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Dblduce5178

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 8:34 PM ET #226

Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

no sense to argue with SEC homers.. they think the conference is the best even if the actual stats support just the opposite.. that outside Bama and LSU, theres Hogs, UGA and maybe SC and a bunch of piss..

5-7 Tennessee being called a 'quality' win...

5 crystal balls in a row makes me a believer....

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 8:46 PM ET #227

Quote Originally Posted by Dblduce5178:

5 crystal balls in a row makes me a believer....

Boise St

quit living in the past dude.. LSU is a beast.. but the SEC as a whole is a joke..

and I don't care about Boise.. funny that you think I do though

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 8:49 PM ET #228

Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

NewDarkDay-

Wrong- this thread title is about the SEC being overrated

when yoour conference has won 5 BCS titles in a row it pretty much makes the argument that SEC is overrated wrong and makes the people supporting the SEC is overrated look pretty damn stupid

Ice4Blood

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 8:49 PM ET #229

Quote Originally Posted by Dblduce5178:

that game was in Arlington at Jerry's World by the way...you also say that everybody in the fucking Big 12 whooped up on that team but yet on page 1 you call the Okie St's win over them a quality win....

what the fuck???

get your shit straight man....

my shit is as straight as straight gets! come up with an argument... something! then talk...

Tx A&M counts as a quality win because of their power ranking in the Sagarin ratings... even if you take them off the list, we still have a long long way to go until we get down where Alabama's schedule is...

you need to do more than just knock off one little chip of my concrete argument to turn yours into anything more than a mud-pile...

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 8:55 PM ET #230

Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

Arkansas won 42-38 at home vs. Texas A&M... odds give 3.5 to 4 points for homefield advantage... this game was a dog fight and came down to the last possession...

everything about this game says that, on a neutral field, if they play 100 times, this series go 50-50... those teams are a fucking dead-ringer for each other...

and here you guys are constantly appealing to the eye test, and yet you don't know that Tx A&M and Arkansas are separated by maybe 1 point at the most... you don't see that, but are here trying to exert some kind of authority by saying people who've been here since 2011 are just as credible as people from 2006...

what the FUCK has Arkansas done this year that is impressive?

so what's your point?

Arkansas has done nothing thats not the point hes saying oklahoma st,and Arkansas are equals,and those 2 teams being equals tells me he his saying Alabama,and LSU are miles ahead of Oklahoma St ,as i have been saying in other posts put oklahoma st in the SEC and they are a 3rd place team at best,put alabama in the Big12 and Alabama wins the big 12 so how anyway can say SEC is overrated is beyond me when the top 2 teams in your conference would win every conference in the nation which says LSU,and Bama are 2 best teams in nation and should play for BCS title the end little boy

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 8:56 PM ET #231

Quote Originally Posted by NewDarkDay:

when yoour conference has won 5 BCS titles in a row it pretty much makes the argument that SEC is overrated wrong and makes the people supporting the SEC is overrated look pretty damn stupid

Not saying LSU isn't the best team.. they clearly are..

But its quite annoying when SEC fans just say 5 straight BCS titles as justification as to why the conference is the best.. even though clearly, top to bottom, it's filled with mediocrity after the first 4 maybe 5 teams..

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:00 PM ET #232

Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:

my shit is as straight as straight gets! come up with an argument... something! then talk...

Tx A&M counts as a quality win because of their power ranking in the Sagarin ratings... even if you take them off the list, we still have a long long way to go until we get down where Alabama's schedule is...

Texas A& M is average they are coming to Sec next year and i see them being in middle of the SEC

you need to do more than just knock off one little chip of my concrete argument to turn yours into anything more than a mud-pile...

NewDarkDay

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:05 PM ET #233

Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

Not saying LSU isn't the best team.. they clearly are..

But its quite annoying when SEC fans just say 5 straight BCS titles as justification as to why the conference is the best.. even though clearly, top to bottom, it's filled with mediocrity after the first 4 maybe 5 teams..

Every Conference is filled with mediocrity after 4 or 5 teams,the problem is no other conference dont have 2 powerhouses like LSU,and Alabama

Ice4Blood

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:08 PM ET #234

Quote Originally Posted by DizBSpeedy:

"SEC is SOOOOO overrated!" statements like this is just, what Carlos Mencia would say... "reeetarrrrded!"

I didn't even have to read you're posts to know that this thread was REEETARRRDED!

how can something that's good, be overrated? REEETARRRRED!

