Im bored. No sports for me to bet on. How about a religion thread?

Nope, you misinterpreted it.

Look at my example regarding murder and tribes and answer it from there....

U like everyone here has misinterpeted what i have said...

I am not saying if you need to steal or murder.

I am asking, is it WRONG to steal or murder?

Ahhh, now lets look at govts.

So if the govt says it is ok to do something is it ok then?

uhm, Stalin and Hitler? They were the governing bodies at the time, they were murdering millions who disagreed with them, cause they were the govt it is ok then what they were doing........

EVERYONE.

ALL what i am saying is that if there is no God, then morals become subjective, each man decides what is right or wrong. Morals are subjective.

If you partner or girlfriend wants to go and F### guys behind your back, you might think it is wrong, but she might think it is ok.

It is simply your opinion against hers.. That is all i am saying.

If you want to look at other things such as stealing, murder and rape, if you can get away with it, then there is NO reason to not do it if you want to do it, cause after all, in the eyes of death, whether you lived like a saint or a mass murderer, we are all equal.

OH YES!!!

sad but true. 

The gangs all here!!!

Here's one for the nutjobs, straight from the book written by your god - the holy book!!!

Seems that rape is OK, but IF you get caught (and who is stupid enough to get caught?!?!?!), 50 schekels should do the trick!!  Who was the moron above talking about morality imposed by God?

Deuteronomy 22:28-29

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Some people think they are there own God.

Lets see when they are on there death bed

Or one of my favorites, that god of morality talking again about slavery this time (and a little bit of mysoginy and rape thrown in for a side dish!!!) - now this is some god of morality!!

Exodus 21:7-11

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. 

There I fixed it for you buddy old pal.  So are you going to accept my friends request, Jesus could always use another homeboy.

How about some new testament woman hating for those nutjubs ready to tell me that the old testament doesnt count - here it is - straight from the new testament!!!

I praise you for being faithful in remembering me. I also praise you for staying true to all my teachings, just as I gave them to you. Now I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ. The head of the woman is the man. And the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered brings shame on his head. 5 And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered brings shame on her head. It is just as if her head were shaved. What if a woman does not cover her head? She should have her hair cut off. But it is shameful for her to cut her hair or shave it off. So she should cover her head. A man should not cover his head. He is the likeness and glory of God. But the woman is the glory of the man. 8 The man did not come from the woman. The woman came from the man. Also, the man was not created for the woman. The woman was created for the man. 10 That's why a woman should have her head covered. It shows that she is under authority. She should also cover her head because of the angels.

Isnt it convenient that you can dismiss killing, raping, slavery, and woman hating in your bible (written by your god) as "out of context".

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Exactly.

Why dont you pray to the boogeyman and see if he will advise you on how to debate his word written in your bible.  How could god make such a mistake?  How could you cherry pick the book you base your life on, only choosing the things you like and discounting everything else?

Maybe god will answer you, if he is not too busy helping the victims of the disasters he allows to happen, or curing the diseases that infect under his watch in the first place.

The funny thing is that I have read your bible several times, and know it better than all of you nutjubs put together.

Have you read your bible?   I doubt it.  Im sure you have heard the things your church wants you to hear, but have you actually tried to read the whole book?  The stupidity and inconsistency will boggle your mind.  Wouldnt you expect some literary masterpiece if god wrote it?  Why would there be a single mistake if god wrote it?

Dopes.

Reading the bible in todays social society cannot be done.

Furthermore, these are Gods commands.

Who are you or anyone on this earth to question what God does?

Paul was probably being bombarded by demon possessed fools such as your self. 

Someone tell me how god wrote the following, and is the god you call a moralist, and how you worship a god that wrote this horsecrap:

Deuteronomy  22:20-21

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house.  Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.