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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:25 PM ET #76

    Yeah, it's a great entry on SQNM.  Nothing has changed.  What they are doing is not going to be effected by the economy and they have plenty of liquidity.

    This will probably show my ignorance, but shouldn't the reduced crude prices be good for a company like DRYS?
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    Yeah, it's a great entry on SQNM.  Nothing has changed.  What they are doing is not going to be effected by the economy and they have plenty of liquidity.

    This will probably show my ignorance, but shouldn't the reduced crude prices be good for a company like DRYS?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:34 PM ET #77

    Daily costs for DRYS are about 5500 per vessel, fuel costs arent that high relative to other costs like personnel etc.

    DRYS has 60% of their fleet locked for next year and is trading at 2 times next years locked earnings.

    Even at these low low vessel rates, DRYS would still have a 50% operating margin, oh and their OR assets getting zero value as well.

    Ive yapped enough about it and been wrong for so long..lucky I have a decade to see it work out if necessary.

    Funny though I see plenty of overpriced stocks out there. GOOG, AAPL, RIMM, BIDU, AMZN, PCLN, FSLR, SPWRA
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    Daily costs for DRYS are about 5500 per vessel, fuel costs arent that high relative to other costs like personnel etc.

    DRYS has 60% of their fleet locked for next year and is trading at 2 times next years locked earnings.

    Even at these low low vessel rates, DRYS would still have a 50% operating margin, oh and their OR assets getting zero value as well.

    Ive yapped enough about it and been wrong for so long..lucky I have a decade to see it work out if necessary.

    Funny though I see plenty of overpriced stocks out there. GOOG, AAPL, RIMM, BIDU, AMZN, PCLN, FSLR, SPWRA
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:41 PM ET #78

    Speaking of depression/recession stocks, it's just a matter of time before the media touts start pounding the table on Sysco (SYY).
     
    With oil contained (for now), they should get plenty of buyers a lot sooner than later.
     
    This sell-off in SYY is a damn gift for someone not looking to "trade." 22 cent q div.
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    Speaking of depression/recession stocks, it's just a matter of time before the media touts start pounding the table on Sysco (SYY).
     
    With oil contained (for now), they should get plenty of buyers a lot sooner than later.
     
    This sell-off in SYY is a damn gift for someone not looking to "trade." 22 cent q div.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:41 PM ET #79

    Monster volume on MS dropped it to 6.70, a fast return about 70 cents but  the lower low is a big problem.


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    Monster volume on MS dropped it to 6.70, a fast return about 70 cents but  the lower low is a big problem.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:44 PM ET #80

    CC,

    You been buying SYY?

    I just cannot buy that stock..dividend or not.
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    CC,

    You been buying SYY?

    I just cannot buy that stock..dividend or not.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:57 PM ET #81

    Like a sheethead jumping the gun, I ante-d up this past Monday in after hours(20%) and immediately wrote Oct 30 calls against it.
     
    Needless to say, I won't get called.
     
    If there is a meltdown Monday, I will get in for the rest of the 80% and let it ride.  21ish is as low as it will technically go if there is a meltdown Monday.
     
    I know you don't like SYY, WSC, and I believe that could be more personal than business related.  The deal is this------they are the number one food distributor in the USA, pay a 22 cent q div, and are trading at 14 times earnings.  Diesel is contained (for now), people have to eat in depressions, and their largest customer is the US gov't (schools, prisons, hospitals, military, nursing homes).  The USA also is still the best food producer on the planet.  I don't know what else to tell you.
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    Like a sheethead jumping the gun, I ante-d up this past Monday in after hours(20%) and immediately wrote Oct 30 calls against it.
     
    Needless to say, I won't get called.
     
    If there is a meltdown Monday, I will get in for the rest of the 80% and let it ride.  21ish is as low as it will technically go if there is a meltdown Monday.
     
    I know you don't like SYY, WSC, and I believe that could be more personal than business related.  The deal is this------they are the number one food distributor in the USA, pay a 22 cent q div, and are trading at 14 times earnings.  Diesel is contained (for now), people have to eat in depressions, and their largest customer is the US gov't (schools, prisons, hospitals, military, nursing homes).  The USA also is still the best food producer on the planet.  I don't know what else to tell you.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:06 PM ET #82

    CC,

    My reason for not liking them is that many customers arent happy with their service..they lure places in with low prices and move them up afterwords thinking people wont change suppliers.

    That and I think their product line is very poor selection wise and their house brand of product is below average.

    SYY has a monopoly of sorts due to their economies of scale, similar to a Walmart. At 14 times earnings it surely isnt a bargain and that dividend isnt that impressive.

    If they had any real competition they would be in trouble..but they are the real only public company who provides this service unfortunately.
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    CC,

    My reason for not liking them is that many customers arent happy with their service..they lure places in with low prices and move them up afterwords thinking people wont change suppliers.

    That and I think their product line is very poor selection wise and their house brand of product is below average.

