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    Croato
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 12:58 PM ET #501

    And the Oscar for best supporting actor goes to one and only Neymar Jr

    I just don't get why FIFA allows these clowns to make a mockery of the game
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    And the Oscar for best supporting actor goes to one and only Neymar Jr

    I just don't get why FIFA allows these clowns to make a mockery of the game
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 1:03 PM ET #502

    Quote Originally Posted by Croato:

    And the Oscar for best supporting actor goes to one and only Neymar JrI just don't get why FIFA allows these clowns to make a mockery of the game

    He is actually a terrible actor.  Pretty sure that these antics are hurting him getting calls at this point.

    But I do agree - there should be yellows for this type of sh*t. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croato:

    And the Oscar for best supporting actor goes to one and only Neymar JrI just don't get why FIFA allows these clowns to make a mockery of the game

    He is actually a terrible actor.  Pretty sure that these antics are hurting him getting calls at this point.

    But I do agree - there should be yellows for this type of sh*t. 

     

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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 1:33 PM ET #503

    This is why players continue to pull this crap. Great article here:

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/
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    This is why players continue to pull this crap. Great article here:

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 2:00 PM ET #504

    Good Luck and GO BELGIUM!!
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    Good Luck and GO BELGIUM!!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 2:57 PM ET #505

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    This is why players continue to pull this crap. Great article here:https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/

    Pretty sure they got that all wrong.  They were stopping for everything, throw ins, set ups for free kicks etc.

    That is not what stoppage time is.

    It is pretty vague, but I am fairly certain that the criteria that they used and what FIFA uses are quite different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    This is why players continue to pull this crap. Great article here:https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/world-cup-stoppage-time-is-wildly-inaccurate/

    Pretty sure they got that all wrong.  They were stopping for everything, throw ins, set ups for free kicks etc.

    That is not what stoppage time is.

    It is pretty vague, but I am fairly certain that the criteria that they used and what FIFA uses are quite different.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:02 PM ET #506

    How does that happen?  

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    How does that happen?  

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:04 PM ET #507

    I am in total disbelief that Japan let that happen.

    All credit to Japan.  

    I wish all teams played the way these two did - with no embellishment on fouls and even staying up in the box on questionable PKs.
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    I am in total disbelief that Japan let that happen.

    All credit to Japan.  

    I wish all teams played the way these two did - with no embellishment on fouls and even staying up in the box on questionable PKs.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:06 PM ET #508

    Strange thing I noticed in 3 of the 6 games so far....

    A single defender has been solely responsible for a goal against, and scored a goal for their side in the same game:

    France (Pavard)
    Spain (Ramos, I know it was an own goal, but close enough)
    Belgium (Verthongen)
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    Strange thing I noticed in 3 of the 6 games so far....

    A single defender has been solely responsible for a goal against, and scored a goal for their side in the same game:

    France (Pavard)
    Spain (Ramos, I know it was an own goal, but close enough)
    Belgium (Verthongen)
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:09 PM ET #509

    I think I could hear a collective gasp from bookmakers everywhere when Courtois released the ball upfield.

    That had to kill a big win for books.
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    I think I could hear a collective gasp from bookmakers everywhere when Courtois released the ball upfield.

    That had to kill a big win for books.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:13 PM ET #510

    5D had a HT wager on Japan / Belgium....

    Over under 4.5 goals - +3050 on over

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    5D had a HT wager on Japan / Belgium....

    Over under 4.5 goals - +3050 on over

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:14 PM ET #511

    Thoughts on the opening Brazil/Belgium line

    Brazil +110
    Belgium +250
    Draw +240

    I am surprised at any sort of +$ being given on Brazil given their reputation and Belgium's performance today
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    Thoughts on the opening Brazil/Belgium line

    Brazil +110
    Belgium +250
    Draw +240

    I am surprised at any sort of +$ being given on Brazil given their reputation and Belgium's performance today
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:18 PM ET #512

    Quote Originally Posted by freestlyin:

    Thoughts on the opening Brazil/Belgium line

    Brazil +110
    Belgium +250
    Draw +240

    I am surprised at any sort of +$ being given on Brazil given their reputation and Belgium's performance today

    Right about where I thought the line would be.

    So no value play upfront.

