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    USC and UCLA to the BIG10??

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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 8:47 PM ET #26

    usc vs ohio st usc vs michigan alabama vs oklahoma tedxas vs georgia bama vs texas texas vs texas a & m whats not to like about this big boy matchups every weekend no cupcakes
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    Posted: Jul. 3, 2022 - 8:56 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by GamblinDAWG:

    @themaceo Very curious about the ACC... would the SEC also interested in the Miami and Tallahassee market?   We're definitely headed to 2 or 3 super conferences and they will most likely be independent of the NCAA.
    If 8 teams leave the ACC, the grant of rights is null and void, but good luck finding 8 teams that can find new homes. The best bet is the SEC takes four, and the Big 12 takes four. And the Big 10 possibly getting a couple teams. But it's not like anybody is going to give up the ACC payday to join the Sun Belt voluntarily. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by GamblinDAWG:

    @themaceo Very curious about the ACC... would the SEC also interested in the Miami and Tallahassee market?   We're definitely headed to 2 or 3 super conferences and they will most likely be independent of the NCAA.
    If 8 teams leave the ACC, the grant of rights is null and void, but good luck finding 8 teams that can find new homes. The best bet is the SEC takes four, and the Big 12 takes four. And the Big 10 possibly getting a couple teams. But it's not like anybody is going to give up the ACC payday to join the Sun Belt voluntarily. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 12:25 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by NewDarkDay:

    usc vs ohio st usc vs michigan alabama vs oklahoma tedxas vs georgia bama vs texas texas vs texas a & m whats not to like about this big boy matchups every weekend no cupcakes
    Some traditional rivalries are going to go by the wayside. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewDarkDay:

    usc vs ohio st usc vs michigan alabama vs oklahoma tedxas vs georgia bama vs texas texas vs texas a & m whats not to like about this big boy matchups every weekend no cupcakes
    Some traditional rivalries are going to go by the wayside. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 12:28 PM ET #29

    They probably have the paper work already done for Clemson to the SEC. ACC PAC & B12 should merge. surprised

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    They probably have the paper work already done for Clemson to the SEC. ACC PAC & B12 should merge. surprised

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 12:35 PM ET #30

    One thing is for certain..the train has left the station. peace_5

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    One thing is for certain..the train has left the station. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 7:48 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by NewDarkDay: usc vs ohio st usc vs michigan alabama vs oklahoma tedxas vs georgia bama vs texas texas vs texas a & m whats not to like about this big boy matchups every weekend no cupcakes Some traditional rivalries are going to go by the wayside.
    peace_5sure you will get some big matchups, but something cool about conference play and traditional rivalry games-sure they will keep the Red River Shootout--but Stanford/Irish, Georgia/Georgia Tech and other in-state matchups will probably end--I liked it when UCLA/USC Michigan met every 10 years or so in the Rose..now it will be every year ho-hum...Kirk Herbstreit said it best--going to be like the NFL but on Saturdays...

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by NewDarkDay: usc vs ohio st usc vs michigan alabama vs oklahoma tedxas vs georgia bama vs texas texas vs texas a & m whats not to like about this big boy matchups every weekend no cupcakes Some traditional rivalries are going to go by the wayside.
    peace_5sure you will get some big matchups, but something cool about conference play and traditional rivalry games-sure they will keep the Red River Shootout--but Stanford/Irish, Georgia/Georgia Tech and other in-state matchups will probably end--I liked it when UCLA/USC Michigan met every 10 years or so in the Rose..now it will be every year ho-hum...Kirk Herbstreit said it best--going to be like the NFL but on Saturdays...

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2022 - 8:02 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    One thing is for certain..the train has left the station.

    I'll stick with the MAC , the POWER 5 or whatever BS they're merging to is dead to me ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    One thing is for certain..the train has left the station.

    I'll stick with the MAC , the POWER 5 or whatever BS they're merging to is dead to me ..

