The God question-part one
“If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
(deuteronomy has all the fun stuff !!!!! )
“If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
(deuteronomy has all the fun stuff !!!!! )
You want to lay all your point on a verse about a lazy, drunk, awful kid and the handling of him to say the Bible is bad commonman....you can do better
You want to lay all your point on a verse about a lazy, drunk, awful kid and the handling of him to say the Bible is bad commonman....you can do better
"'Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you"
or,,,how about we discuss this famous one,,,,,,what kind of "god"
makes a dude murder his own son just to prove his loyalty.............if
your "god" even asked me to murder my dog- let alone a son, i'd
respectfully tell him to go fuck himself ![]()
What happened in this story? Nothing he was seeing willingness to follow God no matter how crazy. You do not want to believe in any God, enjoy being justified.
"'Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah; and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you"
or,,,how about we discuss this famous one,,,,,,what kind of "god"
makes a dude murder his own son just to prove his loyalty.............if
your "god" even asked me to murder my dog- let alone a son, i'd
respectfully tell him to go fuck himself ![]()
What happened in this story? Nothing he was seeing willingness to follow God no matter how crazy. You do not want to believe in any God, enjoy being justified.
You want to lay all your point on a verse about a lazy, drunk, awful kid and the handling of him to say the Bible is bad commonman....you can do better
ok ,,,,,then i shall,,,,,,,,cause "MY GOD" COMMANDETH ME TO!!!!!!!!!!!!
and ........
because i have no problem exposing your sacred book for what it truly is...........fucking nonsense............... ![]()
i mean this is so much fun that i might even skip the celtics/spurs game tonight............ ![]()
You want to lay all your point on a verse about a lazy, drunk, awful kid and the handling of him to say the Bible is bad commonman....you can do better
ok ,,,,,then i shall,,,,,,,,cause "MY GOD" COMMANDETH ME TO!!!!!!!!!!!!
and ........
because i have no problem exposing your sacred book for what it truly is...........fucking nonsense............... ![]()
i mean this is so much fun that i might even skip the celtics/spurs game tonight............ ![]()
if jesus said the only ground for divorce is adultery, why do these so-called christians keep getting divorced? Am I to speak for all and how does this have anything to do with Jesus. As for me it is awful. It shows many Christians are sinners just like you and me
and, since the bible considers adultery to be such a serious crime, punishable by death, why do so many so-called christians commit adultery without being put to death? Moses gave the law for those people in America we have different rules....
As for Gays sounds like you have an agenda...maybe it hits home, but my brother is Gay and a friend...but marriage is a union of a man and a women, in the US each state gets to decide how to handle that, no church. If you want to live with Gays getting married move where it is allowed
as for the first two points, it sounds like there is an exception for all of the things that are too difficult or inconvenient for christians to follow. why should anyone take christians seriously when no one seems to follow the Good Book and there are loopholes for everything ostensibly sacred.
as for the third point, i do have an agenda. i don't like bigots and people who discriminate against others. believe it or not, you don't have to be gay to have a problem with people discriminating against gays. but i'm perfectly fine to have you assume i am gay. that goes for black people and other minorities. there are white people who don't like discrimination against black people. remember a short time ago when marriage was defined as a union of a man and woman of the same race?
but we can save the gay marriage/discrimination argument for another day. although, to tie it back in to our primary discussion, it's another area where christians lose credibility. the bible says to stone gays. many christians do a good job of discriminating against gays (see the concept of repression in your psychology text) but don't do what the bible requires.
if jesus said the only ground for divorce is adultery, why do these so-called christians keep getting divorced? Am I to speak for all and how does this have anything to do with Jesus. As for me it is awful. It shows many Christians are sinners just like you and me
and, since the bible considers adultery to be such a serious crime, punishable by death, why do so many so-called christians commit adultery without being put to death? Moses gave the law for those people in America we have different rules....
