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    Ice4Blood
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 1:31 PM ET #1

    that's all!


    i've been looking into this more and more, and blown away by what i see... people who think Alabama gets extra points for playing in the SEC are so full of shit i can smell them from here...

    i will elaborate on this at some point... beware, if you try to debate this, i will fucking expose you! 

    Alabama's schedule this year is a fucking joke!  how many bye weeks did they get, as compared to Oklahoma St?

    ridiculous... you guys pimping the SEC are fucking clueless!
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    that's all!


    i've been looking into this more and more, and blown away by what i see... people who think Alabama gets extra points for playing in the SEC are so full of shit i can smell them from here...

    i will elaborate on this at some point... beware, if you try to debate this, i will fucking expose you! 

    Alabama's schedule this year is a fucking joke!  how many bye weeks did they get, as compared to Oklahoma St?

    ridiculous... you guys pimping the SEC are fucking clueless!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 1:39 PM ET #2

    VOTERS... you have an obligation to put Oklahoma St over Alabama in ALL polls if OSU wins...

    if you do not, you are killing any possible integrity that your "precious" BCS system has... which is VERY LITTLE to begin with...
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    VOTERS... you have an obligation to put Oklahoma St over Alabama in ALL polls if OSU wins...

    if you do not, you are killing any possible integrity that your "precious" BCS system has... which is VERY LITTLE to begin with...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 1:43 PM ET #3

    Alabama (6 BYE WEEKS)... that means 6 times this year they didn't have to get up for their game... SIX FUCKING BYE WEEKS!!!!... without Bray, Tennessee was a bye week... with him, maybe they need to worry, but without Bray, that was a week off!  Bama played a whopping 4 teams that rank in the top 30...


    Oklahoma St (3 BYE WEEKS)... and not one of them came in the final 6 weeks of the CFB season... every other team OSU played ranks in the top 30 of CFB's power rankings...




    argue this, because i have more... you want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes?

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    Alabama (6 BYE WEEKS)... that means 6 times this year they didn't have to get up for their game... SIX FUCKING BYE WEEKS!!!!... without Bray, Tennessee was a bye week... with him, maybe they need to worry, but without Bray, that was a week off!  Bama played a whopping 4 teams that rank in the top 30...


    Oklahoma St (3 BYE WEEKS)... and not one of them came in the final 6 weeks of the CFB season... every other team OSU played ranks in the top 30 of CFB's power rankings...




    argue this, because i have more... you want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes?

     
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    resume of Alabama's "bye week" opponents...


    Kent St (#125)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: Bowling Green (#103)

    No Texas (#129)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: ULM (#131)

    Vandy (#39)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: Wake (#71)

    Ol Miss (#108)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: Fresno (#100)

    *Tennessee (#51)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: Cincy (#36)

    Georgia Southern... don't think i need to go into this one, other than to point out in came in the final 2 weeks of the year...




    points to note:  Tennessee win came with no Bray for UT... without Bray, UT was less than nothing... not a single one of those 6 teams ranks in the top 50, and not a single one of them has what can truly be considered an "impressive win" (i.e. vs. top 30 opponent)...

    the closest thing any of those teams have to a quality win is UTs win over Cincy in week 2...


    now watch me show you their non bye-weeks... this is the one that will REALLY shock you... when you see that even their quality wins came against teams that had ZERO quality wins all year...

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    resume of Alabama's "bye week" opponents...


    Kent St (#125)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: Bowling Green (#103)

    No Texas (#129)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: ULM (#131)

    Vandy (#39)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: Wake (#71)

    Ol Miss (#108)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: Fresno (#100)

    *Tennessee (#51)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: Cincy (#36)

    Georgia Southern... don't think i need to go into this one, other than to point out in came in the final 2 weeks of the year...




    points to note:  Tennessee win came with no Bray for UT... without Bray, UT was less than nothing... not a single one of those 6 teams ranks in the top 50, and not a single one of them has what can truly be considered an "impressive win" (i.e. vs. top 30 opponent)...

    the closest thing any of those teams have to a quality win is UTs win over Cincy in week 2...


    now watch me show you their non bye-weeks... this is the one that will REALLY shock you... when you see that even their quality wins came against teams that had ZERO quality wins all year...

