I don't disagree with you. Alabama is a long, long way from a lock, but if they can put the ball in the end zone 2 or 3 times like they should have in the first game, that'll be pretty much a wrap.
The only real hope LSU has to score is some sort of defensive/special teams TD or a busted play. But as we saw in the first game, LSU's passing game versus Alabama's LBers and secondary is a complete mismatch, and with extra time to prepare for Jefferson's read option and option pitch, I don't think they'll have as much sucess with that the second time around. A shutout is certainly within the realm of possibility.
Are you offering this team total as well?
Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
I don't disagree with you. Alabama is a long, long way from a lock, but if they can put the ball in the end zone 2 or 3 times like they should have in the first game, that'll be pretty much a wrap.
The only real hope LSU has to score is some sort of defensive/special teams TD or a busted play. But as we saw in the first game, LSU's passing game versus Alabama's LBers and secondary is a complete mismatch, and with extra time to prepare for Jefferson's read option and option pitch, I don't think they'll have as much sucess with that the second time around. A shutout is certainly within the realm of possibility.
I don't disagree with you. Alabama is a long, long way from a lock, but if they can put the ball in the end zone 2 or 3 times like they should have in the first game, that'll be pretty much a wrap.
The only real hope LSU has to score is some sort of defensive/special teams TD or a busted play. But as we saw in the first game, LSU's passing game versus Alabama's LBers and secondary is a complete mismatch, and with extra time to prepare for Jefferson's read option and option pitch, I don't think they'll have as much sucess with that the second time around. A shutout is certainly within the realm of possibility.
Let me throw something out there for you. Did it every occur to you Miles realized before the game(in creating his strategy) or during the game that he could use bama's typical strategy of defense and field position and win the game with it?
I think he was quite content trying to flip the field all game using his punter and wait on his defense to come up with a big play, which it did several times.
Why risk turning the ball over when you have that much confidence in your defense + playing in a hostile environment. He played it close to the hip and was probably giggling to himself everytime saban was foolish enough to attempt those field goals instead of pinning them deep and waiting for his defense to make a play.
Why on earth should we expect anything different out of saban the 2nd time around? He apparently couldn't control himself the 1st time and you certainly won't have a home field crowd advantage, therefore I expect LSU to open up on offense some more. They might even watch some tape of GA southern and get Jefferson running that option.
Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
I don't disagree with you. Alabama is a long, long way from a lock, but if they can put the ball in the end zone 2 or 3 times like they should have in the first game, that'll be pretty much a wrap.
The only real hope LSU has to score is some sort of defensive/special teams TD or a busted play. But as we saw in the first game, LSU's passing game versus Alabama's LBers and secondary is a complete mismatch, and with extra time to prepare for Jefferson's read option and option pitch, I don't think they'll have as much sucess with that the second time around. A shutout is certainly within the realm of possibility.
Let me throw something out there for you. Did it every occur to you Miles realized before the game(in creating his strategy) or during the game that he could use bama's typical strategy of defense and field position and win the game with it?
I think he was quite content trying to flip the field all game using his punter and wait on his defense to come up with a big play, which it did several times.
Why risk turning the ball over when you have that much confidence in your defense + playing in a hostile environment. He played it close to the hip and was probably giggling to himself everytime saban was foolish enough to attempt those field goals instead of pinning them deep and waiting for his defense to make a play.
Why on earth should we expect anything different out of saban the 2nd time around? He apparently couldn't control himself the 1st time and you certainly won't have a home field crowd advantage, therefore I expect LSU to open up on offense some more. They might even watch some tape of GA southern and get Jefferson running that option.
Let me throw something out there for you. Did it every occur to you Miles realized before the game(in creating his strategy) or during the game that he could use bama's typical strategy of defense and field position and win the game with it?
I think he was quite content trying to flip the field all game using his punter and wait on his defense to come up with a big play, which it did several times.
Why risk turning the ball over when you have that much confidence in your defense + playing in a hostile environment. He played it close to the hip and was probably giggling to himself everytime saban was foolish enough to attempt those field goals instead of pinning them deep and waiting for his defense to make a play.
Why on earth should we expect anything different out of saban the 2nd time around? He apparently couldn't control himself the 1st time and you certainly won't have a home field crowd advantage, therefore I expect LSU to open up on offense some more. They might even watch some tape of GA southern and get Jefferson running that option.
Jefferson did run the option against Alabama, and they did so successfully. Attacking the perimeter of Alabama's defense and Jefferson scrambles is the only thing LSU rally had any success with. That's why LSU's speed RB Mike Ford lead the team in rushing with 72 yards, and Jordan was 2nd with 43 yards. Spencer Ware was a non-factor with 29 yards on 16 carries.
