Posted:
#451
good story
good read.
good read.
bigFnPOO
Minimum needed to live the dream
Posted:
#453
To all the potential LV bound Dreamers:
If you didn't WIN before you got here; what makes you think you're going to WIN when you get here? on the flip side, LV turns dreams into nightmares. throughout this thread all you hear about is 'survival' 'cheap places to reside' cheap, cheap, and more cheap! and the acceptance of $100 a day to survive! you call this a dream? I see it as an irresponsible nightmare, especially when one overlooks employment, and depends solely on his gaming revenues to 'survive' this does not work, and puts you on a one way ticket to absolutely nowhere. Forget about it! do your well being a favor. Come in, spend 72 hrs, gamble at your chosen games of chance, WIN, and go home..or lose and absorb your LOSS and go home. relocating without a job is totally absurd! If not, Vegas will eat you alive, shitt you out in the desert, only to end up where you started from in the first place, minus your deleted bankroll. Been here for 24 years, I work in the industry, have seen this more often than not. keep it a dream, that's all it's ever going to be, "A Dream"
Posted:
#454
Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:
To all the potential LV bound Dreamers:
If you didn't WIN before you got here; what makes you think you're going to WIN when you get here? on the flip side, LV turns dreams into nightmares. throughout this thread all you hear about is 'survival' 'cheap places to reside' cheap, cheap, and more cheap! and the acceptance of $100 a day to survive! you call this a dream? I see it as an irresponsible nightmare, especially when one overlooks employment, and depends solely on his gaming revenues to 'survive' this does not work, and puts you on a one way ticket to absolutely nowhere. Forget about it! do your well being a favor. Come in, spend 72 hrs, gamble at your chosen games of chance, WIN, and go home..or lose and absorb your LOSS and go home. relocating without a job is totally absurd! If not, Vegas will eat you alive, shitt you out in the desert, only to end up where you started from in the first place, minus your deleted bankroll. Been here for 24 years, I work in the industry, have seen this more often than not. keep it a dream, that's all it's ever going to be, "A Dream"
That is what I call TELLING IT THE WAY IT REALLY IS
I am coming back to Vegas October 15th thru October 20th, allow me to treat you to a Dinner
Scarpetta or Prime Steak house
Im solo on this trip, My wife and Kids cant come along since they are planning a Trip to the Philippines in December during my daughters christmas vacation from her elementary school.
Id love to chat with a Vegas Old hand 24 years your an old hand
Posted:
#459
Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:
True,
True,
Let me be as open and honest as I can be
Graduated high school in 1992
2 years of college before it drove me insane
Culinary school 1994 to 1996
worked at a couple of high end Italian restaurants in La Jolla CA and the gas lamp district before it became the Gaslamp District as we know it today.
Betting since the superbowl in 1996 when the packers beat the spread vs the pats by a hook
Won my first wager ever that super bowl
1997 bet the NFL Playoffs and did great
Now the Nitty Gritty
1998 OH HOW I STILL FEEL LIKE A CRACK HEAD CHASING THAT FIRST HIGH.
I was Money the entire season
Even quit my job after week 5 (HOW STUPID WAS THAT?)
didnt have a losing week the entire season
17 weeks
4 weeks of playoffs without losing, not only not losing but I MADE OVER $58,000.00 after expenses rent everything
I WINED AND DINED like KING and all my QUEENS every night of the week.
I started week 1 with 600 dollars
I found a closed pizzeria in El Cajon CA
I asked why a place like that would be closed since it was in the heart of of that city?
I had heard bad management rude behavior towards customers ...
I leased it
with all equipment there
paid 1st month last month and double security deposit
and I went off on an advertising campaign that cost me well over 30K the first 4 months.
Opened up 3 more before selling them all in 2002
in between that time
1999 to 2002 I got smoked losing nearly 20K a year
I didnt understand what happened NOW I DO
I GOT LUCKY
LUCKY
Lucky
lucky
all Luck
I learned from it I know every mistake i made along the way.
how the hell was I sooooo stupid to bet a 500 3 team parlay for the morning games hit that bet the 3500 on a 2 teamer in the afternoon then bet it all on the sunday night game
that is what I did in 1998 I did it twice and nailed it twice.
When reality hit it hit me hard
My restaurants were all a success
they saved me but I didnt profit a cent due to my gambling losses and my lifestyle of dining, escorts and fast cars.
I sold all my restaurants in 1998 to a crazy Palestinian guy who at the time i felt overpaid me.
so here i am flush with cash, and completely burnt out from the restaurant business.
