eagle, you never answered my questions, i had ten very well thought out good questions, answer them, i'm going out to eat some indian food, i'll come back and read your replies
well,,,,,,,if you say so
i'll pull ten questions out my ass, then gotta go finish mowing
1. How much petroleum is left on Earth 2. How many more years until the Sun burns out? 3. How did the universe begin? 4. How did life on this planet begin? 5. When is the next ice age coming? 6. What is the maximum carrying capacity for human population on Earth? 7. How many total USDollars are in circulation as of 7/18/10? 8. How much physical gold is on this planet? 9. why did my hot pepper plants all fruit so early this year? 10. Is there a God?
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Quote Originally Posted by bsforsale:
eagle, you never answered my questions, i had ten very well thought out good questions, answer them, i'm going out to eat some indian food, i'll come back and read your replies
well,,,,,,,if you say so
i'll pull ten questions out my ass, then gotta go finish mowing
1. How much petroleum is left on Earth 2. How many more years until the Sun burns out? 3. How did the universe begin? 4. How did life on this planet begin? 5. When is the next ice age coming? 6. What is the maximum carrying capacity for human population on Earth? 7. How many total USDollars are in circulation as of 7/18/10? 8. How much physical gold is on this planet? 9. why did my hot pepper plants all fruit so early this year? 10. Is there a God?
Adam and Eve did populate the earth and, yes, through incest. God did not forbid this until much later(Leviticus 18 6-18). Adam and Eve were perfect genetically so therefore there was no deformed or retarded types to worry about in the early days.
so what your telling us is that if god didn't forbid incest,,,,eddie the eagle would be fucking his sister
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Quote Originally Posted by SUPEREAGLE43:
Adam and Eve did populate the earth and, yes, through incest. God did not forbid this until much later(Leviticus 18 6-18). Adam and Eve were perfect genetically so therefore there was no deformed or retarded types to worry about in the early days.
so what your telling us is that if god didn't forbid incest,,,,eddie the eagle would be fucking his sister
i knew the church supported pedophilia, wasn't aware they supported incest as well
you don't live in the south.
i'm not clear, does the christian god encourage or at least believe in incest or not? if the christian god did but doesn't now, what changed? incest is increst, right? and all jokes aside, why are incest and child molestation more prevalent in rural areas where churches are more prevalent? is all of this related?
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Quote Originally Posted by cacabware:
i knew the church supported pedophilia, wasn't aware they supported incest as well
you don't live in the south.
i'm not clear, does the christian god encourage or at least believe in incest or not? if the christian god did but doesn't now, what changed? incest is increst, right? and all jokes aside, why are incest and child molestation more prevalent in rural areas where churches are more prevalent? is all of this related?
as it stands today, medicine and modern science have little more appeal to me over prayer, but i don't subscribe to either. personal preference is again, logic and reason. AND rationale.
be easy, i just copied part of your poast and i confess i skipped around this thread a lot, but my question are, what is your issue with medicine and what is it based on?
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Quote Originally Posted by be easy:
as it stands today, medicine and modern science have little more appeal to me over prayer, but i don't subscribe to either. personal preference is again, logic and reason. AND rationale.
be easy, i just copied part of your poast and i confess i skipped around this thread a lot, but my question are, what is your issue with medicine and what is it based on?
Are you looking for facts and/or proof that there is a GOD?
You will not find your so call fact or proof in logical thinking. Because the existence of GOD has nothing to do with what you think it has to do with what is true. Look at Romans 1:20.
20 Since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Nature is our proof of the existence of GOD
How are we to believe this truth?
Look at Ephesians 2:8 and 9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
It is impossible for any one to believe in the existence of GOD apart from GOD giving you faith to believe. We are all born spiritually dead. We can not See or Hear the truth of GOD existence without faith.
My pray for every one that I come in contact with is that GOD’S grace will be granted to you. That HE will give you faith to believe and then your eyes will be open so you can see, and your ears will be open so that you may hear.
Until the grace of GOD is given you can not believe because you are spiritually dead
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Are you looking for facts and/or proof that there is a GOD?
You will not find your so call fact or proof in logical thinking. Because the existence of GOD has nothing to do with what you think it has to do with what is true. Look at Romans 1:20.
20 Since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Nature is our proof of the existence of GOD
How are we to believe this truth?
Look at Ephesians 2:8 and 9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
It is impossible for any one to believe in the existence of GOD apart from GOD giving you faith to believe. We are all born spiritually dead. We can not See or Hear the truth of GOD existence without faith.
