With Green Bay as with Houston yesterday, I believe lots of players were waiting on a bigger number. 7 with Detroit and 3.5 maybe with Tulsa. When it became obvious that wasn't going to happen, money poured in on the dog. Just my opinion.
Why don't we just wait for Detroit +43?
There is a number given, there is a side to take or not. So is your feeling that if you don't get your number you have to take a side anyway? Good luck!
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Quote Originally Posted by pjrez:
With Green Bay as with Houston yesterday, I believe lots of players were waiting on a bigger number. 7 with Detroit and 3.5 maybe with Tulsa. When it became obvious that wasn't going to happen, money poured in on the dog. Just my opinion.
Why don't we just wait for Detroit +43?
There is a number given, there is a side to take or not. So is your feeling that if you don't get your number you have to take a side anyway? Good luck!
please your just trying to sugar coat a bunch of a bullshit. The reverse line moves i posted went 1-9 early on. read the chart yourself.
please RE-POST the games that YOU consider RLM on this thread because i dont see anything that you posted as RLM. I posted the games that i took, winners and losers that i considered as RLM and had a very good day. i will look over the games that you considered and i will tell you if i agree.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
please your just trying to sugar coat a bunch of a bullshit. The reverse line moves i posted went 1-9 early on. read the chart yourself.
please RE-POST the games that YOU consider RLM on this thread because i dont see anything that you posted as RLM. I posted the games that i took, winners and losers that i considered as RLM and had a very good day. i will look over the games that you considered and i will tell you if i agree.
what am i trying to sugar coat??? an over of 81 1/2 already hit with still the 4th quarter to play douche!!! look where the line opened with percentage of bets and look where it closed. that is rlm and it already won, point made asshole!!! 4-0 on over under alone and a 5-2 day douche
Percentage bets means zero.
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Quote Originally Posted by broncofn:
what am i trying to sugar coat??? an over of 81 1/2 already hit with still the 4th quarter to play douche!!! look where the line opened with percentage of bets and look where it closed. that is rlm and it already won, point made asshole!!! 4-0 on over under alone and a 5-2 day douche
this is and always be a neverending discussion, period. it has been argued over and over. to each his own and just do what wins you money, period. we are all just trying to beat the book with whatever system, strategy, etc we have. goodluck to everyone.
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this is and always be a neverending discussion, period. it has been argued over and over. to each his own and just do what wins you money, period. we are all just trying to beat the book with whatever system, strategy, etc we have. goodluck to everyone.
wow you are clueless. am talking about false line moves, not reverse line movements. heres an example and maybe then you can grasp it.
lets say team A is playing team b. Team a is a 14 point fav and the real sharps are playing them and of course the public is probably playing team to begin with, just for the simple fact that they are the favorite. So instead of the book moving the line up and then probably having even more bettors hit team A because they think sharp money might be hitting it, they actually lower the line down to -13 and then all the line watchers{who bet lots of money} and people on the messageboards start thinking the real sharps are hitting team B, when in fact they were hitting team A. So now money comes in on team B, which helps balance their books and of course team A crushes team b. That is what a fake move looks like and if you dont think it happens you should quit gambling tonight. what do i know, am not a bigtime tout like you. I wish i would just wait for these type of plays to come up, they come in at a pretty good rate.
So public and sharps are on Team A at -14 and the line drops to -13? How is that not a reverse line move? You're bashing these guy's for betting reverse line moves and your preaching basically the same thing except when you see the move you bet opposite of the RLM bettor?
And what's all this tout shit? I've never touted in my life, I don't even waist my time posting my picks on this site.
Here's a tip for you big pro, Cap your games get the best line and cash some tickets. Don't waist your time thinking Vegas is out to trick you.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
wow you are clueless. am talking about false line moves, not reverse line movements. heres an example and maybe then you can grasp it.
lets say team A is playing team b. Team a is a 14 point fav and the real sharps are playing them and of course the public is probably playing team to begin with, just for the simple fact that they are the favorite. So instead of the book moving the line up and then probably having even more bettors hit team A because they think sharp money might be hitting it, they actually lower the line down to -13 and then all the line watchers{who bet lots of money} and people on the messageboards start thinking the real sharps are hitting team B, when in fact they were hitting team A. So now money comes in on team B, which helps balance their books and of course team A crushes team b. That is what a fake move looks like and if you dont think it happens you should quit gambling tonight. what do i know, am not a bigtime tout like you. I wish i would just wait for these type of plays to come up, they come in at a pretty good rate.
So public and sharps are on Team A at -14 and the line drops to -13? How is that not a reverse line move? You're bashing these guy's for betting reverse line moves and your preaching basically the same thing except when you see the move you bet opposite of the RLM bettor?
And what's all this tout shit? I've never touted in my life, I don't even waist my time posting my picks on this site.
