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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:19 PM ET #76

Quote Originally Posted by cacabware:

 

with all due respect to the "believers" out there,,,,i don't understand how this is not common sense to people..............


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with all due respect to the "believers" out there,,,,i don't understand how this is not common sense to people..............


 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:22 PM ET #77

Quote Originally Posted by RichardA:

It's apparent that you have no conception of what the bible is about.  Religious people live on FAITH...and FAITH alone...The bible says that EACH LIFE HAS A PLAN, and even the hairs on your head are counted!.....

This is SATANS world according to the bible, and a minister handing out bibles is a prime target for the evil one. 

 Demonic forces probably had something to do with that car crashing into that man....it's ok though, he's in a MUCH better place now...RIP


or not....

I don't presume to know.....


RIP  

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It's apparent that you have no conception of what the bible is about.  Religious people live on FAITH...and FAITH alone...The bible says that EACH LIFE HAS A PLAN, and even the hairs on your head are counted!.....

This is SATANS world according to the bible, and a minister handing out bibles is a prime target for the evil one. 

 Demonic forces probably had something to do with that car crashing into that man....it's ok though, he's in a MUCH better place now...RIP


or not....

I don't presume to know.....


RIP  

 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:32 PM ET #78

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That is point: GOD is in control of every thing and people find it very hard to understand. We can only trust by faith and except that God knows what is best for our life. [/Quotes

 

so its official,,,with the exception of my boy clubdirt,,,it appears as thought TEXAS is pro-religion,,,,,i for one,,,,AM SHOCKED!!!!!!

 

Hence, that is why TEXAS is the best fucking place to live in this country.  Even in this shitty economy Texas is striving and northeners cant wait to get here.  Game over, biotch.

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That is point: GOD is in control of every thing and people find it very hard to understand. We can only trust by faith and except that God knows what is best for our life. [/Quotes

 

so its official,,,with the exception of my boy clubdirt,,,it appears as thought TEXAS is pro-religion,,,,,i for one,,,,AM SHOCKED!!!!!!

 

Hence, that is why TEXAS is the best fucking place to live in this country.  Even in this shitty economy Texas is striving and northeners cant wait to get here.  Game over, biotch.

 
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I don't know God but I fear his wrath.I'm just tryin' to stay focused on the righteous path.

I don't go to church and I rarely pray but I do consider myself a christian.I live far from a sin free life but I try to do right by my fellow man, and I do what I reasonably can to help take care of our planet that he created.If it bothers anybody that I believe in God I could give a fuck.

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I don't know God but I fear his wrath.I'm just tryin' to stay focused on the righteous path.

I don't go to church and I rarely pray but I do consider myself a christian.I live far from a sin free life but I try to do right by my fellow man, and I do what I reasonably can to help take care of our planet that he created.If it bothers anybody that I believe in God I could give a fuck.

 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:36 PM ET #80

Satan doesn't want you to believe he is real. The ones who dont believe he is are falling into his plan and the sheep will follow his command.
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Satan doesn't want you to believe he is real. The ones who dont believe he is are falling into his plan and the sheep will follow his command.
 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:39 PM ET #81

Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

I don't know God but I fear his wrath.I'm just tryin' to stay focused on the righteous path.

I don't go to church and I rarely pray but I do consider myself a christian.I live far from a sin free life but I try to do right by my fellow man, and I do what I reasonably can to help take care of our planet that he created.If it bothers anybody that I believe in God I could give a fuck.

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I don't know God but I fear his wrath.I'm just tryin' to stay focused on the righteous path.

I don't go to church and I rarely pray but I do consider myself a christian.I live far from a sin free life but I try to do right by my fellow man, and I do what I reasonably can to help take care of our planet that he created.If it bothers anybody that I believe in God I could give a fuck.

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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:43 PM ET #82

Quote Originally Posted by D_Unit:

Satan doesn't want you to believe he is real. The ones who dont believe he is are falling into his plan and the sheep will follow his command.

Exactly...he uses people like ClubDirt and Mikael ( they don't doesn't know they are  being used) to mock believers and spread doubt and confusion about Gods' very existence.

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Satan doesn't want you to believe he is real. The ones who dont believe he is are falling into his plan and the sheep will follow his command.

