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    i'll predict any final record you want, just name the team.......

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    jimrockford22
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2013 - 8:00 PM ET #76

    boston college

    east carolina

    north texas

    thanks again.. i consider these all possible ATS tails, but i haven't done a ton of work.

    BTW, when you look at stassen (phil steele has a link to it), there isn't that much variation in projected standings for major conferences... and then who knows who's actually in smaller conferences these days.

    having said that, still appreciate OP's efforts and guts... :)
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    boston college

    east carolina

    north texas

    thanks again.. i consider these all possible ATS tails, but i haven't done a ton of work.

    BTW, when you look at stassen (phil steele has a link to it), there isn't that much variation in projected standings for major conferences... and then who knows who's actually in smaller conferences these days.

    having said that, still appreciate OP's efforts and guts... :)
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2013 - 8:51 PM ET #77

    Back on michigan win total I got the line I was looking for surprisingly and it's over 8.5 at +110 odds!

    Great value in my opinion I can see this team winning 10

    I understand the hesitation people have with michigan but from the stuff coming out of camp this team is deep and very talented! I would consider them a top 10 team nationally and possibly a top 5 team by the end if the year!

    Devin Gardner needs to stay healthy of course but everything g I'm hearing is this team is fast and physical!

    Derrick green came to camp at 240 pounds if u don't know who that is he's the best recruit running back from last year!

    At every position michigan has at least a highly rated 4 star recruit which you couldn't say the previous years since Lloyd's departure!

    Receivers are big and block really well

    Cornerbacks are healthy and solid!

    D line fast and physical!

    Linebackers athletic and can run sidelne to sideline!!

    Online young but BIG!!

    Quarterback EXCELLENT!

    Running back competition has Fred Jackson getting a boner! But that's not new news from him! But he says they are back to ground and pound and will get 3rd and shorts again! Finally!!

    This is a good team schedule looks difficult but as everyone improves big they will I highly doubt with the ground and pound that big ten teams can match up talent wise for 4 quarters!

    I would say this is a Alabama built team but not close to their level yet!!


    11-1 season u heard it here!!
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    Back on michigan win total I got the line I was looking for surprisingly and it's over 8.5 at +110 odds!

    Great value in my opinion I can see this team winning 10

    I understand the hesitation people have with michigan but from the stuff coming out of camp this team is deep and very talented! I would consider them a top 10 team nationally and possibly a top 5 team by the end if the year!

    Devin Gardner needs to stay healthy of course but everything g I'm hearing is this team is fast and physical!

    Derrick green came to camp at 240 pounds if u don't know who that is he's the best recruit running back from last year!

    At every position michigan has at least a highly rated 4 star recruit which you couldn't say the previous years since Lloyd's departure!

    Receivers are big and block really well

    Cornerbacks are healthy and solid!

    D line fast and physical!

    Linebackers athletic and can run sidelne to sideline!!

    Online young but BIG!!

    Quarterback EXCELLENT!

    Running back competition has Fred Jackson getting a boner! But that's not new news from him! But he says they are back to ground and pound and will get 3rd and shorts again! Finally!!

    This is a good team schedule looks difficult but as everyone improves big they will I highly doubt with the ground and pound that big ten teams can match up talent wise for 4 quarters!

    I would say this is a Alabama built team but not close to their level yet!!


    11-1 season u heard it here!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2013 - 8:59 PM ET #78

    haven't looked into much... but michigan is the type of program that should have a very very good team. mediocre to good records should be outliers, although it's been alot tougher the last decade.
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    haven't looked into much... but michigan is the type of program that should have a very very good team. mediocre to good records should be outliers, although it's been alot tougher the last decade.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2013 - 10:29 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    boston college

    east carolina

    north texas

    thanks again.. i consider these all possible ATS tails, but i haven't done a ton of work.

    BTW, when you look at stassen (phil steele has a link to it), there isn't that much variation in projected standings for major conferences... and then who knows who's actually in smaller conferences these days.

    having said that, still appreciate OP's efforts and guts... :)


    my pleasure Jim.

    boston college  4-8  but competitive

    east carolina  9-3  good team

    north texas  8-4  a turnaround from 4-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    boston college

    east carolina

    north texas

    thanks again.. i consider these all possible ATS tails, but i haven't done a ton of work.

