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    BMA
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 2:59 PM ET #51

    the capability to listen in on every phone call, e-mail, fax and text .


     The entire English-speaking world is covered by a massive surveillance system which sifts through the mind-bogglingly large movements of data and communications every day.



    The largest computers in the world, stationed at the headquarters of inter-connected agencies such as the NSA, GCHQ (in the UK), DSD (in Australia, CSE (in Canada) and the GCSB (in New Zealand), listen in to just about everything. Their remit: anti-terrorism, external and internal threats, and sometimes they operate to counter threats to the economies of these countries
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    the capability to listen in on every phone call, e-mail, fax and text .


     The entire English-speaking world is covered by a massive surveillance system which sifts through the mind-bogglingly large movements of data and communications every day.



    The largest computers in the world, stationed at the headquarters of inter-connected agencies such as the NSA, GCHQ (in the UK), DSD (in Australia, CSE (in Canada) and the GCSB (in New Zealand), listen in to just about everything. Their remit: anti-terrorism, external and internal threats, and sometimes they operate to counter threats to the economies of these countries
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 3:00 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by BMA:

    the capability to listen in on every phone call, e-mail, fax and text .


     The entire English-speaking world is covered by a massive surveillance system which sifts through the mind-bogglingly large movements of data and communications every day.



    The largest computers in the world, stationed at the headquarters of inter-connected agencies such as the NSA, GCHQ (in the UK), DSD (in Australia, CSE (in Canada) and the GCSB (in New Zealand), listen in to just about everything. Their remit: anti-terrorism, external and internal threats, and sometimes they operate to counter threats to the economies of these countries




    I would also presume Russia and China had a credible capability .
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMA:

    the capability to listen in on every phone call, e-mail, fax and text .


     The entire English-speaking world is covered by a massive surveillance system which sifts through the mind-bogglingly large movements of data and communications every day.



    The largest computers in the world, stationed at the headquarters of inter-connected agencies such as the NSA, GCHQ (in the UK), DSD (in Australia, CSE (in Canada) and the GCSB (in New Zealand), listen in to just about everything. Their remit: anti-terrorism, external and internal threats, and sometimes they operate to counter threats to the economies of these countries




    I would also presume Russia and China had a credible capability .
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 3:03 PM ET #53

    There is so much evidence in the 9/11 conspiracy that it is literally mind boggling.

    Like sliksticks said all you need to know is WTC #7, and start from there.

    Of course there will be disinfo, and "fake" patriots like BMA, but at the end of the day it is not just your right, but your responsiblity to understand all the shady questions that cannot be answered from that day.
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    There is so much evidence in the 9/11 conspiracy that it is literally mind boggling.

    Like sliksticks said all you need to know is WTC #7, and start from there.

    Of course there will be disinfo, and "fake" patriots like BMA, but at the end of the day it is not just your right, but your responsiblity to understand all the shady questions that cannot be answered from that day.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 3:04 PM ET #54

    Halliburton is the world's second largest oilfield services corporation

    "Cheney retired from the company during the 2000 U.S. presidential election campaign with a severance package
    worth $36 million.As of 2004, he had received $398,548 in deferred compensation from Halliburton while Vice President.
    Cheney was chairman and CEO of Halliburton Company from 1995 to 2000 and has received stock options from Halliburton."

    In the run-up to the Iraq war, Halliburton was awarded a $7 billion contract for which 'unusually' only Halliburton
    was allowed to bid

    The Federal Contractor Misconduct Database details 10 instances of misconduct since 1995 under which Halliburton has agreed
    to pay settlements of $791 million
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    Halliburton is the world's second largest oilfield services corporation

    "Cheney retired from the company during the 2000 U.S. presidential election campaign with a severance package
    worth $36 million.As of 2004, he had received $398,548 in deferred compensation from Halliburton while Vice President.
    Cheney was chairman and CEO of Halliburton Company from 1995 to 2000 and has received stock options from Halliburton."