Exactly...he uses people like ClubDirt and Mikael ( they don't doesn't know they are  being used) to mock believers and spread doubt and confusion about Gods' very existence.

 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:46 PM ET #83

Quote Originally Posted by RichardA:

It's apparent that you have no conception of what the bible is about.  Religious people live on FAITH...and FAITH alone...The bible says that EACH LIFE HAS A PLAN, and even the hairs on your head are counted!.....

This is SATANS world according to the bible, and a minister handing out bibles is a prime target for the evil one. 

 Demonic forces probably had something to do with that car crashing into that man....it's ok though, he's in a MUCH better place now...RIP


cacab, i think we have our answer.  the demons have won.  i, for one, am relieved.  i'm off to the strip club and then sleep in late tomorrow.  can anyone give me a good reason why i shouldn't?

and i never understood that he/she is in a better place now.  the guy wasn't sick.  he had a nice family.  he was a priest so he was probably getting paid pretty well to just say things without ever having to prove any of it.  what evidence is there that he's in a better place now?  and if you are sure he's in a better place now, why don't more people go to that place voluntarily?  
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It's apparent that you have no conception of what the bible is about.  Religious people live on FAITH...and FAITH alone...The bible says that EACH LIFE HAS A PLAN, and even the hairs on your head are counted!.....

This is SATANS world according to the bible, and a minister handing out bibles is a prime target for the evil one. 

 Demonic forces probably had something to do with that car crashing into that man....it's ok though, he's in a MUCH better place now...RIP


cacab, i think we have our answer.  the demons have won.  i, for one, am relieved.  i'm off to the strip club and then sleep in late tomorrow.  can anyone give me a good reason why i shouldn't?

and i never understood that he/she is in a better place now.  the guy wasn't sick.  he had a nice family.  he was a priest so he was probably getting paid pretty well to just say things without ever having to prove any of it.  what evidence is there that he's in a better place now?  and if you are sure he's in a better place now, why don't more people go to that place voluntarily?  
 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:47 PM ET #84



No mocking by me- just leave me alone-

To each his/her own-


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No mocking by me- just leave me alone-

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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:49 PM ET #85

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Exactly...he uses people like ClubDirt and Mikael ( they don't doesn't know they are  being used) to mock believers and spread doubt and confusion about Gods' very existence.


why do you take my questions as mocking?  does your God tell you it's bad, demonic even, for someone to ask questions about your religion?  
i agree i'm confused about God's very existence.  i'd love to eliminate that confusion.  best way to do that is with facts, evidence, observation.  i'll even accept logical, rational answers to my questions rather than hostility.  what do you have for me? 
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Exactly...he uses people like ClubDirt and Mikael ( they don't doesn't know they are  being used) to mock believers and spread doubt and confusion about Gods' very existence.


why do you take my questions as mocking?  does your God tell you it's bad, demonic even, for someone to ask questions about your religion?  
i agree i'm confused about God's very existence.  i'd love to eliminate that confusion.  best way to do that is with facts, evidence, observation.  i'll even accept logical, rational answers to my questions rather than hostility.  what do you have for me? 
 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 9:55 PM ET #86

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It's apparent that you have no conception of what the bible is about.  Religious people live on FAITH...and FAITH alone...The bible says that EACH LIFE HAS A PLAN, and even the hairs on your head are counted!.....

This is SATANS world according to the bible, and a minister handing out bibles is a prime target for the evil one. 

 Demonic forces probably had something to do with that car crashing into that man....it's ok though, he's in a MUCH better place now...RIP

I'll go with: Bone and flesh doesn't hold up very well when struck by a heap of metal travelling at high speed - over the demonic forces theorem

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It's apparent that you have no conception of what the bible is about.  Religious people live on FAITH...and FAITH alone...The bible says that EACH LIFE HAS A PLAN, and even the hairs on your head are counted!.....

This is SATANS world according to the bible, and a minister handing out bibles is a prime target for the evil one. 

 Demonic forces probably had something to do with that car crashing into that man....it's ok though, he's in a MUCH better place now...RIP

I'll go with: Bone and flesh doesn't hold up very well when struck by a heap of metal travelling at high speed - over the demonic forces theorem

 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 10:11 PM ET #87

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:


why do you take my questions as mocking?  does your God tell you it's bad, demonic even, for someone to ask questions about your religion?  
i agree i'm confused about God's very existence.  i'd love to eliminate that confusion.  best way to do that is with facts, evidence, observation.  i'll even accept logical, rational answers to my questions rather than hostility.  what do you have for me? 

