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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 8:40 PM ET #1

    lord ..if you are running a just world. let the plane crash on the way to southern cal. ...well maybe we can at least stay off probation.. how do the 8 or 10 guys that just enrolled early feel? thank god they did.
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    lord ..if you are running a just world. let the plane crash on the way to southern cal. ...well maybe we can at least stay off probation.. how do the 8 or 10 guys that just enrolled early feel? thank god they did.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 8:52 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 8:54 PM ET #3

    A plane crash works.
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    A plane crash works.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 9:01 PM ET #4

    Talk about a "flight" risk................
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    Talk about a "flight" risk................
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 10:03 PM ET #5

    this is so fucked up...he's taking the staff with him...early enrollee QB tyler bray's entire family has moved to knoxville...how does that feel? you move your whole family so they can watch your son play and the coach leaves for a program on the brink of ncaa sanctions..money was not the issue..hamilton was never given the chance to offer more money. Lane Kiffen his dad and whoever goes with him are the lowest form of shit alive...how do you do that to a bunch of 18-22 year old kids? there is no loyalty in this world... if i am ever diagnosed witha terminal illness i will not be going alone.
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    this is so fucked up...he's taking the staff with him...early enrollee QB tyler bray's entire family has moved to knoxville...how does that feel? you move your whole family so they can watch your son play and the coach leaves for a program on the brink of ncaa sanctions..money was not the issue..hamilton was never given the chance to offer more money. Lane Kiffen his dad and whoever goes with him are the lowest form of shit alive...how do you do that to a bunch of 18-22 year old kids? there is no loyalty in this world... if i am ever diagnosed witha terminal illness i will not be going alone.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 10:39 PM ET #6

    Well, I would certainly not pray for a plane crash but he saw that he couldn't cut it at UT and this recent cold spell made him think of CA.  The competition in the conference out there is much easier to navigate than that of the SEC.  Good riddance, he would not have done that well at TN, IMO.
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    Well, I would certainly not pray for a plane crash but he saw that he couldn't cut it at UT and this recent cold spell made him think of CA.  The competition in the conference out there is much easier to navigate than that of the SEC.  Good riddance, he would not have done that well at TN, IMO.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 10:42 PM ET #7

    it sucks to be Tennessee right now. He did them wrong.

    But as a recruit, you're signing with the university, not the coach. Stuff happens. I bet the kids who enrolled will get a chance to leave due to circumstances. All Tennessee needs to do now is make a bigger splash and sign Gruden to a FAT deal.

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    it sucks to be Tennessee right now. He did them wrong.

    But as a recruit, you're signing with the university, not the coach. Stuff happens. I bet the kids who enrolled will get a chance to leave due to circumstances. All Tennessee needs to do now is make a bigger splash and sign Gruden to a FAT deal.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 10:44 PM ET #8

    F kiffin in the A
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    F kiffin in the A
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 10:45 PM ET #9

    ...and his liver spotted father.
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    ...and his liver spotted father.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 11:03 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:

    it sucks to be Tennessee right now.

     No it doesn't,what sucks is to have a head coach that you don't like or respect,I thought that I'd have to endure at least 3 years of his act.The guy is not a winner plain and simple.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:

    it sucks to be Tennessee right now.

     No it doesn't,what sucks is to have a head coach that you don't like or respect,I thought that I'd have to endure at least 3 years of his act.The guy is not a winner plain and simple.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 11:06 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by HeyRube:

    this is so fucked up...he's taking the staff with him...early enrollee QB tyler bray's entire family has moved to knoxville...how does that feel? you move your whole family so they can watch your son play and the coach leaves for a program on the brink of ncaa sanctions..money was not the issue..hamilton was never given the chance to offer more money. Lane Kiffen his dad and whoever goes with him are the lowest form of shit alive...how do you do that to a bunch of 18-22 year old kids? there is no loyalty in this world... if i am ever diagnosed witha terminal illness i will not be going alone.

