Instead of this faggotry going back and forth. I will have the wager on your terms previously stated this afternoon. As long as both teams remain UNBEATEN Im fine.
Thats it...no more typing from me on this matter, pick your wager amount. I'll agree to it...its done. Im not making this a CSI Cold Case any longer.
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Instead of this faggotry going back and forth. I will have the wager on your terms previously stated this afternoon. As long as both teams remain UNBEATEN Im fine.
Thats it...no more typing from me on this matter, pick your wager amount. I'll agree to it...its done. Im not making this a CSI Cold Case any longer.
So what are you trying to say? I did say LSU would open up at no worst then PK to -2? When it opens up at that what will your excuse be then?
My spread is and WILL be closer then the spread from the article of Alabama -2.5 - 4 that you believe it would be. If you did not believe that to be the correct spread? What is the point in all of this?
The point of all this is that your are a lying, reneging POS!!! Is that clear enough for you???
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
WAIT
So what are you trying to say? I did say LSU would open up at no worst then PK to -2? When it opens up at that what will your excuse be then?
My spread is and WILL be closer then the spread from the article of Alabama -2.5 - 4 that you believe it would be. If you did not believe that to be the correct spread? What is the point in all of this?
The point of all this is that your are a lying, reneging POS!!! Is that clear enough for you???
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
Jimmydafreak posts this crap and I lost credibility? Your using Cover's experts as scripture and I LOST CREDIBILITY! You would get laughed out of every sportsbook on the strip citing Covers.com as line experts. I wouldnt be caught dead in the woods citing a Covers.com article! Like you did on page 1
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
Jimmydafreak posts this crap and I lost credibility? Your using Cover's experts as scripture and I LOST CREDIBILITY! You would get laughed out of every sportsbook on the strip citing Covers.com as line experts. I wouldnt be caught dead in the woods citing a Covers.com article! Like you did on page 1
Jimmydafreak posts this crap and I lost credibility? Your using Cover's experts as scripture and I LOST CREDIBILITY! You would get laughed out of every sportsbook on the strip citing Covers.com as line experts. I wouldnt be caught dead in the woods citing a Covers.com article! Like you did on page 1
And no where in that post did I say I was willing to bet anyone that Alabama would open at -2.5 or better as you have suggested in previous posts. In post #69 you insinuated that I somehow reneged on a bet offer (that never existed), and that you were losing "3 points in value." Aside from that just being a flat-out lie, you can't lose something you never had.
In post #97 I succintly summarized our betting conversations in their entirety, and it clearly demonstrates you are the one who went back on his word. You claimed you didn't read it, but maybe you should go back and do so. Then you can see for yourself what a lying, pond-scum POS you really are.
In summation, if you will openly and brazenly lie in this thread for all to see, what would make me for one second believe you would make good on a losing bet?
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
Jimmydafreak posts this crap and I lost credibility? Your using Cover's experts as scripture and I LOST CREDIBILITY! You would get laughed out of every sportsbook on the strip citing Covers.com as line experts. I wouldnt be caught dead in the woods citing a Covers.com article! Like you did on page 1
And no where in that post did I say I was willing to bet anyone that Alabama would open at -2.5 or better as you have suggested in previous posts. In post #69 you insinuated that I somehow reneged on a bet offer (that never existed), and that you were losing "3 points in value." Aside from that just being a flat-out lie, you can't lose something you never had.
In post #97 I succintly summarized our betting conversations in their entirety, and it clearly demonstrates you are the one who went back on his word. You claimed you didn't read it, but maybe you should go back and do so. Then you can see for yourself what a lying, pond-scum POS you really are.
In summation, if you will openly and brazenly lie in this thread for all to see, what would make me for one second believe you would make good on a losing bet?
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
You can keep writing dissertations...and I will keep quoting what you posted on the first paged and believed in! You do not know more then me in terms of setting spreads. I might not know much buch you have no clue what you're talking about on this site!
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
You can keep writing dissertations...and I will keep quoting what you posted on the first paged and believed in! You do not know more then me in terms of setting spreads. I might not know much buch you have no clue what you're talking about on this site!
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
in case anyone missed it the first 2 times I posted it. No way out of this. Please quote me where I wrote that LSU would be favored at WORST pk up to -2. So that I can the notoriety of being correct. Please bump that up for me in 3 weeks.
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
in case anyone missed it the first 2 times I posted it. No way out of this. Please quote me where I wrote that LSU would be favored at WORST pk up to -2. So that I can the notoriety of being correct. Please bump that up for me in 3 weeks.
