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#101
[Quote: Originally Posted by smdio]
Was this sarcastic, or was security really that tight?
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That tight Thats why I said he never worked there
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September 11, 2001 (long read)
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#104
Yes the towers did indeed pancake down, but even if that's the case, they would not fall at Free Fall speed.
Free Fall speed would be dropping an unobstructed object to the ground. The top of that building would have never collapsed that quickly, since it would have taken much more time for the layers to break through each other.
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#105
Quote Originally Posted by smdio:
I was hoping for this question.
Right after I hit "submit" for the original post, I realized that I hadn't included where Flight 93 actually went.
Flight 93 landed in Cleveland at roughly 11:15 AM. At approximately 10:45 AM, all people inside the terminal and waiting areas of the airport were told they had to evacuate immediately. They were told they could not drive or take any of their vehicles. They were forced to WALK away from the airport, and not ask any questions.
Some people refused and tried to get back to gather their personal belongings. These people were told that if they did not comply and tried to gain access back to the airport, they would be shot on site.
At 11:15 AM, Flight 93 landed. At 11:45, it was evacuated and the passengers were taken to an inactive NASA hanger. What happened from there? It's anyone's guess. I highly doubt the government would have killed those passengers, but I absolutely believe that if they are capable of staging such attacks as the ones on the WTC, they are more than capable of sitting down 200 people, and giving them an ultimatum:
"You will not contact your famlies ever again. We will give you new lives with unlimited access to whatever you desire. We will place you in a very undisclosed location and give you new identities. We will watch every move you make and monitor every minute of your daily lives. Should you contact your family or speak of this to anyone, we will kill both them, and you."
Would you agree? I don't think you would have a choice..
Just when I thought Duke University was a top tiered college for academics I read this and now know this isn't the case at all. How about doing a little research on the dead from Flight 93, I'll give you a name if you'd like. Also see Delta Flight 1989, that was the one that actually landed in Cleveland. I haven't looked on the internet, however, I'm sure you will find the correct answer for the landing bit.
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Posted:
#106
Quote Originally Posted by smdio:
Yes the towers did indeed pancake down, but even if that's the case, they would not fall at Free Fall speed.
Free Fall speed would be dropping an unobstructed object to the ground. The top of that building would have never collapsed that quickly, since it would have taken much more time for the layers to break through each other.
Do you know how much weight the upper for are . Just picture all the weight comming down onto each other and the more floors that fell the more and more weight was added thats why it fell so quick . If so called bombs where placed in the parking garage it would of fell from the bottom up
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#107
Quote Originally Posted by jerseykingpin:
Do you know how much weight the upper for are . Just picture all the weight comming down onto each other and the more floors that fell the more and more weight was added thats why it fell so quick . If so called bombs where placed in the parking garage it would of fell from the bottom up
You need to research a little bit about how a Controlled Demolition is set up.
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#114
Quote Originally Posted by gfinger:
Just when I thought Duke University was a top tiered college for academics I read this and now know this isn't the case at all. How about doing a little research on the dead from Flight 93, I'll give you a name if you'd like. Also see Delta Flight 1989, that was the one that actually landed in Cleveland. I haven't looked on the internet, however, I'm sure you will find the correct answer for the landing bit.
Just when I thought Duke University was a top tiered college for academics I read this and now know this isn't the case at all. How about doing a little research on the dead from Flight 93, I'll give you a name if you'd like. Also see Delta Flight 1989, that was the one that actually landed in Cleveland. I haven't looked on the internet, however, I'm sure you will find the correct answer for the landing bit.
False! The Delta flight landed at 9:47 A.M. The following is a transcript where a NORAD official confirms to the 9/11 Commission that Delta Flight 1989 (or as he refers to it, "Delta 89") landed at the Cleveland Airport:
"MR. SCOTT: I'm sorry, 9:41. Again, he is in the system. He is kind of a red herring for us.