Not only did it occur to me that Miles would play it close to the vest in a hostile environment, and rely on his superior punter to play field position with Alabama, I said he would do exactly that before the game. And because Alabama never had more than a 3-point lead, Miles never had to deviate from that conservative approach.
Despite having a huge field position throughout the game, LSU was only able to muster one scoring drive so I'm not really sure what Saban is suppose to change. The first game proved that LSU's passing game versus Alabama LBers and secondary is a mismatch. Throwing the ball downfield more will only result in more interceptions for Alabama, and would only increase the margin of victory for Alabama. Miles understands this. He understands he has a QB with an erratic arm.
What will change is that Lee will never see the field, because LSU was pretty much dead and stinkin' with him under center. LSU had a lot of success attacking the perimeter of Alabama's defense (so did Georgia Southern) so I think we'll see LSU try to devise more ways to take advantage of that weakness. Expect more option, speed sweeps and wide receiver screens - that type of stuff.
Quote Originally Posted by atl4tigerfan:
Let me throw something out there for you. Did it every occur to you Miles realized before the game(in creating his strategy) or during the game that he could use bama's typical strategy of defense and field position and win the game with it?
I think he was quite content trying to flip the field all game using his punter and wait on his defense to come up with a big play, which it did several times.
Why risk turning the ball over when you have that much confidence in your defense + playing in a hostile environment. He played it close to the hip and was probably giggling to himself everytime saban was foolish enough to attempt those field goals instead of pinning them deep and waiting for his defense to make a play.
Why on earth should we expect anything different out of saban the 2nd time around? He apparently couldn't control himself the 1st time and you certainly won't have a home field crowd advantage, therefore I expect LSU to open up on offense some more. They might even watch some tape of GA southern and get Jefferson running that option.
Jefferson did run the option against Alabama, and they did so successfully. Attacking the perimeter of Alabama's defense and Jefferson scrambles is the only thing LSU rally had any success with. That's why LSU's speed RB Mike Ford lead the team in rushing with 72 yards, and Jordan was 2nd with 43 yards. Spencer Ware was a non-factor with 29 yards on 16 carries.
Not only did it occur to me that Miles would play it close to the vest in a hostile environment, and rely on his superior punter to play field position with Alabama, I said he would do exactly that before the game. And because Alabama never had more than a 3-point lead, Miles never had to deviate from that conservative approach.
Despite having a huge field position throughout the game, LSU was only able to muster one scoring drive so I'm not really sure what Saban is suppose to change. The first game proved that LSU's passing game versus Alabama LBers and secondary is a mismatch. Throwing the ball downfield more will only result in more interceptions for Alabama, and would only increase the margin of victory for Alabama. Miles understands this. He understands he has a QB with an erratic arm.
What will change is that Lee will never see the field, because LSU was pretty much dead and stinkin' with him under center. LSU had a lot of success attacking the perimeter of Alabama's defense (so did Georgia Southern) so I think we'll see LSU try to devise more ways to take advantage of that weakness. Expect more option, speed sweeps and wide receiver screens - that type of stuff.
No better yet Jimmy instead of this back and forth and your usage of size 14 font...I will be in Vegas for the New Years. I have a few grand to play with on this game. If you wont be in Vegas we can use Matchbook or something else you're comfortable with. I take it you will be backing Alabama in the rematch correct? We will use your early line of Alabama -3 (since you said -2.5 to -4 before on the first page).
Let me know what works for you and how much
Before we agree to the terms of a bet you must first pay Lucan whatever you owe him, and any other Cover poster you owe money to. If you do that, then I will work out an arrangement with you to bet a dime on the opening line and a dime on the game with Alabama being a 2.5-point favorite.
Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
No better yet Jimmy instead of this back and forth and your usage of size 14 font...I will be in Vegas for the New Years. I have a few grand to play with on this game. If you wont be in Vegas we can use Matchbook or something else you're comfortable with. I take it you will be backing Alabama in the rematch correct? We will use your early line of Alabama -3 (since you said -2.5 to -4 before on the first page).
Let me know what works for you and how much
Before we agree to the terms of a bet you must first pay Lucan whatever you owe him, and any other Cover poster you owe money to. If you do that, then I will work out an arrangement with you to bet a dime on the opening line and a dime on the game with Alabama being a 2.5-point favorite.
Before we agree to the terms of a bet you must first pay Lucan whatever you owe him, and any other Cover poster you owe money to. If you do that, then I will work out an arrangement with you to bet a dime on the opening line and a dime on the game with Alabama being a 2.5-point favorite.
AU team total ??
Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Before we agree to the terms of a bet you must first pay Lucan whatever you owe him, and any other Cover poster you owe money to. If you do that, then I will work out an arrangement with you to bet a dime on the opening line and a dime on the game with Alabama being a 2.5-point favorite.
Before we agree to the terms of a bet you must first pay Lucan whatever you owe him, and any other Cover poster you owe money to. If you do that, then I will work out an arrangement with you to bet a dime on the opening line and a dime on the game with Alabama being a 2.5-point favorite.
I do not owe Lucan and have never acknowledged his existence until yesterday. A simple search option with my user name and his would show that. I also owe no one else on Covers.com anything. I am not waiting 6 weeks for a wager with you online. The bet is the opening line as initially stated by me in POST #36.
I stated LSU would open at no worst then PK then to -2. You posted Alabama -2.5 -4. We can take the mean of those (me with LSU -1 you with UA -3 (-125) or we can take the highest of what we posted (me with LSU -2 you with UA -4) and see whose closer?
We would then need to come to agreement whose opening line we will use. But more importantly if either LSU or Alabama were to lose a game before the National Championship game the bet is voided.
Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Before we agree to the terms of a bet you must first pay Lucan whatever you owe him, and any other Cover poster you owe money to. If you do that, then I will work out an arrangement with you to bet a dime on the opening line and a dime on the game with Alabama being a 2.5-point favorite.
I do not owe Lucan and have never acknowledged his existence until yesterday. A simple search option with my user name and his would show that. I also owe no one else on Covers.com anything. I am not waiting 6 weeks for a wager with you online. The bet is the opening line as initially stated by me in POST #36.
I stated LSU would open at no worst then PK then to -2. You posted Alabama -2.5 -4. We can take the mean of those (me with LSU -1 you with UA -3 (-125) or we can take the highest of what we posted (me with LSU -2 you with UA -4) and see whose closer?
We would then need to come to agreement whose opening line we will use. But more importantly if either LSU or Alabama were to lose a game before the National Championship game the bet is voided.
I do not owe Lucan and have never acknowledged his existence until yesterday. A simple search option with my user name and his would show that. I also owe no one else on Covers.com anything. I am not waiting 6 weeks for a wager with you online. The bet is the opening line as initially stated by me in POST #36.
I stated LSU would open at no worst then PK then to -2. You posted Alabama -2.5 -4. We can take the mean of those (me with LSU -1 you with UA -3 (-125) or we can take the highest of what we posted (me with LSU -2 you with UA -4) and see whose closer?
We would then need to come to agreement whose opening line we will use. But more importantly if either LSU or Alabama were to lose a game before the National Championship game the bet is voided.
The bet is simple. If Alabama opens as the favorite, I win. If LSU opens as the favorite you win. If it's a pick'em, it's a push.
Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_O:
I do not owe Lucan and have never acknowledged his existence until yesterday. A simple search option with my user name and his would show that. I also owe no one else on Covers.com anything. I am not waiting 6 weeks for a wager with you online. The bet is the opening line as initially stated by me in POST #36.
I stated LSU would open at no worst then PK then to -2. You posted Alabama -2.5 -4. We can take the mean of those (me with LSU -1 you with UA -3 (-125) or we can take the highest of what we posted (me with LSU -2 you with UA -4) and see whose closer?
We would then need to come to agreement whose opening line we will use. But more importantly if either LSU or Alabama were to lose a game before the National Championship game the bet is voided.
The bet is simple. If Alabama opens as the favorite, I win. If LSU opens as the favorite you win. If it's a pick'em, it's a push.
LSU -1 vs. Alabama: There’s a feeling that the public and sharp money both like LSU, so starting at -2 ½ to see if Alabama money can quickly be found might be an early strategy here. If LSU money still comes in, then the book saved itself two to three moves up the ladder and limit exposure where they can be beaten by both sides.
LSU -3 vs. Oklahoma State: The Cowboys can score at will, but might they find some issues with LSU’s defense? Although LSU hasn’t looked good offensively all season, they might be at their best against Oklahoma State’s defense. The public would still side with LSU and the book might want to get closer to -5 by opening -4 ½.
LSU -3 vs. Oregon: Oregon is a very popular public team on the West Coast and in games like this, they have to respect almost as much as the sharp money because their contributions to the overall cash pile will outweigh the sharps. LSU -3 would be a good starting point to see where the money takes them, if anywhere at all.
Here are Kenny White’s projected lines involving Alabama in the BCS National Championship game under the scenario that LSU loses:
Alabama -1.5 vs. Oklahoma Alabama -1.5 vs. Oklahoma State Alabama -2 ½ vs. Oregon
Here’s a look at White’s projected line for a couple of other BCS Bowl games possibilities:
Orange Bowl: Clemson -7 vs. Cincinnati Sugar Bowl: Alabama -4 vs. Stanford Rose Bowl: Oregon -2 ½ vs. Wisconsin Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma -10 vs. Houston
Those potential Bama lines don't look right at all. -1 vs Oklahoma/St and -4 vs Stanford?