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2022 - 6:09 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for certain..the train has left the station. I'll stick with the MAC , the POWER 5 or whatever BS they're merging to is dead to me ..
    i'm kinda liking W. Mich + 17 plus, though i'm thinking it may take them a couple games for offense to mesh. Def will be backing Turtles against Shuffle opening week.peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for certain..the train has left the station. I'll stick with the MAC , the POWER 5 or whatever BS they're merging to is dead to me ..
    i'm kinda liking W. Mich + 17 plus, though i'm thinking it may take them a couple games for offense to mesh. Def will be backing Turtles against Shuffle opening week.peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2022 - 9:57 AM ET #34

    Here's what will happen...

     

    SEC and BIG10 are headed to 24 team conferences. SEC will target Clemson, Miami, FSU, VT, possibly the NC schools, OKState, or Georgia Tech. BIG10 will look to add the rest of the West Coast in Wash, Oregon, Stanford, Utah and they'll look at basketball with Kansas, UNC, and Duke. All of that effort will lead to their big pitch to Notre Dame. There will basically be a "Power 2" and the remnants of the ACC, PAC12, and BIG12 will be just middle tier schools.

     

    Once they approach 48 teams, they will create their own 8-12 team football playoff, independent of the NCAA, with the large majority coming from the SEC/BIG and maybe a couple at large bids to the outsiders. That will be part of the BIG's selling point to Notre Dame as well because the Irish aren't going to be left out of the "premier" CFP and they don't want to risk being left out while vying for 1 of the "at-large" CFP bids.

     

    Yes, we will get some really premium matchups every year with this set up. The super conferences will generate so much money that the gap will grow even further between those in the league and those outside of it. They'll need to keep 1-2 "pay for play" games each year for the power houses to keep some of the smaller programs from shutting down. What we know now as the Group of 5 conferences plus what's left of the ACC/PAC/BIG12 would be better served to create their own playoff or 99.9% of those schools won't ever have an opportunity to win a national title regardless of success.

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    Here's what will happen...

     

    SEC and BIG10 are headed to 24 team conferences. SEC will target Clemson, Miami, FSU, VT, possibly the NC schools, OKState, or Georgia Tech. BIG10 will look to add the rest of the West Coast in Wash, Oregon, Stanford, Utah and they'll look at basketball with Kansas, UNC, and Duke. All of that effort will lead to their big pitch to Notre Dame. There will basically be a "Power 2" and the remnants of the ACC, PAC12, and BIG12 will be just middle tier schools.

     

    Once they approach 48 teams, they will create their own 8-12 team football playoff, independent of the NCAA, with the large majority coming from the SEC/BIG and maybe a couple at large bids to the outsiders. That will be part of the BIG's selling point to Notre Dame as well because the Irish aren't going to be left out of the "premier" CFP and they don't want to risk being left out while vying for 1 of the "at-large" CFP bids.

     

    Yes, we will get some really premium matchups every year with this set up. The super conferences will generate so much money that the gap will grow even further between those in the league and those outside of it. They'll need to keep 1-2 "pay for play" games each year for the power houses to keep some of the smaller programs from shutting down. What we know now as the Group of 5 conferences plus what's left of the ACC/PAC/BIG12 would be better served to create their own playoff or 99.9% of those schools won't ever have an opportunity to win a national title regardless of success.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2022 - 12:29 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for certain..the train has left the station. I'll stick with the MAC , the POWER 5 or whatever BS they're merging to is dead to me .. i'm kinda liking W. Mich + 17 plus, though i'm thinking it may take them a couple games for offense to mesh. Def will be backing Turtles against Shuffle opening week.

     

    Buffalo is in big trouble..The spring game was embarrassing to watch ....

    The offense should have major trouble staying on the field , defense is decent but won't get much of a break....

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life: Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: One thing is for certain..the train has left the station. I'll stick with the MAC , the POWER 5 or whatever BS they're merging to is dead to me .. i'm kinda liking W. Mich + 17 plus, though i'm thinking it may take them a couple games for offense to mesh. Def will be backing Turtles against Shuffle opening week.

     

    Buffalo is in big trouble..The spring game was embarrassing to watch ....

    The offense should have major trouble staying on the field , defense is decent but won't get much of a break....