Now, the only thing that I would point out on this chart is this says 9:43, American Airlines 77 impacts the Pentagon. The timeline on the impact of the Pentagon was changed to 9:37 -- 9:43 is the time that was reported that day, it was the time we used. And it took about two weeks to discover in the parking lot of the Pentagon this entry camera for the parking lot, which happened to be oriented towards the Pentagon at the time of impact, and the recorded time is 9:37. And that's why the timeline went from 9:43 to 9:37, because it is the best documented evidence for the impact time that we have. Getting toward the end now, 9:47 is when Delta 89 clears the system by landing in Cleveland. So he is not a hijack. Lots of things are going on now in the system as the sectors begin to call both units that are part of 1st Air Force and NORAD, as well as units that have nothing to do with us. We are beginning to call everyone now and the 103rd Air Control Squadron, for instance, stationed in Connecticut, is an air control squadron, a radar squadron, and they got their radar online, operational, and begin to link their radar picture into the Northeast system. They are not normally part of NORAD. This is really the initial part of a huge push the rest of that day to link as many radars in on the interior as we can, and to get as many fighters on alert as we can. "
A complete version of this text can be found here:
https://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing2/9-11Commission_Hearing_2003-05-23.htm
Delta 1989 lands at 9:47 A.M. It took roughly 2 hours to evacuate this plane. Passengers were taken to FAA HQ after the evacuation.
Flight 93 landed at 10:15 A.M. It took only 30 minutes to evacuate this place. Passengers were taken to an "empty" NASA research facility at the airport.
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Posted:
#115
Quote Originally Posted by superwerewolf:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
dont no if its true, dont no if its not true, just info, so dont yell at me guys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
dont no if its true, dont no if its not true, just info, so dont yell at me guys
Operation Northwoods was thought up by an ex-military general. When the plan came across President Kennedy's desk, he immediately dismissed the general from command.
I'm sure you all agree, there is a humongous difference between President Kennedy, and President Bush...
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#117
im with u smdio,the best defense in the world let a plane hit the pentagon and the fighter jets did not intercept it ,im not even sure if the radio towers radio in on the plane to see wants going on when it went off course. government,nwo, illumanti,Bilderberg,rothschild,rockerfeller,what ever you want to call these global elites.there a crafty bunch. keep the debate going as you can buddy ,questioning everything will bring out the truth. governments around the world seem to have the people 2nd, which makes sense cause they need help themselves before they can help others.but i feel these guys have no limit.
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#123
Everyone has there own opinions and theories including myself.Its just fkn mind boggling what is out there and what some people think the government could of done myself being one of them. Some things are clear as day and some are not.Obviously planes hit the twin towers.And I agree with you smdio with the shanksville hole in the ground.But the most noticeable thing is that the pentagon was not hit by a plane. If it was,where is the planes wingspan and the damage to the left and right of the gapping hole in the pentagon.It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see it was some sort of missile.Its clear as day. Like the supposed PA crash where are the remnants of the people, luggage or the actually fkn plane and Why would they pull the tapes on the videos surrounding one of the most secured areas in the US. O wait it must of been to devastating to watch.It just doesnt make sense.I dont know how they could of pulled off the cell phone calls or having those planes land and say they didnt if that was the case. Where did all those people go? The other thing that bothers the shit out of me is that the US had no problem going in and plucking Saddam from a fkn mole hole, but the supposed mastermind behind 9-11 is still out there after 10 years? We can bang our heads against the wall till we die and probably never find out the truth.
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#124
Quote Originally Posted by bfskate26:
no, where has it been leaked
no, where has it been leaked
I live very close to where the crash happened and everyone who was interviewed on the local news that day had the same story. They reported seeing the Plane go down with fireballs coming out of it and some said they had seen 2 other planes flying around it. 2 Fighter jets were reported to have been on flight 93 after it made it's turn near Ohio.
It just seems too close of a coincidence that the "passengers" decided to crash the plane in the middle of nowhere.
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