    In the run-up to the Iraq war, Halliburton was awarded a $7 billion contract for which 'unusually' only Halliburton
    was allowed to bid

    The Federal Contractor Misconduct Database details 10 instances of misconduct since 1995 under which Halliburton has agreed
    to pay settlements of $791 million
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 3:05 PM ET #55

    On September 19, 2001, CBS reported:

    'Sources tell CBS News that the afternoon before the attack, alarm bells were sounding over unusual trading in the U.S.
     stock options market. An extraordinary number of trades were betting that American Airlines stock price would fall.The trades
    are called "puts" and they involved at least 450,000 shares of American. But what raised the red flag is more than 80 percent
     of the orders were "puts", far outnumbering "call" options, those betting the stock would rise.Sources say they have never
     seen that kind of imbalance before, reports CBS News Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. Normally the numbers are fairly even.
    After the terrorist attacks, American Airline stock price did fall obviously by 39 percent, and according to sources,
    that translated into well over $5 million total profit for the person or persons who bet the stock would fall.'


    "A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts
    on September 6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on September 10."

    -Footnote 130, Chapter 5, 9/11 Commission Report


    David Callahan - executive editor of SmartCEO -
    submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the SEC regarding the pre-9/11 put options.

    The SEC responded: (Securities and Exchange commission"

        "We have been advised that the potentially responsive records have been destroyed."
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    On September 19, 2001, CBS reported:

    'Sources tell CBS News that the afternoon before the attack, alarm bells were sounding over unusual trading in the U.S.
     stock options market. An extraordinary number of trades were betting that American Airlines stock price would fall.The trades
    are called "puts" and they involved at least 450,000 shares of American. But what raised the red flag is more than 80 percent
     of the orders were "puts", far outnumbering "call" options, those betting the stock would rise.Sources say they have never
     seen that kind of imbalance before, reports CBS News Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. Normally the numbers are fairly even.
    After the terrorist attacks, American Airline stock price did fall obviously by 39 percent, and according to sources,
    that translated into well over $5 million total profit for the person or persons who bet the stock would fall.'


    "A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts
    on September 6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on September 10."

    -Footnote 130, Chapter 5, 9/11 Commission Report


    David Callahan - executive editor of SmartCEO -
    submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the SEC regarding the pre-9/11 put options.

    The SEC responded: (Securities and Exchange commission"

        "We have been advised that the potentially responsive records have been destroyed."
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 3:05 PM ET #56

    Sept. 10/2001 Rummy announces 2.3 Trillion military dollars "lost"
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    Sept. 10/2001 Rummy announces 2.3 Trillion military dollars "lost"
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 3:43 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by slikstiks99:



    So how did the center column pop then, and the building fall into its own imprint  for that matter. Did some debris somehow demolish the center column of that building? The video speaks for itself, forget your "research". The video is all the research you need. Research can be made to say whatever you want. The video speaks volumes.


    Hold on, this statement is so absolutely ridiculous I have to say something about it. Maybe someone already addressed it on page 1 or 2 or something... but RESEARCH can be made to say whatever you want, but VIDEOS speak volumes?

    Sometimes I wonder how people can let themselves be so willingly manipulated by videos... and then I see comments like this and shake my head.
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    So how did the center column pop then, and the building fall into its own imprint  for that matter. Did some debris somehow demolish the center column of that building? The video speaks for itself, forget your "research". The video is all the research you need. Research can be made to say whatever you want. The video speaks volumes.


    Hold on, this statement is so absolutely ridiculous I have to say something about it. Maybe someone already addressed it on page 1 or 2 or something... but RESEARCH can be made to say whatever you want, but VIDEOS speak volumes?

    Sometimes I wonder how people can let themselves be so willingly manipulated by videos... and then I see comments like this and shake my head.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 3:58 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman_130:

    On September 19, 2001, CBS reported:

    'Sources tell CBS News that the afternoon before the attack, alarm bells were sounding over unusual trading in the U.S.
     stock options market. An extraordinary number of trades were betting that American Airlines stock price would fall.The trades
    are called "puts" and they involved at least 450,000 shares of American. But what raised the red flag is more than 80 percent
     of the orders were "puts", far outnumbering "call" options, those betting the stock would rise.Sources say they have never
     seen that kind of imbalance before, reports CBS News Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. Normally the numbers are fairly even.
    After the terrorist attacks, American Airline stock price did fall obviously by 39 percent, and according to sources,
    that translated into well over $5 million total profit for the person or persons who bet the stock would fall.'


    "A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts
    on September 6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on September 10."

