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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2011 - 11:55 PM ET #1

    Hello everyone. Please here me out.

    I have been taking a beating these past few weeks. No, not just a slap on the wrist, a loss of a few units, a good old fashioned beating, and I am sick of it. I use a site when I look for early lines, and take a peek at the percentages of bets (sides). This particular site lists the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY and this is determined by the amount of money wagered on that particular side at Sportsbook.com which is of course a Las Vegas sportsbook. The site that has this information is vegasinsider.com.

    I wish I could backtrack the past few days, because I have been earnestly looking at the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY but lets take a look at the rundown for today. I do understand that this TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY does change but if we are going to use this system on a daily basis, I would use the cutoff at 645 PM EST for the 7-9 oclock games. 

    #1 - LA Lakers Pt Spread *LOSS*
    #2 - Duke Blue Devils *LOSS*
    #3- AFC All Stars *LOSS* 
    #4- OK City Thunder *LOSS*
    #5- Denver Nuggets *LOSS*
    #6- NFC All Stars *DUPLICATE*
    #7- Duke ML *LOSS*
    #8- Boston Celtics *DUPLICATE*
    #9 - Washington *PENDING*
    #10- AFC All Stars OVER *WIN*

    VEGAS RECORD: 6-1 (Including 1 pending, and 2 duplicate bets)

    Now folks, I looked at this yesterday, and the results were VERY similar, it was around 6-4.. The thing also to remember is that there are duplicates, As you see Celtics point spread and Lakers point spread, but more money was on the Lakers point spread, therefore you would bet the Celtics. I really wish I would have kept a tally during the NFL season, because I could of sworn that 90% of the time, the #1 bet in the 1 oclock timeslot never covered, and most times lost outright. Duke ML was the 2nd top bet this afternoon, St Johns was nowhere to be seen. 

    I am not telling you this system will work, but I am telling you how can you lose betting with Vegas? I am going to track some games, I am not wagering anything. I will simply use a units system, the Top 5 Bets will be 2 units and the bets 6 thru 10 will be 1 unit. Lets see how it goes this week, hope I can get some followers to track along with me. If there are 2 teams in the top 10 that are facing eachother, I will simply go against the team that has more money wagered on them.

    Remember, I am fading the public. I will fade the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY. Lets go boys and see how it goes!

    BOL TO ALL!
    B2W
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    Hello everyone. Please here me out.

    I have been taking a beating these past few weeks. No, not just a slap on the wrist, a loss of a few units, a good old fashioned beating, and I am sick of it. I use a site when I look for early lines, and take a peek at the percentages of bets (sides). This particular site lists the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY and this is determined by the amount of money wagered on that particular side at Sportsbook.com which is of course a Las Vegas sportsbook. The site that has this information is vegasinsider.com.

    I wish I could backtrack the past few days, because I have been earnestly looking at the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY but lets take a look at the rundown for today. I do understand that this TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY does change but if we are going to use this system on a daily basis, I would use the cutoff at 645 PM EST for the 7-9 oclock games. 

    #1 - LA Lakers Pt Spread *LOSS*
    #2 - Duke Blue Devils *LOSS*
    #3- AFC All Stars *LOSS* 
    #4- OK City Thunder *LOSS*
    #5- Denver Nuggets *LOSS*
    #6- NFC All Stars *DUPLICATE*
    #7- Duke ML *LOSS*
    #8- Boston Celtics *DUPLICATE*
    #9 - Washington *PENDING*
    #10- AFC All Stars OVER *WIN*

    VEGAS RECORD: 6-1 (Including 1 pending, and 2 duplicate bets)

    Now folks, I looked at this yesterday, and the results were VERY similar, it was around 6-4.. The thing also to remember is that there are duplicates, As you see Celtics point spread and Lakers point spread, but more money was on the Lakers point spread, therefore you would bet the Celtics. I really wish I would have kept a tally during the NFL season, because I could of sworn that 90% of the time, the #1 bet in the 1 oclock timeslot never covered, and most times lost outright. Duke ML was the 2nd top bet this afternoon, St Johns was nowhere to be seen. 

    I am not telling you this system will work, but I am telling you how can you lose betting with Vegas? I am going to track some games, I am not wagering anything. I will simply use a units system, the Top 5 Bets will be 2 units and the bets 6 thru 10 will be 1 unit. Lets see how it goes this week, hope I can get some followers to track along with me. If there are 2 teams in the top 10 that are facing eachother, I will simply go against the team that has more money wagered on them.

    Remember, I am fading the public. I will fade the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY. Lets go boys and see how it goes!

