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    SEC is SOOOOO overrated!

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    SatNightFever05
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 3:55 PM ET #26

    SEC, this year, is garbage..

    LSU/Bama

    then Arkansas/UGA... then little farther down is South Carolina.. then the ball drops to get to the rest.. Miss State, Florida, Vandy..

    SEC has 0 depth this year and I think that will show in the bowl games..
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    SEC, this year, is garbage..

    LSU/Bama

    then Arkansas/UGA... then little farther down is South Carolina.. then the ball drops to get to the rest.. Miss State, Florida, Vandy..

    SEC has 0 depth this year and I think that will show in the bowl games..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 4:01 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:

    Tappy, LSU will win against anyone they play in the NC.....not just OSU.  LSU would give the Indy Colts a game. 

    These post go away with a College Football playoff system.....and yes....the SEC will win more playoff games than any other conference.

     


    That is an opinion... LSU is not guaranteed a victory against a team that took them to overtime, out played them, and could have gone completely different with the exception of a few calls. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpShooter8:

    Tappy, LSU will win against anyone they play in the NC.....not just OSU.  LSU would give the Indy Colts a game. 

    These post go away with a College Football playoff system.....and yes....the SEC will win more playoff games than any other conference.

     


    That is an opinion... LSU is not guaranteed a victory against a team that took them to overtime, out played them, and could have gone completely different with the exception of a few calls. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 4:02 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

    SEC, this year, is garbage..

    LSU/Bama

    then Arkansas/UGA... then little farther down is South Carolina.. then the ball drops to get to the rest.. Miss State, Florida, Vandy..

    SEC has 0 depth this year and I think that will show in the bowl games..

    And top to bottom there isn't another conference that can beat it. LOL! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

    SEC, this year, is garbage..

    LSU/Bama

    then Arkansas/UGA... then little farther down is South Carolina.. then the ball drops to get to the rest.. Miss State, Florida, Vandy..

    SEC has 0 depth this year and I think that will show in the bowl games..

    And top to bottom there isn't another conference that can beat it. LOL! 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 4:02 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:

    I like how he's so adamant about this; like he can't go to sleep unless he convinces everybody. A very sad affair indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:

    I like how he's so adamant about this; like he can't go to sleep unless he convinces everybody. A very sad affair indeed.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 4:24 PM ET #30

    SEC is  astep above every other conference. Every team has top notch training facilities, and now they are reaping the rewards of winning 5 in a row--recruiting.

    Now they get Missouri AND Tex A&M. Wow.

    Get used to it. They are there to stay, if you follow college FB. The fans of the SEC are annoying--the most annoying, and they are easily deluded and understandably miopic.

    Oregon had their chance last season, and beg. of this year. No passing game from the Ducks, and a soft defense (esp. this year as opposed to last yr's.).

    You need a balanced offense that moves the chains and score at least once/quarter. Maybe Georgia has that. They do run the ball well. That is a tiny possibility for Okie St, Va Tech or Stanford.

    Otherwise, yeah, I agree, Alabama NOT having to play but being essentially locked up for a spot---fair? No.

    Coaches should NOT vote in the BCS--they don't even watch the games from all these teams--this is a lame ass rule.

    Signed,

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    SEC is  astep above every other conference. Every team has top notch training facilities, and now they are reaping the rewards of winning 5 in a row--recruiting.

    Now they get Missouri AND Tex A&M. Wow.

    Get used to it. They are there to stay, if you follow college FB. The fans of the SEC are annoying--the most annoying, and they are easily deluded and understandably miopic.

    Oregon had their chance last season, and beg. of this year. No passing game from the Ducks, and a soft defense (esp. this year as opposed to last yr's.).

    You need a balanced offense that moves the chains and score at least once/quarter. Maybe Georgia has that. They do run the ball well. That is a tiny possibility for Okie St, Va Tech or Stanford.

    Otherwise, yeah, I agree, Alabama NOT having to play but being essentially locked up for a spot---fair? No.

    Coaches should NOT vote in the BCS--they don't even watch the games from all these teams--this is a lame ass rule.