It's obvious by your avatar that you are mocking people of faith with your "'question" and only looking to stir-up a shit-storm.

Religion, especially the Christian religion is based on FAITH.  You either have it or you don't.  Nobody has faith all of the time, and living in a world where the ruler of the world is the head demon himself, (SATAN) Christians are under fire all of the time.  The Christian religion calls for believers to live with only one foot in this world...the things of this world are supposed to to essentially meaningless...Christians are supposed to live for life after death, but that is better said than done, as anyone with faith knows oh, too well...Faith is the key...

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why do you take my questions as mocking?  does your God tell you it's bad, demonic even, for someone to ask questions about your religion?  
i agree i'm confused about God's very existence.  i'd love to eliminate that confusion.  best way to do that is with facts, evidence, observation.  i'll even accept logical, rational answers to my questions rather than hostility.  what do you have for me? 

It's obvious by your avatar that you are mocking people of faith with your "'question" and only looking to stir-up a shit-storm.

Religion, especially the Christian religion is based on FAITH.  You either have it or you don't.  Nobody has faith all of the time, and living in a world where the ruler of the world is the head demon himself, (SATAN) Christians are under fire all of the time.  The Christian religion calls for believers to live with only one foot in this world...the things of this world are supposed to to essentially meaningless...Christians are supposed to live for life after death, but that is better said than done, as anyone with faith knows oh, too well...Faith is the key...

 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 10:27 PM ET #88

yeah, my avatar does have a mocking tone, but it's more of a response to the less tolerant aspect of religion that i see so much of between the two extremely similar religions of islam and christianity.  but if you are the kind of christian that sees everyone as equal- muslims, atheists, gays, blacks, etc. then the message certainly isn't directed to you.   

i guess you answered some questions to some extent but i was confused when you were talking about things you know such as demons and a better place and God's existence but then youdid a 180 and attributed it all to faith.  we may just have different definitions of the word "know."  
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yeah, my avatar does have a mocking tone, but it's more of a response to the less tolerant aspect of religion that i see so much of between the two extremely similar religions of islam and christianity.  but if you are the kind of christian that sees everyone as equal- muslims, atheists, gays, blacks, etc. then the message certainly isn't directed to you.   

i guess you answered some questions to some extent but i was confused when you were talking about things you know such as demons and a better place and God's existence but then youdid a 180 and attributed it all to faith.  we may just have different definitions of the word "know."  
 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 10:40 PM ET #89

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

yeah, my avatar does have a mocking tone, but it's more of a response to the less tolerant aspect of religion that i see so much of between the two extremely similar religions of islam and christianity.  but if you are the kind of christian that sees everyone as equal- muslims, atheists, gays, blacks, etc. then the message certainly isn't directed to you.   

i guess you answered some questions to some extent but i was confused when you were talking about things you know such as demons and a better place and God's existence but then youdid a 180 and attributed it all to faith.  we may just have different definitions of the word "know."  


NOBODY knows for sure where they are going after they die, even the POPE himself lives on the faith that he is doing Gods work, earning him a spot in heaven, or wherever he thinks he's going.... There isn't anyone who ever lived, not matter how religious or pious, that knows for sure where they are going after they depart the earthly plane. Nobody.

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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

yeah, my avatar does have a mocking tone, but it's more of a response to the less tolerant aspect of religion that i see so much of between the two extremely similar religions of islam and christianity.  but if you are the kind of christian that sees everyone as equal- muslims, atheists, gays, blacks, etc. then the message certainly isn't directed to you.   

i guess you answered some questions to some extent but i was confused when you were talking about things you know such as demons and a better place and God's existence but then youdid a 180 and attributed it all to faith.  we may just have different definitions of the word "know."  


NOBODY knows for sure where they are going after they die, even the POPE himself lives on the faith that he is doing Gods work, earning him a spot in heaven, or wherever he thinks he's going.... There isn't anyone who ever lived, not matter how religious or pious, that knows for sure where they are going after they depart the earthly plane. Nobody.