    BTW, when you look at stassen (phil steele has a link to it), there isn't that much variation in projected standings for major conferences... and then who knows who's actually in smaller conferences these days.

    having said that, still appreciate OP's efforts and guts... :)


    my pleasure Jim.

    boston college  4-8  but competitive

    east carolina  9-3  good team

    north texas  8-4  a turnaround from 4-8

     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2013 - 10:31 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    haven't looked into much... but michigan is the type of program that should have a very very good team. mediocre to good records should be outliers, although it's been alot tougher the last decade.


    regardless of what mtp says, mich is a 9-3 team at best.

    tough outs:

    ND
    at uconn (yes, this will be a competitive gm)
    at penn st
    at mich st
    neb
    at n'western
    at iowa (yes the hawkeyes will give them hell in late nov)
    ohio st


    wolverines 9-3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    haven't looked into much... but michigan is the type of program that should have a very very good team. mediocre to good records should be outliers, although it's been alot tougher the last decade.


    regardless of what mtp says, mich is a 9-3 team at best.

    tough outs:

    ND
    at uconn (yes, this will be a competitive gm)
    at penn st
    at mich st
    neb
    at n'western
    at iowa (yes the hawkeyes will give them hell in late nov)
    ohio st


    wolverines 9-3.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2013 - 10:35 PM ET #81

    guys i am taking a week or so off from this site so i can focus on my handicapping and not let homers piss me off so much that it skews my own numbers and thoughts on the teams.

    nothing worse for your handicapping game than letting homers get to your head.

    i love the michigan wolverines, but this mich homer is getting on my nerves with his lack of objectivity.

    see you in a week or two.


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    guys i am taking a week or so off from this site so i can focus on my handicapping and not let homers piss me off so much that it skews my own numbers and thoughts on the teams.

    nothing worse for your handicapping game than letting homers get to your head.

    i love the michigan wolverines, but this mich homer is getting on my nerves with his lack of objectivity.

    see you in a week or two.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 5:12 AM ET #82

    Dude why u so stubborn??
    Look at the players on michigan and the rest if big ten l?

    You realize how important depth is right??

    You realize Uconn and Iowa are gonna get slaughtered! The lines with be something like -14-17 range away from home!

    Yeah sometimes homers speak with objectivity!!

    You got no clue on this team and that's fine!! I truly understand it but when not if when michigan wins big ten and goes 11-1 you will at least consider my homer ism next season!!

    Big ten us stacked with mediocre teams to good!

    Michigan is really good!!
    OSU is really good everyone else is just there!! Ignorant guess well see
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    Dude why u so stubborn??
    Look at the players on michigan and the rest if big ten l?

    You realize how important depth is right??

    You realize Uconn and Iowa are gonna get slaughtered! The lines with be something like -14-17 range away from home!

    Yeah sometimes homers speak with objectivity!!

    You got no clue on this team and that's fine!! I truly understand it but when not if when michigan wins big ten and goes 11-1 you will at least consider my homer ism next season!!

    Big ten us stacked with mediocre teams to good!

    Michigan is really good!!
    OSU is really good everyone else is just there!! Ignorant guess well see
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 5:20 AM ET #83

    Pretty easy away schedule to me!! Penn state can't hang 4 quarters with freshman quarterback u serious?
    Tommy Rees night game at michigan?
    Really? Denard won't be around to throw 6 picks!!

    Nebraska barely beat michigan at home with denard getting hurt and devin playing receiver and Russell bellomy going 1-50 passing!! Huskers got no chance!!

    MSU sorry no chance this season! Good team pretty talented this game will be tough!!

    Northwestern also tough road game getting up for game at Ryan field is hard! Wildcats no slouch but depth depth depth always prevails!!

    Iowa not even worth my time!!

    OSU hoke wins tough game and goes 2-1 against OSU! Michigan stays undefeated at home for 3 rd straight season!

    I see max 3 losses MAX! You are not seeing through the Rodriquez years obviously!!



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    Pretty easy away schedule to me!! Penn state can't hang 4 quarters with freshman quarterback u serious?
    Tommy Rees night game at michigan?
    Really? Denard won't be around to throw 6 picks!!

    Nebraska barely beat michigan at home with denard getting hurt and devin playing receiver and Russell bellomy going 1-50 passing!! Huskers got no chance!!

    MSU sorry no chance this season! Good team pretty talented this game will be tough!!

    Northwestern also tough road game getting up for game at Ryan field is hard! Wildcats no slouch but depth depth depth always prevails!!

    Iowa not even worth my time!!

