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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 12:56 PM ET #101

    Welcome to the investments area, we can use more involvement and current/past traders..

    What do you use for screeners?
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    Welcome to the investments area, we can use more involvement and current/past traders..

    What do you use for screeners?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 12:58 PM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:



     A couple of things on Nano stocks...DOW has an interesting tie in with StarPharma of Australia...this is old news, as per the date on the story, and since then StarPharma has bought out the other company. I own DOW, not pumping it, just interested in what it is doing in Nano.The VivaGel product seems to be passing its trials, but has more to go.


    I am going to delete that post, it skewed the thread..try it again.

    As for NANO stocks, I think most here are looking for the smaller play that could be a revolutionary stock and a large return. DOW on the other hand probably pays more for exec perks than most of these NANO stocks are worth in market cap..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermeer:



     A couple of things on Nano stocks...DOW has an interesting tie in with StarPharma of Australia...this is old news, as per the date on the story, and since then StarPharma has bought out the other company. I own DOW, not pumping it, just interested in what it is doing in Nano.The VivaGel product seems to be passing its trials, but has more to go.


    I am going to delete that post, it skewed the thread..try it again.

    As for NANO stocks, I think most here are looking for the smaller play that could be a revolutionary stock and a large return. DOW on the other hand probably pays more for exec perks than most of these NANO stocks are worth in market cap..


     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 1:05 PM ET #103

    Nice turn for FSLR, 3 pts from the low..

    Tomorrow are earnings..



    110 straddle costs 16 and that is too much....

    VLO also bounced nicely, looks like it is going green now.
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    Nice turn for FSLR, 3 pts from the low..

    Tomorrow are earnings..



    110 straddle costs 16 and that is too much....

    VLO also bounced nicely, looks like it is going green now.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 1:55 PM ET #104

    FSLR is going to be one wild, wild, wild, wild ride tomorrow.
     
    Thank God I am not a trader, cause trading this one hard would cause a serious anxiety attack.
     
    Cheers
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    FSLR is going to be one wild, wild, wild, wild ride tomorrow.
     
    Thank God I am not a trader, cause trading this one hard would cause a serious anxiety attack.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 1:58 PM ET #105

    No kidding clay..

    7 pt turn now on FSLR..from 106.50 to 114.


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    No kidding clay..

    7 pt turn now on FSLR..from 106.50 to 114.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:00 PM ET #106

    I am semi tempted to leg IN to a 110 on the cheap.

    Problem is that the stock has moved 3 pts from 110 ish to 114 and the 110 puts have only gone down 1.50

    I think I sit it out..

    Zero real value in the calls..none at all.
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    I am semi tempted to leg IN to a 110 on the cheap.

    Problem is that the stock has moved 3 pts from 110 ish to 114 and the 110 puts have only gone down 1.50

    I think I sit it out..

    Zero real value in the calls..none at all.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:01 PM ET #107

    Yeah, I saw the vicious spike.
     
    Must've been a rumor of their number to cause a short squeeze.
     
    A lot of lies and rumors will be rampant on this one from now through tomorrow. 
     
    It'd be a great trading vehicle if you could start the rumors, but being on the other side of a vicious move is scary.
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    Yeah, I saw the vicious spike.
     
    Must've been a rumor of their number to cause a short squeeze.
     
    A lot of lies and rumors will be rampant on this one from now through tomorrow. 
     
    It'd be a great trading vehicle if you could start the rumors, but being on the other side of a vicious move is scary.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:02 PM ET #108

    WSC-
     
    No value on the options.  You either buy the common or short the common.  Take your pick.
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    WSC-
     
    No value on the options.  You either buy the common or short the common.  Take your pick.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:04 PM ET #109

    Holy fuck......114 and change.
     
    Usually these rumors have no legs and fall apart in minutes.
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    Holy fuck......114 and change.
     
    Usually these rumors have no legs and fall apart in minutes.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:07 PM ET #110

    Someone with power could easily start rumors of a number like +20 cents, HUGE announcements of contracts tomorrow, a split, etc......
     
    Anyone who hears the rumor could get nervous and panic buy or panic cover.  Then you just get a parabolic spike.
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    Someone with power could easily start rumors of a number like +20 cents, HUGE announcements of contracts tomorrow, a split, etc......
     
    Anyone who hears the rumor could get nervous and panic buy or panic cover.  Then you just get a parabolic spike.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:07 PM ET #111

    Hit 115.

    I think the stock comes back before earnings...
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    Hit 115.

    I think the stock comes back before earnings...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:12 PM ET #112

    It'll bounce between 118ish and 108ish.
     
    Moves will be severe.
     
    It will get crushed with anything less than BLOWOUT and 100% positive for the future.
     
    But if the rumors are right, and this one answers the call tomorrow PM, then anyone holding it short is dead meat.
     
