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    gabe0425
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 12:20 PM ET #1276

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    Win streaks this season (no cover) Completed
    3-0,,,,,195 (117-78)
    4-0 ,,,,72,,,(39-33)
    5-0,,,,,30,,,(8-22),,,,,,,,,,,,
    6-0,,,,,17,,,(9-8)
    7-0,,,,,8,,,,,(3-5)
    8-0,,,,,4,,,,,(3-1)
    9-0,,,,,1,,,,,(1-0)
    10-0,,,0,,,,,(0-0)
    __________________________
    Loss Streaks to Cover Completed
    0-3,,,,,,,163,,,(73-90)
    0-4,,,,,,,86,,,,,(43-43)
    0-5,,,,,,,37,,,,,(15-22)
    0-6,,,,,,,20,,,,,(9-11)
    0-7,,,,,,,9,,,,,,,(7-2),,,,,,,,,,
    0-8,,,,,,,2,,,,,,,(0-2),,beware of teams covering higher 
    0-9,,,,,,,2.......(0-2)
    0-10,,,,,2,,,,,,,(0-2)
    0-11,,,,,2,,,,,,,(2-0)
    0-12,,,,,0,,,,,,,(0-0)
    This reflects all streaks and their progression 
    for season to date. As list shows WIN streaks can't cover by streak at 8-0 where LOSS streaks seem to cover by Level 7
    This also gives you an Insight at what level most streaks stop
    It also gives you the differential between wins and loss and odds makers difficulty areas of concern in attempting to balance out plays


    Does this mean if a team has won the past 3-10 games ATS would fall into the top category? In addition the team that has fallen into one of those streak category shows that in the parenthesis () is their (Win - Lost) ATS record when at that specific streak number ATS?

    In opposite, if a team has lost against the spread the past 3-10 games they would fall under the bottom category? concluding the same as if a team falls under that specific loss streak the parenthesis () is their (Win-Lost) ATS record at that specific streak number?

    Thank you for the clarifications. Appreciate your thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    Win streaks this season (no cover) Completed
    3-0,,,,,195 (117-78)
    4-0 ,,,,72,,,(39-33)
    5-0,,,,,30,,,(8-22),,,,,,,,,,,,
    6-0,,,,,17,,,(9-8)
    7-0,,,,,8,,,,,(3-5)
    8-0,,,,,4,,,,,(3-1)
    9-0,,,,,1,,,,,(1-0)
    10-0,,,0,,,,,(0-0)
    __________________________
    Loss Streaks to Cover Completed
    0-3,,,,,,,163,,,(73-90)
    0-4,,,,,,,86,,,,,(43-43)
    0-5,,,,,,,37,,,,,(15-22)
    0-6,,,,,,,20,,,,,(9-11)
    0-7,,,,,,,9,,,,,,,(7-2),,,,,,,,,,
    0-8,,,,,,,2,,,,,,,(0-2),,beware of teams covering higher 
    0-9,,,,,,,2.......(0-2)
    0-10,,,,,2,,,,,,,(0-2)
    0-11,,,,,2,,,,,,,(2-0)
    0-12,,,,,0,,,,,,,(0-0)
    This reflects all streaks and their progression 
    for season to date. As list shows WIN streaks can't cover by streak at 8-0 where LOSS streaks seem to cover by Level 7
    This also gives you an Insight at what level most streaks stop
    It also gives you the differential between wins and loss and odds makers difficulty areas of concern in attempting to balance out plays


    Does this mean if a team has won the past 3-10 games ATS would fall into the top category? In addition the team that has fallen into one of those streak category shows that in the parenthesis () is their (Win - Lost) ATS record when at that specific streak number ATS?

    In opposite, if a team has lost against the spread the past 3-10 games they would fall under the bottom category? concluding the same as if a team falls under that specific loss streak the parenthesis () is their (Win-Lost) ATS record at that specific streak number?