    -Footnote 130, Chapter 5, 9/11 Commission Report


    David Callahan - executive editor of SmartCEO -
    submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the SEC regarding the pre-9/11 put options.

    The SEC responded: (Securities and Exchange commission"

        "We have been advised that the potentially responsive records have been destroyed."

    If you actually knew what this meant, you would realize that you just made a fool out of yourself.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman_130:

    On September 19, 2001, CBS reported:

    'Sources tell CBS News that the afternoon before the attack, alarm bells were sounding over unusual trading in the U.S.
     stock options market. An extraordinary number of trades were betting that American Airlines stock price would fall.The trades
    are called "puts" and they involved at least 450,000 shares of American. But what raised the red flag is more than 80 percent
     of the orders were "puts", far outnumbering "call" options, those betting the stock would rise.Sources say they have never
     seen that kind of imbalance before, reports CBS News Correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. Normally the numbers are fairly even.
    After the terrorist attacks, American Airline stock price did fall obviously by 39 percent, and according to sources,
    that translated into well over $5 million total profit for the person or persons who bet the stock would fall.'


    "A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts
    on September 6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on September 10."

    -Footnote 130, Chapter 5, 9/11 Commission Report


    David Callahan - executive editor of SmartCEO -
    submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the SEC regarding the pre-9/11 put options.

    The SEC responded: (Securities and Exchange commission"

        "We have been advised that the potentially responsive records have been destroyed."

    If you actually knew what this meant, you would realize that you just made a fool out of yourself.  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 4:02 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by BMA:



    it is not possible to keep secrets

    In his book, Loving God, former presidential assistant Charles Colson, in writing about Watergate, said, "With the most powerful office in the world at stake, a small band of hand-picked loyalists [of President Richard Nixon] ... could not hold a conspiracy together for more than two weeks.”

    That's it.  When it comes to day to day operations, the US Government can't grab their ass with both hands.  But when it comes to conspiracies, no one executes them better.  
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    it is not possible to keep secrets

    In his book, Loving God, former presidential assistant Charles Colson, in writing about Watergate, said, "With the most powerful office in the world at stake, a small band of hand-picked loyalists [of President Richard Nixon] ... could not hold a conspiracy together for more than two weeks.”

    That's it.  When it comes to day to day operations, the US Government can't grab their ass with both hands.  But when it comes to conspiracies, no one executes them better.  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 4:21 PM ET #60

    This “war” is illegal because there has never been a declaration of war.
    The war on terror is actually an excuse for colonialism and money.
    Without 911 no one would be in favor of the Patriot act.

    Abraham Lincoln on the war on terrorism and the patriot act…

    Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure.
    Abraham Lincoln

    America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
    Abraham Lincoln

    The CIA gave Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden $3 BILLION dollars.
    Israelis were caught on 9/11with a Truckload of Explosives under George Washington Bridge.
    The 911 hijackers were of Saudi Arabian decent.
    The two biggest Middle Eastern allies are Israel and Saudi Arabia.
    Without 911 they couldn’t have gone to war with Iraq and Afghanistan.
    There was never any evidence at all to go to war with Iraq, period.
    The war in Iraq was about money, oil and for revenge for saddam threatening daddy.
    Billions is government contracts and to set up a base for a war with Iran.
    The US has a base in Iraq, Afghanistan, and guess which country is between them? Iran!
    It’s about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs and a platform for war with Iran.
    War is a multi-billion dollar business.
    I don’t hate America or our troops, you do. I don’t want moms to feel what it feels like for their kids to die for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs and a platform for war with Iran.
    Why people are mad at 911 conspiracy theorists?
    I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a truth seeker.
    They should be angry with our government for using Americans and young kids as pawns for colonialism, wealth, and power.

    Don’t question civilian people, question the government.

    Eisenhower Farewell Address -- Warning Us of the Military Industrial Complex
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUXtyIQjubU

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    This “war” is illegal because there has never been a declaration of war.
    The war on terror is actually an excuse for colonialism and money.
    Without 911 no one would be in favor of the Patriot act.