    OSU hoke wins tough game and goes 2-1 against OSU! Michigan stays undefeated at home for 3 rd straight season!

    I see max 3 losses MAX! You are not seeing through the Rodriquez years obviously!!



     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 5:22 AM ET #84

    Got I'm so pissed you said Uconn will be competitive game your mitts that's enough to make me laugh!!!
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    Got I'm so pissed you said Uconn will be competitive game your mitts that's enough to make me laugh!!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    Back on michigan win total I got the line I was looking for surprisingly and it's over 8.5 at +110 odds!

    Great value in my opinion I can see this team winning 10

    I understand the hesitation people have with michigan but from the stuff coming out of camp this team is deep and very talented! I would consider them a top 10 team nationally and possibly a top 5 team by the end if the year!

    Devin Gardner needs to stay healthy of course but everything g I'm hearing is this team is fast and physical!

    Derrick green came to camp at 240 pounds if u don't know who that is he's the best recruit running back from last year!

    At every position michigan has at least a highly rated 4 star recruit which you couldn't say the previous years since Lloyd's departure!

    Receivers are big and block really well

    Cornerbacks are healthy and solid!

    D line fast and physical!

    Linebackers athletic and can run sidelne to sideline!!

    Online young but BIG!!

    Quarterback EXCELLENT!

    Running back competition has Fred Jackson getting a boner! But that's not new news from him! But he says they are back to ground and pound and will get 3rd and shorts again! Finally!!

    This is a good team schedule looks difficult but as everyone improves big they will I highly doubt with the ground and pound that big ten teams can match up talent wise for 4 quarters!

    I would say this is a Alabama built team but not close to their level yet!!


    11-1 season u heard it here!!

     

     

    I've been around this site for quite a while now, and you are by far the biggest homer I've seen here.  Your opinions don't help anyone win any $, whether they're right or wrong! All we ever hear out of you is "MICHIGAN, MICHIGAN,MICHIGAN,MICHIGAN....best team on the planet....no one can hang with MICHIGAN.....the best ever.....tOSU sucks, MSU sucks......MICHIGAN, MICHIGAN, MICHIGAN!!!!!!"  You belong on a fan board, not a gambling site. 

    I'm a Sparty, and yes, I think Devin Gardner may end up being the best-kept secret in college football.  UofM will be good, but you need to understand, this is supposed to be a site where we help each other win $ together, and your extreme homerism helps no one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    Back on michigan win total I got the line I was looking for surprisingly and it's over 8.5 at +110 odds!

    Great value in my opinion I can see this team winning 10

    I understand the hesitation people have with michigan but from the stuff coming out of camp this team is deep and very talented! I would consider them a top 10 team nationally and possibly a top 5 team by the end if the year!

    Devin Gardner needs to stay healthy of course but everything g I'm hearing is this team is fast and physical!

    Derrick green came to camp at 240 pounds if u don't know who that is he's the best recruit running back from last year!

    At every position michigan has at least a highly rated 4 star recruit which you couldn't say the previous years since Lloyd's departure!

    Receivers are big and block really well

    Cornerbacks are healthy and solid!

    D line fast and physical!

    Linebackers athletic and can run sidelne to sideline!!

    Online young but BIG!!

    Quarterback EXCELLENT!

    Running back competition has Fred Jackson getting a boner! But that's not new news from him! But he says they are back to ground and pound and will get 3rd and shorts again! Finally!!

    This is a good team schedule looks difficult but as everyone improves big they will I highly doubt with the ground and pound that big ten teams can match up talent wise for 4 quarters!

    I would say this is a Alabama built team but not close to their level yet!!


    11-1 season u heard it here!!

     

     

    I've been around this site for quite a while now, and you are by far the biggest homer I've seen here.  Your opinions don't help anyone win any $, whether they're right or wrong! All we ever hear out of you is "MICHIGAN, MICHIGAN,MICHIGAN,MICHIGAN....best team on the planet....no one can hang with MICHIGAN.....the best ever.....tOSU sucks, MSU sucks......MICHIGAN, MICHIGAN, MICHIGAN!!!!!!"  You belong on a fan board, not a gambling site. 

    I'm a Sparty, and yes, I think Devin Gardner may end up being the best-kept secret in college football.  UofM will be good, but you need to understand, this is supposed to be a site where we help each other win $ together, and your extreme homerism helps no one!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 9:58 AM ET #86

    Understood you still aren't gearing me they are gonna win lots if games!!

    Place the bet and win!