I guess Brady, Rodgers & Brees are overrated too?... let's look at their so call "bye weeks"... let's not, and say we did cause if we did it'll just be... REEETARRRRDED!

maybe you just like riding okla st $#!@ too much, and you're clueless?.

should we put it to a vote?

i love the comment in red, in particular... here i am saying these people are brain-washed, and he comes right out and admits it, by saying there is no reason to actually listen to my argument, since he already knows it is wrong...

i sure as hell hope you aren't a scientist...

Ice4Blood

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:09 PM ET #235

Quote Originally Posted by NewDarkDay:

Texas A& M is average they are coming to Sec next year and i see them being in middle of the SEC

we are not talking about next year, and we are not talking about the last 5 years...

why is it that anybody trying to support the SEC keeps having to refer to anything EXCEPT this year's results?

jgo22

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:29 PM ET #236

fade them in bowl games you will win

DirtySuh22

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:32 PM ET #237

Yes I registered solely to comment on this thread. Anyways, look at ANY of the BCS computer conference rankings and they all have the Big 12 ranked above the SEC. FACT. So to anyone making the SEC out to be some meat grinder of a conference that will "destroy" anybody it plays against, you're WRONG.

The SEC has 2 good, perhaps great teams in Alabama and LSU. They already played eachother, in Tuscaloosa, and Bama got beat. You had your shot Bama, in your own house, and you blew it. Plain and simple. Putting LSU up against Alabama for the NC would be a disservice to everyone outside of the SEC. I mean, the objective of bowl games is to match up teams from different conferences against each other. This should not exclude the NC.

Here's the deal, if OKST beats OU this weekend, they DESERVE to be in the title game. If they lose, then Stanford should go. Both teams can compete against LSU, if the BCS would just give them a frickin chance. Just because some people say "LSU WILL DESTROY ANYONE BESIDES ALABAMA LOLZ" does not make it so. Again, Alabama had their shot, and they lost.

End of discussion

kokoyono23

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:32 PM ET #238

The WV coach is awful. The S. Florida weakness is the secondary, but he runs the ball more than he has all season. This guy thinks he is smarter than he is. He should stay in the casinos and keep drinking.

tideman

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:40 PM ET #239

Ok so if the SEC is overrated, lets break it down into wins and losses between the SEC and Big 12

SEC Big 12

1. LSU 12-0 1. Ok State 10-1

2. Bama 11-1 2. Oklahoma 9-2

3. Arky 10-2 3. Kansas State 9-2

4. Ga 10-2 4. Baylor 8-3

5. USC 10-2 5. Mizzou 7-5

6. Auburn 7-5 6 Texas 7-4

7. Miss State 6-6 7. A&M 6-6

8. Fla 6-6 8. Iowa St 6-5

9. Vandy 6-6 9. Tx Tech 5-7

10. Kentucky 5-7 10. Kansas 2-10

11. Tenn 5-7

12. Ole Miss 2-10

Everyone keeps saying that after the SEC's top 4 or 5 teams, that the rest are garbage... Look above to see the mighty Big 12's awesome lineup.

Below is the SEC's average wins and losses compared to Big 12.. and since the SEC has more teams, I have taken off LSU, who has the best record, and Ole Miss, who has the worst.

SEC 76 wins 44 losses

Big 12 69 wins 45 losses

Now you all can continue your discussion about how overrated the SEC is, and that the Big 12 is the best conference...

Lucan

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:47 PM ET #240

Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

SatNIghtFever-

It's useless to argue with those two Alabama homers. They refuse to believe that LSU beat them fair and square. Last time i looked, special teams and coaching was part of being a "team". Yet they still cry and complain in a bunch of threads about how Alabama should have won that game. They also spout non-sense about how the SEC is so superior. That is such bullshit and i am a SEC supporter. The conference is way down this year, yet they refuse to believe it. For years i bashed they Pac-10 and their style of football but with Oregon, USC, and Stanford, they have three very strong teams, Same with the Big 12. Ultimately i think LSU and Alabama could beat most of those teams, but as a conference the SEC is down this year. They also refuse to believe that Alabama's defense played a bunch of sorry offensive teams this year and that helped pad those statistics. They just rant and rave about how good their team and the SEC is and when they can't have it their way they will just start calling you names and cussing you out like a couple of 12 year old kids. I really want to see the rematch and see LSU kick Alabama's ass so these two can STFU!!! But they will probably still make excuses about how the Superdome is a home game for LSU even though they know that it is not. Until then i woudn't even waste my time trying to discuss the game with those two homers.