I have a gigantic bet on Luck to win the Heisman, but I would make an even bigger bet on Bama -4 vs Stanford if that matchup ever happened.
Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:
from Kenny White/Vegas Insider....(11/17)
LSU -1 vs. Alabama: There’s a feeling that the public and sharp money both like LSU, so starting at -2 ½ to see if Alabama money can quickly be found might be an early strategy here. If LSU money still comes in, then the book saved itself two to three moves up the ladder and limit exposure where they can be beaten by both sides.
LSU -3 vs. Oklahoma State: The Cowboys can score at will, but might they find some issues with LSU’s defense? Although LSU hasn’t looked good offensively all season, they might be at their best against Oklahoma State’s defense. The public would still side with LSU and the book might want to get closer to -5 by opening -4 ½.
LSU -3 vs. Oregon: Oregon is a very popular public team on the West Coast and in games like this, they have to respect almost as much as the sharp money because their contributions to the overall cash pile will outweigh the sharps. LSU -3 would be a good starting point to see where the money takes them, if anywhere at all.
Here are Kenny White’s projected lines involving Alabama in the BCS National Championship game under the scenario that LSU loses:
Alabama -1.5 vs. Oklahoma Alabama -1.5 vs. Oklahoma State Alabama -2 ½ vs. Oregon
Here’s a look at White’s projected line for a couple of other BCS Bowl games possibilities:
Orange Bowl: Clemson -7 vs. Cincinnati Sugar Bowl: Alabama -4 vs. Stanford Rose Bowl: Oregon -2 ½ vs. Wisconsin Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma -10 vs. Houston
Those potential Bama lines don't look right at all. -1 vs Oklahoma/St and -4 vs Stanford?
I have a gigantic bet on Luck to win the Heisman, but I would make an even bigger bet on Bama -4 vs Stanford if that matchup ever happened.
here is a linesmaker poll done 11/15.....from Don Best last number is BCS ranking *these are raw numbers...LSU is about 0.5-1.5 pts better than Bama from most I have seen...if they beat Arkansas and Georgia...with Bama with win only over Auburn....it would be tough to figure LSU as a dog to Bama in a (kinda sorta) home game...personally I think Bama is the (potentially) stronger team...but with LSU being such a media and public favorite they would probably open as a small favorite.... *after all....the LSU money is THERE...Vegas doesn't need to look for that
1 LSU 123.0 1 2 Alabama 122.5 3 3 Oklahoma 120.8 5 4 Oklahoma State 120.7 2 5 Oregon 120.1 4 6 Stanford 118.6 9 7 Wisconsin 117.6 17 8 Arkansas 116.1 6 9 Boise State 115.9 10 10 Florida St. 113.8 25 11 Georgia 113.6 14 12 Clemson 113.0 7 T-13 Virginia Tech 112.5 8 T-13 Notre Dame 112.5 NR 15 Michigan State 112.1 15 16 Michigan 111.9 18 17 Houston 111.3 11 18 Nebraska 111.0 16 19 Southern California 110.9 NR 20 South Carolina 110.8 12 21 Texas Christian 109.7 19 22 Southern Mississippi 109.0 20 T-23 Kansas State 108.7 13 T-23 Cincinnati 108.7 NR 25 Texas 108.5 23
It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
here is a linesmaker poll done 11/15.....from Don Best last number is BCS ranking *these are raw numbers...LSU is about 0.5-1.5 pts better than Bama from most I have seen...if they beat Arkansas and Georgia...with Bama with win only over Auburn....it would be tough to figure LSU as a dog to Bama in a (kinda sorta) home game...personally I think Bama is the (potentially) stronger team...but with LSU being such a media and public favorite they would probably open as a small favorite.... *after all....the LSU money is THERE...Vegas doesn't need to look for that
1 LSU 123.0 1 2 Alabama 122.5 3 3 Oklahoma 120.8 5 4 Oklahoma State 120.7 2 5 Oregon 120.1 4 6 Stanford 118.6 9 7 Wisconsin 117.6 17 8 Arkansas 116.1 6 9 Boise State 115.9 10 10 Florida St. 113.8 25 11 Georgia 113.6 14 12 Clemson 113.0 7 T-13 Virginia Tech 112.5 8 T-13 Notre Dame 112.5 NR 15 Michigan State 112.1 15 16 Michigan 111.9 18 17 Houston 111.3 11 18 Nebraska 111.0 16 19 Southern California 110.9 NR 20 South Carolina 110.8 12 21 Texas Christian 109.7 19 22 Southern Mississippi 109.0 20 T-23 Kansas State 108.7 13 T-23 Cincinnati 108.7 NR 25 Texas 108.5 23
Sorry about a reply so late Jimmy i sleep in today.