 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 10:44 PM ET #90

So, how does one EARN a spot in heaven?

I thought it was all about faith and belief-

Which wordly deeds are most important?

Where does molesting (or aiding and abetting those who do) young boys fit into this scheme?


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So, how does one EARN a spot in heaven?

I thought it was all about faith and belief-

Which wordly deeds are most important?

Where does molesting (or aiding and abetting those who do) young boys fit into this scheme?


 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 10:57 PM ET #91

yeah i don't know about that one.  the catholic church is the biggest organized child molesting group in modern history and the pope facilitated it and covered it up.  how is a guy like that on the list?   are you going to tell me that a regular guy who just lives a normal, good life but has no use for religion is out while the guy who facilitated a huge child molestation scandal is in?  
don't take this as a mocking question.  i'd really like to know the answer to this: how does that make any sense?   
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yeah i don't know about that one.  the catholic church is the biggest organized child molesting group in modern history and the pope facilitated it and covered it up.  how is a guy like that on the list?   are you going to tell me that a regular guy who just lives a normal, good life but has no use for religion is out while the guy who facilitated a huge child molestation scandal is in?  
don't take this as a mocking question.  i'd really like to know the answer to this: how does that make any sense?   
 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 11:07 PM ET #92

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

yeah i don't know about that one.  the catholic church is the biggest organized child molesting group in modern history and the pope facilitated it and covered it up.  how is a guy like that on the list?   are you going to tell me that a regular guy who just lives a normal, good life but has no use for religion is out while the guy who facilitated a huge child molestation scandal is in?  
don't take this as a mocking question.  i'd really like to know the answer to this: how does that make any sense?   

LIke I said, nobody knows, the Pope or Pope's may be total frauds.  Some of them were most likely good God-fearing men, but some of them maybe not.  That goes with any preacher or so-called men or women of Faith.  

 Can a regular guy go to a better place after he dies? Well, the established religions tell us that it's not likely, but who really knows.  

This is a subject that every person must come to terms with by themselves. 

Nobody can advise you and nobody can make your mind up for you.  

This is the single most personal subject that anyone can possibly deal with in their lives.

Good Luck

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yeah i don't know about that one.  the catholic church is the biggest organized child molesting group in modern history and the pope facilitated it and covered it up.  how is a guy like that on the list?   are you going to tell me that a regular guy who just lives a normal, good life but has no use for religion is out while the guy who facilitated a huge child molestation scandal is in?  
don't take this as a mocking question.  i'd really like to know the answer to this: how does that make any sense?   

LIke I said, nobody knows, the Pope or Pope's may be total frauds.  Some of them were most likely good God-fearing men, but some of them maybe not.  That goes with any preacher or so-called men or women of Faith.  

 Can a regular guy go to a better place after he dies? Well, the established religions tell us that it's not likely, but who really knows.  

This is a subject that every person must come to terms with by themselves. 

Nobody can advise you and nobody can make your mind up for you.  

This is the single most personal subject that anyone can possibly deal with in their lives.

Good Luck

 
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There is only 1 way to Heaven and its not because you believe in God.  Satan believes in God, he has seen Him 1st hand, but he isnt going to Heaven.  The only way to Heaven is through Jesus. No worldly deeds make ANY difference in getting there.

My grandfather was Catholic and used to tell me that the Pope was the closest man to God on this earth.  I wish I had the knowledge that I have now back then because he was soooo wrong.  The Pope is just another sinner in the eyes of God.  Either he is saved and going to Heaven through Jesus or he is not.  He is just like everybody else on this earth who lives.  Simply a sinner.

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There is only 1 way to Heaven and its not because you believe in God.  Satan believes in God, he has seen Him 1st hand, but he isnt going to Heaven.  The only way to Heaven is through Jesus. No worldly deeds make ANY difference in getting there.

My grandfather was Catholic and used to tell me that the Pope was the closest man to God on this earth.  I wish I had the knowledge that I have now back then because he was soooo wrong.  The Pope is just another sinner in the eyes of God.  Either he is saved and going to Heaven through Jesus or he is not.  He is just like everybody else on this earth who lives.  Simply a sinner.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SUPEREAGLE43:

There is only 1 way to Heaven and its not because you believe in God.  Satan believes in God, he has seen Him 1st hand, but he isnt going to Heaven.  The only way to Heaven is through Jesus. No worldly deeds make ANY difference in getting there.