Blowout... is the biggest LSU Blowhard

usmabama

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:48 PM ET #241

I stopped reading all the threads....so I'm not sure if anyone made a decent argument. I have friends from all conferences and I hear this argument all most every year. Look at the bowl records last year, when people were saying the same shit, Big 12 3-5 (with one win against UCONN!!! in a BCS game). The SEC went 5-3 (6-2 if you take away Ohio St vacated win) and we had two teams in a BCS game...basically bumping our teams down one in each bowl. I mean our "#2" tie-in was really our #3 team in the conference (so we were facing other conferences higher seeds....look at the bowl tie-ins), because we had two teams playing in a BCS. It'll be the same this year....like always. Good argument and I'm obviously biased because I want Bama to play in the BCSNC, but face it...the SEC is the best conference.

Lucan

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:49 PM ET #242

Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

Ok so if the SEC is overrated, lets break it down into wins and losses between the SEC and Big 12

SEC Big 12

1. LSU 12-0 1. Ok State 10-1

2. Bama 11-1 2. Oklahoma 9-2

3. Arky 10-2 3. Kansas State 9-2

4. Ga 10-2 4. Baylor 8-3

5. USC 10-2 5. Mizzou 7-5

6. Auburn 7-5 6 Texas 7-4

7. Miss State 6-6 7. A&M 6-6

8. Fla 6-6 8. Iowa St 6-5

9. Vandy 6-6 9. Tx Tech 5-7

10. Kentucky 5-7 10. Kansas 2-10

11. Tenn 5-7

12. Ole Miss 2-10

Everyone keeps saying that after the SEC's top 4 or 5 teams, that the rest are garbage... Look above to see the mighty Big 12's awesome lineup.

Below is the SEC's average wins and losses compared to Big 12.. and since the SEC has more teams, I have taken off LSU, who has the best record, and Ole Miss, who has the worst.

SEC 76 wins 44 losses

Big 12 69 wins 45 losses

Now you all can continue your discussion about how overrated the SEC is, and that the Big 12 is the best conference...

Thank you...case closed

usmabama

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:52 PM ET #243

Let me also say...Althought I think Bama and LSU really are the best two teams in the country, if I wasnt a Bama fan I would want to see a rematch...I'd want to give the pokes or the hokies a chance.

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 9:53 PM ET #244

Quote Originally Posted by usmabama:

Let me also say...Althought I think Bama and LSU really are the best two teams in the country, if I wasnt a Bama fan I would want to see a rematch...I'd want to give the pokes or the hokies a chance.

I *wouldnt want to see a rematch...

blowoutgm

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 10:03 PM ET #245

Lucan-

I'm just a realist- not a delusional fanboy with my team like you are with the Tide. So STFU since LSU beat Alabama's ass! Deal with it you little crybaby- Act like a man like Tideman instead of crying like a little girl and typing in big caps- It makes you look like the loser you are-

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 10:11 PM ET #246

Quote Originally Posted by tideman:

Ok so if the SEC is overrated, lets break it down into wins and losses between the SEC and Big 12

SEC Big 12

1. LSU 12-0 1. Ok State 10-1

2. Bama 11-1 2. Oklahoma 9-2

3. Arky 10-2 3. Kansas State 9-2

4. Ga 10-2 4. Baylor 8-3

5. USC 10-2 5. Mizzou 7-5

6. Auburn 7-5 6 Texas 7-4

7. Miss State 6-6 7. A&M 6-6

8. Fla 6-6 8. Iowa St 6-5

9. Vandy 6-6 9. Tx Tech 5-7

10. Kentucky 5-7 10. Kansas 2-10

11. Tenn 5-7

12. Ole Miss 2-10

Everyone keeps saying that after the SEC's top 4 or 5 teams, that the rest are garbage... Look above to see the mighty Big 12's awesome lineup.

Below is the SEC's average wins and losses compared to Big 12.. and since the SEC has

=more teams, I have taken off LSU, who has the best record, and Ole Miss, who has the worst.

SEC 76 wins 44 losses

Big 12 69 wins 45 losses

Now you all can continue your discussion about how overrated the SEC is, and that the Big 12 is the best conference...

first.. hard to go straight by wins and losses.. since when does the SEC play actual OOC games outside LSU?