My pray for every one that I come in contact with is that GOD’S grace will be granted to you. That HE will give you faith to believe and then your eyes will be open so you can see, and your ears will be open so that you may hear.
Until the grace of GOD is given you can not believe because you are spiritually dead
The Bible teaches that the earth is around 6000 years old. Some scientists teach that it is billions of years old. Some scientists belives that it is 6000 years old. The ones that lean to 6000 believe that the 2 methods of determining the earths age of billions are flawed. Ultimately the age cannot be proven either way. Both viewpoints rely on faith and assumptions. My faith is in the Bible.
Knew it...that carbon dating technology is bunk
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Quote Originally Posted by SUPEREAGLE43:
The Bible teaches that the earth is around 6000 years old. Some scientists teach that it is billions of years old. Some scientists belives that it is 6000 years old. The ones that lean to 6000 believe that the 2 methods of determining the earths age of billions are flawed. Ultimately the age cannot be proven either way. Both viewpoints rely on faith and assumptions. My faith is in the Bible.
Is it fact that it is more prevelent in rural areas or just stereotype?
that's a good question. i would say it's a fact in the atlanta area, which is the area i know, and which has a major city and many surrounding rural areas. atlanta would seem to be have similar characteristics to other metropolitan areas of that size. if atlanta is any indication of other areas, then i'd say it is a fact. if the atlanta area is more of a statistical anomaly, then it would be a fact in the atlanta area and an assumption as to other areas.
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Quote Originally Posted by SUPEREAGLE43:
Is it fact that it is more prevelent in rural areas or just stereotype?
that's a good question. i would say it's a fact in the atlanta area, which is the area i know, and which has a major city and many surrounding rural areas. atlanta would seem to be have similar characteristics to other metropolitan areas of that size. if atlanta is any indication of other areas, then i'd say it is a fact. if the atlanta area is more of a statistical anomaly, then it would be a fact in the atlanta area and an assumption as to other areas.
This is fun! To be continued later. Im going swimming. Pray for me while Im out guys! lol
i will pray for you to the water god/goddess of your choice. when praying and swimming, you need to specialize. that's why most religions are polytheistic. it's better to go with a specialist.
2020dr, do you suggest that any of the gods/goddesses in the link i provided are not real?
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Quote Originally Posted by SUPEREAGLE43:
This is fun! To be continued later. Im going swimming. Pray for me while Im out guys! lol
i will pray for you to the water god/goddess of your choice. when praying and swimming, you need to specialize. that's why most religions are polytheistic. it's better to go with a specialist.
2020dr, do you suggest that any of the gods/goddesses in the link i provided are not real?
i'll pull ten questions out my ass, then gotta go finish mowing
1. How much petroleum is left on Earth 2. How many more years until the Sun burns out? 3. How did the universe begin? 4. How did life on this planet begin? 5. When is the next ice age coming? 6. What is the maximum carrying capacity for human population on Earth? 7. How many total USDollars are in circulation as of 7/18/10? 8. How much physical gold is on this planet? 9. why did my hot pepper plants all fruit so early this year? 10. Is there a God?
Easy....God only knows. All bases covered
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Quote Originally Posted by be easy:
well,,,,,,,if you say so
i'll pull ten questions out my ass, then gotta go finish mowing
1. How much petroleum is left on Earth 2. How many more years until the Sun burns out? 3. How did the universe begin? 4. How did life on this planet begin? 5. When is the next ice age coming? 6. What is the maximum carrying capacity for human population on Earth? 7. How many total USDollars are in circulation as of 7/18/10? 8. How much physical gold is on this planet? 9. why did my hot pepper plants all fruit so early this year? 10. Is there a God?
be easy, i just copied part of your poast and i confess i skipped around this thread a lot, but my question are, what is your issue with medicine and what is it based on?
my discontent is two fold. we take a backwards approach to medicine (likely a function of drugs for profit). They make a drug, and then dole it out en masse as if that is practicing medicine and health. Nutrition is the key to health, and bypassing nutrition concerns and supplanting them with drugs is insanely unhealthy imo. That and i was really into reading placebo study works in my short stint in college, and was blown away by some of the results. Anecdotally, it reinforced my mind over matter personal beliefs as well.
Obviously there is plenty of great good that has come from modern medicine, i wouldn't want a priest or witch doctor to have installed a 12 inch metal plate with a bunch of screws through a spiral fracture that more or less severed my arm from my body). I draw my ire from all the bad, which suprisingly doesn't ever seem to get that much attention , and in my opinion 90+% of the crap that people in this country get in the form of a prescription is unnecessary, and not some modern marvel we were blessed with from science.