    SYY has a monopoly of sorts due to their economies of scale, similar to a Walmart. At 14 times earnings it surely isnt a bargain and that dividend isnt that impressive.

    If they had any real competition they would be in trouble..but they are the real only public company who provides this service unfortunately.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:22 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Is anyone out there piling in to SKF?
     
    Goddamn I wish I could short that one.  Most overpriced symbol out there------no one knows how it's priced.
     
    Will get clipped back below 100 once short covering takes place.


      The simple fact of the matter is that what you say of SKF is unfortunately true for almost all stocks, particularly financials.No one yet knows how to valued much of what they hold, and none of the legislation passed can/will address that issue.

    Until there is a way of truly assessing the value of the assets, anything one does is a crapshoot.

    But I will buy SKF again as per usual whenever it gets below $100, simply because the search for a bottom in financials is going to take a very very long time, much longer than most have (and continue) to think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    Is anyone out there piling in to SKF?
     
    Goddamn I wish I could short that one.  Most overpriced symbol out there------no one knows how it's priced.
     
    Will get clipped back below 100 once short covering takes place.


      The simple fact of the matter is that what you say of SKF is unfortunately true for almost all stocks, particularly financials.No one yet knows how to valued much of what they hold, and none of the legislation passed can/will address that issue.

    Until there is a way of truly assessing the value of the assets, anything one does is a crapshoot.

    But I will buy SKF again as per usual whenever it gets below $100, simply because the search for a bottom in financials is going to take a very very long time, much longer than most have (and continue) to think.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:50 PM ET #84

    Look out below, under 8,000 and picking up speed...
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    Look out below, under 8,000 and picking up speed...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:54 PM ET #85

    fyi:

    news at 2p

    click
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    fyi:

    news at 2p

    click
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:54 PM ET #86

    Funny check the financials, most have pretty good looking charts today.

    Another "gut the middle of the market" and ignore the financials kind of day.

    Wallstreet protecting their interests as usual.
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    Funny check the financials, most have pretty good looking charts today.

    Another "gut the middle of the market" and ignore the financials kind of day.

    Wallstreet protecting their interests as usual.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:55 PM ET #87

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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:56 PM ET #88

    GLD is in a freefall !!!!!!!!
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    GLD is in a freefall !!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:57 PM ET #89

    ok im buying everything now
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    ok im buying everything now
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 1:59 PM ET #90

    oh my god
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    oh my god
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:01 PM ET #91


    Someone has to put up a fight to hold the 8000 mark...cmon Mortimer stop selling!!!

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    Someone has to put up a fight to hold the 8000 mark...cmon Mortimer stop selling!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:01 PM ET #92

    we need to see the results of the CDS auction for Lehman and if everyone can make good on their payments

    if they cant then word will spread that banks dont have cash so their CDS spreads will widen

    the worst kind of domino effect
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    we need to see the results of the CDS auction for Lehman and if everyone can make good on their payments

    if they cant then word will spread that banks dont have cash so their CDS spreads will widen

    the worst kind of domino effect
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:02 PM ET #93

    sent to me this morning--------------

    Trader line of the day....
     
    “This is worse than an ugly divorce. I’ve lost ½ of my net worth and I’m still married!”
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    sent to me this morning--------------

    Trader line of the day....
     
    “This is worse than an ugly divorce. I’ve lost ½ of my net worth and I’m still married!”
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:02 PM ET #94

    Probably a complete douchebag move but I finally took the plunge on DRYS and bought @ $16.25 inside an IRA.  May God have mercy on my soul. 
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    Probably a complete douchebag move but I finally took the plunge on DRYS and bought @ $16.25 inside an IRA.  May God have mercy on my soul. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:04 PM ET #95

    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    sent to me this morning--------------

    Trader line of the day....
     
    “This is worse than an ugly divorce. I’ve lost ½ of my net worth and I’m still married!”


    Oh that is a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:

    sent to me this morning--------------

    Trader line of the day....
     
    “This is worse than an ugly divorce. I’ve lost ½ of my net worth and I’m still married!”


    Oh that is a good one.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:05 PM ET #96


    PS

    Someone needs to take the CEO of Moodys aside and quietly inform him his services are no longer necessary....who believes them at this point anyway? Sheesh.

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    PS

    Someone needs to take the CEO of Moodys aside and quietly inform him his services are no longer necessary....who believes them at this point anyway? Sheesh.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:07 PM ET #97

    Vermeer...great statement
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    Vermeer...great statement
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:08 PM ET #98

    Depeche is on board..



    This thin market action is bizarre..150 pt moves in MINUTES.


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    Depeche is on board..



    This thin market action is bizarre..150 pt moves in MINUTES.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:08 PM ET #99

    if their was ever a time for the government to get sneaky it the auction for lehmans cds

    fix the damn auctions !!!!
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    if their was ever a time for the government to get sneaky it the auction for lehmans cds

    fix the damn auctions !!!!
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 2:09 PM ET #100

    Can you use Funds not settled to buy stocks?
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    Can you use Funds not settled to buy stocks?
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