out...your like a telephone tough guy, come see you in real life and we'll all have a good laugh at the pathetic human that you are...
In the words of greater men then myself.
Go f*ck yourself
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#414
Quote Originally Posted by warrenator:
The percentage of people who actually make a living sports betting is miniscule--that 25k you mention would be gone in a month or less--You're fooling yourself with fairy tale dreams like this--best thing is to get a decent job in Vegas and just bet for fun and profit when you can make it--all that other stuff a pie-in-the sky dream never going to come true--But if thats what you want go for it,maybe you'll be one of the 1 in 1million--peoplewill tell that they don't build those huge casinos giving away money--not to mention the lights etc etc--sports can be brutal to win at like any other thing even with an rigid displine.I sense you'dwant to be out ther swinging on the Vegas scene, that style may not work.You should go ahead and try it though and after you fail(and you will) so what? You gotta give it a shot if thats your dream
The percentage of people who actually make a living sports betting is miniscule--that 25k you mention would be gone in a month or less--You're fooling yourself with fairy tale dreams like this--best thing is to get a decent job in Vegas and just bet for fun and profit when you can make it--all that other stuff a pie-in-the sky dream never going to come true--But if thats what you want go for it,maybe you'll be one of the 1 in 1million--peoplewill tell that they don't build those huge casinos giving away money--not to mention the lights etc etc--sports can be brutal to win at like any other thing even with an rigid displine.I sense you'dwant to be out ther swinging on the Vegas scene, that style may not work.You should go ahead and try it though and after you fail(and you will) so what? You gotta give it a shot if thats your dream
I totally agree with the main points made in the above quote. But don't let anyone tell you not to live your dream, like warrenator suggests - even if you fail, meh. HK
The problem is it's highly unlikely that you will ever accrue $25k to test your dream theory out.
Your dream sort of reminds me of the many gold prospectors who wasted their time chasing after their dream but never realizing it. It's laudable to try and fail imo.
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#415
Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel_Hunter:
Good post, I am considering doing this Oct. of 2014 when I retire. My pension will be $14,000/ yr or so and will have about $10K in savings. Places seem to be dirt cheap there.
Good post, I am considering doing this Oct. of 2014 when I retire. My pension will be $14,000/ yr or so and will have about $10K in savings. Places seem to be dirt cheap there.
Places here are not as cheap as they were a year ago. Low inventory and investors have raised prices. The prices could still seem low to you depending on where you live now, but the prices here are on the rise.
I bought here in Aug 2012 partly to bet sports. I think the best way to do this is to have a full time job that covers everything including saving for retirement. With "extra" money build a bankroll and start betting as a % of bankroll. Keep adding to bankroll through winnings and extra savings. We saved $10k and I started my bankroll with that. I'll add a few k to that every year and hopefully increase through winnings also. I plan on working for 5 more years then retiring. Hoping to have my bankroll at $50k or more at that time, then use the sports betting gig as a supplement to my income in retirement.
I'd love to be able to walk away now and just bet sports (living the dream), but my bankroll is not large enough to bet enough to make a living and I have yet to prove that I can win every year. I'm giving myself 5 years of working full time in Vegas, betting as if I had no other job and seeing what happens. The worst that can happen is losing my $10k stake, I'll still retire in 5 years. BOL to all that try to make a living betting on sports.
Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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#417
It really all comes down to preparation and discipline. Never overbet your stake, 2% of bankroll should be the maximum bet size per wager. Its imperative you manage your bankroll and only increase bets as bankroll grows. if you have 10k your max bet should be 200$ to ensure the swings dont bankrupt you, and ther WILL be swings. Never chase losses and never double up. Take a loss and come back tommorrow. It is VITAL to keep accurate records of your results in order to make adjustments to your strategy and to keep losses to a minimum. Be very selective do not invest in 8-12 games a day, 3-5 plays are more than enough if you have experience and consistently hit between 54-60%.
GL to all, this is not impossible and many make a great living of of investing in sports. Sports wagering when pursued sensibly involves the same deductive reasoning skills as trading a put or a call option in the financial markets. Realizing an attractive risk adjusted retrun whether it exists in the stock market, treasury bond or a baseball game is a prudent investment.
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#419
Quote Originally Posted by IPICKGAMES:
It really all comes down to preparation and discipline. Never overbet your stake, 2% of bankroll should be the maximum bet size per wager. Its imperative you manage your bankroll and only increase bets as bankroll grows. if you have 10k your max bet should be 200$ to ensure the swings dont bankrupt you, and ther WILL be swings. Never chase losses and never double up. Take a loss and come back tommorrow. It is VITAL to keep accurate records of your results in order to make adjustments to your strategy and to keep losses to a minimum. Be very selective do not invest in 8-12 games a day, 3-5 plays are more than enough if you have experience and consistently hit between 54-60%.
GL to all, this is not impossible and many make a great living of of investing in sports. Sports wagering when pursued sensibly involves the same deductive reasoning skills as trading a put or a call option in the financial markets. Realizing an attractive risk adjusted retrun whether it exists in the stock market, treasury bond or a baseball game is a prudent investment.
Great advice.
Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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#421
I have a very good friend who has made A living playing Poker and Betting Sports.He is 55 Years old and has done this for 30 plus years.He lives on the East Coast half the time and Vegas the other half.He sets rules and follows
1..He Bets the same on each game
2...He does not Bet for Action...if there are 5 Games he likes he Bets all 5..if he does not see anything for 5 Days he will not bet.
3 Very rarely does he go into the casino to play other games(only when other friends are in town)and he will play very low stakes and feels very lucky to walk out with a few bucks
4..He plays poker about 40- 50 hours a week.