    It isn't helping bc you are listening!!

    Over 8.5 is great value at +110 odds and u know it!!
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    Understood you still aren't gearing me they are gonna win lots if games!!

    Place the bet and win!

    It isn't helping bc you are listening!!

    Over 8.5 is great value at +110 odds and u know it!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 10:00 AM ET #87

    Aren't listenining
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 10:01 AM ET #88

    This site went to shit years ago!! If I'm the biggest homer u have seen you haven't been around long!!
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    This site went to shit years ago!! If I'm the biggest homer u have seen you haven't been around long!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 10:11 AM ET #89

    Please explain to me how gridiron guy makes a topic about win projections and he helps people win money?

    Seriously it's a joke!!

    No validity behind his rationale!

    At least I know my team from top to bottom to backups when I place a bet!!

    At least this homer actually knows how to bet his team!

    I'll make a prediction for your spartsans based on the only thing I know quarterback, receivers and coaching ! You win 9-3!
    I personally have no confidence in placing that bet bc I don't know shit bout them or their depth!

    I also know the recruiting classes haven't been as large recently bc of past years big classes!

    Recruiting is huge for me!!!

    Spare me thehonerism crap bc I know my michigan team better than most!! Just like in basketball!!

    Last year I went on rants but jimmy whom I respect filled me in on how good that bans team was!! I saw video and realized how michigan couldn't compete for 4 quarters and he was right!!

    I'm open to opinions!!!
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    Please explain to me how gridiron guy makes a topic about win projections and he helps people win money?

    Seriously it's a joke!!

    No validity behind his rationale!

    At least I know my team from top to bottom to backups when I place a bet!!

    At least this homer actually knows how to bet his team!

    I'll make a prediction for your spartsans based on the only thing I know quarterback, receivers and coaching ! You win 9-3!
    I personally have no confidence in placing that bet bc I don't know shit bout them or their depth!

    I also know the recruiting classes haven't been as large recently bc of past years big classes!

    Recruiting is huge for me!!!

    Spare me thehonerism crap bc I know my michigan team better than most!! Just like in basketball!!

    Last year I went on rants but jimmy whom I respect filled me in on how good that bans team was!! I saw video and realized how michigan couldn't compete for 4 quarters and he was right!!

    I'm open to opinions!!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 10:46 AM ET #90

    I agree that Gardner will be on the national radar once the year is over, but Michigan has more issues than described.

    Very raw and inexperienced at WR
    3 new starters on the o-line
    Front 7 has some depth but also young

    Michigan's success hinges largely on those position groups meshing together very quickly. Also any injuries to Gardner will be devastating.
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    I agree that Gardner will be on the national radar once the year is over, but Michigan has more issues than described.

    Very raw and inexperienced at WR
    3 new starters on the o-line
    Front 7 has some depth but also young

    Michigan's success hinges largely on those position groups meshing together very quickly. Also any injuries to Gardner will be devastating.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 10:50 AM ET #91

    Jeremy gallon senior drew dileo upperclassmen yes beyo g that you g but talented! I think Gardner will make them look good!

    Starters on O line can only be better than last years!

    Guess well see!! Just jacked about college football!!
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    Jeremy gallon senior drew dileo upperclassmen yes beyo g that you g but talented! I think Gardner will make them look good!

    Starters on O line can only be better than last years!

    Guess well see!! Just jacked about college football!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2013 - 8:14 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    Understood you still aren't gearing me they are gonna win lots if games!!

    Place the bet and win!

    It isn't helping bc you are listening!!

    Over 8.5 is great value at +110 odds and u know it!!

     

     

    Whether I agree or disagree isn't the point.  I'm just saying all we get from you is extreme homerism....like hardcore!!!  Which is fine, but this is a gambling site, people that pound their chests and claim how good their team is, don't get listened to very seriously.

    FWIW, here's my thoughts on Michigan.  Like I said, I've seen Gardner, he could be the next big thing.....or he could be very average, we don't know yet.  As a Sparty, he scares the crap out of me. Denard didn't worry me one bit, he was easy to contain for teams that had the right scheme and an athletic defense.  Gardner is not going to be easy to stop for anybody. If Gardner has some WR's step up.....look out.  RB is a ? too. I don't care what Fred Jackson says because if I remember correctly, he thought Thomas Rawls was going to be a beast .  Defensively they should be tough, not spectacular..... but above average. 