My grandfather was Catholic and used to tell me that the Pope was the closest man to God on this earth.  I wish I had the knowledge that I have now back then because he was soooo wrong.  The Pope is just another sinner in the eyes of God.  Either he is saved and going to Heaven through Jesus or he is not.  He is just like everybody else on this earth who lives.  Simply a sinner.

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There is only 1 way to Heaven and its not because you believe in God.  Satan believes in God, he has seen Him 1st hand, but he isnt going to Heaven.  The only way to Heaven is through Jesus. No worldly deeds make ANY difference in getting there.

My grandfather was Catholic and used to tell me that the Pope was the closest man to God on this earth.  I wish I had the knowledge that I have now back then because he was soooo wrong.  The Pope is just another sinner in the eyes of God.  Either he is saved and going to Heaven through Jesus or he is not.  He is just like everybody else on this earth who lives.  Simply a sinner.

 
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Posted: Jul. 17, 2010 - 11:56 PM ET #95

The Bible is a history book, not a story book.  For anyone to say otherwise simply means that you havent read it or you would know.

I recently invited Jesus to be my Lord and Savior after 36 years of life.  I actually had been going to a church for the past 10 years and thought I was Heaven bound.  I walked around every day of my life being a "good person" and thinking I had it made.  The church I went to was a dead Presbyterian Church.  I was then invited by a friend to another church that was "alive".  It was a surreal experience.  Over the next month I came to realize how lost I really was until I was broken down into a mild panic.  I knew then that I was hell bound and had an overwelming desire to "get right with God".  My life has not been the same since.  Does that mean that all is rosey? No, but now I know my purpose and the real meaning of life.  For anyone who hasnt experienced a personal relationship with Jesus, it is unfair for you to just throw out opinions without the knowledge to back them up.  Alot of the questions here that you think no one knows the answers to have answers.  You can know things, but not without the relationship with Christ.  I totally understand that this sounds all hokey and stuff and I also understand that it uncomprehendable by someone who hasnt excepted Jesus as his Savior.  Remember, I was just on the other side of the fence my whole life, but this is real and I hope and pray that everyone finds the truth as I have.

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The Bible is a history book, not a story book.  For anyone to say otherwise simply means that you havent read it or you would know.

I recently invited Jesus to be my Lord and Savior after 36 years of life.  I actually had been going to a church for the past 10 years and thought I was Heaven bound.  I walked around every day of my life being a "good person" and thinking I had it made.  The church I went to was a dead Presbyterian Church.  I was then invited by a friend to another church that was "alive".  It was a surreal experience.  Over the next month I came to realize how lost I really was until I was broken down into a mild panic.  I knew then that I was hell bound and had an overwelming desire to "get right with God".  My life has not been the same since.  Does that mean that all is rosey? No, but now I know my purpose and the real meaning of life.  For anyone who hasnt experienced a personal relationship with Jesus, it is unfair for you to just throw out opinions without the knowledge to back them up.  Alot of the questions here that you think no one knows the answers to have answers.  You can know things, but not without the relationship with Christ.  I totally understand that this sounds all hokey and stuff and I also understand that it uncomprehendable by someone who hasnt excepted Jesus as his Savior.  Remember, I was just on the other side of the fence my whole life, but this is real and I hope and pray that everyone finds the truth as I have.

 
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I feel the same,SuperE. I like to have a little fun with people though,because; like you,I KNOW that they have to truly believe it before they see it rather than see IT and FEEL it to believe it. People do this on THEIR time,and I'M OKAY with that. I think it's simply a Spiritual Evolution for Humans...but to tell some people is like insulting them as far as they're concerned.I think ALL this CRAZY MESS will turn out just fine in everyone's own END !  
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I feel the same,SuperE. I like to have a little fun with people though,because; like you,I KNOW that they have to truly believe it before they see it rather than see IT and FEEL it to believe it. People do this on THEIR time,and I'M OKAY with that. I think it's simply a Spiritual Evolution for Humans...but to tell some people is like insulting them as far as they're concerned.I think ALL this CRAZY MESS will turn out just fine in everyone's own END !  
 