Here's a tip for you big pro, Cap your games get the best line and cash some tickets. Don't waist your time thinking Vegas is out to trick you.
BINGO!!!! yes, a line move in the wrong direction and a percentage on the other side is a RLM. EX: line for kentucky opened at +9 and dropped to +5 1/2 when i bet it with 72% on tennessee. why would the line drop that much with the action on tennessee??? another example: over/under for baylor opened at 78 and closed at 82 before kickoff with 59 % on the under. the over already went over before 4th quarter. that is RLM. but like i said, you need to pick and choose your spots. just because a line moved 1 point in the wrong direction doesnt mean it is considered rlm to me. everything has to match up.
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Quote Originally Posted by catmur9:
Wrong direction?
WTF are you talking about?
BINGO!!!! yes, a line move in the wrong direction and a percentage on the other side is a RLM. EX: line for kentucky opened at +9 and dropped to +5 1/2 when i bet it with 72% on tennessee. why would the line drop that much with the action on tennessee??? another example: over/under for baylor opened at 78 and closed at 82 before kickoff with 59 % on the under. the over already went over before 4th quarter. that is RLM. but like i said, you need to pick and choose your spots. just because a line moved 1 point in the wrong direction doesnt mean it is considered rlm to me. everything has to match up.
in the minority of what? anyone with 2 good sets of eyes would have seen a good rlm in all 4 of those games. go back and check yourself and prove me wrong.
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Quote Originally Posted by catmur9:
You are in the minority. Good work.
in the minority of what? anyone with 2 good sets of eyes would have seen a good rlm in all 4 of those games. go back and check yourself and prove me wrong.
BINGO!!!! yes, a line move in the wrong direction and a percentage on the other side is a RLM. EX: line for kentucky opened at +9 and dropped to +5 1/2 when i bet it with 72% on tennessee. why would the line drop that much with the action on tennessee??? another example: over/under for baylor opened at 78 and closed at 82 before kickoff with 59 % on the under. the over already went over before 4th quarter. that is RLM. but like i said, you need to pick and choose your spots. just because a line moved 1 point in the wrong direction doesnt mean it is considered rlm to me. everything has to match up.
There is never a wrong side. There might be a weighted side if you are knowledgable enough.
Percentages mean nothing, nada, zero, bubkis. Why would anyone care what others are on? The only thing that matters is the number. I have never once looked at percetages, who cares. If you do you are just the so called public which is a misnomer in itself.
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Quote Originally Posted by broncofn:
BINGO!!!! yes, a line move in the wrong direction and a percentage on the other side is a RLM. EX: line for kentucky opened at +9 and dropped to +5 1/2 when i bet it with 72% on tennessee. why would the line drop that much with the action on tennessee??? another example: over/under for baylor opened at 78 and closed at 82 before kickoff with 59 % on the under. the over already went over before 4th quarter. that is RLM. but like i said, you need to pick and choose your spots. just because a line moved 1 point in the wrong direction doesnt mean it is considered rlm to me. everything has to match up.
There is never a wrong side. There might be a weighted side if you are knowledgable enough.
Percentages mean nothing, nada, zero, bubkis. Why would anyone care what others are on? The only thing that matters is the number. I have never once looked at percetages, who cares. If you do you are just the so called public which is a misnomer in itself.
So public and sharps are on Team A at -14 and the line drops to -13? How is that not a reverse line move? You're bashing these guy's for betting reverse line moves and your preaching basically the same thing except when you see the move you bet opposite of the RLM bettor?
And what's all this tout shit? I've never touted in my life, I don't even waist my time posting my picks on this site.
Here's a tip for you big pro, Cap your games get the best line and cash some tickets. Don't waist your time thinking Vegas is out to trick you.
am not talking about reverse line moves.
these guys are talking about reverse line moves. Heres an example of what they are talking about.
mich st line opens up 7 it drops down to 6 yet according to all these bullshit sites like sports insights, they are showing the percentage of bettors on mich st at 67 percent. Thats a reverse line move, to these guys. I tried telling them just following that crap will put in the poor house.
What i was talking about later on in the thread about fake moves is entirely differnt. What am talking about is the book just creating a line move for no reason, other then to get bettors to jump on that move thinking a ton of sharp money just came in, when none really came in. Its bascially the herd mentality get the bettors jumping on something that isnt real. This is entirely differnt then reverse line moves. I have tried to explain it the best i can, sorry that you cant grasp it. There was a couple of guys in the thread that knew exactly what i was talking about.
Oh and one other thing, you dont and didnt have a website called sharkys den? sure you didnt
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Quote Originally Posted by Sharkysden:
So public and sharps are on Team A at -14 and the line drops to -13? How is that not a reverse line move? You're bashing these guy's for betting reverse line moves and your preaching basically the same thing except when you see the move you bet opposite of the RLM bettor?