    Going to look it over in the next several days.  One thing of note, it is very common for a winning team to have a stumble in the WC.  Dont count Belgium out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freestlyin:

    Thoughts on the opening Brazil/Belgium line

    Brazil +110
    Belgium +250
    Draw +240

    I am surprised at any sort of +$ being given on Brazil given their reputation and Belgium's performance today

    Right about where I thought the line would be.

    So no value play upfront.

    Going to look it over in the next several days.  One thing of note, it is very common for a winning team to have a stumble in the WC.  Dont count Belgium out.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:24 PM ET #513

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I am in total disbelief that Japan let that happen.

    All credit to Japan.  

    I wish all teams played the way these two did - with no embellishment on fouls and even staying up in the box on questionable PKs.

    1000% agree.  no faking injuries. no Neymarisms.   clean game and HIGHLY entertaining.     loved it 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I am in total disbelief that Japan let that happen.

    All credit to Japan.  

    I wish all teams played the way these two did - with no embellishment on fouls and even staying up in the box on questionable PKs.

    1000% agree.  no faking injuries. no Neymarisms.   clean game and HIGHLY entertaining.     loved it 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:24 PM ET #514

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    Right about where I thought the line would be.

    So no value play upfront.

    Going to look it over in the next several days.  One thing of note, it is very common for a winning team to have a stumble in the WC.  Dont count Belgium out.

    Certainly will not be counting out Belgium

     Should have mentioned that I am actually pleasantly surprised at +$$ being given on Brazil as I think that price will go down and the Belgium price will only increase
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:


    Right about where I thought the line would be.

    So no value play upfront.

    Going to look it over in the next several days.  One thing of note, it is very common for a winning team to have a stumble in the WC.  Dont count Belgium out.

    Certainly will not be counting out Belgium

     Should have mentioned that I am actually pleasantly surprised at +$$ being given on Brazil as I think that price will go down and the Belgium price will only increase
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:47 PM ET #515

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Brazil / Mexico under 2.5 -102 (2.55 units to win 2.5) - most likely outcome is Brazil 1-0 or a later goal for 2-0.Got the outcome exactly right, but the route to get there was very different than expected.Mexico loses that game with those tactics and those players against Brazil 10 out of 10.  Terrible setup and coaching.

    Hello Vanzack, I want to know the best strategy to win Brazil in your vision. And Casemiro misses next game and how bad is that for Selecion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Brazil / Mexico under 2.5 -102 (2.55 units to win 2.5) - most likely outcome is Brazil 1-0 or a later goal for 2-0.Got the outcome exactly right, but the route to get there was very different than expected.Mexico loses that game with those tactics and those players against Brazil 10 out of 10.  Terrible setup and coaching.

    Hello Vanzack, I want to know the best strategy to win Brazil in your vision. And Casemiro misses next game and how bad is that for Selecion?

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 4:58 PM ET #516

    Vertongen admitted after the game that his header was not intended to be on goal.

    It was an accident.
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    Vertongen admitted after the game that his header was not intended to be on goal.

    It was an accident.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 5:22 PM ET #517

    Sweden / Switzerland -

    I was pretty surprised to see the Swiss installed as a slight favorite here.  But even more surprised that nobody is talking about Lichsteiner and Schar both out for the Swiss on suspension.

    THIS IS THE STARTING DEFENSE ON THE RIGHT SIDE FOR ALL GROUP GAMES.

    To me, this is a big deal.  If there is one area on the field that playing together means more than others - it is in the defense - and to lose 2 guys (one of which is arguably the best player on Switzerland) that make up one side is a huge handicap.

    This on top of a Swiss side that has leaked goals already - conceding in every match letting in 2 against CR, and 1 against Brazil in their first match and Serbia.  

    The Swiss rely on the playmaking abilities of Shaqiri, Dzemaili and Xhaka - almost more Brazilian in attack than Brazil is now a days.  But after watching Shaqiri in the Premier league for tons of games - he is great when he has space - but really struggles and gets taken out of games early when marked closely and especially with size and strength.  He doesn't perform when he gets roughed up - which is precisely what I think Sweden will do from the get go.

    Once again - I think Sweden is seriously underrated here just like in their previous 3 games.  The loss of Sebastian Larsson is a big loss - but Svenson should replace him and while losing some talent-  it is a like for like switch.  

