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    How is 4-0 ASU a 10 point dog at USC?

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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 2:25 AM ET #1

    I'm not surprised ASU is an underdog here, but double digits? I watch every USC game. Talented group of individual players.. After a loss, good teams bounce back (Florida State vs UCF). But USC seems to go opposite and they struggle against any adversity. 

    ASU has not played any sort of defense but USC coaches haven't figured out how to get the ball to their best players. ASU hasn't beaten the strongest teams but SC has only beaten Utah State.  

    Was thinking it would be -4.5

    I'm thinking ASU. I'm a SC fan but when it comes to betting there is no fandom. What are your thoughts on this game?
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    I'm not surprised ASU is an underdog here, but double digits? I watch every USC game. Talented group of individual players.. After a loss, good teams bounce back (Florida State vs UCF). But USC seems to go opposite and they struggle against any adversity. 

    ASU has not played any sort of defense but USC coaches haven't figured out how to get the ball to their best players. ASU hasn't beaten the strongest teams but SC has only beaten Utah State.  

    Was thinking it would be -4.5

    I'm thinking ASU. I'm a SC fan but when it comes to betting there is no fandom. What are your thoughts on this game?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 3:40 AM ET #2

    Yes, the line is glaring on the surface. I do agree it appears high since the backdoor is always open against a good offensive team.

    Been thinking of reasons not to take ASU, here's what I have thus far...

    - Like USC, ASU would've definitely lost to Alabama and Stanford on the road as well.

    - USC should've beat Utah comfortably if not for 3 turnovers in the red zone. I'm not so confident that ASU would've looked as good at Utah as 'SC did.

    - Utah's defense is much better than ASU's defense and 'SC moved the ball quite well on Utah on the road.

    - ASU should've lost at home to Cal. And they struggled just as much against TTech and UTSA. They also played Northern Arizona. USC would also be 4-0 against those teams.

    - The line actually opened USC -8 and has been bet up. Caesars even has it at -10.5 now. Hmmm..

    - USC has a solid HFA and is desperate for a win.

    Now, I'm not necessarily advocating a play on 'SC, just trying to look at both sides. A "4-0 team getting double digits" is either a blatant attempt for the books to attract ASU money, or a flat out mistake.

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    Yes, the line is glaring on the surface. I do agree it appears high since the backdoor is always open against a good offensive team.

    Been thinking of reasons not to take ASU, here's what I have thus far...

    - Like USC, ASU would've definitely lost to Alabama and Stanford on the road as well.

    - USC should've beat Utah comfortably if not for 3 turnovers in the red zone. I'm not so confident that ASU would've looked as good at Utah as 'SC did.

    - Utah's defense is much better than ASU's defense and 'SC moved the ball quite well on Utah on the road.

    - ASU should've lost at home to Cal. And they struggled just as much against TTech and UTSA. They also played Northern Arizona. USC would also be 4-0 against those teams.

    - The line actually opened USC -8 and has been bet up. Caesars even has it at -10.5 now. Hmmm..

    - USC has a solid HFA and is desperate for a win.

    Now, I'm not necessarily advocating a play on 'SC, just trying to look at both sides. A "4-0 team getting double digits" is either a blatant attempt for the books to attract ASU money, or a flat out mistake.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 3:47 AM ET #3

    When you say or hear people say why so many points it usually means opposite outcome. USC and Michigan both caught my attention. Wow 10+ points to great opponents. That means USC and Mich are worthy plays this week. Play against these types of lines and small road favorites. Usually bait......
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    When you say or hear people say why so many points it usually means opposite outcome. USC and Michigan both caught my attention. Wow 10+ points to great opponents. That means USC and Mich are worthy plays this week. Play against these types of lines and small road favorites. Usually bait......
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 2:52 PM ET #4

    Win or Lose , Arizona St is the play .... They have beaten USC 3 of the last 5 


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    Win or Lose , Arizona St is the play .... They have beaten USC 3 of the last 5 


     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 3:48 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Win or Lose , Arizona St is the play .... They have beaten USC 3 of the last 5 



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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Win or Lose , Arizona St is the play .... They have beaten USC 3 of the last 5 