     
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    cOOl essay I'll give you a C-.
































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    cOOl essay I'll give you a C-.
































    Nobody cares
     
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    resume of Oklahoma State's "bye week" oppoonents:


    UL Laf (#87)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: FIU (#89)

    Arizona (#63)... quality wins: 0... most impresisve wins: Ariz St (#35), UCLA (#51)

    Kansas (#88)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: NIU (#58)



    Jesus!  even OSU's bye week opponents make Alabama's schedule look pathetic...
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    resume of Oklahoma State's "bye week" oppoonents:


    UL Laf (#87)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: FIU (#89)

    Arizona (#63)... quality wins: 0... most impresisve wins: Ariz St (#35), UCLA (#51)

    Kansas (#88)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win: NIU (#58)



    Jesus!  even OSU's bye week opponents make Alabama's schedule look pathetic...
     
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    the shit gets deeper!


    stay tuned Laroja... i LOVE seeing you in here...
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    the shit gets deeper!


    stay tuned Laroja... i LOVE seeing you in here...
     
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    now how about we take a look at some of the so-called "quality wins" on Alabama's schedule...


    Penn St (#25)... quality wins: 0... most impressive wins: Ohio St (#41), Iowa (#42), Temple (#51)

    Arkansas (#7)... quality wins: 2 (Tx A&M: #12, So Car: #15)... most impressive other wins: Miss St (#31), Auburn (#34)

    Miss St (#31)... quality wins: 0 (not even close)... most impressive win: La Tech! (#46)

    Auburn (#34)... quality wins: 1 (So Car: #15)... most impressive other wins: Miss St (#31), Florida (#33)



    i think the funniest thing is that the most impressive win that ANY team on Alabama's schedule had this year... came against #12 Tx A&M... A FUCKING BIG 12 TEAM!


    HA!
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    now how about we take a look at some of the so-called "quality wins" on Alabama's schedule...


    Penn St (#25)... quality wins: 0... most impressive wins: Ohio St (#41), Iowa (#42), Temple (#51)

    Arkansas (#7)... quality wins: 2 (Tx A&M: #12, So Car: #15)... most impressive other wins: Miss St (#31), Auburn (#34)

    Miss St (#31)... quality wins: 0 (not even close)... most impressive win: La Tech! (#46)

    Auburn (#34)... quality wins: 1 (So Car: #15)... most impressive other wins: Miss St (#31), Florida (#33)



    i think the funniest thing is that the most impressive win that ANY team on Alabama's schedule had this year... came against #12 Tx A&M... A FUCKING BIG 12 TEAM!


    HA!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

     




    reading is fundamental, dude!  thinking doesn't hurt, either... give it a shot!  i'm am making a case that is ROCK SOLID!  i fucking dare you to try to debate me on this...
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    reading is fundamental, dude!  thinking doesn't hurt, either... give it a shot!  i'm am making a case that is ROCK SOLID!  i fucking dare you to try to debate me on this...
     
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    now... OSU's quality wins... remembering that, OSU still has a game to play against the #4 team (in terms of power rankings) in CFB... and before you go bashing Oklahoma... their schedule this year was insane, and they have done a pretty fucking good job with it...

    7-1 against the Top 30... no team in the SEC has won even 4 games against the top 30... including LSU!
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    now... OSU's quality wins... remembering that, OSU still has a game to play against the #4 team (in terms of power rankings) in CFB... and before you go bashing Oklahoma... their schedule this year was insane, and they have done a pretty fucking good job with it...

    7-1 against the Top 30... no team in the SEC has won even 4 games against the top 30... including LSU!
     
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    oh yea... that "impressive" win by Arkansas... not that impressive...

    42-38 at home... needing a big 2nd half comeback against what we know is one of the most poorly coached teams in CFB...


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    oh yea... that "impressive" win by Arkansas... not that impressive...

    42-38 at home... needing a big 2nd half comeback against what we know is one of the most poorly coached teams in CFB...