    terrible situation but did you ever think that maybe lane kiffin is doing what is best for him.. going to the place he was at for what 6 years?? he must like usc more then tenn, and lets face it he is going to win national championships there.. it would have been a lot harder to win them at tenn. he did what was right for him. thats the business, sure i feel sorry for the kids but lane did what he had to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyRube:

    this is so fucked up...he's taking the staff with him...early enrollee QB tyler bray's entire family has moved to knoxville...how does that feel? you move your whole family so they can watch your son play and the coach leaves for a program on the brink of ncaa sanctions..money was not the issue..hamilton was never given the chance to offer more money. Lane Kiffen his dad and whoever goes with him are the lowest form of shit alive...how do you do that to a bunch of 18-22 year old kids? there is no loyalty in this world... if i am ever diagnosed witha terminal illness i will not be going alone.

    terrible situation but did you ever think that maybe lane kiffin is doing what is best for him.. going to the place he was at for what 6 years?? he must like usc more then tenn, and lets face it he is going to win national championships there.. it would have been a lot harder to win them at tenn. he did what was right for him. thats the business, sure i feel sorry for the kids but lane did what he had to do

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 11:11 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

     No it doesn't,what sucks is to have a head coach that you don't like or respect,I thought that I'd have to endure at least 3 years of his act.The guy is not a winner plain and simple.

     

    i dont know why people think he;s not a winner. Based on what he;s done so far? I admit, he never deserved the Raiders job. That was a head scratcher. They went 4-12, but easily could have been 8-8. They lost a bunch of close games in the early parts of the season.Josh McCown was his main starting QB.

    I'm not as excited about the hire of him personally, its more about who he's bringing with him. Ed Orgeron is a beast of a recruiter, his pops can coach d, and now Norm Chow is coming back to run the o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

     No it doesn't,what sucks is to have a head coach that you don't like or respect,I thought that I'd have to endure at least 3 years of his act.The guy is not a winner plain and simple.

     

    i dont know why people think he;s not a winner. Based on what he;s done so far? I admit, he never deserved the Raiders job. That was a head scratcher. They went 4-12, but easily could have been 8-8. They lost a bunch of close games in the early parts of the season.Josh McCown was his main starting QB.

    I'm not as excited about the hire of him personally, its more about who he's bringing with him. Ed Orgeron is a beast of a recruiter, his pops can coach d, and now Norm Chow is coming back to run the o.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 11:11 PM ET #13

    Lane Kiffin giving his son the middle name Knox.
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    Lane Kiffin giving his son the middle name Knox.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 11:14 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:

    i dont know why people think he;s not a winner. Based on what he;s done so far? I admit, he never deserved the Raiders job. That was a head scratcher. They went 4-12, but easily could have been 8-8. They lost a bunch of close games in the early parts of the season.Josh McCown was his main starting QB.

    I'm not as excited about the hire of him personally, its more about who he's bringing with him. Ed Orgeron is a beast of a recruiter, his pops can coach d, and now Norm Chow is coming back to run the o.

     

     OK Trojan,let me just ask you one question.Do you honestly think that Lane Kiffin was at the top of USC's HC wishlist? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:

    i dont know why people think he;s not a winner. Based on what he;s done so far? I admit, he never deserved the Raiders job. That was a head scratcher. They went 4-12, but easily could have been 8-8. They lost a bunch of close games in the early parts of the season.Josh McCown was his main starting QB.

    I'm not as excited about the hire of him personally, its more about who he's bringing with him. Ed Orgeron is a beast of a recruiter, his pops can coach d, and now Norm Chow is coming back to run the o.

     

     OK Trojan,let me just ask you one question.Do you honestly think that Lane Kiffin was at the top of USC's HC wishlist? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 11:17 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

     

     OK Trojan,let me just ask you one question.Do you honestly think that Lane Kiffin was at the top of USC's HC wishlist? 

    No, but when you're a program like USC, your top 10 list will be marvelous no matter how you look at it. I dont think they thought Kiffin was available. He's a way better hire than their so called #1 choice (Riley). Better fit than Del Rio, based on his familiarity with recruiting.

    Dont forget, Pete Carroll was the 6th choice. That turned out ok.

    Gotta look at the big picture with this hire. I dont know if you realize what he's bringing, in terms of a coaching staff.