I bought a house near an area called dictionary hills in Spring Valley, stole it right before the housing boom at 180K
and I rented it out and left the country
traveled all over South East Asia
Made my visa runs in Guam
Came back in 2004 to San Diego CA
tenants had moved out, and I look at my cash and I need a job, still burnt from the restaurant Biz, a friend suggested dealing at Barona valley ranch.
they had their own Blackjack dealing school and if hired you get your money back for the school.
I jumped on it
After 4 years and carpel tunnel I had the itch again for the restaurant business but this time I wanted a bar too
a sportsbar
and thats where Iv been since
I sold it Last year for 350K guy who bought it gave me 100K down then he failed to make payments on what was left
Before he destroyed the business entirely I protected my investment and gave him back 50K and Iv rebuilt the damage he caused.
If I sell again, it will be all cash.
Point Im making is
I learned the hard way, and if this forum is to help with our REAL LIFE experiences then who better than a LUCKY FOOL who had that elusive year of incrediblenous then had 4 successful restaurants but didnt see a dime of profit because the fool was a fool and a fool and his money are soon parted.
Great story man. Just curious when you started with 600 bucks in 98 and had that crazy winning season in football what were you average bet sizes to get that to kind of bank roll?
Posted:
#461
week 1
If i remember correctly
I hit a 100 dollar 4 teamer to start the morning games
then I was all over the place like some idiot without a thing to lose.
550 straight bets, 550 two team teasers, 200 dollar 3 team parlays.
Win Win Win Win Win everything, by week 4 I bought a new car
By week 5 I quit my job
by week 9 I was up 30K after all that
eating at the finest restaurants
banging every single Whaore in clubs like Bolero, Chicago Club, Adalitas
Made friends with all the cops that Patrolled Caliente sportsbook
Took them out for food, drinks and Women.
Superbowl that year was Denver vs Packers, I pounded Denver and Over in Parlay
the over straight
Denver Straight
Not one losing week, I was so dumb and young and stupid, it didnt hit me until the next season just how did I do what I did?
I learned quick after though.
Somehow i had a horseshoe up my A$$ the size of the rocky statue in Philly.
Nothing i could do was wrong, and it lasted the entire season.
I was living in Spring Valley CA, a 15 minute drive to TJ Mexico where wagering is legal.
I practically lived in TJ.
I would have lost every penny the year after, but i wanted my own restaurant desperately.
Its the only thing that saved me.
in the end and lets be honest
I profited 59,000 after absurd living expenses
A Jeep Grand Cherokee
and the start of my business
in 3 short years I lost 60 grand
Only thing that saved me was my desire to own my own restaurant.
So, If I didnt have that desire then where would I be?
Probably still working for someone else without any shot at what i have now.
Posted:
#463
Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:
$100000 At least for 1 football season... Mafioso you painted a realistic picture... Cool story... So when are you going to be back in the game again lol
$100000 At least for 1 football season... Mafioso you painted a realistic picture... Cool story... So when are you going to be back in the game again lol
LOL Never, Im only good at betting 330 a game these days and praying Im even or ahead at seasons end, although the last few years have been good to me, Im married for 11 years now 2 kids real responsibilities.
I lost my 1 shot Balls Years ago
Still looking for them lol
Posted:
#468
Maf, i hear you... In Vegas they move pretty quick... Unless if its one of those blood bath plays that the public is all over... Was there for nba and prior to march madness chasing steam on some 1H & part running... Luckily my Boston plays were all coming thru... Was really high on them this year... Well if you can make it out there in June i will be on the strip just in case... Never played at the lvh as its off the strip,, no idea why they keep changing names lol...
Posted:
#469
Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:
True,
True,
Let me be as open and honest as I can be
Graduated high school in 1992
2 years of college before it drove me insane
Culinary school 1994 to 1996
worked at a couple of high end Italian restaurants in La Jolla CA and the gas lamp district before it became the Gaslamp District as we know it today.
Betting since the superbowl in 1996 when the packers beat the spread vs the pats by a hook
Won my first wager ever that super bowl
1997 bet the NFL Playoffs and did great
Now the Nitty Gritty
1998 OH HOW I STILL FEEL LIKE A CRACK HEAD CHASING THAT FIRST HIGH.
I was Money the entire season
Even quit my job after week 5 (HOW STUPID WAS THAT?)
didnt have a losing week the entire season
17 weeks
4 weeks of playoffs without losing, not only not losing but I MADE OVER $58,000.00 after expenses rent everything
I WINED AND DINED like KING and all my QUEENS every night of the week.