Now you know me better then anybody here, and you also know i don't put my business on the internet about capping a game or how much money i make.
But this fuck is always trying to make wagers with people here trying to act like he is somebody important.
I would say check is post out at the offers he makes people but you would be there for weeks because he talks so much BS and to filter the post is not worth you wasteing you're time unless you won't too!!!
I was on another sports site talking on a fourm and i met smokie o, and we got to talking about covers.com and he told me his user name as well as me telling him mine....he seem okay and we made a friendly wager on a game and he never paid me.
It was my fault because i trusted him, don't fall for his BS.
We had some words elsewhere and it carried over to covers yesterday he is a sorry motherfucker, and what really made me mad worst then him not paying me was he bashed my family and i lost it for about 15 minutes and acting stupid by stooping to his level.
If you make a wager with him don't do like i did, get someone you trust that has a pay-pal account and send you're money in advance before the game. This way you can get paid.
I'm sorry about getting into you're business Jimmy i just hate to see you end up like i did.
Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
Did he renege on a bet with you Lucan?
Sorry about a reply so late Jimmy i sleep in today.
Now you know me better then anybody here, and you also know i don't put my business on the internet about capping a game or how much money i make.
But this fuck is always trying to make wagers with people here trying to act like he is somebody important.
I would say check is post out at the offers he makes people but you would be there for weeks because he talks so much BS and to filter the post is not worth you wasteing you're time unless you won't too!!!
I was on another sports site talking on a fourm and i met smokie o, and we got to talking about covers.com and he told me his user name as well as me telling him mine....he seem okay and we made a friendly wager on a game and he never paid me.
It was my fault because i trusted him, don't fall for his BS.
We had some words elsewhere and it carried over to covers yesterday he is a sorry motherfucker, and what really made me mad worst then him not paying me was he bashed my family and i lost it for about 15 minutes and acting stupid by stooping to his level.
If you make a wager with him don't do like i did, get someone you trust that has a pay-pal account and send you're money in advance before the game. This way you can get paid.
I'm sorry about getting into you're business Jimmy i just hate to see you end up like i did.
Sorry about a reply so late Jimmy i sleep in today.
Now you know me better then anybody here, and you also know i don't put my business on the internet about capping a game or how much money i make.
But this fuck is always trying to make wagers with people here trying to act like he is somebody important.
I would say check is post out at the offers he makes people but you would be there for weeks because he talks so much BS and to filter the post is not worth you wasteing you're time unless you won't too!!!
I was on another sports site talking on a fourm and i met smokie o, and we got to talking about covers.com and he told me his user name as well as me telling him mine....he seem okay and we made a friendly wager on a game and he never paid me.
It was my fault because i trusted him, don't fall for his BS.
We had some words elsewhere and it carried over to covers yesterday he is a sorry motherfucker, and what really made me mad worst then him not paying me was he bashed my family and i lost it for about 15 minutes and acting stupid by stooping to his level.
If you make a wager with him don't do like i did, get someone you trust that has a pay-pal account and send you're money in advance before the game. This way you can get paid.
I'm sorry about getting into you're business Jimmy i just hate to see you end up like i did.
Thanks Lucan. I appreciate the heads up.
Quote Originally Posted by Lucan:
Sorry about a reply so late Jimmy i sleep in today.
Now you know me better then anybody here, and you also know i don't put my business on the internet about capping a game or how much money i make.
But this fuck is always trying to make wagers with people here trying to act like he is somebody important.
I would say check is post out at the offers he makes people but you would be there for weeks because he talks so much BS and to filter the post is not worth you wasteing you're time unless you won't too!!!
I was on another sports site talking on a fourm and i met smokie o, and we got to talking about covers.com and he told me his user name as well as me telling him mine....he seem okay and we made a friendly wager on a game and he never paid me.
It was my fault because i trusted him, don't fall for his BS.
We had some words elsewhere and it carried over to covers yesterday he is a sorry motherfucker, and what really made me mad worst then him not paying me was he bashed my family and i lost it for about 15 minutes and acting stupid by stooping to his level.
If you make a wager with him don't do like i did, get someone you trust that has a pay-pal account and send you're money in advance before the game. This way you can get paid.
I'm sorry about getting into you're business Jimmy i just hate to see you end up like i did.
Sorry about a reply so late Jimmy i sleep in today.
Now you know me better then anybody here, and you also know i don't put my business on the internet about capping a game or how much money i make.