     Their schedule sets up pretty nice.  There's not one guaranteed loss on there.  In fact, they shouldn't be bigger than a 4-point 'dog all season, which translates into them "being able" to win every game.  However, if they don't catch any brakes and have a few injuries, they could lose 4/5 games.  Most likely, they win 9, so yes I think your bet at Over 8.5 +$ is a good bet.  I think there's also value at Over 9, considering it comes in at +315!!!!!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    Understood you still aren't gearing me they are gonna win lots if games!!

    Place the bet and win!

    It isn't helping bc you are listening!!

    Over 8.5 is great value at +110 odds and u know it!!

     

     

    Whether I agree or disagree isn't the point.  I'm just saying all we get from you is extreme homerism....like hardcore!!!  Which is fine, but this is a gambling site, people that pound their chests and claim how good their team is, don't get listened to very seriously.

    FWIW, here's my thoughts on Michigan.  Like I said, I've seen Gardner, he could be the next big thing.....or he could be very average, we don't know yet.  As a Sparty, he scares the crap out of me. Denard didn't worry me one bit, he was easy to contain for teams that had the right scheme and an athletic defense.  Gardner is not going to be easy to stop for anybody. If Gardner has some WR's step up.....look out.  RB is a ? too. I don't care what Fred Jackson says because if I remember correctly, he thought Thomas Rawls was going to be a beast .  Defensively they should be tough, not spectacular..... but above average. 

     Their schedule sets up pretty nice.  There's not one guaranteed loss on there.  In fact, they shouldn't be bigger than a 4-point 'dog all season, which translates into them "being able" to win every game.  However, if they don't catch any brakes and have a few injuries, they could lose 4/5 games.  Most likely, they win 9, so yes I think your bet at Over 8.5 +$ is a good bet.  I think there's also value at Over 9, considering it comes in at +315!!!!!

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2013 - 12:27 AM ET #93

    Bense I agree completely with what u said!! That's why I said Fred Jackson sometimes blows smoke out of his ass michigan fans know when he says something not to take it very seriously!!

    Denard was hard to watch as a fan!!

    Over 9 +315 not bad really goo bet!!

    Well yes I'm a homer but I follow college football not like I use to but michigan is my team and I know them very well! Well enough to agree with u that they are an injury away from losing 4-5 games!!

    Good luck this season!!
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    Bense I agree completely with what u said!! That's why I said Fred Jackson sometimes blows smoke out of his ass michigan fans know when he says something not to take it very seriously!!

    Denard was hard to watch as a fan!!

    Over 9 +315 not bad really goo bet!!

    Well yes I'm a homer but I follow college football not like I use to but michigan is my team and I know them very well! Well enough to agree with u that they are an injury away from losing 4-5 games!!

    Good luck this season!!
     
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    Jesus...it's you again 
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2013 - 8:36 AM ET #95

    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    Why didn't come out with predictions prior to Vegas odds?

    Michigan win 10 at least you apparently really got no idea about that team!

    I would bet 2000 grand on over/ under 9!!
    U game??


    2000 grand = 2,000,000,000         put me down  for  1000k  also....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    Why didn't come out with predictions prior to Vegas odds?

    Michigan win 10 at least you apparently really got no idea about that team!

    I would bet 2000 grand on over/ under 9!!
    U game??


    2000 grand = 2,000,000,000         put me down  for  1000k  also....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2013 - 10:08 AM ET #96

    Lol that's hilarious!! I'm an idiot! 2000 grand haha u know what I meant!!
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    Lol that's hilarious!! I'm an idiot! 2000 grand haha u know what I meant!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 17, 2013 - 2:49 PM ET #97

    revising FRESNO STATE

    i predict 10-2 for them, not 9-3
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    i predict 10-2 for them, not 9-3
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2013 - 10:12 AM ET #98

    Ucla
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2013 - 2:13 PM ET #99

    Philly, the bruins as you know have a super super tough sched.  losable games:

    at nebraska
    at utah
    at stan
    at oreg
    at zona
    wash
    asu
    at usc

    i see them 7-5 but perhaps the best 7-5 team in the country this yr as i think they'll be competitive in just about all of their losses.
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    Philly, the bruins as you know have a super super tough sched.  losable games:

    at nebraska
    at utah
    at stan
    at oreg
    at zona
    wash
    asu
    at usc

    i see them 7-5 but perhaps the best 7-5 team in the country this yr as i think they'll be competitive in just about all of their losses.
     
     
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    gimme some
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