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:




    reading is fundamental, dude!  thinking doesn't hurt, either... give it a shot!  i'm am making a case that is ROCK SOLID!  i fucking dare you to try to debate me on this...

    don't care to debate anyone on the subject, you are entitled to your opinion as i am entitled to my opinion that lsu and bama are the two best teams by far. But i am wrong a lot, so you could be right  

    and i do know how to read and think outside the box as well. Your thread just made me laugh, that's all. 

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    reading is fundamental, dude!  thinking doesn't hurt, either... give it a shot!  i'm am making a case that is ROCK SOLID!  i fucking dare you to try to debate me on this...

    don't care to debate anyone on the subject, you are entitled to your opinion as i am entitled to my opinion that lsu and bama are the two best teams by far. But i am wrong a lot, so you could be right  

    and i do know how to read and think outside the box as well. Your thread just made me laugh, that's all. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 2:28 PM ET #14

    you make a compelling case...... AND I AM A SEC HOMER ! ! !

    OkSt to the National Championship game.

    Let Stanford and Va Tech duke it out for the 3-4  position

    and put Alabama  against that crafty Houston  quarterback.... Let's  just  see how  good  that Bama defense is...... Bama wouldnt win  on  field goals alone.

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    you make a compelling case...... AND I AM A SEC HOMER ! ! !

    OkSt to the National Championship game.

    Let Stanford and Va Tech duke it out for the 3-4  position

    and put Alabama  against that crafty Houston  quarterback.... Let's  just  see how  good  that Bama defense is...... Bama wouldnt win  on  field goals alone.

     
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    If anyone wants to know who has the tougher conference and who had played the toughest schedule it doesn't get much easier than look at the top 10 SOS in the Sag ratings.

    1. Kansas

    2. A&M

    3. Iowa State

    4. Texas

    5. Missouri

    6.Baylor

    7.Tech

    8. Ok State

    9.Kstate

    10. OU

    The entire top 10 is the Big XII. If OSU beats OU which they haven't in 8 years they will have beaten 8 out of 9 of those teams. Alabama has beaten only 2 teams in the top 30. Arkansas and Penn State and nobody thinks Penn State is anywhere close to being legit. This is a non-biased as you can get. Like I said Bama had that game gift wrapped for them and got beat and now they think they can win AT LSU. They will shut down Richardson like they did in the 2nd half and make Bama Qb beat them and we say that ain't happening not even close.

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    If anyone wants to know who has the tougher conference and who had played the toughest schedule it doesn't get much easier than look at the top 10 SOS in the Sag ratings.

    1. Kansas

    2. A&M

    3. Iowa State

    4. Texas

    5. Missouri

    6.Baylor

    7.Tech

    8. Ok State

    9.Kstate

    10. OU

    The entire top 10 is the Big XII. If OSU beats OU which they haven't in 8 years they will have beaten 8 out of 9 of those teams. Alabama has beaten only 2 teams in the top 30. Arkansas and Penn State and nobody thinks Penn State is anywhere close to being legit. This is a non-biased as you can get. Like I said Bama had that game gift wrapped for them and got beat and now they think they can win AT LSU. They will shut down Richardson like they did in the 2nd half and make Bama Qb beat them and we say that ain't happening not even close.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 2:35 PM ET #16

    Oklahoma St...


    Tulsa (#27)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win (SMU: #68)

    Tx A&M (#12)... quality wins: 2 (Baylor, Iowa St)... most impressive other wins: (Tx Tech, SMU: #68

    Texas (#14)... quality wins: 2 (A&M, Iowa St)... most impressive other wins: Tx Tech, BYU (#42), UCLA (#45)

    Missouri (#18)... quality wins: 3 (A&M, Texas, Iowa St)... most impressive other wins: Tx Tech

    Baylor (#16)... quality wins: 4 (OU: #4, TCU: #21, Missou, Iowa St)... most impressive other wins: Tx Tech

    Kansas St (#11)... quality wins: 4 (A&M, Texas, Missou, Baylor)... most impressive other wins: Tx Tech, Miami (#47)

    Tx Tech (#44)... quality wins: 1 (OU: #4)... most impressive other win: Nevada (#67)

    Iowa St (#29)... quality wins: 1 (OSU #3)... most impressive other win: Tx Tech
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    Oklahoma St...