    Thank you for the clarifications. Appreciate your thread
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 12:23 PM ET #1277

    At casino now what to do
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    At casino now what to do
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 12:36 PM ET #1278

    example

    3-0 win streaks this season, 195,,,to not cover,117 to cover 78)=60% 3-0 streak teams will not cover

    Plays today
    Lou Tech 5 unit play
    Minn 1 unit play
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    example

    3-0 win streaks this season, 195,,,to not cover,117 to cover 78)=60% 3-0 streak teams will not cover

    Plays today
    Lou Tech 5 unit play
    Minn 1 unit play
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 12:39 PM ET #1279

    also took Denver as think Manning's year to be John Elway
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    also took Denver as think Manning's year to be John Elway
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 12:42 PM ET #1280

    Help me!!  I'm trying to understand your system.  I think I'm beginning to get it, but I still have questions.

    Green Bay Wisc is on a 6-0 run, with a -10 spread at Illinois Chicago.  You give them a pass because the 6-0 streak is 8-9 . . . 53%.   If 3 more 6-0 streaks come in, with the same game (GB at IllChi), then we would bet on the 6-0 streak to cover because the overall streak would be 8 losses with 12 wins  . . . 60%. 

    Would the -10 spread be set different by the bookies for the same game?


    Second Question:  Why are wins listed 1st sometimes and losses listed 1st sometimes?
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    Help me!!  I'm trying to understand your system.  I think I'm beginning to get it, but I still have questions.

    Green Bay Wisc is on a 6-0 run, with a -10 spread at Illinois Chicago.  You give them a pass because the 6-0 streak is 8-9 . . . 53%.   If 3 more 6-0 streaks come in, with the same game (GB at IllChi), then we would bet on the 6-0 streak to cover because the overall streak would be 8 losses with 12 wins  . . . 60%. 

    Would the -10 spread be set different by the bookies for the same game?


    Second Question:  Why are wins listed 1st sometimes and losses listed 1st sometimes?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 12:45 PM ET #1281

    What about Louisiana Tech star player being out
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    What about Louisiana Tech star player being out
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 12:47 PM ET #1282

    Odds makers should readjust point spread if a player of importance is out so i stay with play as posted 

    gabe,,, you got it
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    Odds makers should readjust point spread if a player of importance is out so i stay with play as posted 

    gabe,,, you got it
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 12:55 PM ET #1283

    goat,,i never concern myself about the point spread as normally i know  days b 4 what streak team i'm playing due to streaks record and if record says they will not cover/or will cover that is where i follow the record at that time
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    goat,,i never concern myself about the point spread as normally i know  days b 4 what streak team i'm playing due to streaks record and if record says they will not cover/or will cover that is where i follow the record at that time
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 12:57 PM ET #1284

    Thx stevo
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    Thx stevo
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 1:07 PM ET #1285

    I never concern myself about the point spread as the records reflect the odds makers ability to balance out the play and where you see various differences between a cover and no cover and if % is at 60 or above then that is a play to follow

    Lou tech is at 5-0 and that record says ANY TEAM AT 5-0 will COVER as Record reflects at 22-8 to do the opposite of what streak system expects and that is to not cover at 8-22 but it is not happening so we reverse play 22-8 to take advantage of odds makers shortage in points against them as record reflects
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    I never concern myself about the point spread as the records reflect the odds makers ability to balance out the play and where you see various differences between a cover and no cover and if % is at 60 or above then that is a play to follow

    Lou tech is at 5-0 and that record says ANY TEAM AT 5-0 will COVER as Record reflects at 22-8 to do the opposite of what streak system expects and that is to not cover at 8-22 but it is not happening so we reverse play 22-8 to take advantage of odds makers shortage in points against them as record reflects
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 1:13 PM ET #1286

    now all i need to see is Lou tech cover today as 5-0 records reflect 22-8
    as yesterday at 4 covers and 1 no cover of all 5-0 teams that played
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    now all i need to see is Lou tech cover today as 5-0 records reflect 22-8
    as yesterday at 4 covers and 1 no cover of all 5-0 teams that played
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 1:52 PM ET #1287

    lou tech not looking good ,,,

    Minn looking good

    after i was told Lou Tech player out maybe should had lowered my wager ,,odds makers only giving +3 and is that all their starter was worth 
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    lou tech not looking good ,,,