    BOL TO ALL!
    B2W
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 12:00 AM ET #3

    Interesting view!

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    Interesting view!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 12:00 AM ET #4

    hope it works
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 12:01 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by BET_TO_WIN:

    Hello everyone. Please here me out.

    I have been taking a beating these past few weeks. No, not just a slap on the wrist, a loss of a few units, a good old fashioned beating, and I am sick of it. I use a site when I look for early lines, and take a peek at the percentages of bets (sides). This particular site lists the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY and this is determined by the amount of money wagered on that particular side at Sportsbook.com which is of course a Las Vegas sportsbook. The site that has this information is vegasinsider.com.

    I wish I could backtrack the past few days, because I have been earnestly looking at the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY but lets take a look at the rundown for today. I do understand that this TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY does change but if we are going to use this system on a daily basis, I would use the cutoff at 645 PM EST for the 7-9 oclock games. 

    #1 - LA Lakers Pt Spread *LOSS*
    #2 - Duke Blue Devils *LOSS*
    #3- AFC All Stars *LOSS* 
    #4- OK City Thunder *LOSS*
    #5- Denver Nuggets *LOSS*
    #6- NFC All Stars *DUPLICATE*
    #7- Duke ML *LOSS*
    #8- Boston Celtics *DUPLICATE*
    #9 - Washington *PENDING*
    #10- AFC All Stars OVER *WIN*

    VEGAS RECORD: 6-1 (Including 1 pending, and 2 duplicate bets)

    Now folks, I looked at this yesterday, and the results were VERY similar, it was around 6-4.. The thing also to remember is that there are duplicates, As you see Celtics point spread and Lakers point spread, but more money was on the Lakers point spread, therefore you would bet the Celtics. I really wish I would have kept a tally during the NFL season, because I could of sworn that 90% of the time, the #1 bet in the 1 oclock timeslot never covered, and most times lost outright. Duke ML was the 2nd top bet this afternoon, St Johns was nowhere to be seen. 

    I am not telling you this system will work, but I am telling you how can you lose betting with Vegas? I am going to track some games, I am not wagering anything. I will simply use a units system, the Top 5 Bets will be 2 units and the bets 6 thru 10 will be 1 unit. Lets see how it goes this week, hope I can get some followers to track along with me. If there are 2 teams in the top 10 that are facing eachother, I will simply go against the team that has more money wagered on them.

    Remember, I am fading the public. I will fade the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY. Lets go boys and see how it goes!

    BOL TO ALL!
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    Hello everyone. Please here me out.

    I have been taking a beating these past few weeks. No, not just a slap on the wrist, a loss of a few units, a good old fashioned beating, and I am sick of it. I use a site when I look for early lines, and take a peek at the percentages of bets (sides). This particular site lists the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY and this is determined by the amount of money wagered on that particular side at Sportsbook.com which is of course a Las Vegas sportsbook. The site that has this information is vegasinsider.com.

    I wish I could backtrack the past few days, because I have been earnestly looking at the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY but lets take a look at the rundown for today. I do understand that this TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY does change but if we are going to use this system on a daily basis, I would use the cutoff at 645 PM EST for the 7-9 oclock games. 

    #1 - LA Lakers Pt Spread *LOSS*
    #2 - Duke Blue Devils *LOSS*
    #3- AFC All Stars *LOSS* 
    #4- OK City Thunder *LOSS*
    #5- Denver Nuggets *LOSS*
    #6- NFC All Stars *DUPLICATE*
    #7- Duke ML *LOSS*
    #8- Boston Celtics *DUPLICATE*
    #9 - Washington *PENDING*
    #10- AFC All Stars OVER *WIN*

    VEGAS RECORD: 6-1 (Including 1 pending, and 2 duplicate bets)

    Now folks, I looked at this yesterday, and the results were VERY similar, it was around 6-4.. The thing also to remember is that there are duplicates, As you see Celtics point spread and Lakers point spread, but more money was on the Lakers point spread, therefore you would bet the Celtics. I really wish I would have kept a tally during the NFL season, because I could of sworn that 90% of the time, the #1 bet in the 1 oclock timeslot never covered, and most times lost outright. Duke ML was the 2nd top bet this afternoon, St Johns was nowhere to be seen. 

    I am not telling you this system will work, but I am telling you how can you lose betting with Vegas? I am going to track some games, I am not wagering anything. I will simply use a units system, the Top 5 Bets will be 2 units and the bets 6 thru 10 will be 1 unit. Lets see how it goes this week, hope I can get some followers to track along with me. If there are 2 teams in the top 10 that are facing eachother, I will simply go against the team that has more money wagered on them.