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
Jimmydafreak really believed this to be true....now that he knows its not. He wants to write as eloquently as possible in an attempt to seem smarter then me on this subject. It wont work I told you LSU would be a favorite YOU BELIVED Alabama would be a FG or better. You posted that above...NOT ME!
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
Jimmydafreak really believed this to be true....now that he knows its not. He wants to write as eloquently as possible in an attempt to seem smarter then me on this subject. It wont work I told you LSU would be a favorite YOU BELIVED Alabama would be a FG or better. You posted that above...NOT ME!
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
He never wanted a wager after yesterday...2 Vegas oddsmakers on the strip have been quoted that LSU would have too many supporters come the rematch. It would be pointless to make LSU the dog...Alabama will be the dog because LSU money will NOT be hard to find. Once Bookieassisin posted an article another one surfaced across the street. Jimmydafreak thought better of silly decision
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Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:
Oh boy..... shitload of words, but no $$$
Will somebody please make a wager?
He never wanted a wager after yesterday...2 Vegas oddsmakers on the strip have been quoted that LSU would have too many supporters come the rematch. It would be pointless to make LSU the dog...Alabama will be the dog because LSU money will NOT be hard to find. Once Bookieassisin posted an article another one surfaced across the street. Jimmydafreak thought better of silly decision
read this random articles and believe them if you want...But what some oddsmakers said 2 weeks, or even last week WILL NOT be what is released in a few weeks. almsot 3 weeks worth of games against good competition for LSU and you believe that a line set last week is indicative of what it will be in a month?
You said I didnt watch the game? I watched every minute of that shit fest and ALabama STILL LOST THE GAME AT HOME! That says a lot to me and that was against a bad gameplan and performance from LSU on the road. Spread will open AT WORST pk. But I see LSU opening at -2. And Im willing to put money on that as well!
I bet you 2 weeks ago those same oddsmakers would not have open Michigan as -8.5 favs against Ohio State. But tonight they did. Perception and the formulas that set spreads change over time. Come the middle of December you will see
Where is your money? I wrote this and you wrote that crap above! You wrote it and THEN you posted a Covers article as support of your spread! Stop it son, your not winning this argument and you never put money up!
No one is arguing me on this anymore because it is widely known what that game will open up as. You are still trying to save face...and your looking bad writing essays proving NOTHING. You post bullshit, it lasts! Post #18 of this thread are your words. You said Alabama would "UNDOUBTABLY" (the word is undoubtedly) open up as a -2.5 to -4 favorite...now your saying you didnt say that?
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
read this random articles and believe them if you want...But what some oddsmakers said 2 weeks, or even last week WILL NOT be what is released in a few weeks. almsot 3 weeks worth of games against good competition for LSU and you believe that a line set last week is indicative of what it will be in a month?
You said I didnt watch the game? I watched every minute of that shit fest and ALabama STILL LOST THE GAME AT HOME! That says a lot to me and that was against a bad gameplan and performance from LSU on the road. Spread will open AT WORST pk. But I see LSU opening at -2. And Im willing to put money on that as well!
I bet you 2 weeks ago those same oddsmakers would not have open Michigan as -8.5 favs against Ohio State. But tonight they did. Perception and the formulas that set spreads change over time. Come the middle of December you will see
Where is your money? I wrote this and you wrote that crap above! You wrote it and THEN you posted a Covers article as support of your spread! Stop it son, your not winning this argument and you never put money up!
No one is arguing me on this anymore because it is widely known what that game will open up as. You are still trying to save face...and your looking bad writing essays proving NOTHING. You post bullshit, it lasts! Post #18 of this thread are your words. You said Alabama would "UNDOUBTABLY" (the word is undoubtedly) open up as a -2.5 to -4 favorite...now your saying you didnt say that?
I do not owe Lucan and have never acknowledged his existence until yesterday. A simple search option with my user name and his would show that. I also owe no one else on Covers.com anything. I am not waiting 6 weeks for a wager with you online. The bet is the opening line as initially stated by me in POST #36.
I stated LSU would open at no worst then PK then to -2. You posted Alabama -2.5 -4. We can take the mean of those (me with LSU -1 you with UA -3 (-125) or we can take the highest of what we posted (me with LSU -2 you with UA -4) and see whose closer?.....THESE ARE WHAT PEOPLE CALL TERMS Jimmydafreak
We would then need to come to agreement whose opening line we will use. But more importantly if either LSU or Alabama were to lose a game before the National Championship game the bet is voided.