But this fuck is always trying to make wagers with people here trying to act like he is somebody important.
Is that right?
I would say check is post out at the offers he makes people but you would be there for weeks because he talks so much BS and to filter the post is not worth you wasteing you're time unless you won't too!!!
Please do, I keep my post public for all to see
I was on another sports site talking on a fourm and i met smokie o, and we got to talking about covers.com and he told me his user name as well as me telling him mine....he seem okay and we made a friendly wager on a game and he never paid me.
Would you like to tell us what forum this was? what the game was? and for how much? Don't worry you have time to write eulogies about your health, your father, and Alabama....this shouldn't be very hard.
It was my fault because i trusted him, don't fall for his BS.
Kid you have a social disorder, and now its clear as day you don't have much of a life. Although you have a vivid imagination your trolling this board in the worst way. Its one thing to troll the board with your pro homer Alabama stance but this story above I dont take kindly.
We had some words elsewhere and it carried over to covers yesterday he is a sorry motherfucker, and what really made me mad worst then him not paying me was he bashed my family and i lost it for about 15 minutes and acting stupid by stooping to his level.
Where? what board?
If you make a wager with him don't do like i did, get someone you trust that has a pay-pal account and send you're money in advance before the game. This way you can get paid.
And what did you do exactly? what was the wager? where was this wager placed? You NEVER talk about gambling ON THIS BOARD!, let alone at another. What team would you even bet on...all you do is talk about Alabama!
I'm sorry about getting into you're business Jimmy i just hate to see you end up like i did.
So let me get this correct...Ive met you outside of covers. Told you about Covers and you came and joined. Yet in the 1 thread me and you EVER spoke to each other YOU NEVER BROUGHT UP anything about our suppose meeting or our supposed bet from another board? Okay gotcha
No where in the above thread in all of your crying and rambling do you confront me about paying you on a "bet" we made on ANOTHER board. I usually ignore this type of stuff but this is beyond trolling at this point. You do not play with a man's name in the gambling community whether online or in Vegas. Especially one I worked hard to keep clean and respected on over 5 gambling boards in 8 years. Until you answer the above questions and PROVE your allegations this is the last time I am ever acknowledging your existence again. You have fully embarrassed yourself more then once in the less then 24 hours.
Quote Originally Posted by Lucan:
Sorry about a reply so late Jimmy i sleep in today.
Now you know me better then anybody here, and you also know i don't put my business on the internet about capping a game or how much money i make.
But this fuck is always trying to make wagers with people here trying to act like he is somebody important.
Is that right?
I would say check is post out at the offers he makes people but you would be there for weeks because he talks so much BS and to filter the post is not worth you wasteing you're time unless you won't too!!!
Please do, I keep my post public for all to see
I was on another sports site talking on a fourm and i met smokie o, and we got to talking about covers.com and he told me his user name as well as me telling him mine....he seem okay and we made a friendly wager on a game and he never paid me.
Would you like to tell us what forum this was? what the game was? and for how much? Don't worry you have time to write eulogies about your health, your father, and Alabama....this shouldn't be very hard.
It was my fault because i trusted him, don't fall for his BS.
Kid you have a social disorder, and now its clear as day you don't have much of a life. Although you have a vivid imagination your trolling this board in the worst way. Its one thing to troll the board with your pro homer Alabama stance but this story above I dont take kindly.
We had some words elsewhere and it carried over to covers yesterday he is a sorry motherfucker, and what really made me mad worst then him not paying me was he bashed my family and i lost it for about 15 minutes and acting stupid by stooping to his level.
Where? what board?
If you make a wager with him don't do like i did, get someone you trust that has a pay-pal account and send you're money in advance before the game. This way you can get paid.
And what did you do exactly? what was the wager? where was this wager placed? You NEVER talk about gambling ON THIS BOARD!, let alone at another. What team would you even bet on...all you do is talk about Alabama!
I'm sorry about getting into you're business Jimmy i just hate to see you end up like i did.
So let me get this correct...Ive met you outside of covers. Told you about Covers and you came and joined. Yet in the 1 thread me and you EVER spoke to each other YOU NEVER BROUGHT UP anything about our suppose meeting or our supposed bet from another board? Okay gotcha
No where in the above thread in all of your crying and rambling do you confront me about paying you on a "bet" we made on ANOTHER board. I usually ignore this type of stuff but this is beyond trolling at this point. You do not play with a man's name in the gambling community whether online or in Vegas. Especially one I worked hard to keep clean and respected on over 5 gambling boards in 8 years. Until you answer the above questions and PROVE your allegations this is the last time I am ever acknowledging your existence again. You have fully embarrassed yourself more then once in the less then 24 hours.
