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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2020 - 12:17 AM ET #51

    cliffnotes: 75 deaths TOTAL as of yesterday 

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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2020 - 12:39 AM ET #52

    VEGAS ordered to shutdown 30 days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas502:

    VEGAS ordered to shutdown 30 days!

    Our Governor said to stay in, yet he said 1) "If you prepare to say goodbye to your loved one's, do it outside where the chance of exposure is less" yet he says stay home?  Contradiction #1 

    2) If you have a restaurant it should be reduced to serving food only in a drive through, take out food at the curb, or delivery capacities. If I have it and go pick up my food I expose someone to it...if a restaurant delivery worker has it I can get it. Contradiction #2 He has NO CLUE does he?   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas502:

    VEGAS ordered to shutdown 30 days!

    Our Governor said to stay in, yet he said 1) "If you prepare to say goodbye to your loved one's, do it outside where the chance of exposure is less" yet he says stay home?  Contradiction #1 

    2) If you have a restaurant it should be reduced to serving food only in a drive through, take out food at the curb, or delivery capacities. If I have it and go pick up my food I expose someone to it...if a restaurant delivery worker has it I can get it. Contradiction #2 He has NO CLUE does he?   

     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2020 - 8:23 PM ET #54

    It's too late now.... but WHY IN HELL did we shut down 95% of our economy.....when 17-20% are identifiable as the higher risk? WHY IN HELL are we now going to have to take months, not weeks, to modulate the rate at which critical mass of 331 miliion of us get infected and acquire natural immunity ? WHY IN HELL wouldn't it make more sense to pour resources (FAR, FAR, less!) into isolating/caring for/ the 20% that are vulnerable? (While keeping the economy going at 80% minimum!!!) Once those of us that are at low risk (again, with zero or light symptoms) are infected, we stop being contagious within 10 days...and once recovered, are immune ourselves. In this regard, this is NO DIFFERENT than the flu. Again, the ONLY difference is that we should be safeguarding the higher risk 20% (because this virus is "more lethal") while the infection goes through the other 80% not at high risk. WHY IN HELL are we going to set ourselves up to go through this EVERY YEAR????

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    It's too late now.... but WHY IN HELL did we shut down 95% of our economy.....when 17-20% are identifiable as the higher risk? WHY IN HELL are we now going to have to take months, not weeks, to modulate the rate at which critical mass of 331 miliion of us get infected and acquire natural immunity ? WHY IN HELL wouldn't it make more sense to pour resources (FAR, FAR, less!) into isolating/caring for/ the 20% that are vulnerable? (While keeping the economy going at 80% minimum!!!) Once those of us that are at low risk (again, with zero or light symptoms) are infected, we stop being contagious within 10 days...and once recovered, are immune ourselves. In this regard, this is NO DIFFERENT than the flu. Again, the ONLY difference is that we should be safeguarding the higher risk 20% (because this virus is "more lethal") while the infection goes through the other 80% not at high risk. WHY IN HELL are we going to set ourselves up to go through this EVERY YEAR????

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish7878:

    It's too late now.... but WHY IN HELL did we shut down 95% of our economy.....when 17-20% are identifiable as the higher risk? WHY IN HELL are we now going to have to take months, not weeks, to modulate the rate at which critical mass of 331 miliion of us get infected and acquire natural immunity ? WHY IN HELL wouldn't it make more sense to pour resources (FAR, FAR, less!) into isolating/caring for/ the 20% that are vulnerable? (While keeping the economy going at 80% minimum!!!) Once those of us that are at low risk (again, with zero or light symptoms) are infected, we stop being contagious within 10 days...and once recovered, are immune ourselves. In this regard, this is NO DIFFERENT than the flu. Again, the ONLY difference is that we should be safeguarding the higher risk 20% (because this virus is "more lethal") while the infection goes through the other 80% not at high risk. WHY IN HELL are we going to set ourselves up to go through this EVERY YEAR????