    Tulsa (#27)... quality wins: 0... most impressive win (SMU: #68)

    Tx A&M (#12)... quality wins: 2 (Baylor, Iowa St)... most impressive other wins: (Tx Tech, SMU: #68

    Texas (#14)... quality wins: 2 (A&M, Iowa St)... most impressive other wins: Tx Tech, BYU (#42), UCLA (#45)

    Missouri (#18)... quality wins: 3 (A&M, Texas, Iowa St)... most impressive other wins: Tx Tech

    Baylor (#16)... quality wins: 4 (OU: #4, TCU: #21, Missou, Iowa St)... most impressive other wins: Tx Tech

    Kansas St (#11)... quality wins: 4 (A&M, Texas, Missou, Baylor)... most impressive other wins: Tx Tech, Miami (#47)

    Tx Tech (#44)... quality wins: 1 (OU: #4)... most impressive other win: Nevada (#67)

    Iowa St (#29)... quality wins: 1 (OSU #3)... most impressive other win: Tx Tech
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 2:39 PM ET #17

    here's your bottom line, and the point of this thread...


    SEC knob-gobblers always use the argument that you don't get a week off if you play in the SEC... but clearly, that is a flat out lie!  it is a myth...

    S.O.S. is the reason most of the Big 12 teams are ranked as high as they are in the power ratings, and one could use the argument that... if all the Big 12 teams suck, then who cares that they beat up on each other...

    the point is... all of those teams have wins that are more impressive than the resumes of the teams Bama has beaten (as a collective work)... and all of those teams are a threat to beat you on a given Saturday if you take them lightly and don't come to play...

    OSU played 6 straight top 30 teams to end the year... while Alabama scheduled GEORGIA SOUTHERN in their 2nd to last week of the season...



    screw the fucking SEC... they are sooooooo overrated it's ridiculous... AND, if OSU wins (still a big IF)... and we end up with LSU - Bama in the NC game...

    anybody still fighting for the BCS system needs to either lay down their weapons and surrender... or you admit that you are not interested in a rational argument other this situation, and are simply holding onto your dogmatic beliefs, despite all evidence pointing against it!
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    here's your bottom line, and the point of this thread...


    SEC knob-gobblers always use the argument that you don't get a week off if you play in the SEC... but clearly, that is a flat out lie!  it is a myth...

    S.O.S. is the reason most of the Big 12 teams are ranked as high as they are in the power ratings, and one could use the argument that... if all the Big 12 teams suck, then who cares that they beat up on each other...

    the point is... all of those teams have wins that are more impressive than the resumes of the teams Bama has beaten (as a collective work)... and all of those teams are a threat to beat you on a given Saturday if you take them lightly and don't come to play...

    OSU played 6 straight top 30 teams to end the year... while Alabama scheduled GEORGIA SOUTHERN in their 2nd to last week of the season...



    screw the fucking SEC... they are sooooooo overrated it's ridiculous... AND, if OSU wins (still a big IF)... and we end up with LSU - Bama in the NC game...

    anybody still fighting for the BCS system needs to either lay down their weapons and surrender... or you admit that you are not interested in a rational argument other this situation, and are simply holding onto your dogmatic beliefs, despite all evidence pointing against it!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    don't care to debate anyone on the subject, you are entitled to your opinion as i am entitled to my opinion that lsu and bama are the two best teams by far. But i am wrong a lot, so you could be right  

    and i do know how to read and think outside the box as well. Your thread just made me laugh, that's all. 




    on the field of battle, your point (in bold) is difficult to debate, one way or another... you may be right!

    BUT... isn't the BCS system supposed to be looking at body of work, and not just "who we all know is the best"?  because, if we are doing the latter, why not just go back to the old system of letting people vote the 2 best teams in...

    right now it's a composite system, so it depends largely on the ability of voters to make an EDUCATED decision... and i do believe what i have shown here, is that most of us are not really looking at the evidence before us, but simply going by what is largely a myth...




    cool! 
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    don't care to debate anyone on the subject, you are entitled to your opinion as i am entitled to my opinion that lsu and bama are the two best teams by far. But i am wrong a lot, so you could be right  

    and i do know how to read and think outside the box as well. Your thread just made me laugh, that's all. 




    on the field of battle, your point (in bold) is difficult to debate, one way or another... you may be right!