When did setting terms of a bet that was never agreed by both parties lying? reneging? You think you can go against me and I wont try to include your spread as well? You talked big shit about how LSU wouldnt be favored. You think Im making bets on my line only...when you yourself posted a line?
Those were my terms for you to say yes or no to. WTF are you talking about Im lying? You pussied out of it, you didnt want the bet. No harm no foul. Now your calling me a POS liar? You have the fucking audacity! Show me the post we agreed to OUR bet and set OUR wager....DONT WORRY I'll wait!
I called out the bet and later set terms! Now Im a liar for setting terms on a wager...yet on the same terms of this bet. You were willing to be me a dime on the opening line AND YOUR LINE of Alabama -2.5 -4. You my friend are the POS!
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
I do not owe Lucan and have never acknowledged his existence until yesterday. A simple search option with my user name and his would show that. I also owe no one else on Covers.com anything. I am not waiting 6 weeks for a wager with you online. The bet is the opening line as initially stated by me in POST #36.
I stated LSU would open at no worst then PK then to -2. You posted Alabama -2.5 -4. We can take the mean of those (me with LSU -1 you with UA -3 (-125) or we can take the highest of what we posted (me with LSU -2 you with UA -4) and see whose closer?.....THESE ARE WHAT PEOPLE CALL TERMS Jimmydafreak
We would then need to come to agreement whose opening line we will use. But more importantly if either LSU or Alabama were to lose a game before the National Championship game the bet is voided.
When did setting terms of a bet that was never agreed by both parties lying? reneging? You think you can go against me and I wont try to include your spread as well? You talked big shit about how LSU wouldnt be favored. You think Im making bets on my line only...when you yourself posted a line?
Those were my terms for you to say yes or no to. WTF are you talking about Im lying? You pussied out of it, you didnt want the bet. No harm no foul. Now your calling me a POS liar? You have the fucking audacity! Show me the post we agreed to OUR bet and set OUR wager....DONT WORRY I'll wait!
I called out the bet and later set terms! Now Im a liar for setting terms on a wager...yet on the same terms of this bet. You were willing to be me a dime on the opening line AND YOUR LINE of Alabama -2.5 -4. You my friend are the POS!
Before we agree to the terms of a bet you must first pay Lucan whatever you owe him, and any other Cover poster you owe money to. If you do that, then I will work out an arrangement with you to bet a dime on the opening line and a dime on the game with Alabama being a 2.5-point favorite.
So you're willing to bet the game on YOUR spread but not that they will open as that? Also you yourself said "Before we agree on terms..."
NO BET WAS MADE...how can someone renege on a bet never made, with terms NEVER CREATED! You are the POS!
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Before we agree to the terms of a bet you must first pay Lucan whatever you owe him, and any other Cover poster you owe money to. If you do that, then I will work out an arrangement with you to bet a dime on the opening line and a dime on the game with Alabama being a 2.5-point favorite.
So you're willing to bet the game on YOUR spread but not that they will open as that? Also you yourself said "Before we agree on terms..."
NO BET WAS MADE...how can someone renege on a bet never made, with terms NEVER CREATED! You are the POS!
On neutral, I would think Bama would actually be favored by maybe a point but in New Orleans, thinking would be LSU -2.5 ish.
Regardless of the line or where they play, I think LSU wins tho. LSU has better athletes than Bama.
Thats incorrect the money was ALL OVER LSU. In teasers and the points. The books took it in the ass when LSU won the ML. I can post numerous interviews with HEAD lineskeepers at the Legendz sportsbook and at the Golden Nugget sportsbook. Both interviews are located on other forums which I will NOT link. They also said it was the largest bet game in college football reg season in YEARS. The public and sharp LOVE LSU. Not saying big money whales didnt or wont back Alabama...but their is was toop much support for them. There will be even MORE support for them when they go 13-0 and face UA in a somewhat home game
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Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:
Where was the money in the first game?
Guessing it was all over Bama.
On neutral, I would think Bama would actually be favored by maybe a point but in New Orleans, thinking would be LSU -2.5 ish.
Regardless of the line or where they play, I think LSU wins tho. LSU has better athletes than Bama.