The bet is simple. If Alabama opens as the favorite, I win. If LSU opens as the favorite you win. If it's a pick'em, it's a push.
So you believed Alabama would open as pretty much a FG or better because of an outdated article you read. Ive capped both teams and used my power numbers to calculate the spread as stated in POST #36. You then go on to throw "shade" at my line setting skills and also hinted that I dont watch the games I wager on (or something to that effect).
Now you want a bet where I lose 3 points in value! Giving you the ability to push/win money from me with a spread of Ala PK, Ala -1, Ala -1.5, and Ala -2. All of which in the article you regarded as scripture did not have as their spread! Are you kidding me?
If you want this bet there is NO push on LSU PK. Bet is LSU PK or better for me to Ala -.5 or better for you. I will let you have the -1, -1.5, -2 that you did not initially state but I wont give up PK and give you additional point to the spread.
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
The bet is simple. If Alabama opens as the favorite, I win. If LSU opens as the favorite you win. If it's a pick'em, it's a push.
So you believed Alabama would open as pretty much a FG or better because of an outdated article you read. Ive capped both teams and used my power numbers to calculate the spread as stated in POST #36. You then go on to throw "shade" at my line setting skills and also hinted that I dont watch the games I wager on (or something to that effect).
Now you want a bet where I lose 3 points in value! Giving you the ability to push/win money from me with a spread of Ala PK, Ala -1, Ala -1.5, and Ala -2. All of which in the article you regarded as scripture did not have as their spread! Are you kidding me?
If you want this bet there is NO push on LSU PK. Bet is LSU PK or better for me to Ala -.5 or better for you. I will let you have the -1, -1.5, -2 that you did not initially state but I wont give up PK and give you additional point to the spread.
Look here you rip off, you can talk all the shit you won't to, i was willing to eat the money you owe me.
But hell no you had to come on covers.com and ride my ass couldn't you tell by our conversations before you started you're shit with me here. I would not take anymore of you're bullshit.
Now forget about the money you owe me i'm sure i'm not the 1st, i'm just glad i won the bet and didn't lose an had to send you money not knowing i was getting frauded.
You still talking shit for the over the last 3 weeks it's been the same shit. I was hoping it would not come here, but that also is my fault for telling you my user name here.
So fuck off, and stop trying to use forums to sucker bet people.
Next time you bet someone elsewhere besides covers i think you should take my own advance from now on and not give you're information about which and ever site you visit.
You are a scum bag piece of shit and not only do you keep down gradeing me since yesterday you just go on and on.
Damn are you that mad i won the fucking bet...jezzzzzzzz!!!!!!
You got my imformation just send me my money since now its out into the open for everybody to see.
I have been ripped off before, so i will get over it bitch.
Look here you rip off, you can talk all the shit you won't to, i was willing to eat the money you owe me.
But hell no you had to come on covers.com and ride my ass couldn't you tell by our conversations before you started you're shit with me here. I would not take anymore of you're bullshit.
Now forget about the money you owe me i'm sure i'm not the 1st, i'm just glad i won the bet and didn't lose an had to send you money not knowing i was getting frauded.
You still talking shit for the over the last 3 weeks it's been the same shit. I was hoping it would not come here, but that also is my fault for telling you my user name here.
So fuck off, and stop trying to use forums to sucker bet people.
Next time you bet someone elsewhere besides covers i think you should take my own advance from now on and not give you're information about which and ever site you visit.
You are a scum bag piece of shit and not only do you keep down gradeing me since yesterday you just go on and on.
Damn are you that mad i won the fucking bet...jezzzzzzzz!!!!!!
You got my imformation just send me my money since now its out into the open for everybody to see.
I have been ripped off before, so i will get over it bitch.
Look here you rip off, you can talk all the shit you won't to, i was willing to eat the money you owe me.
But hell no you had to come on covers.com and ride my ass couldn't you tell by our conversations before you started you're shit with me here. I would not take anymore of you're bullshit.
Now forget about the money you owe me i'm sure i'm not the 1st, i'm just glad i won the bet and didn't lose an had to send you money not knowing i was getting frauded.
You still talking shit for the over the last 3 weeks it's been the same shit. I was hoping it would not come here, but that also is my fault for telling you my user name here.
So fuck off, and stop trying to use forums to sucker bet people.
Next time you bet someone elsewhere besides covers i think you should take my own advance from now on and not give you're information about which and ever site you visit.
You are a scum bag piece of shit and not only do you keep down gradeing me since yesterday you just go on and on.
Damn are you that mad i won the fucking bet...jezzzzzzzz!!!!!!
You got my imformation just send me my money since now its out into the open for everybody to see.
