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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 10:30 AM ET #51

    Here comes the sell-off.
     
     
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    Here comes the sell-off.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 10:33 AM ET #52

    Since Bush has talked, Dow has gone form down 50 to down 210.
     
    Hahahahahahahahaha
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    Since Bush has talked, Dow has gone form down 50 to down 210.
     
    Hahahahahahahahaha
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 10:36 AM ET #53

    Obama doesn't know jack diddly about fiscal responsibility.
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    Obama doesn't know jack diddly about fiscal responsibility.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 10:37 AM ET #54

    Obama is just another egomaniacal, power hungry icehole looking to lie to anyone for a vote.
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    Obama is just another egomaniacal, power hungry icehole looking to lie to anyone for a vote.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 10:39 AM ET #55

    Market hates LEH's rates on CDS.
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    Market hates LEH's rates on CDS.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 10:43 AM ET #56

    10 cents on the dollar-----but everyone and his dog knew they'd be hideous.
     
    No news there, at least to me.
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    10 cents on the dollar-----but everyone and his dog knew they'd be hideous.
     
    No news there, at least to me.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 10:43 AM ET #57

    Get ready for UYG.....coming up soon.
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    Get ready for UYG.....coming up soon.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 10:45 AM ET #58

    UYG is 8.14.
     
    Anything less than 9.00 is good.  Goes to 12 30 days from now.
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    UYG is 8.14.
     
    Anything less than 9.00 is good.  Goes to 12 30 days from now.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 10:50 AM ET #59

    Adding more UYG 300 x 8.27 to go with 300 at 7.57
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    Adding more UYG 300 x 8.27 to go with 300 at 7.57
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 11:31 AM ET #60

    I just checked the value of my GLD Mar $60 puts expecting them to have taken a dump since I got in a few weeks ago since gold is up about $100 since then.

    They are UP about 100% 

    The high VIX is good for somethings I guess, too bad I have to figure out whether GLD will fall fast enough the offset a lower VIX and subsequent premium deterioration.
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    I just checked the value of my GLD Mar $60 puts expecting them to have taken a dump since I got in a few weeks ago since gold is up about $100 since then.

    They are UP about 100% 

    The high VIX is good for somethings I guess, too bad I have to figure out whether GLD will fall fast enough the offset a lower VIX and subsequent premium deterioration.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 11:34 AM ET #61

    Gold bullion will outperform SP the next 5 years, but no way in hell will it make you rich.
     
    Way too many media touts and radio stations yapping about it for it to do much better than "barely beat the SP."
     
     
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    Gold bullion will outperform SP the next 5 years, but no way in hell will it make you rich.
     
    Way too many media touts and radio stations yapping about it for it to do much better than "barely beat the SP."
     
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 11:38 AM ET #62

    CC,

    Bottoms arent made on a friday..maybe they dont sell it down to 700 again but I dont think we get an earth shattering ending today.


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    CC,

    Bottoms arent made on a friday..maybe they dont sell it down to 700 again but I dont think we get an earth shattering ending today.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 11:39 AM ET #63

    today @ 2p - Lehman CDS auction results released...word is bond holders are getting 10 cents on the dollar
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    today @ 2p - Lehman CDS auction results released...word is bond holders are getting 10 cents on the dollar
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 11:40 AM ET #64


    Hope I am wrong,I think we finish today down -750 pts.

     But like I say, definitely hope I am wrong.
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    Hope I am wrong,I think we finish today down -750 pts.

     But like I say, definitely hope I am wrong.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 11:47 AM ET #65

    The reason I say today could be the end of the selling is cause the media touts on TV are all saying the same things:
     
    1) People are not going long over the weekend.
    2) People worried about G-7.
     
    Monday, just as easy as you could see a sea of red at the open, you could also see a sea of green at open that gets greener all day.
     
    I think that whatever can fcku the most amount of people is what the market will do.  Weird, but peeps aren't jumping out of windows.
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    The reason I say today could be the end of the selling is cause the media touts on TV are all saying the same things:
     
    1) People are not going long over the weekend.
    2) People worried about G-7.
     
    Monday, just as easy as you could see a sea of red at the open, you could also see a sea of green at open that gets greener all day.
     
    I think that whatever can fcku the most amount of people is what the market will do.  Weird, but peeps aren't jumping out of windows.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 11:58 AM ET #66

    Is anyone out there piling in to SKF?
     