    Remember, I am fading the public. I will fade the TOP 10 BETS OF THE DAY. Lets go boys and see how it goes!

    BOL TO ALL!
    B2W
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 12:03 AM ET #6

    Squares finally got killed in college basketball this weekend with a number of the most popular bets going down in flames. This is the time of year where sharps really start to have a major edge on the public as teams become more and more desperate and the potential for let-downs and look-aheads increases.

    With that said, a strict "fade the public" stragedy has proven to be an average system at best and an unprofitable myth at worst. Don't indiscriminately fade the consensus picks because of one bad weekend, but do bear in mind that the idea of "bad lines" or "Vegas mistakes" are fallacies created by people setting themselves up for failure. All lines are set for a reason and those that appear to good to be true generally in fact are...

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    Squares finally got killed in college basketball this weekend with a number of the most popular bets going down in flames. This is the time of year where sharps really start to have a major edge on the public as teams become more and more desperate and the potential for let-downs and look-aheads increases.

    With that said, a strict "fade the public" stragedy has proven to be an average system at best and an unprofitable myth at worst. Don't indiscriminately fade the consensus picks because of one bad weekend, but do bear in mind that the idea of "bad lines" or "Vegas mistakes" are fallacies created by people setting themselves up for failure. All lines are set for a reason and those that appear to good to be true generally in fact are...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

    Squares finally got killed in college basketball this weekend with a number of the most popular bets going down in flames. This is the time of year where sharps really start to have a major edge on the public as teams become more and more desperate and the potential for let-downs and look-aheads increases.

    With that said, a strict "fade the public" stragedy has proven to be an average system at best and an unprofitable myth at worst. Don't indiscriminately fade the consensus picks because of one bad weekend, but do bear in mind that the idea of "bad lines" or "Vegas mistakes" are fallacies created by people setting themselves up for failure. All lines are set for a reason and those that appear to good to be true generally in fact are...


    I totally agree with you bro. This is why I want to see how it goes this week - I am not wagering any money, simply because I was murdered this week, but I am just testing it out. 

    But of course, in hindsight, we always tend to see trends when we are losing. Thanks for your response, and it simply could be a weekend the sharps got killed. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

    Squares finally got killed in college basketball this weekend with a number of the most popular bets going down in flames. This is the time of year where sharps really start to have a major edge on the public as teams become more and more desperate and the potential for let-downs and look-aheads increases.

    With that said, a strict "fade the public" stragedy has proven to be an average system at best and an unprofitable myth at worst. Don't indiscriminately fade the consensus picks because of one bad weekend, but do bear in mind that the idea of "bad lines" or "Vegas mistakes" are fallacies created by people setting themselves up for failure. All lines are set for a reason and those that appear to good to be true generally in fact are...


    I totally agree with you bro. This is why I want to see how it goes this week - I am not wagering any money, simply because I was murdered this week, but I am just testing it out. 

    But of course, in hindsight, we always tend to see trends when we are losing. Thanks for your response, and it simply could be a weekend the sharps got killed. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 12:32 AM ET #8

    I am on the same website. YOU THINK THE INFO PORTRAYED IS LEGIT. Personally I dont care who bets what but I do look at matchups thru Vegasinsider.com and when I see % over 70 on moneylines and reverse line movements I act accordingly. Its hitting roughly 70 % now. Good work but these sites aim to win and I dont put much credo in what is written. It could be to set the smart ones like yourself up. WHO THE FUK KNOWS
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    I am on the same website. YOU THINK THE INFO PORTRAYED IS LEGIT. Personally I dont care who bets what but I do look at matchups thru Vegasinsider.com and when I see % over 70 on moneylines and reverse line movements I act accordingly. Its hitting roughly 70 % now. Good work but these sites aim to win and I dont put much credo in what is written. It could be to set the smart ones like yourself up. WHO THE FUK KNOWS
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 12:34 AM ET #9

    Right now Im looking for coference dogs that are read yto give up as they have no shot at tourneys or winning their confeence. The odds go against them for about 2 to 3 weeks then there is a corection.
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    Right now Im looking for coference dogs that are read yto give up as they have no shot at tourneys or winning their confeence. The odds go against them for about 2 to 3 weeks then there is a corection.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 12:38 AM ET #10

    hmmm...fading the "public"...never seen this angle before.

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    hmmm...fading the "public"...never seen this angle before.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 4:43 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    hmmm...fading the "public"...never seen this angle before.

      Something negative, what a suprise
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    hmmm...fading the "public"...never seen this angle before.

