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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 11:11 PM ET #126

    PS

    I think the instituonal big boys are all on vacation, and usually do not come back and weigh in until after August. The weeks ahead should be interesting, but I think September-Dcember will be the real story of this market. Until then, a lot of retail traders and a lot of choppiness. But that is what makes shprt term stuff fun.

     As for screens, I use a lot of different technical trend screens for the little amount of trading I do, and option probablity screens.But when it comes down to it, I look at fundamentals, and in options at least,  I like stocks that have been beaten down but which are solid cash machines...I like BUD,  and like Dykstra's  article today on theStreet.com, have made money off HAL options many times over the past year...
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    I think the instituonal big boys are all on vacation, and usually do not come back and weigh in until after August. The weeks ahead should be interesting, but I think September-Dcember will be the real story of this market. Until then, a lot of retail traders and a lot of choppiness. But that is what makes shprt term stuff fun.

     As for screens, I use a lot of different technical trend screens for the little amount of trading I do, and option probablity screens.But when it comes down to it, I look at fundamentals, and in options at least,  I like stocks that have been beaten down but which are solid cash machines...I like BUD,  and like Dykstra's  article today on theStreet.com, have made money off HAL options many times over the past year...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2007 - 11:31 PM ET #127

    Come on QLGC...drop to 11....
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    Come on QLGC...drop to 11....
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 12:01 AM ET #128

    HAL pisses me off..but it has been a strong stock. I dont see how you could make a ton off the options..stock has been stuck in the 30s for ages it seems.

    wheresmyhat, I actually was thinking I prefer RMBS due to the volatility over QLGC..look at a chart and see what I mean.

    QLGC might be settling in to a longer term pattern and the decreased volatility might keep me away from the longer term position...
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    HAL pisses me off..but it has been a strong stock. I dont see how you could make a ton off the options..stock has been stuck in the 30s for ages it seems.

    wheresmyhat, I actually was thinking I prefer RMBS due to the volatility over QLGC..look at a chart and see what I mean.

    QLGC might be settling in to a longer term pattern and the decreased volatility might keep me away from the longer term position...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 12:55 AM ET #129

    Bought some CF today ahead of earnings.  Sitting at just under 60 bucks.  GOod earnings but rev's down a bit.  Up after hours.  We'll see what happens.  I had options on this stock when it was around 40 bucks. 
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    Bought some CF today ahead of earnings.  Sitting at just under 60 bucks.  GOod earnings but rev's down a bit.  Up after hours.  We'll see what happens.  I had options on this stock when it was around 40 bucks. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 1:14 PM ET #130

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    HAL pisses me off..but it has been a strong stock. I dont see how you could make a ton off the options..stock has been stuck in the 30s for ages it seems.

    wheresmyhat, I actually was thinking I prefer RMBS due to the volatility over QLGC..look at a chart and see what I mean.

    QLGC might be settling in to a longer term pattern and the decreased volatility might keep me away from the longer term position...


     I agree with all you say about HAL. I have not made a "ton" but I have made several small, very quick profits on it...soem trades were over in two days (I am not a trader, suually, as mentioned before, more of an investor).

     The stock  has languished as you state, and I am long HAL. I hink of it as a value play, the fundamentals are too compelling, and as an oil service major, it is an industry that I see staying critical in the years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    HAL pisses me off..but it has been a strong stock. I dont see how you could make a ton off the options..stock has been stuck in the 30s for ages it seems.

    wheresmyhat, I actually was thinking I prefer RMBS due to the volatility over QLGC..look at a chart and see what I mean.

    QLGC might be settling in to a longer term pattern and the decreased volatility might keep me away from the longer term position...


     I agree with all you say about HAL. I have not made a "ton" but I have made several small, very quick profits on it...soem trades were over in two days (I am not a trader, suually, as mentioned before, more of an investor).

     The stock  has languished as you state, and I am long HAL. I hink of it as a value play, the fundamentals are too compelling, and as an oil service major, it is an industry that I see staying critical in the years to come.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 1:31 PM ET #131

    The problem is that HAL is so diversified that no one segment seems to push the stock.