    Glad I'm not a trader....all I can say.
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    It'll bounce between 118ish and 108ish.
     
    Moves will be severe.
     
    It will get crushed with anything less than BLOWOUT and 100% positive for the future.
     
    But if the rumors are right, and this one answers the call tomorrow PM, then anyone holding it short is dead meat.
     
    Glad I'm not a trader....all I can say.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:18 PM ET #113

    This is getting really stupid......now 116 and change.
     
    Looks like only the suckers would chase it now.......sucker buying it here is dead unless you got inside info and know what kind of open interest is getting squeezed out.
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    This is getting really stupid......now 116 and change.
     
    Looks like only the suckers would chase it now.......sucker buying it here is dead unless you got inside info and know what kind of open interest is getting squeezed out.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:41 PM ET #114

    Did go above 117, but now looks to have run out of legs.
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    Did go above 117, but now looks to have run out of legs.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 2:59 PM ET #115

    Above 119.
     
    This is foolish to spike like that.
     
    Exactly why short-term gyrations are caused only by intense fear and equally as intense greed.
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    Above 119.
     
    This is foolish to spike like that.
     
    Exactly why short-term gyrations are caused only by intense fear and equally as intense greed.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 3:11 PM ET #116

    Above 121.
     
    Very beyond foolish.
     
    Fear and greed have just run amok.
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    Above 121.
     
    Very beyond foolish.
     
    Fear and greed have just run amok.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 3:21 PM ET #117

    Finally the balloon got popped.
     
    Went above 121 for a short time, and then the sellers cashed in.
     
     
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    Finally the balloon got popped.
     
    Went above 121 for a short time, and then the sellers cashed in.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 3:44 PM ET #118

    Yeah but the stock is holding nicely...those 110s at 8 and change are almost in the money..

    lol  
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    Yeah but the stock is holding nicely...those 110s at 8 and change are almost in the money..

    lol  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 3:57 PM ET #119

    Unreal.
     
    Why I can't trade.....the degree of fear and greed astounds me to no end.......no way for me to predict just how far below the depths of stupidity that man will stoop.
     
    I am not unhappy with FSLR's performance today......am long at 111, but today makes me wonder whether or not I can hold this crap for the long run when this shit happens.
     
    GTLS is much more my style......does nothing.....boring.....but goes up over time.
     
    How the fuck do you guys trade?
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    Unreal.
     
    Why I can't trade.....the degree of fear and greed astounds me to no end.......no way for me to predict just how far below the depths of stupidity that man will stoop.
     
    I am not unhappy with FSLR's performance today......am long at 111, but today makes me wonder whether or not I can hold this crap for the long run when this shit happens.
     
    GTLS is much more my style......does nothing.....boring.....but goes up over time.
     
    How the fuck do you guys trade?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 4:03 PM ET #120

    Sets a new high today at 120ish. 
     
    Off the high for the day, but a NH nonetheless.
     
    This bothers me.
     
    Too much "irrational exuberance."  I'd have felt better for the long run today with negativity and people shorting it.
     
    I may sell out of my entire position tomorrow AM.
     
    Too many yahoos joined the bandwagon today, which makes me believe the market is going to teach them a stern and harsh lesson when earnings come out this time tomorrow.
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    Sets a new high today at 120ish. 
     
    Off the high for the day, but a NH nonetheless.
     
    This bothers me.
     
    Too much "irrational exuberance."  I'd have felt better for the long run today with negativity and people shorting it.
     
    I may sell out of my entire position tomorrow AM.
     
    Too many yahoos joined the bandwagon today, which makes me believe the market is going to teach them a stern and harsh lesson when earnings come out this time tomorrow.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 4:17 PM ET #121

    Claycourt,

    Yep..stocks setting new highs into earnings have the bar placed higher than ones going into earnings with skepticism.

    You gotta ride that horse much like BIDU and RIMM etc..new highs are only scary if you think they arent going to destroy the numbers.

    The more I see of FSLR the more I shake my head..their technology is behind the curve, they are benefiting from foreign subsidies and credits from European goverments which wont last forever..they arent trying to pursue better technology and that alone is a reason for me to shake my head at the stock.

    The group had a good day today from what I saw and who knows how long it lasts but I think longer term the stock deserves to be back to the IPO price....
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    Claycourt,

    Yep..stocks setting new highs into earnings have the bar placed higher than ones going into earnings with skepticism.

    You gotta ride that horse much like BIDU and RIMM etc..new highs are only scary if you think they arent going to destroy the numbers.

    The more I see of FSLR the more I shake my head..their technology is behind the curve, they are benefiting from foreign subsidies and credits from European goverments which wont last forever..they arent trying to pursue better technology and that alone is a reason for me to shake my head at the stock.