    Goddamn I wish I could short that one.  Most overpriced symbol out there------no one knows how it's priced.
     
    Will get clipped back below 100 once short covering takes place.
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    Is anyone out there piling in to SKF?
     
    Goddamn I wish I could short that one.  Most overpriced symbol out there------no one knows how it's priced.
     
    Will get clipped back below 100 once short covering takes place.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:03 PM ET #67

    Wheels spinning early..

    Also noticing more income trusts and bond funds getting hit.

    Koaj if that is true regarding those swaps it wont be good for the other market, the CDO market and that would start more margin selling and more freezing of the market.

    Overusing leverage is fantastic..


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    Wheels spinning early..

    Also noticing more income trusts and bond funds getting hit.

    Koaj if that is true regarding those swaps it wont be good for the other market, the CDO market and that would start more margin selling and more freezing of the market.

    Overusing leverage is fantastic..


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:04 PM ET #68

    CC,

    Going long that UYG is in a sense going short the SKF right?
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    CC,

    Going long that UYG is in a sense going short the SKF right?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:06 PM ET #69

    GS down 20 bucks?

    MS setting lows last few minutes, lets see where they take it.

    I was telling the wife last night it wouldnt shock me if they pick the bones on MS, sell the retail and finance side and the other toxic parts go under.

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    GS down 20 bucks?

    MS setting lows last few minutes, lets see where they take it.

    I was telling the wife last night it wouldnt shock me if they pick the bones on MS, sell the retail and finance side and the other toxic parts go under.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:17 PM ET #70

    Is it time to buy DRYS or what?
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    Is it time to buy DRYS or what?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:19 PM ET #71

    Without all the money in the market, they can move it so easily. From -500 to -300 in like 20 minutes.


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    Without all the money in the market, they can move it so easily. From -500 to -300 in like 20 minutes.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:19 PM ET #72

    Yes it is, WSC, but since no one can accurately price these ETFs, I'd day SKF is more overvalued than UYG is undervalued.
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    Yes it is, WSC, but since no one can accurately price these ETFs, I'd day SKF is more overvalued than UYG is undervalued.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:21 PM ET #73

    You like options, WSC.
     
    Ever looked at the options in SKF?
     
    What a crock!!!!!!  3 dollar spreads.  I need to be a market maker.
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    You like options, WSC.
     
    Ever looked at the options in SKF?
     
    What a crock!!!!!!  3 dollar spreads.  I need to be a market maker.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:22 PM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    Is it time to buy DRYS or what?


    Is it time to buy anything?

    Yeah these prices are a total joke for a zillion stocks. I noticed they chopped your SQNM in half in no time.

    Very little has been protected outside the banks, although some pharma and biotech hasnt been smashed as badly as tech and high beta stocks..

    Those who wanted in on CRDC, todays prices are great, stock down from 10 plus not long ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:

    Is it time to buy DRYS or what?


    Is it time to buy anything?

    Yeah these prices are a total joke for a zillion stocks. I noticed they chopped your SQNM in half in no time.

    Very little has been protected outside the banks, although some pharma and biotech hasnt been smashed as badly as tech and high beta stocks..

    Those who wanted in on CRDC, todays prices are great, stock down from 10 plus not long ago.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 10, 2008 - 12:24 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    You like options, WSC.
     
    Ever looked at the options in SKF?
     
    What a crock!!!!!!  3 dollar spreads.  I need to be a market maker.


    Yep, those calls for Jan 09 are a monster..60 bucks for Jan 190 puts. I would sell those suckers short. Get level III options access and sell those Jan 09 190 calls at 60 bucks..

    Oh and the spread is because MMs are not getting involved, nobody willing to make a market so the retail spreads are fatttttt
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    Quote Originally Posted by claycourtlesson:

    You like options, WSC.
     
    Ever looked at the options in SKF?
     
    What a crock!!!!!!  3 dollar spreads.  I need to be a market maker.


    Yep, those calls for Jan 09 are a monster..60 bucks for Jan 190 puts. I would sell those suckers short. Get level III options access and sell those Jan 09 190 calls at 60 bucks..

    Oh and the spread is because MMs are not getting involved, nobody willing to make a market so the retail spreads are fatttttt
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