    and we had months to prepare for this.... :( 

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    It's too late now.... but WHY IN HELL did we shut down 95% of our economy.....when 17-20% are identifiable as the higher risk? WHY IN HELL are we now going to have to take months, not weeks, to modulate the rate at which critical mass of 331 miliion of us get infected and acquire natural immunity ? WHY IN HELL wouldn't it make more sense to pour resources (FAR, FAR, less!) into isolating/caring for/ the 20% that are vulnerable? (While keeping the economy going at 80% minimum!!!) Once those of us that are at low risk (again, with zero or light symptoms) are infected, we stop being contagious within 10 days...and once recovered, are immune ourselves. In this regard, this is NO DIFFERENT than the flu. Again, the ONLY difference is that we should be safeguarding the higher risk 20% (because this virus is "more lethal") while the infection goes through the other 80% not at high risk. WHY IN HELL are we going to set ourselves up to go through this EVERY YEAR????


    and we had months to prepare for this.... :( 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 3:18 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish7878:

    It's too late now.... but WHY IN HELL did we shut down 95% of our economy.....when 17-20% are identifiable as the higher risk? WHY IN HELL are we now going to have to take months, not weeks, to modulate the rate at which critical mass of 331 miliion of us get infected and acquire natural immunity ? WHY IN HELL wouldn't it make more sense to pour resources (FAR, FAR, less!) into isolating/caring for/ the 20% that are vulnerable? (While keeping the economy going at 80% minimum!!!) Once those of us that are at low risk (again, with zero or light symptoms) are infected, we stop being contagious within 10 days...and once recovered, are immune ourselves. In this regard, this is NO DIFFERENT than the flu. Again, the ONLY difference is that we should be safeguarding the higher risk 20% (because this virus is "more lethal") while the infection goes through the other 80% not at high risk. WHY IN HELL are we going to set ourselves up to go through this EVERY YEAR????

    You realize 80% of the spread is through asymptomatic carriers that show no symptoms right?  How do you expect to isolate the 20% at risk population as you put it?  You need to isolate everyone.

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    It's too late now.... but WHY IN HELL did we shut down 95% of our economy.....when 17-20% are identifiable as the higher risk? WHY IN HELL are we now going to have to take months, not weeks, to modulate the rate at which critical mass of 331 miliion of us get infected and acquire natural immunity ? WHY IN HELL wouldn't it make more sense to pour resources (FAR, FAR, less!) into isolating/caring for/ the 20% that are vulnerable? (While keeping the economy going at 80% minimum!!!) Once those of us that are at low risk (again, with zero or light symptoms) are infected, we stop being contagious within 10 days...and once recovered, are immune ourselves. In this regard, this is NO DIFFERENT than the flu. Again, the ONLY difference is that we should be safeguarding the higher risk 20% (because this virus is "more lethal") while the infection goes through the other 80% not at high risk. WHY IN HELL are we going to set ourselves up to go through this EVERY YEAR????

    You realize 80% of the spread is through asymptomatic carriers that show no symptoms right?  How do you expect to isolate the 20% at risk population as you put it?  You need to isolate everyone.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 3:20 AM ET #57

    and this...

    In California, 246 cases have been diagnosed in adults under 64, while just 135 have been in people over 65. In Colorado, more than half of the cases have been diagnosed in people in their 30s, 40s and 50s. In Georgia, 46 percent of cases have been among adults under 60.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/not-just-older-people-younger-adults-are-also-getting-coronavirus-n1160416

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    and this...

    In California, 246 cases have been diagnosed in adults under 64, while just 135 have been in people over 65. In Colorado, more than half of the cases have been diagnosed in people in their 30s, 40s and 50s. In Georgia, 46 percent of cases have been among adults under 60.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/not-just-older-people-younger-adults-are-also-getting-coronavirus-n1160416

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey_Punch_:

    and this... In California, 246 cases have been diagnosed in adults under 64, while just 135 have been in people over 65. In Colorado, more than half of the cases have been diagnosed in people in their 30s, 40s and 50s. In Georgia, 46 percent of cases have been among adults under 60. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/not-just-older-people-younger-adults-are-also-getting-coronavirus-n1160416

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    and this... In California, 246 cases have been diagnosed in adults under 64, while just 135 have been in people over 65. In Colorado, more than half of the cases have been diagnosed in people in their 30s, 40s and 50s. In Georgia, 46 percent of cases have been among adults under 60. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/not-just-older-people-younger-adults-are-also-getting-coronavirus-n1160416

    People who have their fingers stuck in their ears dont really want to here whats really going on an_light

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 9:04 AM ET #59

    Johnny_ODAE Not trying to shove Religion down your throat. Our forefathers had it right with the Constitution & Declaration of Independence. The far left has been trying to take GOD out of our country. [ Communism - Socialism ] I doubt this will happen, We are part of the chosen people !!!