    BUT... isn't the BCS system supposed to be looking at body of work, and not just "who we all know is the best"?  because, if we are doing the latter, why not just go back to the old system of letting people vote the 2 best teams in...

    right now it's a composite system, so it depends largely on the ability of voters to make an EDUCATED decision... and i do believe what i have shown here, is that most of us are not really looking at the evidence before us, but simply going by what is largely a myth...




    cool! 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by archdriver:

    and put Alabama  against that crafty Houston  quarterback.... Let's  just  see how  good  that Bama defense is...... Bama wouldnt win  on  field goals alone.



    that would be a fun game to watch... Alabama would probably kill them, but it would be fun to see how the most prolific offense would fare against that defense...
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    and put Alabama  against that crafty Houston  quarterback.... Let's  just  see how  good  that Bama defense is...... Bama wouldnt win  on  field goals alone.



    that would be a fun game to watch... Alabama would probably kill them, but it would be fun to see how the most prolific offense would fare against that defense...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 2:44 PM ET #20

    if you want to cut to the chase with all of this information... simply read #17... that's your bottom-line, as indicated by the preponderance of evidence...


    that's all i have to say...


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    if you want to cut to the chase with all of this information... simply read #17... that's your bottom-line, as indicated by the preponderance of evidence...


    that's all i have to say...


     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2011 - 3:18 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:



    Nobody cares



    yes, Laroja... everybody knows that you don't care about truth, reality or common sense... thanks for the feedback!
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    Nobody cares



    yes, Laroja... everybody knows that you don't care about truth, reality or common sense... thanks for the feedback!
     
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    Wow you are spending way too much time on this bro. Quit trying to pretend the Big 12 is great with all your so called quality wins put out beside the teams. What a joke. Dont know what you will be doing on Jan 9th but I will be watching the 2 best teams in the country play. LSU and Alabama. Deal with it. SEC hater. 6 in a row!!!!!
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    Wow you are spending way too much time on this bro. Quit trying to pretend the Big 12 is great with all your so called quality wins put out beside the teams. What a joke. Dont know what you will be doing on Jan 9th but I will be watching the 2 best teams in the country play. LSU and Alabama. Deal with it. SEC hater. 6 in a row!!!!!
     
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    Let me ask you this... If Ok st goes to the national championship, and gets blown out by LSU. and ONCE AGAIN the SEC dominates all the bowl games they play, will you then shut your mouth? 

    I am thinking no.. Because they have done it for the past 5 years in a row, and there is always ONE idiot like you who is so delusional that you think that THIS is the big year when it will all turn around. It never happens, and it won't this year, so just give it a rest man. Geezus you are making yourself look dumb. 
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    Let me ask you this... If Ok st goes to the national championship, and gets blown out by LSU. and ONCE AGAIN the SEC dominates all the bowl games they play, will you then shut your mouth? 

    I am thinking no.. Because they have done it for the past 5 years in a row, and there is always ONE idiot like you who is so delusional that you think that THIS is the big year when it will all turn around. It never happens, and it won't this year, so just give it a rest man. Geezus you are making yourself look dumb. 
     
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    Tappy, LSU will win against anyone they play in the NC.....not just OSU.  LSU would give the Indy Colts a game. 

    These post go away with a College Football playoff system.....and yes....the SEC will win more playoff games than any other conference.

     

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    Tappy, LSU will win against anyone they play in the NC.....not just OSU.  LSU would give the Indy Colts a game. 

    These post go away with a College Football playoff system.....and yes....the SEC will win more playoff games than any other conference.

     

     
     
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    I like how he's so adamant about this; like he can't go to sleep unless he convinces everybody. A very sad affair indeed.
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    I like how he's so adamant about this; like he can't go to sleep unless he convinces everybody. A very sad affair indeed.
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