    Abraham Lincoln on the war on terrorism and the patriot act…

    Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose - and you allow him to make war at pleasure.
    Abraham Lincoln

    America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
    Abraham Lincoln

    The CIA gave Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden $3 BILLION dollars.
    Israelis were caught on 9/11with a Truckload of Explosives under George Washington Bridge.
    The 911 hijackers were of Saudi Arabian decent.
    The two biggest Middle Eastern allies are Israel and Saudi Arabia.
    Without 911 they couldn’t have gone to war with Iraq and Afghanistan.
    There was never any evidence at all to go to war with Iraq, period.
    The war in Iraq was about money, oil and for revenge for saddam threatening daddy.
    Billions is government contracts and to set up a base for a war with Iran.
    The US has a base in Iraq, Afghanistan, and guess which country is between them? Iran!
    It’s about colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs and a platform for war with Iran.
    War is a multi-billion dollar business.
    I don’t hate America or our troops, you do. I don’t want moms to feel what it feels like for their kids to die for colonialism, money, oil, lithium, minerals, industrialism, drugs and a platform for war with Iran.
    Why people are mad at 911 conspiracy theorists?
    I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm a truth seeker.
    They should be angry with our government for using Americans and young kids as pawns for colonialism, wealth, and power.

    Don’t question civilian people, question the government.

    Eisenhower Farewell Address -- Warning Us of the Military Industrial Complex
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    Bush admin. couldn't even keep their lame revenge against Valarie Plame and Joe Wilson secret, but they pulled 9/11 off without a hitch. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman_130:

    Sept. 10/2001 Rummy announces 2.3 Trillion military dollars "lost"

    Nice try, but if you actually do the research, you'll realize that context DOES matter.

    Rummy was referring to the fact that that outdated INFRASTRUCTURE and financial systems did not allow them to track it effectively. 

    Look it up.  It's all there for you if you really want to know the truth.

    And there's another important point you're not being told. The language used in these claims, that Rumsfeld made an "admission" to or "announced" the missing $2.3 trllion on 9/10, along with the claim that the story disappeared as a result of the attacks, is designed to make you think that this information was only made public knowledge on September 10th. And that is utterly false. The report that uncovered the trillions appeared at the end of February 2000, before Bush had even been elected, and Rumsfeld and others had spoken about this before, on more than one occasion, and for months before the attacks:
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    Sept. 10/2001 Rummy announces 2.3 Trillion military dollars "lost"

    Nice try, but if you actually do the research, you'll realize that context DOES matter.

    Rummy was referring to the fact that that outdated INFRASTRUCTURE and financial systems did not allow them to track it effectively. 

    Look it up.  It's all there for you if you really want to know the truth.

    And there's another important point you're not being told. The language used in these claims, that Rumsfeld made an "admission" to or "announced" the missing $2.3 trllion on 9/10, along with the claim that the story disappeared as a result of the attacks, is designed to make you think that this information was only made public knowledge on September 10th. And that is utterly false. The report that uncovered the trillions appeared at the end of February 2000, before Bush had even been elected, and Rumsfeld and others had spoken about this before, on more than one occasion, and for months before the attacks:
     
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    The United States has been at war for 200+ years!

    The US did pull it off and get away with it but not without a hitch.

    If they did get away with it without a hitch, the evidence I used wouldn’t be available for people to see.

    The truth is laid out everywhere but only open-minded people can see it.

    I told my angry ancient dad this and he told me "let me live in my fantasy world, I don’t want to know the truth because it’s more peaceful living in a fantasy world and the truth causes my blood pressure to rise and I don’t want to know. It’s easier to live in denial that knowing the truth."

    People are sheep and choose not to care or listen because it goes against everything they were brainwashed to believe and people are scared of the truth so they choose to live in denial because it feels better that way.

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    The United States has been at war for 200+ years!

    The US did pull it off and get away with it but not without a hitch.

    If they did get away with it without a hitch, the evidence I used wouldn’t be available for people to see.

    The truth is laid out everywhere but only open-minded people can see it.

    I told my angry ancient dad this and he told me "let me live in my fantasy world, I don’t want to know the truth because it’s more peaceful living in a fantasy world and the truth causes my blood pressure to rise and I don’t want to know. It’s easier to live in denial that knowing the truth."

    People are sheep and choose not to care or listen because it goes against everything they were brainwashed to believe and people are scared of the truth so they choose to live in denial because it feels better that way.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    Bush admin. couldn't even keep their lame revenge against Valarie Plame and Joe Wilson secret, but they pulled 9/11 off without a hitch. 