      Something negative, what a suprise
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 5:15 AM ET #12

    WILL U BE POSTING THEM, LETS DO IT!!!!!!!!!
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    WILL U BE POSTING THEM, LETS DO IT!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 9:59 AM ET #13

    Yes I will post them at around 6pm tonight.
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 11:18 AM ET #14

    Alot of money coming in on Texas and the Hoyas (especially the mL)

    Looking at a nice Texas A&M and Louisville play tonight.

    Will make all plays final around 6.
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    Alot of money coming in on Texas and the Hoyas (especially the mL)

    Looking at a nice Texas A&M and Louisville play tonight.

    Will make all plays final around 6.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 11:21 AM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by BET_TO_WIN:

    Alot of money coming in on Hoyas (especially the mL)
    Where, exactly? How do you know this?
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    Alot of money coming in on Hoyas (especially the mL)
    Where, exactly? How do you know this?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 11:25 AM ET #16

    Thats why you play only 1st half over or unders in CBB.
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 11:46 AM ET #17

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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 6:45 PM ET #18

    Ok, here are the plays for 1/31

    Texas A&M +1.5 (2 UNITS)
    Memphis Grizzlies +1.5 (2 UNITS)
    NJ Nets +3.5 (2 UNITS)
    Louisville +5 (2 UNITS)
    Milwaukee Bucks +3.5 (2 UNITS)
    Louisville ML (1 UNIT)
    Cleveland Cavs (1 UNIT)

    Risking 12 Units ($1200) - Lets see how it goes.. BOL Folks!


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    Ok, here are the plays for 1/31

    Texas A&M +1.5 (2 UNITS)
    Memphis Grizzlies +1.5 (2 UNITS)
    NJ Nets +3.5 (2 UNITS)
    Louisville +5 (2 UNITS)
    Milwaukee Bucks +3.5 (2 UNITS)
    Louisville ML (1 UNIT)
    Cleveland Cavs (1 UNIT)

    Risking 12 Units ($1200) - Lets see how it goes.. BOL Folks!


     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 6:48 PM ET #19

    Hold on, you're taking the Cavs ML? 

    On A&M and Nets myself. BOL
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    Hold on, you're taking the Cavs ML? 

    On A&M and Nets myself. BOL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 6:51 PM ET #20

    May the fade be with you



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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 6:51 PM ET #21

     bol B_T_W 

    that actually looks like a  card to me......  

     leanin NJN and L-ville; done booked the other 3
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     bol B_T_W 

    that actually looks like a  card to me......  

     leanin NJN and L-ville; done booked the other 3
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 6:57 PM ET #22

    on grizz and am.. good luck
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    on grizz and am.. good luck
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 7:00 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by BET_TO_WIN:

    Ok, here are the plays for 1/31

    Texas A&M +1.5 (2 UNITS)
    Memphis Grizzlies +1.5 (2 UNITS)
    NJ Nets +3.5 (2 UNITS)
    Louisville +5 (2 UNITS)
    Milwaukee Bucks +3.5 (2 UNITS)
    Louisville ML (1 UNIT)
    Cleveland Cavs (1 UNIT)

    Risking 12 Units ($1200) - Lets see how it goes.. BOL Folks!




    Just want to thank you for taking the time to present the public plays from a compendium of websites.  Fading the public is the way to go my friend.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by BET_TO_WIN:

    Ok, here are the plays for 1/31

    Texas A&M +1.5 (2 UNITS)
    Memphis Grizzlies +1.5 (2 UNITS)
    NJ Nets +3.5 (2 UNITS)
    Louisville +5 (2 UNITS)
    Milwaukee Bucks +3.5 (2 UNITS)
    Louisville ML (1 UNIT)
    Cleveland Cavs (1 UNIT)

    Risking 12 Units ($1200) - Lets see how it goes.. BOL Folks!




    Just want to thank you for taking the time to present the public plays from a compendium of websites.  Fading the public is the way to go my friend.   
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 7:38 PM ET #24

    GL
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2011 - 8:01 PM ET #25

    Good system but the ML plays can no be reciprocal liek spread plays that public plays when doing your fade. You should only do this on spreads and totals (and posssibly low spread moneylines) for easier tracking. The cavs are like +1300 or something near that, which is basically a guaranteed loss. Will just put another cork in your system IMO. Looks good though
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    Good system but the ML plays can no be reciprocal liek spread plays that public plays when doing your fade. You should only do this on spreads and totals (and posssibly low spread moneylines) for easier tracking. The cavs are like +1300 or something near that, which is basically a guaranteed loss. Will just put another cork in your system IMO. Looks good though
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