    I look for Sweden to boss the midfield, and wear down Switzerland.  Sweden's finishing has been poor, and the strikers definitely need to step up and start finishing - Forsberg, Toivenen, and Berg need to be much better from open play - only 2 of their 5 goals have been from open play (two PK, one own goal) and that just isn't good enough.  I look for them to bomb the right side of the Swiss (Swedens left attacking flank) all game with success.

    But all things point me to Sweden in this one.  Big bet for me.  I can see it being a low scoring draw, and Sweden going out on PKs, but I don't see them losing in normal play.

    Sweden PK +110 (90 minutes) (2.5 units to win 2.75)
    Sweden to advance +105 (2.5 units to win 2.625)

    Predicted final score Sweden 1-0
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    Sweden / Switzerland -

    I was pretty surprised to see the Swiss installed as a slight favorite here.  But even more surprised that nobody is talking about Lichsteiner and Schar both out for the Swiss on suspension.

    THIS IS THE STARTING DEFENSE ON THE RIGHT SIDE FOR ALL GROUP GAMES.

    To me, this is a big deal.  If there is one area on the field that playing together means more than others - it is in the defense - and to lose 2 guys (one of which is arguably the best player on Switzerland) that make up one side is a huge handicap.

    This on top of a Swiss side that has leaked goals already - conceding in every match letting in 2 against CR, and 1 against Brazil in their first match and Serbia.  

    The Swiss rely on the playmaking abilities of Shaqiri, Dzemaili and Xhaka - almost more Brazilian in attack than Brazil is now a days.  But after watching Shaqiri in the Premier league for tons of games - he is great when he has space - but really struggles and gets taken out of games early when marked closely and especially with size and strength.  He doesn't perform when he gets roughed up - which is precisely what I think Sweden will do from the get go.

    Once again - I think Sweden is seriously underrated here just like in their previous 3 games.  The loss of Sebastian Larsson is a big loss - but Svenson should replace him and while losing some talent-  it is a like for like switch.  

    I look for Sweden to boss the midfield, and wear down Switzerland.  Sweden's finishing has been poor, and the strikers definitely need to step up and start finishing - Forsberg, Toivenen, and Berg need to be much better from open play - only 2 of their 5 goals have been from open play (two PK, one own goal) and that just isn't good enough.  I look for them to bomb the right side of the Swiss (Swedens left attacking flank) all game with success.

    But all things point me to Sweden in this one.  Big bet for me.  I can see it being a low scoring draw, and Sweden going out on PKs, but I don't see them losing in normal play.

    Sweden PK +110 (90 minutes) (2.5 units to win 2.75)
    Sweden to advance +105 (2.5 units to win 2.625)

    Predicted final score Sweden 1-0
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 5:31 PM ET #518

    England / Colombia -

    Finding it hard to like much of anything in this one - I think the price is fair given Englands form and the James injury doubts.

    I do think England have looked messy on defense, and that could lead to some chances against - and they have been lethal finishing - so goals seem likely.  

    England Colombia Over 2 -102 (1.53 units to win 1.5)
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    England / Colombia -

    Finding it hard to like much of anything in this one - I think the price is fair given Englands form and the James injury doubts.

    I do think England have looked messy on defense, and that could lead to some chances against - and they have been lethal finishing - so goals seem likely.  

    England Colombia Over 2 -102 (1.53 units to win 1.5)
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 5:36 PM ET #519

    Love the Sweden play here Van... feels like they will bully the swiss up and down the pitch. Shaqiri  is the wildcard for me, that man is a boss. Doesnt get his dues cause he is hidden in Stoke City but something tells me a champs league side just under the big global spenders buys him - sides at the Tot, pool, Juve, Athletico etc level...

     

    Need to do a bit more work but a mix of pick-em and qualify is where my mind was headed and will probably follow suit...

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    Love the Sweden play here Van... feels like they will bully the swiss up and down the pitch. Shaqiri  is the wildcard for me, that man is a boss. Doesnt get his dues cause he is hidden in Stoke City but something tells me a champs league side just under the big global spenders buys him - sides at the Tot, pool, Juve, Athletico etc level...

     

    Need to do a bit more work but a mix of pick-em and qualify is where my mind was headed and will probably follow suit...

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 5:44 PM ET #520

    I have watched the Belgium winning goal several times now, and if anyone wants to teach a youngster textbook off the ball movement, watch Lukaku on the goal.