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Everyone knows the story of the prodigal son, but I am here to tell you that there are MANY MANY more people wandering aimlessly through life like I was, thinking that they are ok.  Thinking that they are living a good life and doing good things for people, and yada yada.  They are in a happy comfort zone.  Satan loves that.  Those are the ones who will wander right off the cliff when they die without any effort from Satan.  It is scary to think that I could have sat in my previous church for that long, while living a "good" life with my family, yet would have gone to hell if I had died.  And thats exactly what would have happened to me had I not changed churches and experienced the Holy Spirit.  People, I am your everyday, average, good guy with a wife and kids.  I played all sports and have a college degree in Fitness Management.  Have been a police officer for 7 years and own a business.  I am not a weirdo religious fanatic. I have gambled, drank, cursed, strip clubbed and whatever else you can think of other than drugs. I did not set foot in a church from the age of 11 until 22.  I only started going at 22 because of my wife.  The point I am trying to make with all this info is that I am Ordinary Joe, not some wierd Bible thumper or a believer of hokey crap.  If anybody who reads this sees a reflection of themselves, ask yourself 1 question.  If I die tommorrow where will I go?  The Bible says that "you can know that you know that you know".  I had NO comprehension of what this meant until I invited Jesus into my life, but now I FULLY understand what it means and I am absolutley sure of where I am going. 
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Everyone knows the story of the prodigal son, but I am here to tell you that there are MANY MANY more people wandering aimlessly through life like I was, thinking that they are ok.  Thinking that they are living a good life and doing good things for people, and yada yada.  They are in a happy comfort zone.  Satan loves that.  Those are the ones who will wander right off the cliff when they die without any effort from Satan.  It is scary to think that I could have sat in my previous church for that long, while living a "good" life with my family, yet would have gone to hell if I had died.  And thats exactly what would have happened to me had I not changed churches and experienced the Holy Spirit.  People, I am your everyday, average, good guy with a wife and kids.  I played all sports and have a college degree in Fitness Management.  Have been a police officer for 7 years and own a business.  I am not a weirdo religious fanatic. I have gambled, drank, cursed, strip clubbed and whatever else you can think of other than drugs. I did not set foot in a church from the age of 11 until 22.  I only started going at 22 because of my wife.  The point I am trying to make with all this info is that I am Ordinary Joe, not some wierd Bible thumper or a believer of hokey crap.  If anybody who reads this sees a reflection of themselves, ask yourself 1 question.  If I die tommorrow where will I go?  The Bible says that "you can know that you know that you know".  I had NO comprehension of what this meant until I invited Jesus into my life, but now I FULLY understand what it means and I am absolutley sure of where I am going. 
 
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Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 12:31 AM ET #98

Quote Originally Posted by SUPEREAGLE43:

There is only 1 way to Heaven and its not because you believe in God.  Satan believes in God, he has seen Him 1st hand, but he isnt going to Heaven.  The only way to Heaven is through Jesus. No worldly deeds make ANY difference in getting there.

My grandfather was Catholic and used to tell me that the Pope was the closest man to God on this earth.  I wish I had the knowledge that I have now back then because he was soooo wrong.  The Pope is just another sinner in the eyes of God.  Either he is saved and going to Heaven through Jesus or he is not.  He is just like everybody else on this earth who lives.  Simply a sinner.

  We interupt this regularily scheduled episode of Teletubbies, to bring you this important and uplifting message of hope.

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There is only 1 way to Heaven and its not because you believe in God.  Satan believes in God, he has seen Him 1st hand, but he isnt going to Heaven.  The only way to Heaven is through Jesus. No worldly deeds make ANY difference in getting there.

My grandfather was Catholic and used to tell me that the Pope was the closest man to God on this earth.  I wish I had the knowledge that I have now back then because he was soooo wrong.  The Pope is just another sinner in the eyes of God.  Either he is saved and going to Heaven through Jesus or he is not.  He is just like everybody else on this earth who lives.  Simply a sinner.

  We interupt this regularily scheduled episode of Teletubbies, to bring you this important and uplifting message of hope.

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If God gave us Free Will (which I believe) how can there be such a thing as sin? Sin against what? It can't be Free Will sometimes...
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