     

     

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    Johnny_ODAE Not trying to shove Religion down your throat. Our forefathers had it right with the Constitution & Declaration of Independence. The far left has been trying to take GOD out of our country. [ Communism - Socialism ] I doubt this will happen, We are part of the chosen people !!!

     

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 9:40 AM ET #60

    Getty3 Not invested in Oil of Oregano only putting that out to help out. I been around for 3/4 of a century & all I know is the body heals itself. Now I am not talking about fatal diseases, then you need meds that prolongs life. As for data check The Black Swan Man & what he says about flawed data.

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    Getty3 Not invested in Oil of Oregano only putting that out to help out. I been around for 3/4 of a century & all I know is the body heals itself. Now I am not talking about fatal diseases, then you need meds that prolongs life. As for data check The Black Swan Man & what he says about flawed data.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 11:08 AM ET #61

    Getty3 I am not investor but a Gambler - look how I did last year in NFL

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    There is nothing wrong with precaution. Let me give you an example. Think about a lily that grows in a pond and multiply itself once a day.
    And, if it takes 60 days to cover the whole pond, how many days does it literally took to cover the half you think? If you have a little common sense, you can understand that to completely populate half of the pond, it takes 59 days and the other half covers in one day! 
    Viruses are like that, the more affected people there are the more chances of spreading it faster. 
    You might see all the mean people or wild behavior that you shouldn't but the precaution and self-isolation dramatically reduce the chance of spreading the disease. If you understand the example of lily!
    And, more importantly, Corona is not a joke! Whoever took it seriously did nothing wrong as they know the history. Educate yourself and be safe! 

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    There is nothing wrong with precaution. Let me give you an example. Think about a lily that grows in a pond and multiply itself once a day.
    And, if it takes 60 days to cover the whole pond, how many days does it literally took to cover the half you think? If you have a little common sense, you can understand that to completely populate half of the pond, it takes 59 days and the other half covers in one day! 
    Viruses are like that, the more affected people there are the more chances of spreading it faster. 
    You might see all the mean people or wild behavior that you shouldn't but the precaution and self-isolation dramatically reduce the chance of spreading the disease. If you understand the example of lily!
    And, more importantly, Corona is not a joke! Whoever took it seriously did nothing wrong as they know the history. Educate yourself and be safe! 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 12:57 PM ET #64

    1/2 the world could be infected 

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    Quote Originally Posted by artdb:

    1/2 the world could be infected

    60-70%...if not more an_light

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    1/2 the world could be infected

    60-70%...if not more an_light

     
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    Does everone realize it is a flu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

    Does everone realize it is a flu?

    The typical flu doesnt become a pandemic, do you realize this?

    The typical flu has a 0.1 fatality rate whereas The Chinese Virus fatality rate has yet to be determined, do you realize this?

    Humans have never been exposed to The Chinese Virus, do you realize this?

     

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    Does everone realize it is a flu?

    The typical flu doesnt become a pandemic, do you realize this?

    The typical flu has a 0.1 fatality rate whereas The Chinese Virus fatality rate has yet to be determined, do you realize this?

    Humans have never been exposed to The Chinese Virus, do you realize this?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey_Punch_:

    and this... In California, 246 cases have been diagnosed in adults under 64, while just 135 have been in people over 65. In Colorado, more than half of the cases have been diagnosed in people in their 30s, 40s and 50s. In Georgia, 46 percent of cases have been among adults under 60. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/not-just-older-people-younger-adults-are-also-getting-coronavirus-n1160416

    I don't think anyone disputed that people under 65 were any more immune to the China Virus than people over 65.  We do know, however, that the fatality rate is much higher for people over 65.  I think this is the stat that most people care about.  That, and and the fact that people with underlying health conditions are at much greater risk.. 