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2022 - 5:30 PM ET #36

    More good stuff from Neuheisel/Childers today...   Fox Sports/TV owns 60% of the Big Ten Network.   With the current deals in place, each Big10 team is worth about $100 million in media rights.  Unless they value Oregon/Washington etc at $101 million, they won't take them.   There is a very high up person at Fox that is a huge USC guy and his fingerprints are all over this.   Hence having Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart on Fox studio shows and the likely push for Urban Meyer to USC rumors last year.  

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    More good stuff from Neuheisel/Childers today...   Fox Sports/TV owns 60% of the Big Ten Network.   With the current deals in place, each Big10 team is worth about $100 million in media rights.  Unless they value Oregon/Washington etc at $101 million, they won't take them.   There is a very high up person at Fox that is a huge USC guy and his fingerprints are all over this.   Hence having Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart on Fox studio shows and the likely push for Urban Meyer to USC rumors last year.  

     
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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2022 - 6:24 PM ET #37

    @BWS77

     Big Ten just keeping up with Joneses otherwise known as the SEC.

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     Big Ten just keeping up with Joneses otherwise known as the SEC.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 12:29 PM ET #38

    Really curious now to see what happens to Oregon. The most viewed Pac-12 game about every week was whatever game Oregon was playing in. Not one USC game (against another Pac-12 team) rated better than any Oregon game. I'm not sure LA really cares much about college football as they did 20 years ago. Of course USC football has sucked for the past 15+ years. Maybe Riley can get the fans back on the bandwagon. But the market size isn't as relevant as it used to be. These days it's more about how many eyeballs can they actually bring. It's all about the brand name.

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    Really curious now to see what happens to Oregon. The most viewed Pac-12 game about every week was whatever game Oregon was playing in. Not one USC game (against another Pac-12 team) rated better than any Oregon game. I'm not sure LA really cares much about college football as they did 20 years ago. Of course USC football has sucked for the past 15+ years. Maybe Riley can get the fans back on the bandwagon. But the market size isn't as relevant as it used to be. These days it's more about how many eyeballs can they actually bring. It's all about the brand name.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2022 - 9:26 PM ET #39

    SI says;

    UCLA was looking at the possibility of cutting almost half its sports programs, according to a new report from the Los Angeles Times.

    UCLA was running out of money hand over fist — until the Big Ten came along.

    "Given its perilous athletic department finances, UCLA faced the prospect of cutting sports had the school not greed to bolt for the Big Ten," the report said.

    It continued, "The timing isn't certain and the number of teams that would have been affected isn't known, but the Bruins were headed toward an Olympic sports Armageddon without the infusion of cash that will accompany its departure from the Pac-12 Conference in 2024."

    https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football/college-football-news-ucla-big-ten-expansion-reason

     

     

     

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    SI says;

    UCLA was looking at the possibility of cutting almost half its sports programs, according to a new report from the Los Angeles Times.

    UCLA was running out of money hand over fist — until the Big Ten came along.

    "Given its perilous athletic department finances, UCLA faced the prospect of cutting sports had the school not greed to bolt for the Big Ten," the report said.

    It continued, "The timing isn't certain and the number of teams that would have been affected isn't known, but the Bruins were headed toward an Olympic sports Armageddon without the infusion of cash that will accompany its departure from the Pac-12 Conference in 2024."

    https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/ncaa-football/college-football-news-ucla-big-ten-expansion-reason

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:

    Really curious now to see what happens to Oregon. The most viewed Pac-12 game about every week was whatever game Oregon was playing in. Not one USC game (against another Pac-12 team) rated better than any Oregon game. I'm not sure LA really cares much about college football as they did 20 years ago. Of course USC football has sucked for the past 15+ years. Maybe Riley can get the fans back on the bandwagon. But the market size isn't as relevant as it used to be. These days it's more about how many eyeballs can they actually bring. It's all about the brand name.

     

     

    Intrested in Oregon ...Maybe they'll end up I the ACC ?? Would be wild traveling to Syracuse for bowling. Lol 

    All of this really pisses me off as a fan ...Game will never be the same soon .