     



    they killed saddam...mission accomplished...

    US taking over the whole middle east.    


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    Bush admin. couldn't even keep their lame revenge against Valarie Plame and Joe Wilson secret, but they pulled 9/11 off without a hitch. 

     



    they killed saddam...mission accomplished...

    US taking over the whole middle east.    


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    The United States has been at war for 200+ years!

    The US did pull it off and get away with it but not without a hitch.

    If they did get away with it without a hitch, the evidence I used wouldn’t be available for people to see.

    The truth is laid out everywhere but only open-minded people can see it.

    I told my angry ancient dad this and he told me "let me live in my fantasy world, I don’t want to know the truth because it’s more peaceful living in a fantasy world and the truth causes my blood pressure to rise and I don’t want to know. It’s easier to live in denial that knowing the truth."

    People are sheep and choose not to care or listen because it goes against everything they were brainwashed to believe and people are scared of the truth so they choose to live in denial because it feels better that way.


    This one is absolutely my favorite.  

    And this isn't half bad either.  If they did get away with it without a hitch, the evidence I used wouldn’t be available for people to see.

    He has all the evidence but no one will listen to him.  It's kind of like getting a call from a "source" with a sure winner, but not really being able to reveal who the source is.  



    All this and STILL no answer as to why there are no pictures of molten or red hot steel in the "molten and red hot steel" youtube video.  Nor is there an answer as to why eyewitness testimony of firefighters is the gospel when it comes to molten and red hot steel yet it is "meaningless" when it comes to the WTC 7.  

    C'mon, pot smoker, humor me.  Why are the firefighters deemed credible in one situation, but "meaningless" in another.  Wait.....I got it......the government only got to SOME of the firefighters.  Right.......  
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    The United States has been at war for 200+ years!

    The US did pull it off and get away with it but not without a hitch.

    If they did get away with it without a hitch, the evidence I used wouldn’t be available for people to see.

    The truth is laid out everywhere but only open-minded people can see it.

    I told my angry ancient dad this and he told me "let me live in my fantasy world, I don’t want to know the truth because it’s more peaceful living in a fantasy world and the truth causes my blood pressure to rise and I don’t want to know. It’s easier to live in denial that knowing the truth."

    People are sheep and choose not to care or listen because it goes against everything they were brainwashed to believe and people are scared of the truth so they choose to live in denial because it feels better that way.


    This one is absolutely my favorite.  

    And this isn't half bad either.  If they did get away with it without a hitch, the evidence I used wouldn’t be available for people to see.

    He has all the evidence but no one will listen to him.  It's kind of like getting a call from a "source" with a sure winner, but not really being able to reveal who the source is.  



    All this and STILL no answer as to why there are no pictures of molten or red hot steel in the "molten and red hot steel" youtube video.  Nor is there an answer as to why eyewitness testimony of firefighters is the gospel when it comes to molten and red hot steel yet it is "meaningless" when it comes to the WTC 7.  

    C'mon, pot smoker, humor me.  Why are the firefighters deemed credible in one situation, but "meaningless" in another.  Wait.....I got it......the government only got to SOME of the firefighters.  Right.......  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PokinSmot:




    they killed saddam...mission accomplished...

    US taking over the whole middle east.    



    They lie to us all the time (WMD's?  Yeah, right).  You're just confused as to what they are lying to us about.  They don't need to go with the big ones because we gobble up the small ones like a bunch of hungry morons.  

    Remember, if you didn't support the war, you were not patriotic. Remember that one? A real gem for sure.  


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    they killed saddam...mission accomplished...

    US taking over the whole middle east.    



    They lie to us all the time (WMD's?  Yeah, right).  You're just confused as to what they are lying to us about.  They don't need to go with the big ones because we gobble up the small ones like a bunch of hungry morons.  

    Remember, if you didn't support the war, you were not patriotic. Remember that one? A real gem for sure.  


     
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    steam

    It's not molten and red hot steel, but it is.........well........steam.

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    It's not molten and red hot steel, but it is.........well........steam.

     
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    HutchEmAll – If I did reveal the source would you listen anyway?

    You have to let patriotism go and let go of the idea that the US government is righteous. You have to let go of the idea that the US government is not capable of committing mass genocide. You have to let go of everything the media tells you. You have to let go of all of the things that you were taught to believe in school.