     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 4:35 PM ET #6

    dont forget these kids in southern cal want the hell outta dodge.. the coach has no business coaching this team and has lost all control of this locker room. i wouldnt bet usc against wayne high school right now.
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    dont forget these kids in southern cal want the hell outta dodge.. the coach has no business coaching this team and has lost all control of this locker room. i wouldnt bet usc against wayne high school right now.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 4:44 PM ET #7

    again, stop overthinking this.  USC is a better team..PERIOD. They have played  3 top D teams and lost.  ASU have played poor team and an FCS.   I like desperate teams and USC with a new QB and head coach will be hungry.  I like USC by 2 TD's easily.  
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    again, stop overthinking this.  USC is a better team..PERIOD. They have played  3 top D teams and lost.  ASU have played poor team and an FCS.   I like desperate teams and USC with a new QB and head coach will be hungry.  I like USC by 2 TD's easily.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 4:45 PM ET #8

    thanks for the tip, guys. adding Arizona State to my list of "late re-load" plays
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    thanks for the tip, guys. adding Arizona State to my list of "late re-load" plays
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 4:51 PM ET #9

    Asu has their #. Didn't they win SU As a 25 point dog last year? Or come close or something?
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    Asu has their #. Didn't they win SU As a 25 point dog last year? Or come close or something?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 8:02 PM ET #10

    Trojenz good at home ATS. stink on the road. that's one reason.
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    Trojenz good at home ATS. stink on the road. that's one reason.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 8:42 PM ET #11

    Could USC win this game by 2 or 3 touchdowns because ASU's defense is awful? Sure. But I give ASU a good chance (~40%) to win the game outright.

    I have a small play on ASU ML. ASU and the points is just a lean for me, I think there's more value at ML +335.

    All that said, o64 is the play in this game.
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    Could USC win this game by 2 or 3 touchdowns because ASU's defense is awful? Sure. But I give ASU a good chance (~40%) to win the game outright.

    I have a small play on ASU ML. ASU and the points is just a lean for me, I think there's more value at ML +335.

    All that said, o64 is the play in this game.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 9:10 PM ET #12

    do you people watch football? 

    ASU cant defend the pass to save their lives/ they also get no push upfront, USC will be up 24 at the half. 

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    do you people watch football? 

    ASU cant defend the pass to save their lives/ they also get no push upfront, USC will be up 24 at the half. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 9:38 PM ET #13

    Anyone remember last year when number 2 at the time Utah went to USC (who was unranked) and Utah was an underdog?  Nobody could understand how Utah was a dog in that game.  And USC proceeded to punch them in the teeth and destroy them.  This line seems really fishy to me.  I don't really know what the hell to think.
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    Anyone remember last year when number 2 at the time Utah went to USC (who was unranked) and Utah was an underdog?  Nobody could understand how Utah was a dog in that game.  And USC proceeded to punch them in the teeth and destroy them.  This line seems really fishy to me.  I don't really know what the hell to think.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 10:36 PM ET #14

    Not sure if anyone listens to Scott Wetzel on Maddog radio, but he does a segment called 'Opposite Picks" where he looks at the top 7 lines that seem "wayyyyy too easy" and goes opposite. This ASU/USC line fits the bill for me. Looking at this my initial thought is no way USC should be laying 10 points to any half way decent team especially one that can put up points the way ASU can but as Scott would say "Nobody beats the boys in Vegas" I don't have the balls to go forward with a strategy like this but its enough to stay away from it entirely. (i.e. same way i felt about Arizona in the NFL only laying 3 to a Bills team that looked god awful the week prior and long behold the Bills win straight up). 
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    Not sure if anyone listens to Scott Wetzel on Maddog radio, but he does a segment called 'Opposite Picks" where he looks at the top 7 lines that seem "wayyyyy too easy" and goes opposite. This ASU/USC line fits the bill for me. Looking at this my initial thought is no way USC should be laying 10 points to any half way decent team especially one that can put up points the way ASU can but as Scott would say "Nobody beats the boys in Vegas" I don't have the balls to go forward with a strategy like this but its enough to stay away from it entirely. (i.e. same way i felt about Arizona in the NFL only laying 3 to a Bills team that looked god awful the week prior and long behold the Bills win straight up). 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 8:52 AM ET #15

    Because USC is going to blow them out by 21 
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    Because USC is going to blow them out by 21 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 8:53 AM ET #16

    Vegas is begging you to take ASU. Good luck!
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    Vegas is begging you to take ASU. Good luck!
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 10:21 AM ET #17

    this is definitely one of those lines that doesnt make sense why USC is favored (or this big.)  usually in these i take the side that the line is skewed for or (more commonly) just sit it out and watch
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    this is definitely one of those lines that doesnt make sense why USC is favored (or this big.)  usually in these i take the side that the line is skewed for or (more commonly) just sit it out and watch
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