    They are in the energy industry but if you break down their income statment just that segment isnt enough to propel the stock.

    Also look at the growth year over year..it is not impressive. Once you factor out discontinued operations and higher income taxes, they did 2B more in revenues from 05 to 06 and made zero to the bottom line.

    HAL is a mature company, you wont see a meteoric move with 15% margins and 10% revenue growth year over year..

    HAL is one you buy when the market gets smashed..I prefer other names in the group for exciting growth.
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    The problem is that HAL is so diversified that no one segment seems to push the stock.

    They are in the energy industry but if you break down their income statment just that segment isnt enough to propel the stock.

    Also look at the growth year over year..it is not impressive. Once you factor out discontinued operations and higher income taxes, they did 2B more in revenues from 05 to 06 and made zero to the bottom line.

    HAL is a mature company, you wont see a meteoric move with 15% margins and 10% revenue growth year over year..

    HAL is one you buy when the market gets smashed..I prefer other names in the group for exciting growth.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 2:30 PM ET #132

    ws chng believe it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    ws chng believe it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 2:40 PM ET #133

    Big$$$,

    Nah..I rarely go after OTCBB stocks..CHNG included.

    Market tankkkkinnnngggggg...

    Some of my puts that I sold for cheap a week ago are coming back to life, what a fuqing bummer...
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    Big$$$,

    Nah..I rarely go after OTCBB stocks..CHNG included.

    Market tankkkkinnnngggggg...

    Some of my puts that I sold for cheap a week ago are coming back to life, what a fuqing bummer...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 2:52 PM ET #134

    CHNG won't be OTCBB for long i don't think.  i've seen some rumours of a real exchange picking them up.  they've also hired two finance professionals and opened an office in nyc.  good sign
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    CHNG won't be OTCBB for long i don't think.  i've seen some rumours of a real exchange picking them up.  they've also hired two finance professionals and opened an office in nyc.  good sign
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 6:14 PM ET #135

    FSLR getting clobbered after hours.  I did sell half at the gap-up, but am taking a whupping on remaining shares with a basis of 111.
     
    :(
     
    Good news is the extreme sell-off continues, and I am about to go bargain shopping, and that is a good thing.
     
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    FSLR getting clobbered after hours.  I did sell half at the gap-up, but am taking a whupping on remaining shares with a basis of 111.
     
    :(
     
    Good news is the extreme sell-off continues, and I am about to go bargain shopping, and that is a good thing.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 6:43 PM ET #136

    Claycourt,

    I dont see anything bad but a reason to sell her off.

    I am quite pissed at WFMI though..talked about it today and up 3 in after hours...
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    Claycourt,

    I dont see anything bad but a reason to sell her off.

    I am quite pissed at WFMI though..talked about it today and up 3 in after hours...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 7:07 PM ET #137

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    Yeah, I'll hold on to what I got at 111 and let it ride.  It'll be up way past 111 this time next year......I hope.
     
    WFMI may not be a bad one to rotate into over the next few months.
     
    Today's sell-off has legs, so I'm not in any hurry.
     
    There is going to be lots of value out there, that's for sure, as this present sell-off will shake out the weak hands so we can move higher.
     
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    Yeah, I'll hold on to what I got at 111 and let it ride.  It'll be up way past 111 this time next year......I hope.
     
    WFMI may not be a bad one to rotate into over the next few months.
     
    Today's sell-off has legs, so I'm not in any hurry.
     
    There is going to be lots of value out there, that's for sure, as this present sell-off will shake out the weak hands so we can move higher.
     
    Cheers
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2007 - 7:09 PM ET #138

    "IF" GTLS gets sold-off over the next few days (and it very well may), then that is number one on the bargain buying list, for sure.
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    "IF" GTLS gets sold-off over the next few days (and it very well may), then that is number one on the bargain buying list, for sure.
     
     
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    POZN news imminent......
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