     

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    and this... In California, 246 cases have been diagnosed in adults under 64, while just 135 have been in people over 65. In Colorado, more than half of the cases have been diagnosed in people in their 30s, 40s and 50s. In Georgia, 46 percent of cases have been among adults under 60. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/not-just-older-people-younger-adults-are-also-getting-coronavirus-n1160416

    I don't think anyone disputed that people under 65 were any more immune to the China Virus than people over 65.  We do know, however, that the fatality rate is much higher for people over 65.  I think this is the stat that most people care about.  That, and and the fact that people with underlying health conditions are at much greater risk.. 

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 6:24 PM ET #69

    And for the record, anything we hear from China should be taken with a grain of salt.   They are nothing but a group of lyin' liars..  You can't trust Any of the data points you get from the country, so exclude them entirely.  Are greatest learning experiences should be taken from S. Korea and Italy.  

     

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    And for the record, anything we hear from China should be taken with a grain of salt.   They are nothing but a group of lyin' liars..  You can't trust Any of the data points you get from the country, so exclude them entirely.  Are greatest learning experiences should be taken from S. Korea and Italy.  

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 6:28 PM ET #70

    "Our" 

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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 6:54 PM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    And for the record, anything we hear from China should be taken with a grain of salt.   They are nothing but a group of lyin' liars..  You can't trust Any of the data points you get from the country, so exclude them entirely.  Are greatest learning experiences should be taken from S. Korea and Italy.


    Italy’s death is now at 8% that contract the virus. Hopefully our rate is more closer to S. Korea’s 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    And for the record, anything we hear from China should be taken with a grain of salt.   They are nothing but a group of lyin' liars..  You can't trust Any of the data points you get from the country, so exclude them entirely.  Are greatest learning experiences should be taken from S. Korea and Italy.


    Italy’s death is now at 8% that contract the virus. Hopefully our rate is more closer to S. Korea’s 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 7:53 PM ET #72

    Chinese virus , really , tells us a lot about your intelligence and political standing ,seriously guys this is a global problem do we really need to be picking unneccesary fights at a time when the world should be pulling together and working to help all mankind , not just xenophobs and racists ?

     

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    Chinese virus , really , tells us a lot about your intelligence and political standing ,seriously guys this is a global problem do we really need to be picking unneccesary fights at a time when the world should be pulling together and working to help all mankind , not just xenophobs and racists ?

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustie:

    Chinese virus , really , tells us a lot about your intelligence and political standing ,seriously guys this is a global problem do we really need to be picking unneccesary fights at a time when the world should be pulling together and working to help all mankind , not just xenophobs and racists ?

    Covid-19 stands for Chinese Origin Viral Infectious Disease of 2019...dont worry snowflake, the grownup men and women of the world will be forced to look after your well being too

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustie:

    Chinese virus , really , tells us a lot about your intelligence and political standing ,seriously guys this is a global problem do we really need to be picking unneccesary fights at a time when the world should be pulling together and working to help all mankind , not just xenophobs and racists ?

    Covid-19 stands for Chinese Origin Viral Infectious Disease of 2019...dont worry snowflake, the grownup men and women of the world will be forced to look after your well being too

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 9:15 PM ET #74

    This thread is going to age worse than any thread on covers , ever ....

     

    Pathetic to see people sticking their heads in the sand ....

     

     

    Watch videos from ITALY ..

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    This thread is going to age worse than any thread on covers , ever ....

     

    Pathetic to see people sticking their heads in the sand ....

     

     

    Watch videos from ITALY ..

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2020 - 9:17 PM ET #75

    Too bad Trump pathological  lied since Jan 22nd that this was just a democratic  hoax ....

    All American blood is on his hands 

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    Too bad Trump pathological  lied since Jan 22nd that this was just a democratic  hoax ....

    All American blood is on his hands 

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