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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:10 PM ET #101

    Incredible...3:30  to 4:00 pm oughta be a thing to behold.
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    Incredible...3:30  to 4:00 pm oughta be a thing to behold.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:15 PM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by WinLoseorDraw:

    if their was ever a time for the government to get sneaky it the auction for lehmans cds

    fix the damn auctions !!!!

    Kenan Thompson on SNL last night, FIX IT!!!!!! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinLoseorDraw:

    if their was ever a time for the government to get sneaky it the auction for lehmans cds

    fix the damn auctions !!!!

    Kenan Thompson on SNL last night, FIX IT!!!!!! 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:32 PM ET #103

    I think we're going to test the 7,950-8,000 range again and then surprisingly rise into close around 8,250-8,300.  But then again, what the hell do I know.
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    I think we're going to test the 7,950-8,000 range again and then surprisingly rise into close around 8,250-8,300.  But then again, what the hell do I know.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:37 PM ET #104

    Aside from a brief drop in 2002, these are basically the lowest levels since 1997.  11 years of market gains wiped out.  The scary thing is from a chart look there doesn't seem to be much support under 7,500 until 4,000.  It was basically a straight shot from 4,000 to almost 8,000 between '95 and '97.
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    Aside from a brief drop in 2002, these are basically the lowest levels since 1997.  11 years of market gains wiped out.  The scary thing is from a chart look there doesn't seem to be much support under 7,500 until 4,000.  It was basically a straight shot from 4,000 to almost 8,000 between '95 and '97.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:37 PM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by whereismyhat:

    Can you use Funds not settled to buy stocks?


    Depends..usually you can do it once in a while and not get an account restriction.

    Scottrade lets you..
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    Quote Originally Posted by whereismyhat:

    Can you use Funds not settled to buy stocks?


    Depends..usually you can do it once in a while and not get an account restriction.

    Scottrade lets you..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:40 PM ET #106

    So is this already at this point the most precipitous market drops since the great depression?  I think it is.  I still don't think we reach depression era type stuff.  I just still have to believe we have so much more in place and so much more going on now that we would be able to weather it better.  Just hard to believe otherwise.
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    So is this already at this point the most precipitous market drops since the great depression?  I think it is.  I still don't think we reach depression era type stuff.  I just still have to believe we have so much more in place and so much more going on now that we would be able to weather it better.  Just hard to believe otherwise.
     
    jaxwhitey
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:41 PM ET #107

    WTF   Sharebuilder is down and I can't trade a fvckin thing

    I hate that shyt site again.  I am going to throw my laptop across the room
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    WTF   Sharebuilder is down and I can't trade a fvckin thing

    I hate that shyt site again.  I am going to throw my laptop across the room
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:43 PM ET #108

    Well this atomic drop has no support, especially since the market is frozen to a degree and the players are not in to create any sort of normalicy to this drop.
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    Well this atomic drop has no support, especially since the market is frozen to a degree and the players are not in to create any sort of normalicy to this drop.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:44 PM ET #109

    apparantly this letter was just sent out to major hedge funds....i just got it in my inbox
    --------------------------------------------------

    / Mr. -----
       Senior Managing Director ----- Partners
       -------
       New York, NY 10022 /

       /Dear Mr. ------: /

       /The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is conducting an
       investigation into the causes and effects of the financial crisis on
       Wall Street. As part of this investigation, the Committee will be
       holding a hearing on the role of hedge funds in our financial
       markets and their regulatory and tax status. I am writing to request
       your testimony about these issues before the Committee on Thursday,
       October 16, 2008, at 10:00 a.m. in Room 2154 of the Rayburn House
       Office Building. /

       /I ask that you be prepared to testify about whether hedge funds,
       including yours, pose systemic risks to the financial markets;
       whether the lack of federal regulation of hedge funds is
       appropriate; whether the terms of your compensation and those of
       other hedge fund executives promote excessive risk taking; and
       whether the special tax treatment of the compensation of hedge fund
       managers is warranted. /

       /In order to assist the Committee in preparing for this hearing, I
       ask that you provide the following documents and information for the
       time period from January 1, 2005, to the present: /

             /*1.* A list of all hedge funds under your control, the total
             assets under management of each fund at the end of each year,
             and all private placement memoranda and other reports to
             investors relating to those hedge funds. /