I started week 1 with 600 dollars
I found a closed pizzeria in El Cajon CA
I asked why a place like that would be closed since it was in the heart of of that city?
I had heard bad management rude behavior towards customers ...
I leased it
with all equipment there
paid 1st month last month and double security deposit
and I went off on an advertising campaign that cost me well over 30K the first 4 months.
Opened up 3 more before selling them all in 2002
in between that time
1999 to 2002 I got smoked losing nearly 20K a year
I didnt understand what happened NOW I DO
I GOT LUCKY
LUCKY
Lucky
lucky
all Luck
I learned from it I know every mistake i made along the way.
how the hell was I sooooo stupid to bet a 500 3 team parlay for the morning games hit that bet the 3500 on a 2 teamer in the afternoon then bet it all on the sunday night game
that is what I did in 1998 I did it twice and nailed it twice.
When reality hit it hit me hard
My restaurants were all a success
they saved me but I didnt profit a cent due to my gambling losses and my lifestyle of dining, escorts and fast cars.
I sold all my restaurants in 1998 to a crazy Palestinian guy who at the time i felt overpaid me.
so here i am flush with cash, and completely burnt out from the restaurant business.
I bought a house near an area called dictionary hills in Spring Valley, stole it right before the housing boom at 180K
and I rented it out and left the country
traveled all over South East Asia
Made my visa runs in Guam
Came back in 2004 to San Diego CA
tenants had moved out, and I look at my cash and I need a job, still burnt from the restaurant Biz, a friend suggested dealing at Barona valley ranch.
they had their own Blackjack dealing school and if hired you get your money back for the school.
I jumped on it
After 4 years and carpel tunnel I had the itch again for the restaurant business but this time I wanted a bar too
a sportsbar
and thats where Iv been since
I sold it Last year for 350K guy who bought it gave me 100K down then he failed to make payments on what was left
Before he destroyed the business entirely I protected my investment and gave him back 50K and Iv rebuilt the damage he caused.
If I sell again, it will be all cash.
Point Im making is
I learned the hard way, and if this forum is to help with our REAL LIFE experiences then who better than a LUCKY FOOL who had that elusive year of incrediblenous then had 4 successful restaurants but didnt see a dime of profit because the fool was a fool and a fool and his money are soon parted.
Thank You Mafioso For being sharing this story, you're one of the real honest guys on this forum. Ive been woring in the industry since 1995 here in Vegas, Like sports_Network, I've seen my far share of sad stories. This City will eat you up. Thanks again for keeping it real so maybe some of the wishful thinkers with grand plans of making easy money will think twice.
Posted:
#470
I have a cousin who has lost
1) his business
2) his wife
3) his home
EVERYTHING, He is 54 years old he Blew 2 of his kids college money
but most of all he has become a menace a cockroach to most of us.
When we see him coming most try to find an excuse to get away as he is going to ask for money.
What he has done to his brother is even more disgusting, stolen money.
grabbed his legs in public while begging for forgiveness all to get a few hundred and run to the casino to reclaim all that he has lost.
What he has lost is more then what I mentioned above
He has lost his
manhood
respect
honor
and Dignity
Yeah Brother this can get ugly, real ugly if you let it get a hold of you.
Posted:
#472
Mostly live betting MLB Jay
Ill be in Vegas October 15 thru Oct 20th
Have had a rough few weeks
Just tested and I have type 2 Diabetes so Im doing everything I can to bring the blood sugar down and learning how to eat healthy.
My dad has early onset dementia, He refuses any kind of treatment and is living with my sister in San Diego now,'Just been a rough few weeks for me and my family.
Posted:
#474
I don't want to say too much, but I will be returning to LV before the NFL season starts. Am retired, have a secure pension from NV and SSA, almost at 50K per year based upon my work and my deceased wife's tenure as a teacher. Moreover, before going in a few weeks, I secured a part time job at $5k per year for 3 months work, as I don't want to work too much at my age. I lived in LV for over 14 years during my earning years and it was very good to me and my wife as employees, but not gamblers. Unfortunately, she died there of cancer at an early age. Of course, that was in the late 80's and early 90's before all the minorities moved in.
With a retirement investment account which I could live on until I'm a 100 without any pension, I think it is time to try to go back and have some fun with minimal football bets. I think this is the only way you can survive there. Any other way, I would advise against trying to make it. When I lived there, so many of my friends were in bankruptcy court. So many tried to live the dream, but they ended up broke.
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