Thats incorrect the money was ALL OVER LSU. In teasers and the points. The books took it in the ass when LSU won the ML. I can post numerous interviews with HEAD lineskeepers at the Legendz sportsbook and at the Golden Nugget sportsbook. Both interviews are located on other forums which I will NOT link. They also said it was the largest bet game in college football reg season in YEARS. The public and sharp LOVE LSU. Not saying big money whales didnt or wont back Alabama...but their is was toop much support for them. There will be even MORE support for them when they go 13-0 and face UA in a somewhat home game
Thats incorrect the money was ALL OVER LSU. In teasers and the points. The books took it in the ass when LSU won the ML. I can post numerous interviews with HEAD lineskeepers at the Legendz sportsbook and at the Golden Nugget sportsbook. Both interviews are located on other forums which I will NOT link. They also said it was the largest bet game in college football reg season in YEARS. The public and sharp LOVE LSU. Not saying big money whales didnt or wont back Alabama...but their is was toop much support for them. There will be even MORE support for them when they go 13-0 and face UA in a somewhat home game
That's interesting............ Bama has a following and hard to bet against for many people.
I would have had that backwards.
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
Thats incorrect the money was ALL OVER LSU. In teasers and the points. The books took it in the ass when LSU won the ML. I can post numerous interviews with HEAD lineskeepers at the Legendz sportsbook and at the Golden Nugget sportsbook. Both interviews are located on other forums which I will NOT link. They also said it was the largest bet game in college football reg season in YEARS. The public and sharp LOVE LSU. Not saying big money whales didnt or wont back Alabama...but their is was toop much support for them. There will be even MORE support for them when they go 13-0 and face UA in a somewhat home game
That's interesting............ Bama has a following and hard to bet against for many people.
That's interesting............ Bama has a following and hard to bet against for many people.
I would have had that backwards.
+5.5 was too many points. At the time Alabama by the indication of the spread seen as the BEST team in CFB. 2 weeks later who have they played? a FBC school and MSU. LSU has put the Hand of God on a Western Kentucky and Ole Miss. Then then play #3 at home as well as ending the season vs #13 UGA in the SEC title game. Now looking subjectively at that. LSU would have beaten the #2, #3, and #13 ranked teams in 5 weeks in the best conference in football. Their power rankings will be through the roof at season ends, much better then UA's. And people in this thread are telling me they wouldnt OPEN as a short favorite in a somewhat home game in the SuperDome?
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Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:
That's interesting............ Bama has a following and hard to bet against for many people.
I would have had that backwards.
+5.5 was too many points. At the time Alabama by the indication of the spread seen as the BEST team in CFB. 2 weeks later who have they played? a FBC school and MSU. LSU has put the Hand of God on a Western Kentucky and Ole Miss. Then then play #3 at home as well as ending the season vs #13 UGA in the SEC title game. Now looking subjectively at that. LSU would have beaten the #2, #3, and #13 ranked teams in 5 weeks in the best conference in football. Their power rankings will be through the roof at season ends, much better then UA's. And people in this thread are telling me they wouldnt OPEN as a short favorite in a somewhat home game in the SuperDome?
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
Alabama would undoubtably be favored again. Look for a line between 2.5 - 4.
See the following link.
Vegas says Bama would be favored over LSU in a rematch.
"If the BCS system does produce LSU-Alabama II in the National Championship Game in New Orleans, multiple oddsmakers told Covers.com that the Tide would still be a small favorite over LSU."
Anyone who watched the the LSU-Alabama game cant deny that alabama moved the ball much better than LSU. The play of the game was the LSU interception at the 1 yard line. It was a good throw, and a good catch..... but a spectacular play by the cornerback to jump up and rip a caught ball out of the recievers hands as they landed..... that play could have just as easily been called a reception.... Single best college football play of the year, if not one of the best single plays in years..... LSU beat alabama on that play, because if alabama scored, they win that football game..... The fact that alabama was better offensively makes them a slight favorite....
BUT then add in the fact that LSU kicking is much better than the alabama kicking, i think to have the national championship game as a pickem is fair line.....
Alabama can move the ball better, but LSUs kicker gives them an edge in a tough defensive battle where field goals matter.
My prediciton: LSU vs Alabama Pickem for the National championship.
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Anyone who watched the the LSU-Alabama game cant deny that alabama moved the ball much better than LSU. The play of the game was the LSU interception at the 1 yard line. It was a good throw, and a good catch..... but a spectacular play by the cornerback to jump up and rip a caught ball out of the recievers hands as they landed..... that play could have just as easily been called a reception.... Single best college football play of the year, if not one of the best single plays in years..... LSU beat alabama on that play, because if alabama scored, they win that football game..... The fact that alabama was better offensively makes them a slight favorite....
BUT then add in the fact that LSU kicking is much better than the alabama kicking, i think to have the national championship game as a pickem is fair line.....
Alabama can move the ball better, but LSUs kicker gives them an edge in a tough defensive battle where field goals matter.
My prediciton: LSU vs Alabama Pickem for the National championship.
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