    Signed,

    Alabama fan

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 4:58 PM ET #31

    wow!  there is nothing more ignorant than complete denial when faced with over-whelming evidence...

    you guys truly embarrass the fuck out of yourself...

    didn't see a single comment that was worthy of response beyond what i just said... sad state of affairs!
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    wow!  there is nothing more ignorant than complete denial when faced with over-whelming evidence...

    you guys truly embarrass the fuck out of yourself...

    didn't see a single comment that was worthy of response beyond what i just said... sad state of affairs!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 5:01 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

    SEC, this year, is garbage..

    LSU/Bama

    then Arkansas/UGA... then little farther down is South Carolina.. then the ball drops to get to the rest.. Miss State, Florida, Vandy..

    SEC has 0 depth this year and I think that will show in the bowl games..



    some of you douchebags come in here... not trying to refute any part of my argument, and yet trying to discredit the argument with personal attacks...


    SOMEBODY ADDRESS THIS COMMENT ABOVE! 


    otherwise, you are tacitly waving the white-fucking-flag!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

    SEC, this year, is garbage..

    LSU/Bama

    then Arkansas/UGA... then little farther down is South Carolina.. then the ball drops to get to the rest.. Miss State, Florida, Vandy..

    SEC has 0 depth this year and I think that will show in the bowl games..



    some of you douchebags come in here... not trying to refute any part of my argument, and yet trying to discredit the argument with personal attacks...


    SOMEBODY ADDRESS THIS COMMENT ABOVE! 


    otherwise, you are tacitly waving the white-fucking-flag!


     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 5:07 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:




    some of you douchebags come in here... not trying to refute any part of my argument, and yet trying to discredit the argument with personal attacks...


    SOMEBODY ADDRESS THIS COMMENT ABOVE! 


    otherwise, you are tacitly waving the white-fucking-flag!



    Once again... Making comments to feel better about your own idiocy... You should really look into that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:




    some of you douchebags come in here... not trying to refute any part of my argument, and yet trying to discredit the argument with personal attacks...


    SOMEBODY ADDRESS THIS COMMENT ABOVE! 


    otherwise, you are tacitly waving the white-fucking-flag!



    Once again... Making comments to feel better about your own idiocy... You should really look into that
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 5:09 PM ET #34

    I have seen the predicted bowl game matchups.

    Ok St is 6 SOS and Bama is 31 SOS.  Who wants to see a rematch with LSU?   Bama lost at home.  Scored 0 in OT.  Looked bad doing it.

    Ok St vs LSU

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    I have seen the predicted bowl game matchups.

    Ok St is 6 SOS and Bama is 31 SOS.  Who wants to see a rematch with LSU?   Bama lost at home.  Scored 0 in OT.  Looked bad doing it.

    Ok St vs LSU

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 5:18 PM ET #35

    Wow.  What a moron.  Sure OSU's opponents have more "quality" wins but look who they are against...ALL BIG12 schools. The Big 12 is nothing but an overratted arena league conference minus MAYBE Oklahoma.  Seriously, ANY team that loses to a team like Iowa St. should automatically be exempt from any discussion of playing in the MNC. 

    I do agree with you that the BCS is flawed.  How they can use those garbage computer rankings is beyond me.  Seriously, the Big 12 is not a good conference from top to bottom it just appears that way b/c all of the medicore teams just beat up on other medicore teams.  You will see what happens next year when TA&M and Mizzo join the SEC, neither team will finish great than .500 in the conference, and that my friend, you can take to the BANK.

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    Wow.  What a moron.  Sure OSU's opponents have more "quality" wins but look who they are against...ALL BIG12 schools. The Big 12 is nothing but an overratted arena league conference minus MAYBE Oklahoma.  Seriously, ANY team that loses to a team like Iowa St. should automatically be exempt from any discussion of playing in the MNC. 

    I do agree with you that the BCS is flawed.  How they can use those garbage computer rankings is beyond me.  Seriously, the Big 12 is not a good conference from top to bottom it just appears that way b/c all of the medicore teams just beat up on other medicore teams.  You will see what happens next year when TA&M and Mizzo join the SEC, neither team will finish great than .500 in the conference, and that my friend, you can take to the BANK.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 5:20 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

    SEC, this year, is garbage..

    LSU/Bama

    then Arkansas/UGA... then little farther down is South Carolina.. then the ball drops to get to the rest.. Miss State, Florida, Vandy..

    SEC has 0 depth this year and I think that will show in the bowl games..

