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tlm, if i understand your question, and i'm not sure i do, you have to understand how the law views a minor.  i'll use an obvious example. 

assume kobe bryant is pissed because he missed the game winning shot and is in his hotel room when the hot little maid comes in and he forcibly has sex with her against her will.  not saying that happened (not saying it didn't), just using it as an example.  we can all agree that's rape and that's a crime.  it's a crime because the other person has to consent for any legal sexual contact to take place.  under the law, minors (anyone under 18) are automatically in the same position as that woman when any adult attempts to have sexual contact with them.  they are not emotionally and mentally in a position to legally consent to sexual contact with an adult so any such contact is considered non-consensual and a crime.  that's how it works.

adults, on the other hand, can consent to any sexual contact and the law doesn't distinguish between hetero or homosexual contact between adults.  and it shouldn't make a distinction. 

as for whether pedophiles are born that way or chose to abuse children, based on my experience, i think pedohiles have some innate, mental flaw that predisposes them to like children.  obviously, it's ultimately a choice, but i think they have things going on where some of them can't control the urge.  however, even if they are born with the pedophile gene 100% and can't control it, that's irrelevant in my mind as to whether they should be put in prison for it because the greater interest is to protect children.

God created everything...with the seahorse, it's the MALE that gets pregnant.  Explain that.

When you find a male human that can get pregnant then get back to us ,until they you're stupid statement is just that: stupid

HAHAHA this is funny.  The worst slippery slope argument I may have ever seen in my life.

I agree just like I agree gay people are born with a mental flaw that predisposes them to like men instead of women .But just as you said on pedifiles its a choice even if you're born with the urge.

People here are saying gays have no choice and they have a choice just like pedifiles do.

I'm not defending pedifiles because I think they are sick people but if gays choose who they desire so do pedifiles. If gays are born that way so are pedifiles

You said in the end pedifiles still have a choice even if they have the urge so you agree gays are the same?

alabamaman, i don't know what kind of schools they have in alabama, or if they just do home schooling, but there's no level of reading comprehension that would lead you to believe anyone in here expressed an opinion about the aids virus. 

however, if you are asking my opinion about spreading the aids virus, i'm against it, whether the person spreading the virus is gay, straight, a drug user or a negligent medical professional. 

While I agree with you gays have a choice I think your above statement is plain stupid

tlm, i agree that ultimately it's a choice but not much of one.  i think the person's choice to like other guys is the same as your and my choice to like women.  if the shoe was on the other foot and every religious nut or redneck in the world told me i'm bad for liking women i'd probably have some emotional scars during my formative years from being told something so basic to me was wrong but at the end of the day, i'd tell the religious wackos and rednecks to fuck off and still hook up with women, and ultimately marry one.  that would be my choice, but it would be a choice where i really wouldn't give the other option much consideration.  i assume you are the same.

so, yes, person can choose to be with women just like you and i could choose to be with guys.  but not all choices are equal.  i'm guessing it's the same for pedophiles. 

All sexual orientation is genetic to a certain degree.

The difference between a pedifile and a homosexual is so obvious and has been stated so many times in this thread - one is victimless and the other has one.

We dont know how to deal with pedifiles in this day and age - so we lock them up because they are a danger to society - there are VICTIMS.

What is so hard to understand about this?

Where do you live?

Im picturing a shack in the woods, no running water.  Close?

Tideman.....drop it, you are invloved in an argument with mental defectives, God haters,  demented lunatics, and liberals who don't believe there is right and wrong, good or evil...everything is relative.....

STOP THE DISCUSSION...LEAVE...That's my advice.

Man it's so crazy how uninformed some people are on subjects.  You just provided the craziest slippery slope ever, and then try to act like I was making fun of people with aids when in reality I was laughing at how ridiculously uninformed you are and how your argument structure doesn't even qualify as valid, let alone the substance of your arguments.

You forgot to mention we don't believe in fairytales either....

you don't?

well most of you believe that obama was born in the USA...don't you?

Your whole life is Obama....all you do is talk about the guy...make your avatar different pictures of him.

Any coincidence you're in a homosexual topic and can't keep his name out of your mouth?

I'm not American, I don't care where he was born.

You're missing the point totally. No ones arguing that with pedifiles there arent victims all I'm saying is they they do have a choice who they want to be with just like gays do.

Either they both have a choice who they want to be with or they(gays and pedifiles) are born this way .It cant be pedifiles have a choice who they desire and gays dont .Just because two men together seems ok to everyone but a 60 year old man wanting a 8 year is gross doesnt mean their urges and desires dont come about the same way

you are the God hater.  i prayed about it and the answer was ordained.  God created homosexuals because and wants at least 10% of the population to be homosexual.  don't deny God's will.

This is true....their desires may come from the same place but that doesn't mean they are both equal in terms of actions taken as a result of those urges.

The only choice you can make as a pedophile, is to obey or not obey the law.  You can't choose to not like children.  So that is there only real choice.  One choice affects society negatively, more specifically children.

A gay person can choose to pretend to be straight or can act themselves and be gay.  Neither choice hurts any children/families/society etc.  It only affects the adults involved.

Hey, genius..did the harsh canadien winter freeze with little braincells you have left.....I started this thread for general discussion...i haven't commented about what was being discussed until now...the question is....why are YOU involved in a topic about homosexuality...obviously you are greatly bothered by the perceptions that tideman is offering....it's ok, just come out of the closet..it doesn't matter what anyone thinks....does it?

you are using logic to answer your question, but is your logic sound?  your logic is that gays and pedophiles have the same mental makeup when it comes to making a choice for a preferred sexual partner.  i wonder if that's too simple of a comparison and the genetic and emotional components involved are more complex than that so as to make a straight comparison too convenient and limited.  i wonder if there are degrees of urges and genetic makeup here (what of bisexuals?).  that being said, i would agree with your conclusion. 

then by extension, straight people have the same ability to choose to be straight, or otherwise.  or in other words, heterosexuals have the same uncontrollable urge to be straight and ultimate inability to choose go gay when they reallty are straight.  so we call it a choice because a person must choose to do the act, but it's not really a choice as we normally understand the word.  when i have sex with a woman, that's my choice, but it's really not within the realm of possibility for me to have sex with a guy so how much of a choice is it really?

if your logic, or at least your conclusion, is sound, then you should also come to the conclusion that gays really don't have a choice, just like you and i could really never choose to be person as we discussed previously. 

You mean WHAT little braincells I have left? 

If I were gay I would proudly let the Covers brothers know.  I've met countless gay people with more guts and integrity then you or your fellow bigots.

Jerk