And what's all this tout shit? I've never touted in my life, I don't even waist my time posting my picks on this site.
Here's a tip for you big pro, Cap your games get the best line and cash some tickets. Don't waist your time thinking Vegas is out to trick you.
am not talking about reverse line moves.
these guys are talking about reverse line moves. Heres an example of what they are talking about.
mich st line opens up 7 it drops down to 6 yet according to all these bullshit sites like sports insights, they are showing the percentage of bettors on mich st at 67 percent. Thats a reverse line move, to these guys. I tried telling them just following that crap will put in the poor house.
What i was talking about later on in the thread about fake moves is entirely differnt. What am talking about is the book just creating a line move for no reason, other then to get bettors to jump on that move thinking a ton of sharp money just came in, when none really came in. Its bascially the herd mentality get the bettors jumping on something that isnt real. This is entirely differnt then reverse line moves. I have tried to explain it the best i can, sorry that you cant grasp it. There was a couple of guys in the thread that knew exactly what i was talking about.
Oh and one other thing, you dont and didnt have a website called sharkys den? sure you didnt
in the minority of what? anyone with 2 good sets of eyes would have seen a good rlm in all 4 of those games. go back and check yourself and prove me wrong.
georgia opened 6 line dropped to 4- 67 percent were on georgia= geo tech is a reverse line play =loser
vandy opened -1 line went to wake -1 56 percent on vandy= wake is a reverse line play =loser
nc st opened 13 line went to 12 73 percent on nc st = maryland reverse line play =loser
bosie st opened 31 went to 32 only 34 percent on boise= boise st is the reverse line play =loser
Do you want me to keep lsiting all the reverse line losers for today, just because you ahppened to get lucky and pick out a few of the winners, that doesnt mean this shit works. Its a losing bet long term and thats a fact. reason being is the numbers you see just arent true. If somebody right out of a big sportsbook was giving you info, that could be useful
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Quote Originally Posted by broncofn:
in the minority of what? anyone with 2 good sets of eyes would have seen a good rlm in all 4 of those games. go back and check yourself and prove me wrong.
georgia opened 6 line dropped to 4- 67 percent were on georgia= geo tech is a reverse line play =loser
vandy opened -1 line went to wake -1 56 percent on vandy= wake is a reverse line play =loser
nc st opened 13 line went to 12 73 percent on nc st = maryland reverse line play =loser
bosie st opened 31 went to 32 only 34 percent on boise= boise st is the reverse line play =loser
Do you want me to keep lsiting all the reverse line losers for today, just because you ahppened to get lucky and pick out a few of the winners, that doesnt mean this shit works. Its a losing bet long term and thats a fact. reason being is the numbers you see just arent true. If somebody right out of a big sportsbook was giving you info, that could be useful
Not sure bout georgia, never saw it. I was on wf and they went up to -2. Boise n md have had rlm on them ALL year if u keep an eye on it. Like i said, u gotta pick your spots. Btw, i was on syracuse also which was a loser
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Not sure bout georgia, never saw it. I was on wf and they went up to -2. Boise n md have had rlm on them ALL year if u keep an eye on it. Like i said, u gotta pick your spots. Btw, i was on syracuse also which was a loser
Not sure bout georgia, never saw it. I was on wf and they went up to -2. Boise n md have had rlm on them ALL year if u keep an eye on it. Like i said, u gotta pick your spots. Btw, i was on syracuse also which was a loser
picking your spots is not what they have all been talking about. This argument was about playing all the reverse line moves and i said playing them all long term would put you in the poorhouse. congrats if you were able to pick the ones that won.
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Quote Originally Posted by broncofn:
Not sure bout georgia, never saw it. I was on wf and they went up to -2. Boise n md have had rlm on them ALL year if u keep an eye on it. Like i said, u gotta pick your spots. Btw, i was on syracuse also which was a loser
picking your spots is not what they have all been talking about. This argument was about playing all the reverse line moves and i said playing them all long term would put you in the poorhouse. congrats if you were able to pick the ones that won.
And i never said about playing every single rlm. Yes, if u play every one, its a losing proposition like you said. But if you know what to look for, you can make money, i havent had a losing season in the last 4 years whether you believe it or not. I only bet nba, ncaaf, and nfl. I can tell you that it doesnt work in nba playoffs, coll bowl season and nfl playoffs. But if you manage your money right and pick your spots, theres money to be made. Just dont bet every single rlm blindly.
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And i never said about playing every single rlm. Yes, if u play every one, its a losing proposition like you said. But if you know what to look for, you can make money, i havent had a losing season in the last 4 years whether you believe it or not. I only bet nba, ncaaf, and nfl. I can tell you that it doesnt work in nba playoffs, coll bowl season and nfl playoffs. But if you manage your money right and pick your spots, theres money to be made. Just dont bet every single rlm blindly.
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