I think people were healthier when they treated themselves with coca plants, opiates and marijuana then with oxycontin, aderral and _________insert any psycotropic/mind control drug
the most prescribed drugs are for "Heartburn", High Cholesterol, Anemia, and depression/anxiety
most are functions of poor dieting and nutrition, and modern medicine 'cures' these problems by overlooking nutrition and instead opting for drugs and then more drugs
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
be easy, i just copied part of your poast and i confess i skipped around this thread a lot, but my question are, what is your issue with medicine and what is it based on?
my discontent is two fold. we take a backwards approach to medicine (likely a function of drugs for profit). They make a drug, and then dole it out en masse as if that is practicing medicine and health. Nutrition is the key to health, and bypassing nutrition concerns and supplanting them with drugs is insanely unhealthy imo. That and i was really into reading placebo study works in my short stint in college, and was blown away by some of the results. Anecdotally, it reinforced my mind over matter personal beliefs as well.
Obviously there is plenty of great good that has come from modern medicine, i wouldn't want a priest or witch doctor to have installed a 12 inch metal plate with a bunch of screws through a spiral fracture that more or less severed my arm from my body). I draw my ire from all the bad, which suprisingly doesn't ever seem to get that much attention , and in my opinion 90+% of the crap that people in this country get in the form of a prescription is unnecessary, and not some modern marvel we were blessed with from science.
I think people were healthier when they treated themselves with coca plants, opiates and marijuana then with oxycontin, aderral and _________insert any psycotropic/mind control drug
the most prescribed drugs are for "Heartburn", High Cholesterol, Anemia, and depression/anxiety
most are functions of poor dieting and nutrition, and modern medicine 'cures' these problems by overlooking nutrition and instead opting for drugs and then more drugs
my discontent is two fold. we take a backwards approach to medicine (likely a function of drugs for profit). They make a drug, and then dole it out en masse as if that is practicing medicine and health. Nutrition is the key to health, and bypassing nutrition concerns and supplanting them with drugs is insanely unhealthy imo. That and i was really into reading placebo study works in my short stint in college, and was blown away by some of the results. Anecdotally, it reinforced my mind over matter personal beliefs as well.
Obviously there is plenty of great good that has come from modern medicine, i wouldn't want a priest or witch doctor to have installed a 12 inch metal plate with a bunch of screws through a spiral fracture that more or less severed my arm from my body). I draw my ire from all the bad, which suprisingly doesn't ever seem to get that much attention , and in my opinion 90+% of the crap that people in this country get in the form of a prescription is unnecessary, and not some modern marvel we were blessed with from science.
I think people were healthier when they treated themselves with coca plants, opiates and marijuana then with oxycontin, aderral and _________insert any psycotropic/mind control drug
the most prescribed drugs are for "Heartburn", High Cholesterol, Anemia, and depression/anxiety
most are functions of poor dieting and nutrition, and modern medicine 'cures' these problems by overlooking nutrition and instead opting for drugs and then more drugs
I hope your arm and spirit are doing as well as can be expected.Sounds excruciating !
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Quote Originally Posted by be easy:
my discontent is two fold. we take a backwards approach to medicine (likely a function of drugs for profit). They make a drug, and then dole it out en masse as if that is practicing medicine and health. Nutrition is the key to health, and bypassing nutrition concerns and supplanting them with drugs is insanely unhealthy imo. That and i was really into reading placebo study works in my short stint in college, and was blown away by some of the results. Anecdotally, it reinforced my mind over matter personal beliefs as well.
Obviously there is plenty of great good that has come from modern medicine, i wouldn't want a priest or witch doctor to have installed a 12 inch metal plate with a bunch of screws through a spiral fracture that more or less severed my arm from my body). I draw my ire from all the bad, which suprisingly doesn't ever seem to get that much attention , and in my opinion 90+% of the crap that people in this country get in the form of a prescription is unnecessary, and not some modern marvel we were blessed with from science.
I think people were healthier when they treated themselves with coca plants, opiates and marijuana then with oxycontin, aderral and _________insert any psycotropic/mind control drug
the most prescribed drugs are for "Heartburn", High Cholesterol, Anemia, and depression/anxiety
most are functions of poor dieting and nutrition, and modern medicine 'cures' these problems by overlooking nutrition and instead opting for drugs and then more drugs
I hope your arm and spirit are doing as well as can be expected.Sounds excruciating !
How do you know right now,that you are "YOU" and not a machine exchanging information with itself,in some highly complex wetware Framework using carbon-based units based on DNA strands.How do you know you are anything else?
