Quote Originally Posted by Sharkysden:
This thread is like religion or politics, just makes me laugh.
First off, if a strategy is working for someone then by all means keep doing it. The only thing that matters is cashing tickets.
I'm going to take a turn here and defend Broncofn, there is an art form to finding true RLM's if you know what to look for and you are selective you can pick some winners.
If you bet every RLM on the board you're going to lose your shirt. It takes extra research, but you can narrow down a card pretty fast by looking for them. That's all I'm going to say about RLM, I just feel Broncofn needed a little support here.
Next, back to cd329, I get it, I know what you're saying, I see the difference you're trying to explain. But I still don't buy it.
Here's why I don't buy it, and I said this before. The average public doesn't know what an RLM is. In my opinion, the average covers member is a little more knowledgeable than the average public bettor, including you cd329. The percentage of members here that know about RLM is pretty small. The majority of the public doesn't even have a clue why the line moves.
I just don't see books trying to fake an RLM to try and trick the average public into a play. More money would go with the move than against it.
and yes, I did own Sharky's Gambling Den from 2001- 2010. It was an informational gambling site. I did have free picks on the site but I never touted and never charged for anything. Why I closed the site is a different subject, the DOJ witch hunts did help my decision.
I will say it again, you keep saying you understand what am saying but you dont and thats because you keep friggin talking about reverse line moves and the public betting.
Am not talking about reverse line moves one bit and am not talking about the guy making parlays out.
Am talking about the bettors who pay for line services and follow line moves. The kind of guys who pay for live line services like don best, etc etc which obviously you cant seem to grasp. The book might be taking in to much favorite money and instead of raising the line and having the line watchers put even more money on the favorite, they actually lower the line and all thiose line watchers think its sharp money moving the line, so they jump on the dog, which then spreads to the internet messageboards and guys start talking about sharp money hitting the game and all tha blah blah blah talk, which in turn accomplishes what the book wanted some action bet on the dog to help balance out their favorite money.
Now i dont give a rats ass if you believe this or not and i also dont care what a few others here think, i have been doing this way to many years and have wrote for some big shops on the east coast in my younger years, so am pretty sure i know what am talking about.
If you think or believe everytime a book moves a line, its because they took money on that side, you my friend are a complete dumbass and should learn about line reading before you make another bet.
Alot also has to do with who actually has money on the game. You might have a whale who has 50k on a game, but a real sharp bettor who only has 2k on thew game. They might have so much respect for that 2k bettor, that they will actually move the line the way the 2k bettor bet, then move it the way the dumbass whale bet, who just happens to have alot of money to lose.
But hey, you keep doing whatever your doing if its winning, good luck to you

like i said about the packers-vikes game
If the books would have kept raising the line on the packer game, they would have been buried with even more packer money, so they had to create an illusion that sharps were betting the vikes. Heres a little stat you probably didnt even know, 85- 90 percent of all nfl games the spread dont matter at all.
last week the spread only mattered in 4 games and the week before it mattered in zero games.
So a person would really have to be a dumb ass using those percentages to think the vikes were gonna somehow beat the packers outright, especially not having a secondary that night which could match up with packers recievers.
anybody that bets an nfl dog and hopes to win with just the spread is a complete dumbass and should also quit betting. If you dont think your dog can win outright, then your really better off just passing on the game due to the fact that 85- 90 percent of games, the line dont matter. Its tough to try and buck stats like that