As for Gays sounds like you have an agenda...maybe it hits home, but my brother is Gay and a friend...but marriage is a union of a man and a women, in the US each state gets to decide how to handle that, no church. If you want to live with Gays getting married move where it is allowed
as for the first two points, it sounds like there is an exception for all of the things that are too difficult or inconvenient for christians to follow. why should anyone take christians seriously when no one seems to follow the Good Book and there are loopholes for everything ostensibly sacred.
as for the third point, i do have an agenda. i don't like bigots and people who discriminate against others. believe it or not, you don't have to be gay to have a problem with people discriminating against gays. but i'm perfectly fine to have you assume i am gay. that goes for black people and other minorities. there are white people who don't like discrimination against black people. remember a short time ago when marriage was defined as a union of a man and woman of the same race?
but we can save the gay marriage/discrimination argument for another day. although, to tie it back in to our primary discussion, it's another area where christians lose credibility. the bible says to stone gays. many christians do a good job of discriminating against gays (see the concept of repression in your psychology text) but don't do what the bible requires.
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”
Psalm 137:9
YAY!!!!!!!! BABY BASHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny this is a passage referring and reminding the person what was done to their children not what they should do....but I am sure if you look you will find what God allowed the person to do back to the people who killed Jewish babies
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”
Psalm 137:9
YAY!!!!!!!! BABY BASHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny this is a passage referring and reminding the person what was done to their children not what they should do....but I am sure if you look you will find what God allowed the person to do back to the people who killed Jewish babies
ok ,,,,,then i shall,,,,,,,,cause "MY GOD" COMMANDETH ME TO!!!!!!!!!!!!
and ........
because i have no problem exposing your sacred book for what it truly is...........fucking nonsense............... ![]()
i mean this is so much fun that i might even skip the celtics/spurs game tonight............ ![]()
BTW Jesus is quoted in the New Testament his words and decrees are found in those pages. Read some of that and find your faults....he said I came because these laws and stuff are crazy and out of control
ok ,,,,,then i shall,,,,,,,,cause "MY GOD" COMMANDETH ME TO!!!!!!!!!!!!
and ........
because i have no problem exposing your sacred book for what it truly is...........fucking nonsense............... ![]()
i mean this is so much fun that i might even skip the celtics/spurs game tonight............ ![]()
BTW Jesus is quoted in the New Testament his words and decrees are found in those pages. Read some of that and find your faults....he said I came because these laws and stuff are crazy and out of control
Funny this is a passage referring and reminding the person what was done to their children not what they should do....but I am sure if you look you will find what God allowed the person to do back to the people who killed Jewish babies
I keep giving you a chance to just shut the fuck up and accept defeat,,,,,but you keep pressing me....................
"Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also."
guess team J-Man doesn't like splooging on the floor...............
Funny this is a passage referring and reminding the person what was done to their children not what they should do....but I am sure if you look you will find what God allowed the person to do back to the people who killed Jewish babies
I keep giving you a chance to just shut the fuck up and accept defeat,,,,,but you keep pressing me....................
"Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also."
guess team J-Man doesn't like splooging on the floor...............
“But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?”
2 Kings 18:27
YUMMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?”
2 Kings 18:27
YUMMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I keep giving you a chance to just shut the fuck up and accept defeat,,,,,but you keep pressing me....................
"Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also."
guess team J-Man doesn't like splooging on the floor...............
So God works in mysterious ways I would not go against him....
I keep giving you a chance to just shut the fuck up and accept defeat,,,,,but you keep pressing me....................
"Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also."
guess team J-Man doesn't like splooging on the floor...............
So God works in mysterious ways I would not go against him....
So God works in mysterious ways I would not go against him....
So God works in mysterious ways I would not go against him....
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes."
Judges 21:10-24
this is a long one buddy, but raping and pillaging a village at it's FINEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![]()
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes."