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How do you know right now,that you are "YOU" and not a machine exchanging information with itself,in some highly complex wetware Framework using carbon-based units based on DNA strands.How do you know you are anything else?
i agree that nutrition is the key. i also think we get a lot of misinformation from the government about what is healthy and what isn't. of course they have an agenda.
and don't get me started about the pharmaceutical industry.
as you get older, you unfortunately get more acquainted with our medical system. i've had a couple of people close to me get sick and go to doctors. one was a very healthy guy in his early 60's who just got sick very quickly and died within a couple of days. he was very rich so i assume he had the best medical care. but no one could say what was wrong with him, how to treat it and what caused it. the best answer we could get was a mosquito or something.
another one was a person of similar age who was active and seemingly healthy who just started feeling badly. they ran a shitload of tests and couldn't find anytying physically wrong. then they assumed it was mental and started prescribing all sorts of drugs, none of which did anything maybe make things worse. again, no one could say what was wrong, what caused it and what can be done about it. there's been no progress.
i know these are just two examples but it makes you wonder if our medical knowledge has progressed a whole lot. orthopedically, i think medicine has progressed a lot. i've fucked my knee up twice years ago and i can still do a lot of things. athletes come back from injuries quicker than ever. but in a lot of areas, these people are just clueless.
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i agree that nutrition is the key. i also think we get a lot of misinformation from the government about what is healthy and what isn't. of course they have an agenda.
and don't get me started about the pharmaceutical industry.
as you get older, you unfortunately get more acquainted with our medical system. i've had a couple of people close to me get sick and go to doctors. one was a very healthy guy in his early 60's who just got sick very quickly and died within a couple of days. he was very rich so i assume he had the best medical care. but no one could say what was wrong with him, how to treat it and what caused it. the best answer we could get was a mosquito or something.
another one was a person of similar age who was active and seemingly healthy who just started feeling badly. they ran a shitload of tests and couldn't find anytying physically wrong. then they assumed it was mental and started prescribing all sorts of drugs, none of which did anything maybe make things worse. again, no one could say what was wrong, what caused it and what can be done about it. there's been no progress.
i know these are just two examples but it makes you wonder if our medical knowledge has progressed a whole lot. orthopedically, i think medicine has progressed a lot. i've fucked my knee up twice years ago and i can still do a lot of things. athletes come back from injuries quicker than ever. but in a lot of areas, these people are just clueless.
i agree that nutrition is the key. i also think we get a lot of misinformation from the government about what is healthy and what isn't. of course they have an agenda.
and don't get me started about the pharmaceutical industry.
as you get older, you unfortunately get more acquainted with our medical system. i've had a couple of people close to me get sick and go to doctors. one was a very healthy guy in his early 60's who just got sick very quickly and died within a couple of days. he was very rich so i assume he had the best medical care. but no one could say what was wrong with him, how to treat it and what caused it. the best answer we could get was a mosquito or something.
another one was a person of similar age who was active and seemingly healthy who just started feeling badly. they ran a shitload of tests and couldn't find anytying physically wrong. then they assumed it was mental and started prescribing all sorts of drugs, none of which did anything maybe make things worse. again, no one could say what was wrong, what caused it and what can be done about it. there's been no progress.
i know these are just two examples but it makes you wonder if our medical knowledge has progressed a whole lot. orthopedically, i think medicine has progressed a lot. i've fucked my knee up twice years ago and i can still do a lot of things. athletes come back from injuries quicker than ever. but in a lot of areas, these people are just clueless.
Treat the symptom,not the disease. I heard that said once,and looks spot-on.(too much $ to be made,to give a cure)
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
i agree that nutrition is the key. i also think we get a lot of misinformation from the government about what is healthy and what isn't. of course they have an agenda.
and don't get me started about the pharmaceutical industry.
as you get older, you unfortunately get more acquainted with our medical system. i've had a couple of people close to me get sick and go to doctors. one was a very healthy guy in his early 60's who just got sick very quickly and died within a couple of days. he was very rich so i assume he had the best medical care. but no one could say what was wrong with him, how to treat it and what caused it. the best answer we could get was a mosquito or something.
another one was a person of similar age who was active and seemingly healthy who just started feeling badly. they ran a shitload of tests and couldn't find anytying physically wrong. then they assumed it was mental and started prescribing all sorts of drugs, none of which did anything maybe make things worse. again, no one could say what was wrong, what caused it and what can be done about it. there's been no progress.
i know these are just two examples but it makes you wonder if our medical knowledge has progressed a whole lot. orthopedically, i think medicine has progressed a lot. i've fucked my knee up twice years ago and i can still do a lot of things. athletes come back from injuries quicker than ever. but in a lot of areas, these people are just clueless.