    The group had a good day today from what I saw and who knows how long it lasts but I think longer term the stock deserves to be back to the IPO price....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 4:28 PM ET #122

    Yeah, WSC.
     
    I am agreeing.
     
    FSLR will one day get taken to the cleaners, and oh yes, the ones who can short it and deal with the intense pain that can arise will one day be laughing last.
     
    Let's face it, though, the numbers tomorrow will blow the doors off the consensus.  Now is that enough to keep it moving higher for the next year?  I don't know.
     
    What I do know is that the bar has definitely been raised higher after today.
     
    I may sell off like 3/4 of my stake tomorrow and hope I'm jumping the gun by being worried.  I hope I'm wrong and that it keeps climbing a wall of worry.
     
    But after today's "STUPID" run-up, it is wisest to take money off the table, I believe.
     
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    Yeah, WSC.
     
    I am agreeing.
     
    FSLR will one day get taken to the cleaners, and oh yes, the ones who can short it and deal with the intense pain that can arise will one day be laughing last.
     
    Let's face it, though, the numbers tomorrow will blow the doors off the consensus.  Now is that enough to keep it moving higher for the next year?  I don't know.
     
    What I do know is that the bar has definitely been raised higher after today.
     
    I may sell off like 3/4 of my stake tomorrow and hope I'm jumping the gun by being worried.  I hope I'm wrong and that it keeps climbing a wall of worry.
     
    But after today's "STUPID" run-up, it is wisest to take money off the table, I believe.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 4:50 PM ET #123

    I dont know..

    I had that theory back during the massive run in 1997-2002 and I would sell early only to see stocks keep going..this sector should stay hot for a long time out until/if oil comes down and the technology is no longer cost effective.

    I can list quite a few stocks that were rockets and leaders that are out of business or less than 5 bucks..

    MRVC
    SUNW
    WCOM

    Thats a quick 3. I agree that the time table we do not know, the result we do know.

    If I had ultra deep pockets I would go against them without a doubt. The options MMs are smart, they are not creating puts or calls out past 6 months because they dont want the liability of creating the market...pretty slimy..
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    I dont know..

    I had that theory back during the massive run in 1997-2002 and I would sell early only to see stocks keep going..this sector should stay hot for a long time out until/if oil comes down and the technology is no longer cost effective.

    I can list quite a few stocks that were rockets and leaders that are out of business or less than 5 bucks..

    MRVC
    SUNW
    WCOM

    Thats a quick 3. I agree that the time table we do not know, the result we do know.

    If I had ultra deep pockets I would go against them without a doubt. The options MMs are smart, they are not creating puts or calls out past 6 months because they dont want the liability of creating the market...pretty slimy..
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 4:59 PM ET #124

    One thing that is positive for the yahoos who were sucker-buying today....
     
    Today was damn near a classic outside day.  That is a very, very strong short-term technical indicator.
     
    I'll watch tomorrow.  And if there's a bunch of panic buying and covering right out of the gate in the first 2 hours, I'll bail out completely.  If there is a gap-down open tomorrow (much better than 50/50 chance), and the price never reaches even during the day, I'll let it ride.....all of it.
     
    In summary........fade tomorrow's action.
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    One thing that is positive for the yahoos who were sucker-buying today....
     
    Today was damn near a classic outside day.  That is a very, very strong short-term technical indicator.
     
    I'll watch tomorrow.  And if there's a bunch of panic buying and covering right out of the gate in the first 2 hours, I'll bail out completely.  If there is a gap-down open tomorrow (much better than 50/50 chance), and the price never reaches even during the day, I'll let it ride.....all of it.
     
    In summary........fade tomorrow's action.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 10:58 PM ET #125

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    I am going to delete that post, it skewed the thread..try it again.

    As for NANO stocks, I think most here are looking for the smaller play that could be a revolutionary stock and a large return. DOW on the other hand probably pays more for exec perks than most of these NANO stocks are worth in market cap..




      StarPharma would be the play then, and the fact that DOW is on board tends to lend weight to its chances. You would have to get it on the Aussie exchange however, but it is, as are most stocks in this price range, extremely speculative. But I think DOW is impressed with their prospects and from what I have read, they have some interesting patents and have passed some trials with their product. Due diligence needed of course.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    I am going to delete that post, it skewed the thread..try it again.

    As for NANO stocks, I think most here are looking for the smaller play that could be a revolutionary stock and a large return. DOW on the other hand probably pays more for exec perks than most of these NANO stocks are worth in market cap..




      StarPharma would be the play then, and the fact that DOW is on board tends to lend weight to its chances. You would have to get it on the Aussie exchange however, but it is, as are most stocks in this price range, extremely speculative. But I think DOW is impressed with their prospects and from what I have read, they have some interesting patents and have passed some trials with their product. Due diligence needed of course.
     
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