2nd, you have A&M ranked #7 in the B12 but it took a 2 TD comeback in the final 6 minutes for the #3 SEC team to beat them on a neutral field..

3rd- if you line those teams up to face each other.. I would take the B12 in 6 of them.. OU, Baylor, Texas, A&M, ISU, Tech.. though I would move 6-6 A&M up and take them over SC as well, making the only advantage the SEC has would be LSU, UGA and Kentucky..

like we've been saying.. very strong at the top.. just awful after team 5.. and pretty weak at #4 and #5 as well..

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 10:38 PM ET #247

Quote Originally Posted by SatNightFever05:

first.. hard to go straight by wins and losses.. since when does the SEC play actual OOC games outside LSU?

2nd, you have A&M ranked #7 in the B12 but it took a 2 TD comeback in the final 6 minutes for the #3 SEC team to beat them on a neutral field..

3rd- if you line those teams up to face each other.. I would take the B12 in 6 of them.. OU, Baylor, Texas, A&M, ISU, Tech.. though I would move 6-6 A&M up and take them over SC as well, making the only advantage the SEC has would be LSU, UGA and Kentucky..

like we've been saying.. very strong at the top.. just awful after team 5.. and pretty weak at #4 and #5 as well..

there is no doubt that the SEC has had a down year overall, and even though I was a little surprised of the result of Miss States season ( thought they would have been better)Lets be honest... Vandy and Kentucky will always be Vandy and Kentucky... The gators gets a pass this year with new coaching staff... you yourself know that they won't be down long... Dooley was a mistake at Tennessee, and Houston Nutt was just awful. The SEC like every other conference is and always will be top heavy.

As far as out of conference scheduling.. I am having a difficult time in seeing many heavy hitters on the Big 12 schedules

Okie State- La Laff, Arizona, and Tulsa

Oklahoma- Tulsa, FSU and Ball State

A&M - SMU.Idaho and Arkansas

Mizzou - Miami Ohio, Ariz St and Western Illinois

Texas - Rice, BYU and UCLA

Baylor - TCU, Stephen F Austin and Rice

Tx Tech - texas State, New Mexico and Nevada

Kansas State- Eastern Kentucky, Kent State, Miami

Iowa State - Northern Iowa, Iowa, and Uconn

Kansas - Mcneese State, Northern Illinois, and Ga Tech

Please show me where their OOC schedule is so much stronger

tideman

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 10:50 PM ET #248

SEC OOC schedule

South Carolina - East Carolina, Navy, Citadel and Clemson

Florida- FAU, UAB, Furman, and FSU

Georgia - Boise, Coastal Carolina, New Mex St, and Ga Tech

Tennessee- Montana, Cincy, Buffalo, and Mid Tenn

Kentucky - W Kent, Cent Mich, Louisville, and JSU

Vandy- Elon, Uconn, Army and Wake Forest

LSU - Oregon, NW St, West Virg and W Kent

Bama - Kent St, Penn St, North Tex and Ga Southern

Arky - Mizz St, New Mex, Troy and A&M

MSU - Memphis, La tech, UAB and Tenn Martin

Auburn - Utah St, Clemson, FAU and Samford

Ole Miss- BYU, S Illinois, Fresno State, and La Tech

Don't see a difference

SatNightFever05

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 10:56 PM ET #249

Tide- yea, wasn't trying to compare B12 to SEC... but at least you seem to agree that this year's SEC is down quite a bit and if I remember, last year's was down a bit as well..

Not saying UF, Tenn, Miss St won't get better- I"m sure they will.. but this is as weak I am remember after the top 3-4 teams overall in terms of the SEC

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Posted: Dec. 1, 2011 - 11:37 PM ET #250

Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

Lucan-

You or the biggest bullshitting no football fan knowing bitch i know, when you sober up then you will see LSU didn't beat Alabama's ass, they won in overtime because the overtime rule placed the ball in field goal range dumbass...

See there you go kissing somebodys ass again, now go clean the shit off you're nose.

Look at my avater and you will know what me and Nick Saban thinks about you Blowhard. Cap that and stick it were the sun don't shine.

And last i could give a rats ass about LSU winning that game, but what does pissed me off is you dogging Alabama girly....we will see who wins the next game, you know it will not be LSU, they can't get in the endzone against Alabama...

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