Treat the symptom,not the disease. I heard that said once,and looks spot-on.(too much $ to be made,to give a cure)
i agree that nutrition is the key. i also think we get a lot of misinformation from the government about what is healthy and what isn't. of course they have an agenda.
and don't get me started about the pharmaceutical industry.
as you get older, you unfortunately get more acquainted with our medical system. i've had a couple of people close to me get sick and go to doctors. one was a very healthy guy in his early 60's who just got sick very quickly and died within a couple of days. he was very rich so i assume he had the best medical care. but no one could say what was wrong with him, how to treat it and what caused it. the best answer we could get was a mosquito or something.
another one was a person of similar age who was active and seemingly healthy who just started feeling badly. they ran a shitload of tests and couldn't find anytying physically wrong. then they assumed it was mental and started prescribing all sorts of drugs, none of which did anything maybe make things worse. again, no one could say what was wrong, what caused it and what can be done about it. there's been no progress.
i know these are just two examples but it makes you wonder if our medical knowledge has progressed a whole lot. orthopedically, i think medicine has progressed a lot. i've fucked my knee up twice years ago and i can still do a lot of things. athletes come back from injuries quicker than ever. but in a lot of areas, these people are just clueless.
i also just assume that, over time, you get old and then you die. How do you's that subscribe to Scientism cope with that?
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
i agree that nutrition is the key. i also think we get a lot of misinformation from the government about what is healthy and what isn't. of course they have an agenda.
and don't get me started about the pharmaceutical industry.
as you get older, you unfortunately get more acquainted with our medical system. i've had a couple of people close to me get sick and go to doctors. one was a very healthy guy in his early 60's who just got sick very quickly and died within a couple of days. he was very rich so i assume he had the best medical care. but no one could say what was wrong with him, how to treat it and what caused it. the best answer we could get was a mosquito or something.
another one was a person of similar age who was active and seemingly healthy who just started feeling badly. they ran a shitload of tests and couldn't find anytying physically wrong. then they assumed it was mental and started prescribing all sorts of drugs, none of which did anything maybe make things worse. again, no one could say what was wrong, what caused it and what can be done about it. there's been no progress.
i know these are just two examples but it makes you wonder if our medical knowledge has progressed a whole lot. orthopedically, i think medicine has progressed a lot. i've fucked my knee up twice years ago and i can still do a lot of things. athletes come back from injuries quicker than ever. but in a lot of areas, these people are just clueless.
i also just assume that, over time, you get old and then you die. How do you's that subscribe to Scientism cope with that?
Are you looking for facts and/or proof that there is a GOD?
You will not find your so call fact or proof in logical thinking. Because the existence of GOD has nothing to do with what you think it has to do with what is true. Look at Romans 1:20.
Why should we believe the bible? Why not the Quran?
20 Since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Nature is our proof of the existence of GOD
How are we to believe this truth?
Look at Ephesians 2:8 and 9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
It is impossible for any one to believe in the existence of GOD apart from GOD giving you faith to believe. We are all born spiritually dead. We can not See or Hear the truth of GOD existence without faith.
My pray for every one that I come in contact with is that GOD’S grace will be granted to you. That HE will give you faith to believe and then your eyes will be open so you can see, and your ears will be open so that you may hear.
Until the grace of GOD is given you can not believe because you are spiritually dead
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Quote Originally Posted by 2020dr:
Are you looking for facts and/or proof that there is a GOD?
You will not find your so call fact or proof in logical thinking. Because the existence of GOD has nothing to do with what you think it has to do with what is true. Look at Romans 1:20.
Why should we believe the bible? Why not the Quran?
20 Since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
Nature is our proof of the existence of GOD
How are we to believe this truth?
Look at Ephesians 2:8 and 9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—9 not by works, so that no one can boast.
It is impossible for any one to believe in the existence of GOD apart from GOD giving you faith to believe. We are all born spiritually dead. We can not See or Hear the truth of GOD existence without faith.
My pray for every one that I come in contact with is that GOD’S grace will be granted to you. That HE will give you faith to believe and then your eyes will be open so you can see, and your ears will be open so that you may hear.
Until the grace of GOD is given you can not believe because you are spiritually dead
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, and in my opinion 90+% of the crap that people in this country get in the form of a prescription is unnecessary, and not some modern marvel we were blessed with from science. 
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