     

    Yeah, South Carolina is worse than UGA because they beat them on their home field and have the same record. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

    SEC, this year, is garbage..

    LSU/Bama

    then Arkansas/UGA... then little farther down is South Carolina.. then the ball drops to get to the rest.. Miss State, Florida, Vandy..

    SEC has 0 depth this year and I think that will show in the bowl games..

     

    Yeah, South Carolina is worse than UGA because they beat them on their home field and have the same record. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 5:20 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:


    Once again... Making comments to feel better about your own idiocy... You should really look into that



    once again, typing words without actually saying anything... you should really look into THAT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:


    Once again... Making comments to feel better about your own idiocy... You should really look into that



    once again, typing words without actually saying anything... you should really look into THAT!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 5:21 PM ET #38

    And one more thing, you SEC haters do realize that LSU will only be a 1-2 pt favorite against Bama but if they played anyone else, they would be a double digit favorite...thats right LSU >10pt fav against ANYONE. 
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    And one more thing, you SEC haters do realize that LSU will only be a 1-2 pt favorite against Bama but if they played anyone else, they would be a double digit favorite...thats right LSU >10pt fav against ANYONE. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 5:22 PM ET #39

    I'll go with the polls

    and the computer

    and Sports Illustrated

    and the the tv ratings on CBS

    and the last 5 years

    by saying the SEC is NOT overrated

    They DELIVER THE GOODS

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    I'll go with the polls

    and the computer

    and Sports Illustrated

    and the the tv ratings on CBS

    and the last 5 years

    by saying the SEC is NOT overrated

    They DELIVER THE GOODS

     
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    There is no doubt that the SEC is down this year, but there is also no doubting that LSU & Bama are the two best teams in the country from the standpoint of athletes & depth. These two dominated a down SEC that more than likely will not stay down next year. This conference has won the past 5 NCG & you can try to put any spin you want on that fact, but it's the truth & quite a statement. OSU has a very good team this year & probably deserves a shot at LSU (playoffs anyone?) but it's not LSU or Bama's fault that's not the case. Based on the eye test, opinions of most coaches, analysts & recruiting publications they are the two best teams in the country. I personally think OSU could give both a fight in any single game, but if they played either 10 times they would lose 8. The Big 12 has no defenses that can compare to LSU or Bama.
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    There is no doubt that the SEC is down this year, but there is also no doubting that LSU & Bama are the two best teams in the country from the standpoint of athletes & depth. These two dominated a down SEC that more than likely will not stay down next year. This conference has won the past 5 NCG & you can try to put any spin you want on that fact, but it's the truth & quite a statement. OSU has a very good team this year & probably deserves a shot at LSU (playoffs anyone?) but it's not LSU or Bama's fault that's not the case. Based on the eye test, opinions of most coaches, analysts & recruiting publications they are the two best teams in the country. I personally think OSU could give both a fight in any single game, but if they played either 10 times they would lose 8. The Big 12 has no defenses that can compare to LSU or Bama.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 5:23 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    that's all!


    i've been looking into this more and more, and blown away by what i see... people who think Alabama gets extra points for playing in the SEC are so full of shit i can smell them from here...

    i will elaborate on this at some point... beware, if you try to debate this, i will fucking expose you!  


    Alabama's schedule this year is a fucking joke!  how many bye weeks did they get, as compared to Oklahoma St?

    ridiculous... you guys pimping the SEC are fucking clueless!


    expose this...you are mororn for saying the SEC is over rated, and Okie St LOST TO FUCKING IOWA STATE.

    Try the eye test, there is not 1 team that could hang with LSU other than Bama bc of their defense and lets not forget the Hesiman RB; their # 2 RB isnt too shabby either.

    Okie ST offense wouldnt even know what to do with bama's D shoving their fist dont their throats and physically beating the shit out of them.

    keep comparing stats all you want, Nobody in their right mind would pay good money to watch Bama or LSU throttle the Cowboys

    -chef

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    that's all!


    i've been looking into this more and more, and blown away by what i see... people who think Alabama gets extra points for playing in the SEC are so full of shit i can smell them from here...

    i will elaborate on this at some point... beware, if you try to debate this, i will fucking expose you!  