5 He is not A Smoker,very very light Drinker and stays away from the strip clubs where You will spend a to. He works out most days and is very Healthy
6...He does not win every Day,week or Month and there have been a few not so good years.however he has done very well.
I feel A person can do this under A strick set of rules,how ever can most people do this...The answer is No...We are Human and most will Blow it if you have A big win on something else and most will try to chase losses and lose 10 in a row(which has happened to everyone)and Blow the Bank Roll.....I hope this info helps and Best of Luck to us all!!!
1..He Bets the same on each game
2...He does not Bet for Action...if there are 5 Games he likes he Bets all 5..if he does not see anything for 5 Days he will not bet.
3 Very rarely does he go into the casino to play other games(only when other friends are in town)and he will play very low stakes and feels very lucky to walk out with a few bucks
4..He plays poker about 40- 50 hours a week.
5 He is not A Smoker,very very light Drinker and stays away from the strip clubs where You will spend a to. He works out most days and is very Healthy
6...He does not win every Day,week or Month and there have been a few not so good years.however he has done very well.
I feel A person can do this under A strick set of rules,how ever can most people do this...The answer is No...We are Human and most will Blow it if you have A big win on something else and most will try to chase losses and lose 10 in a row(which has happened to everyone)and Blow the Bank Roll.....I hope this info helps and Best of Luck to us all!!!
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#422
Quote Originally Posted by Beergut:
If you think you want to 'live the dream' and move to Vegas and make a living as a sports bettor/poker player/professional gambler, how much money do you need?
At a minimum, I think it would be $25000, if not more. Figure you need $10000 to pay for one year in rent at an apartment, including any security deposit. You need a $10000 bankroll to start out with, at a minimum, because even if you are betting small and only winning $100 a day, that bankroll ensures you 100 days of betting.
The last $5000 I would keep in a bank account as an emergency non-gambling fund. If it doesn't work out and you go bust, you will at least have enough money to go back home and start getting on with your life. If you tried to live the dream and failed, no shame in that, at least you made your attempt. Start saving again, hope you learn from your lessons, and decide if you want to take another shot.
Anyone went out there who is currently living the dream? How much did you take out there to get started? How long did it take you to become self-sufficient, where your winnings were paying for your living expenses?
If you think you want to 'live the dream' and move to Vegas and make a living as a sports bettor/poker player/professional gambler, how much money do you need?
At a minimum, I think it would be $25000, if not more. Figure you need $10000 to pay for one year in rent at an apartment, including any security deposit. You need a $10000 bankroll to start out with, at a minimum, because even if you are betting small and only winning $100 a day, that bankroll ensures you 100 days of betting.
The last $5000 I would keep in a bank account as an emergency non-gambling fund. If it doesn't work out and you go bust, you will at least have enough money to go back home and start getting on with your life. If you tried to live the dream and failed, no shame in that, at least you made your attempt. Start saving again, hope you learn from your lessons, and decide if you want to take another shot.
Anyone went out there who is currently living the dream? How much did you take out there to get started? How long did it take you to become self-sufficient, where your winnings were paying for your living expenses?
This is the most amazing post iv seen in a very long time. I really believed I was the only one that is planning this. I will Let you know how my dream turns out. I am in the process of taking $50,000 out to vegas and making a run at my dream. This 50k is only for the poker and sports book dream all other expenses are coming from separate funds .
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#423
Quote Originally Posted by newyorkslim:
This dream is my reality. I am leaving on the 11th. I bought a condo for cash in Summerlin and a 4k car. Left my GF of 5 years as she thought the idea was crazy. Buffalo will always be here if I go bust.
I love it!!!!!!!!! Good luck my friendThis dream is my reality. I am leaving on the 11th. I bought a condo for cash in Summerlin and a 4k car. Left my GF of 5 years as she thought the idea was crazy. Buffalo will always be here if I go bust.
Monthly nut appears to be about 1k. My plan is to stay away from the tables and just bet sports.
I am not wondering if I will do well. I know I will.
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#424
Slim and Beergut may be gone. trim88. Haleiwa is rugged to handle, it is the North Shore after all. My Rockpiles is the south shore, much more manageable. On the north shore I go to soft spots like Chun's Reef or Puena Pt. longer ago I went to Jocko's and Laniakea.
I may be trying this spot near Kewalo's called Straight Outs. A church friend told me come out and give it a try as the crowd is mellow. Rockpiles is getting so crowded with stand up paddle boarders, long boarders, short boarders like me, lots of instructionals with their beginners. I manage to get some waves but not like in my younger days when I could paddle better. Injured my foot paddle boarding and has taken awhile for me to heal up. Surfing recreationally is great way for me to stay in shape and keep in tune with nature and the younger generation. My regular friends my age are cool but none surf so I am on my own.
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#425
Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel_Hunter:
Good post, I am considering doing this Oct. of 2014 when I retire. My pension will be $14,000/ yr or so and will have about $10K in savings. Places seem to be dirt cheap there.
Good post, I am considering doing this Oct. of 2014 when I retire. My pension will be $14,000/ yr or so and will have about $10K in savings. Places seem to be dirt cheap there.
Heard u can buy a home for 60k there. Probably a repo. Lots of islanders have transmigrated to US mainland. Some have done very well in CA, AZ, WA and other locations. The high cost of living here has kept many away from returning. An article here said a home sold here might get 6 or 7homes say in Detroit, MI. 420k divided by 60k. Probably freeze there, heat might kill me in NV or at least the AC bills. The place won't make you happy if you are not happy IMO.
Most of us are searching for external or material rewards for our happiness. I learned a long time ago that you need a combination of health, wealth and harmony to have happiness and then it will all be temporary as life itself.!
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