I have been ripped off before, so i will get over it bitch.
Do you really think a board fill with gamblers who have to deal with crooked books and lowlife sportbooks are gonna believe you without an ounce of proof. The bet we made? The date it was made? What site we met at? You really believe some of the sharpest/devious people on the net are going for this?
Look here you rip off, you can talk all the shit you won't to, i was willing to eat the money you owe me.
But hell no you had to come on covers.com and ride my ass couldn't you tell by our conversations before you started you're shit with me here. I would not take anymore of you're bullshit.
Now forget about the money you owe me i'm sure i'm not the 1st, i'm just glad i won the bet and didn't lose an had to send you money not knowing i was getting frauded.
You still talking shit for the over the last 3 weeks it's been the same shit. I was hoping it would not come here, but that also is my fault for telling you my user name here.
So fuck off, and stop trying to use forums to sucker bet people.
Next time you bet someone elsewhere besides covers i think you should take my own advance from now on and not give you're information about which and ever site you visit.
You are a scum bag piece of shit and not only do you keep down gradeing me since yesterday you just go on and on.
Damn are you that mad i won the fucking bet...jezzzzzzzz!!!!!!
You got my imformation just send me my money since now its out into the open for everybody to see.
I have been ripped off before, so i will get over it bitch.
Do you really think a board fill with gamblers who have to deal with crooked books and lowlife sportbooks are gonna believe you without an ounce of proof. The bet we made? The date it was made? What site we met at? You really believe some of the sharpest/devious people on the net are going for this?
You can bet who you wish, i was just telling someone about our bet you ripped me off on. I could care whether people believe me or not.
You run scams on people, and it's caught up to you plan and simple.
And i could stop answering you and let this thread disappear but you bought out the worst in me last night and i figured i would tell people about you.
Scams don't last forever i'm sure you will come up with another one, because this one is over as far as the people that will see this. Or they will learn like i did.
And to answer you're last post yes people forget a wager made they ripped off, what the hell do you expect people to do call the police.
Just face it, if you would have left this elsewhere and not come here starting shit with me i would have never told people about you.
It's done move on and the other people you try to scam can thank me later.
You can bet who you wish, i was just telling someone about our bet you ripped me off on. I could care whether people believe me or not.
You run scams on people, and it's caught up to you plan and simple.
And i could stop answering you and let this thread disappear but you bought out the worst in me last night and i figured i would tell people about you.
Scams don't last forever i'm sure you will come up with another one, because this one is over as far as the people that will see this. Or they will learn like i did.
And to answer you're last post yes people forget a wager made they ripped off, what the hell do you expect people to do call the police.
Just face it, if you would have left this elsewhere and not come here starting shit with me i would have never told people about you.
It's done move on and the other people you try to scam can thank me later.
You can bet who you wish, i was just telling someone about our bet you ripped me off on. I could care whether people believe me or not.
You run scams on people, and it's caught up to you plan and simple.
And i could stop answering you and let this thread disappear but you bought out the worst in me last night and i figured i would tell people about you.
Scams don't last forever i'm sure you will come up with another one, because this one is over as far as the people that will see this. Or they will learn like i did.
And to answer you're last post yes people forget a wager made they ripped off, what the hell do you expect people to do call the police.
Just face it, if you would have left this elsewhere and not come here starting shit with me i would have never told people about you.
It's done move on and the other people you try to scam can thank me later.
You think this is a joke but I don't...I have contacted the mods and they'll be addressing this soon. If I were you I would re-think this whole thing over or get the "facts" and "proof" ready because slander on a gambling site regarding scamming people is serious allegations. I hope you're prepared for the repercussions. I know you like this site and all but you can get ban for this type of behavior. You'll hear from a mod soon.
Quote Originally Posted by Lucan:
You can bet who you wish, i was just telling someone about our bet you ripped me off on. I could care whether people believe me or not.
You run scams on people, and it's caught up to you plan and simple.
And i could stop answering you and let this thread disappear but you bought out the worst in me last night and i figured i would tell people about you.
Scams don't last forever i'm sure you will come up with another one, because this one is over as far as the people that will see this. Or they will learn like i did.
And to answer you're last post yes people forget a wager made they ripped off, what the hell do you expect people to do call the police.
Just face it, if you would have left this elsewhere and not come here starting shit with me i would have never told people about you.
It's done move on and the other people you try to scam can thank me later.
You think this is a joke but I don't...I have contacted the mods and they'll be addressing this soon. If I were you I would re-think this whole thing over or get the "facts" and "proof" ready because slander on a gambling site regarding scamming people is serious allegations. I hope you're prepared for the repercussions. I know you like this site and all but you can get ban for this type of behavior. You'll hear from a mod soon.
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