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     OK Trojan,let me just ask you one question.Do you honestly think that Lane Kiffin was at the top of USC's HC wishlist? 

    No, but when you're a program like USC, your top 10 list will be marvelous no matter how you look at it. I dont think they thought Kiffin was available. He's a way better hire than their so called #1 choice (Riley). Better fit than Del Rio, based on his familiarity with recruiting.

    Dont forget, Pete Carroll was the 6th choice. That turned out ok.

    Gotta look at the big picture with this hire. I dont know if you realize what he's bringing, in terms of a coaching staff.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 11:29 PM ET #16

    Kiffin is so young, he has a chance to be there longer than Carroll. SC CAN'T expect for him to match his record, they can't ignore other Pac-10 teams eventually getting better.............
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    Kiffin is so young, he has a chance to be there longer than Carroll. SC CAN'T expect for him to match his record, they can't ignore other Pac-10 teams eventually getting better.............
     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 11:34 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:

    Gotta look at the big picture with this hire. I dont know if you realize what he's bringing, in terms of a coaching staff.

     I do hate to lose Orgeron especially from a recruiting standpoint.But Monte will be 70 years old next month and he really had NO answer for VaTech and Bryan Stinespring isn't exactly known as an offensive wizard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:

    Gotta look at the big picture with this hire. I dont know if you realize what he's bringing, in terms of a coaching staff.

     I do hate to lose Orgeron especially from a recruiting standpoint.But Monte will be 70 years old next month and he really had NO answer for VaTech and Bryan Stinespring isn't exactly known as an offensive wizard.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 12, 2010 - 11:36 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

     I do hate to lose Orgeron especially from a recruiting standpoint.But Monte will be 70 years old next month and he really had NO answer for VaTech and Bryan Stinespring isn't exactly known as an offensive wizard.

    I'm not that pumped about poppa Kiffin. He is a little too old. But they will have a big replacement when his time is up. As a coach, going to USC to join the all star cast has to be tempting, especially when you can be the d-coordinator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

     I do hate to lose Orgeron especially from a recruiting standpoint.But Monte will be 70 years old next month and he really had NO answer for VaTech and Bryan Stinespring isn't exactly known as an offensive wizard.

    I'm not that pumped about poppa Kiffin. He is a little too old. But they will have a big replacement when his time is up. As a coach, going to USC to join the all star cast has to be tempting, especially when you can be the d-coordinator.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2010 - 12:04 AM ET #19

    why is it a given that he's going to win NC's at SC? carroll won two in 10 years of playing that weak ass scheduile they play every year..i understand its a business but he didnt leave for money..so where is the business? there is more of a challenge of winning in the sec there is a conf. title game to play for and if im not mistaken the last four teams to win that game won the NC game as well...so yeah i can blame him for leaving..UT is a tradition rich football program with facilities and money available for coaches riveled by few in the country
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    why is it a given that he's going to win NC's at SC? carroll won two in 10 years of playing that weak ass scheduile they play every year..i understand its a business but he didnt leave for money..so where is the business? there is more of a challenge of winning in the sec there is a conf. title game to play for and if im not mistaken the last four teams to win that game won the NC game as well...so yeah i can blame him for leaving..UT is a tradition rich football program with facilities and money available for coaches riveled by few in the country
     
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    right the sec won the last four... but how many of those have UT won?? and when was the last time UT was in the mix?? USC is in the mix every year. its a business move due to the fact that he will win more national championships at usc then he would at UT.. face the facts buddy UT is not the job it once was.
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    right the sec won the last four... but how many of those have UT won?? and when was the last time UT was in the mix?? USC is in the mix every year. its a business move due to the fact that he will win more national championships at usc then he would at UT.. face the facts buddy UT is not the job it once was.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2010 - 12:07 AM ET #21

    nobody serious is saying they will win a NC. Not at all. Thats foolish.

    but you;re foolish if you think USC played a week ass schedule. Nobody played more quality out of conference opponents than USC. Look it up.

    I know you're upset, but stop acting like he's taking a step down. USC has WAY more tradition. 