    Alabama's schedule this year is a fucking joke!  how many bye weeks did they get, as compared to Oklahoma St?

    ridiculous... you guys pimping the SEC are fucking clueless!


    expose this...you are mororn for saying the SEC is over rated, and Okie St LOST TO FUCKING IOWA STATE.

    Try the eye test, there is not 1 team that could hang with LSU other than Bama bc of their defense and lets not forget the Hesiman RB; their # 2 RB isnt too shabby either.

    Okie ST offense wouldnt even know what to do with bama's D shoving their fist dont their throats and physically beating the shit out of them.

    keep comparing stats all you want, Nobody in their right mind would pay good money to watch Bama or LSU throttle the Cowboys

    -chef

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by paparaz:

    Wow.  What a moron.  Sure OSU's opponents have more "quality" wins but look who they are against...ALL BIG12 schools.



    wow, dude!  you just fell into one of the biggest logical fallacies there is... Logic 101, day 1... this is known as "Affirming the Consequent"... or better known as "putting the cart before the horse"...



    you are basically saying... the SEC is better because the SEC teams have to play other SEC teams... and the Big 12 sucks because they get to play Big 12 teams...

    that argument cuts both ways...



    the fact is... STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE establishes it's baseline NOT from the games where Big 12 teams play other Big 12 teams, or SEC teams play other SEC teams... IT COMES FROM WHAT TEAMS DO OUT OF CONFERENCE!

    the reason the Big 12 is getting the benefit of the doubt is because their OOC performance has been better than anybody else's...


    there is no opinion involved in my end of the discussion... i couldn't care less which is the right side, as long as i know what that side is... i am in it to win it!  unlike you guys, who are trying to defend an UNTENABLE position, simply to protect your dogma...

    do you know what that is called in the real world:  FANATICISM!

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    Wow.  What a moron.  Sure OSU's opponents have more "quality" wins but look who they are against...ALL BIG12 schools.



    wow, dude!  you just fell into one of the biggest logical fallacies there is... Logic 101, day 1... this is known as "Affirming the Consequent"... or better known as "putting the cart before the horse"...



    you are basically saying... the SEC is better because the SEC teams have to play other SEC teams... and the Big 12 sucks because they get to play Big 12 teams...

    that argument cuts both ways...



    the fact is... STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE establishes it's baseline NOT from the games where Big 12 teams play other Big 12 teams, or SEC teams play other SEC teams... IT COMES FROM WHAT TEAMS DO OUT OF CONFERENCE!

    the reason the Big 12 is getting the benefit of the doubt is because their OOC performance has been better than anybody else's...


    there is no opinion involved in my end of the discussion... i couldn't care less which is the right side, as long as i know what that side is... i am in it to win it!  unlike you guys, who are trying to defend an UNTENABLE position, simply to protect your dogma...

    do you know what that is called in the real world:  FANATICISM!

     
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    Oh yeah, Ok St lost an away game.

    Bama lost at home.

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    Oh yeah, Ok St lost an away game.

    Bama lost at home.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:




    once again, typing words without actually saying anything... you should really look into THAT!

    Check my posts bitch, and ask around... You will learn from EVERYONE that I am one of the most logical Bama fans in the forum, and ALWAYS back my shit up with stats. 
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    once again, typing words without actually saying anything... you should really look into THAT!

    Check my posts bitch, and ask around... You will learn from EVERYONE that I am one of the most logical Bama fans in the forum, and ALWAYS back my shit up with stats. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hawk:

    I'll go with the polls

    and the computer

    and Sports Illustrated

    and the the tv ratings on CBS

    and the last 5 years

    by saying the SEC is NOT overrated

    They DELIVER THE GOODS



    Hawk... i am not talking about the last 5 years... i am talking about THIS year... what does last year have to do with this year?
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    I'll go with the polls

    and the computer

    and Sports Illustrated

    and the the tv ratings on CBS

    and the last 5 years

    by saying the SEC is NOT overrated

    They DELIVER THE GOODS



    Hawk... i am not talking about the last 5 years... i am talking about THIS year... what does last year have to do with this year?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

    wow!  there is nothing more ignorant than complete denial when faced with over-whelming evidence...

    you guys truly embarrass the fuck out of yourself...

    didn't see a single comment that was worthy of response beyond what i just said... sad state of affairs!