    I don’t believe you would listen to whatever I post because in order for you to see or understand it, you have to let go of everything you were taught to believe in. Unless you are willing to see the truth, there is no amount of evidence I can show you to change your mind.

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    HutchEmAll – If I did reveal the source would you listen anyway?

    You have to let patriotism go and let go of the idea that the US government is righteous. You have to let go of the idea that the US government is not capable of committing mass genocide. You have to let go of everything the media tells you. You have to let go of all of the things that you were taught to believe in school.

    I don’t believe you would listen to whatever I post because in order for you to see or understand it, you have to let go of everything you were taught to believe in. Unless you are willing to see the truth, there is no amount of evidence I can show you to change your mind.

     
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    who's to say there is or isn't a video? and if there is, i wouldn't be surprised if it was confiscated and/or censored. 

    how am i confused as to what they are lying to us about? a lie is a lie, therefore should not be taken seriously esp if the info is coming from the same source. they didn't go in with the big ones? they didn't have to because they had everyone believing saddam was also behind 9/11 and had wmd's remember? lol

    in a court of law, eyewitness testimony usually seals the deal, so what makes you or i know more than them, none of us were actually there so what do we have to go on? you either take the media/gov't telling you or the eyewitnesses accounts of events.

    how can anyone defend the integrity of the same govt who illegally supplies weapons to drug cartels and other countries. unless you believe this doesn't happen either and it's just another conspiracy.


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    who's to say there is or isn't a video? and if there is, i wouldn't be surprised if it was confiscated and/or censored. 

    how am i confused as to what they are lying to us about? a lie is a lie, therefore should not be taken seriously esp if the info is coming from the same source. they didn't go in with the big ones? they didn't have to because they had everyone believing saddam was also behind 9/11 and had wmd's remember? lol

    in a court of law, eyewitness testimony usually seals the deal, so what makes you or i know more than them, none of us were actually there so what do we have to go on? you either take the media/gov't telling you or the eyewitnesses accounts of events.

    how can anyone defend the integrity of the same govt who illegally supplies weapons to drug cartels and other countries. unless you believe this doesn't happen either and it's just another conspiracy.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2012 - 8:02 PM ET #70

    anyhow....i don't let things out of my control consume me...everyone lives in their separate bubble...

    real world news flash! in honest journalism fashion....


    i just got a new R11s as a gift and i cant wait to smack a few



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    anyhow....i don't let things out of my control consume me...everyone lives in their separate bubble...

    real world news flash! in honest journalism fashion....


    i just got a new R11s as a gift and i cant wait to smack a few



     
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    type 1 contrustion does not fall like WTC7 did
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    *construction
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    HutchEmAll – If I did reveal the source would you listen anyway?

    You have to let patriotism go and let go of the idea that the US government is righteous. You have to let go of the idea that the US government is not capable of committing mass genocide. You have to let go of everything the media tells you. You have to let go of all of the things that you were taught to believe in school.

    I don’t believe you would listen to whatever I post because in order for you to see or understand it, you have to let go of everything you were taught to believe in. Unless you are willing to see the truth, there is no amount of evidence I can show you to change your mind.





    Excellent post & very true.........
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    HutchEmAll – If I did reveal the source would you listen anyway?

    You have to let patriotism go and let go of the idea that the US government is righteous. You have to let go of the idea that the US government is not capable of committing mass genocide. You have to let go of everything the media tells you. You have to let go of all of the things that you were taught to believe in school.

    I don’t believe you would listen to whatever I post because in order for you to see or understand it, you have to let go of everything you were taught to believe in. Unless you are willing to see the truth, there is no amount of evidence I can show you to change your mind.





    Excellent post & very true.........
     
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    1600+ Architects and Engineers for truth.
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    2 quick questions .  how did the buildings fall at free fall rate wouldnt they slow down floor by floor ? and with the pentagon being one of the most secure buildings in the world how is there no real fotage of a plane hitting it ? no surrounding gas stations or any other camera caught a clear look of the plane

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    2 quick questions .  how did the buildings fall at free fall rate wouldnt they slow down floor by floor ? and with the pentagon being one of the most secure buildings in the world how is there no real fotage of a plane hitting it ? no surrounding gas stations or any other camera caught a clear look of the plane

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