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    Really curious now to see what happens to Oregon. The most viewed Pac-12 game about every week was whatever game Oregon was playing in. Not one USC game (against another Pac-12 team) rated better than any Oregon game. I'm not sure LA really cares much about college football as they did 20 years ago. Of course USC football has sucked for the past 15+ years. Maybe Riley can get the fans back on the bandwagon. But the market size isn't as relevant as it used to be. These days it's more about how many eyeballs can they actually bring. It's all about the brand name.

     

     

    Intrested in Oregon ...Maybe they'll end up I the ACC ?? Would be wild traveling to Syracuse for bowling. Lol 

    All of this really pisses me off as a fan ...Game will never be the same soon .

     
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    I've heard that UCLA plays a few sports that don't exist in the Big 10. I wonder how they are going to work that out. Keep their secondary sports in the Pac-12? Or discontinue them..

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    I've heard that UCLA plays a few sports that don't exist in the Big 10. I wonder how they are going to work that out. Keep their secondary sports in the Pac-12? Or discontinue them..

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: Really curious now to see what happens to Oregon. The most viewed Pac-12 game about every week was whatever game Oregon was playing in. Not one USC game (against another Pac-12 team) rated better than any Oregon game. I'm not sure LA really cares much about college football as they did 20 years ago. Of course USC football has sucked for the past 15+ years. Maybe Riley can get the fans back on the bandwagon. But the market size isn't as relevant as it used to be. These days it's more about how many eyeballs can they actually bring. It's all about the brand name.     Intrested in Oregon ...Maybe they'll end up I the ACC ?? Would be wild traveling to Syracuse for bowling. Lol  All of this really pisses me off as a fan ...Game will never be the same soon .
    I'm not very excited about my Sooners moving to the SEC either. I'm trying to prepare myself for a few 7-5, 8-4 seasons. I don't think geographically OU will ever be able to compete with the Bama's and Georgia's in recruiting. I hope I'm wrong. As for Oregon, if they don't go Independent I think their best bet would be the Big 10 or Big 12. Especially if the Big 12 can snatch up Utah, Zona, ASU or Colorado. The Big 12 is at a slight advantage over the ACC or Pac-12 because it's centrally located and travel wouldn't be as much of a problem like it will with USC and UCLA in the Big..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove: Really curious now to see what happens to Oregon. The most viewed Pac-12 game about every week was whatever game Oregon was playing in. Not one USC game (against another Pac-12 team) rated better than any Oregon game. I'm not sure LA really cares much about college football as they did 20 years ago. Of course USC football has sucked for the past 15+ years. Maybe Riley can get the fans back on the bandwagon. But the market size isn't as relevant as it used to be. These days it's more about how many eyeballs can they actually bring. It's all about the brand name.     Intrested in Oregon ...Maybe they'll end up I the ACC ?? Would be wild traveling to Syracuse for bowling. Lol  All of this really pisses me off as a fan ...Game will never be the same soon .
    I'm not very excited about my Sooners moving to the SEC either. I'm trying to prepare myself for a few 7-5, 8-4 seasons. I don't think geographically OU will ever be able to compete with the Bama's and Georgia's in recruiting. I hope I'm wrong. As for Oregon, if they don't go Independent I think their best bet would be the Big 10 or Big 12. Especially if the Big 12 can snatch up Utah, Zona, ASU or Colorado. The Big 12 is at a slight advantage over the ACC or Pac-12 because it's centrally located and travel wouldn't be as much of a problem like it will with USC and UCLA in the Big..

     
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    Meanwhile touchdown Jesus is waiting for the dye to be cast. an_popcorn

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    Meanwhile touchdown Jesus is waiting for the dye to be cast. an_popcorn

     
     
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     Agree 100%.   I used to get pissed at players not playing their bowls,  then you realize the effin coaches don’t hang around long enough to coach their bowls.  EVERYONE just looking out for themselves and maximizing THEIR bottom line.  The schools started the whoring,  then the coaches followed with their whoring..how can anyone blame the players for their me-first attitudes 

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     Agree 100%.   I used to get pissed at players not playing their bowls,  then you realize the effin coaches don’t hang around long enough to coach their bowls.  EVERYONE just looking out for themselves and maximizing THEIR bottom line.  The schools started the whoring,  then the coaches followed with their whoring..how can anyone blame the players for their me-first attitudes 

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