    u mad?
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    wow!  there is nothing more ignorant than complete denial when faced with over-whelming evidence...

    you guys truly embarrass the fuck out of yourself...

    didn't see a single comment that was worthy of response beyond what i just said... sad state of affairs!


    u mad?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:



    wow, dude!  you just fell into one of the biggest logical fallacies there is... Logic 101, day 1... this is known as "Affirming the Consequent"... or better known as "putting the cart before the horse"...



    you are basically saying... the SEC is better because the SEC teams have to play other SEC teams... and the Big 12 sucks because they get to play Big 12 teams...

    that argument cuts both ways...



    the fact is... STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE establishes it's baseline NOT from the games where Big 12 teams play other Big 12 teams, or SEC teams play other SEC teams... IT COMES FROM WHAT TEAMS DO OUT OF CONFERENCE!

    the reason the Big 12 is getting the benefit of the doubt is because their OOC performance has been better than anybody else's...


    there is no opinion involved in my end of the discussion... i couldn't care less which is the right side, as long as i know what that side is... i am in it to win it!  unlike you guys, who are trying to defend an UNTENABLE position, simply to protect your dogma...

    do you know what that is called in the real world:  FANATICISM!


    And how do you think these teams get these rankings? And SOS rankings? BY PLAYING IN WEAKER CONFERENCES AND BLOWING OUT WEAKER TEAMS WITH LESSER TALLENT. 

    The SEC is the best, toughest conference in THE NATION, and second to none. Deal with that, and quit dreaming. 


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    wow, dude!  you just fell into one of the biggest logical fallacies there is... Logic 101, day 1... this is known as "Affirming the Consequent"... or better known as "putting the cart before the horse"...



    you are basically saying... the SEC is better because the SEC teams have to play other SEC teams... and the Big 12 sucks because they get to play Big 12 teams...

    that argument cuts both ways...



    the fact is... STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE establishes it's baseline NOT from the games where Big 12 teams play other Big 12 teams, or SEC teams play other SEC teams... IT COMES FROM WHAT TEAMS DO OUT OF CONFERENCE!

    the reason the Big 12 is getting the benefit of the doubt is because their OOC performance has been better than anybody else's...


    there is no opinion involved in my end of the discussion... i couldn't care less which is the right side, as long as i know what that side is... i am in it to win it!  unlike you guys, who are trying to defend an UNTENABLE position, simply to protect your dogma...

    do you know what that is called in the real world:  FANATICISM!


    And how do you think these teams get these rankings? And SOS rankings? BY PLAYING IN WEAKER CONFERENCES AND BLOWING OUT WEAKER TEAMS WITH LESSER TALLENT. 

    The SEC is the best, toughest conference in THE NATION, and second to none. Deal with that, and quit dreaming. 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1969USC:

    Oh yeah, Ok St lost an away game.

    Bama lost at home.






    and another thing... Bama's most impressive win this year came at home, with only one quality road win (@ Penn St)... only 2 quality wins this season... Oklahoma St had 4 quality wins on the road, and 2 at home... and, have a chance to get a 7th quality win this week...


    pure and simple... Bama's resume does not stack up!
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    Oh yeah, Ok St lost an away game.

    Bama lost at home.






    and another thing... Bama's most impressive win this year came at home, with only one quality road win (@ Penn St)... only 2 quality wins this season... Oklahoma St had 4 quality wins on the road, and 2 at home... and, have a chance to get a 7th quality win this week...


    pure and simple... Bama's resume does not stack up!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:


    Check my posts bitch, and ask around... You will learn from EVERYONE that I am one of the most logical Bama fans in the forum, and ALWAYS back my shit up with stats. 



    not only have i seen your posts... i have seen what other people think of your posts...

    nuff said!
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    Check my posts bitch, and ask around... You will learn from EVERYONE that I am one of the most logical Bama fans in the forum, and ALWAYS back my shit up with stats. 



    not only have i seen your posts... i have seen what other people think of your posts...

    nuff said!
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:



    u mad?



    mad that i live in a world where truth and reality have no value, and ignorance is more common than the cold?

    yes... you should be, too!


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    u mad?



    mad that i live in a world where truth and reality have no value, and ignorance is more common than the cold?

    yes... you should be, too!


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