             /*2.* Documents sufficient to show the value and nature of
             each hedge fund's position at the end of each year in
             mortgage-backed securities, collateralized debt obligations,
             credit default swaps, and other securities or derivatives, and
             the amount of leverage used by each fund. /

             /*3.* All documents, including e-mails, drafted, sent, or
             received by you relating to (a) the level of risk or leverage
             associated with your hedge funds or other hedge funds; (b) the
             likelihood that your hedge funds or other hedge funds could
             suffer significant losses or collapse; or (c) the systemic
             risk or impact on the economy that could follow from
             significant losses by or collapse of your hedge fund or other
             hedge funds. /

             /*4.* The compensation paid to you and the next two highest
             paid officers in your firm and the formula used to calculate
             this compensation. Please include with your response a table
             showing the compensation paid to each individual, broken out
             by year and type of compensation (e.g., overhead fee, carried
             interest, bonus, etc.). /

             /*5.* All documents, including e-mails, drafted, sent, or
             received by you relating to the tax treatment of compensation
             to hedge fund managers. /

       /You should provide the documents and information to the Committee
       by 12:00 noon on Thursday, October 9, 2008. In addition, I ask that
       you advise the Committee by 12:00 noon on Monday, October 6, 2008,
       whether you will comply with this request on a voluntary basis. /

       /The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is the principal
       oversight committee in the House of Representatives and has broad
       oversight jurisdiction as set forth in House Rule X. Attachments to
       this letter provide additional information for witnesses appearing
       before the Committee and about how to respond to the Committee's
       request for documents and information. /
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    apparantly this letter was just sent out to major hedge funds....i just got it in my inbox
    --------------------------------------------------

    / Mr. -----
       Senior Managing Director ----- Partners
       -------
       New York, NY 10022 /

       /Dear Mr. ------: /

       /The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is conducting an
       investigation into the causes and effects of the financial crisis on
       Wall Street. As part of this investigation, the Committee will be
       holding a hearing on the role of hedge funds in our financial
       markets and their regulatory and tax status. I am writing to request
       your testimony about these issues before the Committee on Thursday,
       October 16, 2008, at 10:00 a.m. in Room 2154 of the Rayburn House
       Office Building. /

       /I ask that you be prepared to testify about whether hedge funds,
       including yours, pose systemic risks to the financial markets;
       whether the lack of federal regulation of hedge funds is
       appropriate; whether the terms of your compensation and those of
       other hedge fund executives promote excessive risk taking; and
       whether the special tax treatment of the compensation of hedge fund
       managers is warranted. /

       /In order to assist the Committee in preparing for this hearing, I
       ask that you provide the following documents and information for the
       time period from January 1, 2005, to the present: /

             /*1.* A list of all hedge funds under your control, the total
             assets under management of each fund at the end of each year,
             and all private placement memoranda and other reports to
             investors relating to those hedge funds. /

             /*2.* Documents sufficient to show the value and nature of
             each hedge fund's position at the end of each year in
             mortgage-backed securities, collateralized debt obligations,
             credit default swaps, and other securities or derivatives, and
             the amount of leverage used by each fund. /

             /*3.* All documents, including e-mails, drafted, sent, or
             received by you relating to (a) the level of risk or leverage
             associated with your hedge funds or other hedge funds; (b) the
             likelihood that your hedge funds or other hedge funds could
             suffer significant losses or collapse; or (c) the systemic
             risk or impact on the economy that could follow from
             significant losses by or collapse of your hedge fund or other
             hedge funds. /

             /*4.* The compensation paid to you and the next two highest
             paid officers in your firm and the formula used to calculate
             this compensation. Please include with your response a table
             showing the compensation paid to each individual, broken out
             by year and type of compensation (e.g., overhead fee, carried
             interest, bonus, etc.). /

             /*5.* All documents, including e-mails, drafted, sent, or
             received by you relating to the tax treatment of compensation
             to hedge fund managers. /

       /You should provide the documents and information to the Committee
       by 12:00 noon on Thursday, October 9, 2008. In addition, I ask that
       you advise the Committee by 12:00 noon on Monday, October 6, 2008,
       whether you will comply with this request on a voluntary basis. /

       /The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is the principal
       oversight committee in the House of Representatives and has broad
       oversight jurisdiction as set forth in House Rule X. Attachments to
       this letter provide additional information for witnesses appearing
       before the Committee and about how to respond to the Committee's
       request for documents and information. /
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:45 PM ET #110

    has anyone heard any news of the lehman cds auction yet ??
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    has anyone heard any news of the lehman cds auction yet ??
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:47 PM ET #111

    Banks ROLLING..