Judges 21:10-24
this is a long one buddy, but raping and pillaging a village at it's FINEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![]()
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not now Timmy,,,,,,,its' bible bashing time ![]()
but seriously, very happy for your friends daughter, but don't see what your argument is here? are you saying that she lived because of the power of prayer?
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not now Timmy,,,,,,,its' bible bashing time ![]()
but seriously, very happy for your friends daughter, but don't see what your argument is here? are you saying that she lived because of the power of prayer?
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“But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?”
2 Kings 18:27
YUMMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If anyone reads this passage they will know you have nothing you are looking for remote odd passages, this is one man saying a crazy statement not God telling people to do this, that is one reason why the person did not follow him and fought back, he was crazy
“But Rabshakeh said unto them, Hath my master sent me to thy master, and to thee, to speak these words? Hath he not sent me to the men which sit on the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?”
2 Kings 18:27
YUMMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If anyone reads this passage they will know you have nothing you are looking for remote odd passages, this is one man saying a crazy statement not God telling people to do this, that is one reason why the person did not follow him and fought back, he was crazy
and how about the millions of people that pray for loved ones to live each year that end up dying???
what? Did they not pray hard enough? loud enough?
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and how about the millions of people that pray for loved ones to live each year that end up dying???
what? Did they not pray hard enough? loud enough?
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For you non-believers, this is an email I just received....
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not now Timmy,,,,,,,its' bible bashing time ![]()
but seriously, very happy for your friends daughter, but don't see what your argument is here? are you saying that she lived because of the power of prayer?
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Prove it is not!
For you non-believers, this is an email I just received....
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not now Timmy,,,,,,,its' bible bashing time ![]()
but seriously, very happy for your friends daughter, but don't see what your argument is here? are you saying that she lived because of the power of prayer?
![]()
Prove it is not!
If anyone reads this passage they will know you have nothing you are looking for remote odd passages, this is one man saying a crazy statement not God telling people to do this, that is one reason why the person did not follow him and fought back, he was crazy
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
unlike you Forty, i'm well versed with the Bible..........this is not an argument you're gonna win ![]()
If anyone reads this passage they will know you have nothing you are looking for remote odd passages, this is one man saying a crazy statement not God telling people to do this, that is one reason why the person did not follow him and fought back, he was crazy
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!
unlike you Forty, i'm well versed with the Bible..........this is not an argument you're gonna win ![]()
Prove it is not!
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you have to be borderline, or at least, mildly, retarded (no offense to retarded people out there) ![]()
Prove it is not!
![]()
you have to be borderline, or at least, mildly, retarded (no offense to retarded people out there) ![]()
and how about the millions of people that pray for loved ones to live each year that end up dying???
what? Did they not pray hard enough? loud enough?
![]()
yea you got it
and how about the millions of people that pray for loved ones to live each year that end up dying???
what? Did they not pray hard enough? loud enough?
![]()
yea you got it
For you non-believers, this is an email I just received....
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not now Timmy,,,,,,,its' bible bashing time ![]()
but seriously, very happy for your friends daughter, but don't see what your argument is here? are you saying that she lived because of the power of prayer?
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yeah, i don't get this one. how is it a christmas miracle? why would God have this girl almost die in an elevator only to bring her back? was She fucking with the girl?
For you non-believers, this is an email I just received....
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not now Timmy,,,,,,,its' bible bashing time ![]()
but seriously, very happy for your friends daughter, but don't see what your argument is here? are you saying that she lived because of the power of prayer?
![]()
yeah, i don't get this one. how is it a christmas miracle? why would God have this girl almost die in an elevator only to bring her back? was She fucking with the girl?
![]()
you have to be borderline, or at least, mildly, retarded (no offense to retarded people out there) ![]()
You got it I am a retard, and you are an idiot
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you have to be borderline, or at least, mildly, retarded (no offense to retarded people out there) ![]()
You got it I am a retard, and you are an idiot
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