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    nobody serious is saying they will win a NC. Not at all. Thats foolish.

    but you;re foolish if you think USC played a week ass schedule. Nobody played more quality out of conference opponents than USC. Look it up.

    I know you're upset, but stop acting like he's taking a step down. USC has WAY more tradition. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2010 - 12:10 AM ET #22

    well west coast im not saying he will win one right away but he will 100 percetn be in the hunt for 1 more often than at UT
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    well west coast im not saying he will win one right away but he will 100 percetn be in the hunt for 1 more often than at UT
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pickenwinners:

    right the sec won the last four... but how many of those have UT won?? and when was the last time UT was in the mix?? USC is in the mix every year. its a business move due to the fact that he will win more national championships at usc then he would at UT.. face the facts buddy UT is not the job it once was.

    For the record since the start of the BCS format 12 years ago,USC has 1 NC and Tennessee has 1 NC. The PAC10 has a total of 1 NC,while the SEC has a total of 6 NCs among 4 different teams.In fact the SEC's record in BCS championship games is 6-0.

     So to say that you would have a better chance to win a NC at USC rather than at Tennessee is a bit naive. It would be a good move for someone that wanted a break after realizing that it's just too tough to win in the SEC week after week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickenwinners:

    right the sec won the last four... but how many of those have UT won?? and when was the last time UT was in the mix?? USC is in the mix every year. its a business move due to the fact that he will win more national championships at usc then he would at UT.. face the facts buddy UT is not the job it once was.

    For the record since the start of the BCS format 12 years ago,USC has 1 NC and Tennessee has 1 NC. The PAC10 has a total of 1 NC,while the SEC has a total of 6 NCs among 4 different teams.In fact the SEC's record in BCS championship games is 6-0.

     So to say that you would have a better chance to win a NC at USC rather than at Tennessee is a bit naive. It would be a good move for someone that wanted a break after realizing that it's just too tough to win in the SEC week after week.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2010 - 12:27 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

    For the record since the start of the BCS format 12 years ago,USC has 1 NC and Tennessee has 1 NC. The PAC10 has a total of 1 NC,while the SEC has a total of 6 NCs among 4 different teams.In fact the SEC's record in BCS championship games is 6-0.

     So to say that you would have a better chance to win a NC at USC rather than at Tennessee is a bit naive. It would be a good move for someone that wanted a break after realizing that it's just too tough to win in the SEC week after week.

    Stop. While you're right they have both won 1 NC in the last 12 years, you cant possible be serious and compare the two on a national level. Dont let the homerism get in the way. His path to the NC is much easier at USC, no if ands or buts. If you cant see that, than there's no arguing with you.

    You're being VERY naive comparing the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -29-:

    For the record since the start of the BCS format 12 years ago,USC has 1 NC and Tennessee has 1 NC. The PAC10 has a total of 1 NC,while the SEC has a total of 6 NCs among 4 different teams.In fact the SEC's record in BCS championship games is 6-0.

     So to say that you would have a better chance to win a NC at USC rather than at Tennessee is a bit naive. It would be a good move for someone that wanted a break after realizing that it's just too tough to win in the SEC week after week.

    Stop. While you're right they have both won 1 NC in the last 12 years, you cant possible be serious and compare the two on a national level. Dont let the homerism get in the way. His path to the NC is much easier at USC, no if ands or buts. If you cant see that, than there's no arguing with you.

    You're being VERY naive comparing the two.

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2010 - 12:28 AM ET #25

    I dont believe so at all.. sure the SEC is a better conference but guess what that means its going to be harder to go undeafted and harder to make it to the NC. I dont know the stat off hand but i would have to imagine that in the past 12 years USC has been in more BCS games and been in the talk for more NC games than Tenn has. He will get more looks at the NC in USC and thats a fact

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    I dont believe so at all.. sure the SEC is a better conference but guess what that means its going to be harder to go undeafted and harder to make it to the NC. I dont know the stat off hand but i would have to imagine that in the past 12 years USC has been in more BCS games and been in the talk for more NC games than Tenn has. He will get more looks at the NC in USC and thats a fact

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