    KBE up on the day.
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    Banks ROLLING..

    KBE up on the day.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:49 PM ET #112

    I'm only 21, and I have like a couple of g's just lying around that I'd rather not reinvest into sports wagering. Any thoughts on what/when I should pump this money back into the system?

    I was thinking auto stocks because their cheap, and it seems like they're in their worst shape ever.

    Anyone care to help out a novice?
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    I'm only 21, and I have like a couple of g's just lying around that I'd rather not reinvest into sports wagering. Any thoughts on what/when I should pump this money back into the system?

    I was thinking auto stocks because their cheap, and it seems like they're in their worst shape ever.

    Anyone care to help out a novice?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:55 PM ET #113

    Another down day....  With the shares of Drys I owned over the summer and what I paid... I've about quadrupuled my shares for far less in the past 2 days.
     
    I'm this stock recovers ... It will be a great windfall
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    Another down day....  With the shares of Drys I owned over the summer and what I paid... I've about quadrupuled my shares for far less in the past 2 days.
     
    I'm this stock recovers ... It will be a great windfall
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:58 PM ET #114

    Buckle your chin straps boys its probably about to get real good or real bad
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    Buckle your chin straps boys its probably about to get real good or real bad
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:04 PM ET #115

    Quote Originally Posted by WinLoseorDraw:

    has anyone heard any news of the lehman cds auction yet ??


    8.625

    8.6 cents on the dollar

    now the counterparties have to come up with the cash to settle...if they dont, then bye bye birdie
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinLoseorDraw:

    has anyone heard any news of the lehman cds auction yet ??


    8.625

    8.6 cents on the dollar

    now the counterparties have to come up with the cash to settle...if they dont, then bye bye birdie
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:04 PM ET #116

    Piles,

    Me too..look at the 3 month chart on that stock, it was over 80 less than 3 months ago. I have to think that things arent THAT bad for the sector.


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    Piles,

    Me too..look at the 3 month chart on that stock, it was over 80 less than 3 months ago. I have to think that things arent THAT bad for the sector.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:05 PM ET #117

    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:

    I'm only 21, and I have like a couple of g's just lying around that I'd rather not reinvest into sports wagering. Any thoughts on what/when I should pump this money back into the system?

    I was thinking auto stocks because their cheap, and it seems like they're in their worst shape ever.

    Anyone care to help out a novice?


    sit cash...do not go all in ever with anything

    if you do want to invest...do a little bit at a time over the next 12 months (dollar coats average)
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:

    I'm only 21, and I have like a couple of g's just lying around that I'd rather not reinvest into sports wagering. Any thoughts on what/when I should pump this money back into the system?

    I was thinking auto stocks because their cheap, and it seems like they're in their worst shape ever.

    Anyone care to help out a novice?


    sit cash...do not go all in ever with anything

    if you do want to invest...do a little bit at a time over the next 12 months (dollar coats average)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:11 PM ET #118

    This meandering kind of off the lows but not really making progress is not good..

    Either smash them or run them..do something here markets.
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    This meandering kind of off the lows but not really making progress is not good..

    Either smash them or run them..do something here markets.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:12 PM ET #119

    UYG back green again

    They are trying to goose the banks, will it hold this time??
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    UYG back green again

    They are trying to goose the banks, will it hold this time??
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:13 PM ET #120

    Ok here they go..

    Just popped the markets 200 pts in like 5 minutes.

    They could go positive fellas.
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    Ok here they go..

    Just popped the markets 200 pts in like 5 minutes.

    They could go positive fellas.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:15 PM ET #121

    Or if they dont keep this going, it will be back down to -400 to 500 again..
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    Or if they dont keep this going, it will be back down to -400 to 500 again..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:16 PM ET #122

    Wicked rally
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    Wicked rally
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:16 PM ET #123

    KBE up 5% now.


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    KBE up 5% now.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:17 PM ET #124

    Here comes green......


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    Here comes green......


     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 3:22 PM ET #125

    They will take this positive..
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    They will take this positive..
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