    He never touches the ball - but is the sole reason the goal was scored.  He creates space for the initial pass to Meunier by running away drawing the only defender on that side, and then doubles back by running in to Meunier once the cross was coming, clearing out the backside space.

    Just incredible.  And for a younger player to do that - while never touching the ball - is pretty amazing.
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    I have watched the Belgium winning goal several times now, and if anyone wants to teach a youngster textbook off the ball movement, watch Lukaku on the goal.

    He never touches the ball - but is the sole reason the goal was scored.  He creates space for the initial pass to Meunier by running away drawing the only defender on that side, and then doubles back by running in to Meunier once the cross was coming, clearing out the backside space.

    Just incredible.  And for a younger player to do that - while never touching the ball - is pretty amazing.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 5:47 PM ET #521

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I have watched the Belgium winning goal several times now, and if anyone wants to teach a youngster textbook off the ball movement, watch Lukaku on the goal.He never touches the ball - but is the sole reason the goal was scored.  He creates space for the initial pass to Meunier by running away drawing the only defender on that side, and then doubles back by running in to Meunier once the cross was coming, clearing out the backside space.Just incredible.  And for a younger player to do that - while never touching the ball - is pretty amazing.

     

    Not his day otherwise but you speak facts, what a great goal. Romelu is a great team player and leader with power, strength, great movement and hold up play... If he can learn to shoot without needing 2-3 touches he will be the complete striker perhaps he can learn from Henry or so train with Cavani (the best at it) during the offseason.. This weakness is pronounced and gets more so as the competition gets more intense

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I have watched the Belgium winning goal several times now, and if anyone wants to teach a youngster textbook off the ball movement, watch Lukaku on the goal.He never touches the ball - but is the sole reason the goal was scored.  He creates space for the initial pass to Meunier by running away drawing the only defender on that side, and then doubles back by running in to Meunier once the cross was coming, clearing out the backside space.Just incredible.  And for a younger player to do that - while never touching the ball - is pretty amazing.

     

    Not his day otherwise but you speak facts, what a great goal. Romelu is a great team player and leader with power, strength, great movement and hold up play... If he can learn to shoot without needing 2-3 touches he will be the complete striker perhaps he can learn from Henry or so train with Cavani (the best at it) during the offseason.. This weakness is pronounced and gets more so as the competition gets more intense

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 10:10 PM ET #522

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:


    1000% agree.  no faking injuries. no Neymarisms.   clean game and HIGHLY entertaining.     loved it 


    My kids crack up  at how fake Neymar is ... Reminds me of a 4yr old ..pathetic ....Hope Belgium drills them
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:


    1000% agree.  no faking injuries. no Neymarisms.   clean game and HIGHLY entertaining.     loved it 


    My kids crack up  at how fake Neymar is ... Reminds me of a 4yr old ..pathetic ....Hope Belgium drills them
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 11:18 PM ET #523

    Can you explain Sweden pk to me? I am an extreme novice soccer bettor.
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    Can you explain Sweden pk to me? I am an extreme novice soccer bettor.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 11:41 PM ET #524

    I still cannot figure out why they keep the time in soccer secret and on the field. Ridiculous and the only sport that is done this way. Would be very useful to put it on the scoreboard and simply blow a whistle and raise a hand like they do in other sports so everyone knows when the game is over.
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    I still cannot figure out why they keep the time in soccer secret and on the field. Ridiculous and the only sport that is done this way. Would be very useful to put it on the scoreboard and simply blow a whistle and raise a hand like they do in other sports so everyone knows when the game is over.
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2018 - 11:45 PM ET #525

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    England / Colombia -Finding it hard to like much of anything in this one - I think the price is fair given Englands form and the James injury doubts.I do think England have looked messy on defense, and that could lead to some chances against - and they have been lethal finishing - so goals seem likely.  England Colombia Over 2 -102 (1.53 units to win 1.5)

     

    Close to jumping on this one ... Thought i would paying -140 or more at 2 .... 

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    England / Colombia -Finding it hard to like much of anything in this one - I think the price is fair given Englands form and the James injury doubts.I do think England have looked messy on defense, and that could lead to some chances against - and they have been lethal finishing - so goals seem likely.  England Colombia Over 2 -102 (1.53 units to win 1.5)

     

    Close to jumping on this one ... Thought i would paying -140 or more at 2 .... 

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