    Minn looking good

    after i was told Lou Tech player out maybe should had lowered my wager ,,odds makers only giving +3 and is that all their starter was worth 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 2:03 PM ET #1288

    Minn Half time 43-41

    Lou Tech +3 half time 39-47
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    Minn Half time 43-41

    Lou Tech +3 half time 39-47
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 2:28 PM ET #1289

    this la tech game is gonna make me drink,,,

    La tech 50-54
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    this la tech game is gonna make me drink,,,

    La tech 50-54
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 3:38 PM ET #1290

    Both plays took it in the shorts I was on both
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    Both plays took it in the shorts I was on both
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 3:48 PM ET #1291

    well boys guess after yesterday going 4-1 we were due for a let down today and to be honest at 22-9 now to continue we may need to temper this streak level due to its extremely good performance of late as nothing lasts forever and we had this dip in early January around 1/3/14 which system was at 12-3 so it was expected but you never know when it will show up
    ________________________________________________________
    Appears Minn did not cover against 3-0 Iowa although record was calling for a no cover
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    well boys guess after yesterday going 4-1 we were due for a let down today and to be honest at 22-9 now to continue we may need to temper this streak level due to its extremely good performance of late as nothing lasts forever and we had this dip in early January around 1/3/14 which system was at 12-3 so it was expected but you never know when it will show up
    ________________________________________________________
    Appears Minn did not cover against 3-0 Iowa although record was calling for a no cover
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 4:59 PM ET #1292

    eagle I know the feeling 

    Guess after 5-0 going 4-1 yesterday should had figured it would turn against the system as no system can continue to cover regardless of the streak

    but what is nice Hofstra and Smu both at 4-0 so we will get another 5-0 win streak  team after today and we will get that lost wager back i can tell you that.

    Green bay Pheonix who we just won with on fri Night succumbs to ATS and can't cover and 6-0 streaks to not cover goes to 10-8 although we passed on it due to past record at 9-8 so passing it was the correct play

    Virginia will be the next 5-0 win streak that plays on 1/20 so we have a couple days to recover but we will be ready

    Iowa although covered today against system moves to 4-0 and if can get by that level we could wind up playing them at 5-0 but that is another play away 

    0-5 Virginia Tech plays later today and that streak record says they will not cover at 15-22 although below our normal % to play but may try it for one unit to not cover


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    eagle I know the feeling 

    Guess after 5-0 going 4-1 yesterday should had figured it would turn against the system as no system can continue to cover regardless of the streak

    but what is nice Hofstra and Smu both at 4-0 so we will get another 5-0 win streak  team after today and we will get that lost wager back i can tell you that.

    Green bay Pheonix who we just won with on fri Night succumbs to ATS and can't cover and 6-0 streaks to not cover goes to 10-8 although we passed on it due to past record at 9-8 so passing it was the correct play

    Virginia will be the next 5-0 win streak that plays on 1/20 so we have a couple days to recover but we will be ready

    Iowa although covered today against system moves to 4-0 and if can get by that level we could wind up playing them at 5-0 but that is another play away 

    0-5 Virginia Tech plays later today and that streak record says they will not cover at 15-22 although below our normal % to play but may try it for one unit to not cover


     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 5:21 PM ET #1293

    V.Tech is 0-5 ATS & N.Dame is 0-3 ATS & IS 1-8 ATS as favorite
    Alot of players on Oregon tonight, they won 6 of last 7 vs Oregonst &
    swept them last yr.Oregon is 0-6 ATS.
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    V.Tech is 0-5 ATS & N.Dame is 0-3 ATS & IS 1-8 ATS as favorite
    Alot of players on Oregon tonight, they won 6 of last 7 vs Oregonst &
    swept them last yr.Oregon is 0-6 ATS.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 5:27 PM ET #1294

    Quote Originally Posted by RLeith35:

    V.Tech is 0-5 ATS & N.Dame is 0-3 ATS & IS 1-8 ATS as favorite
    Alot of players on Oregon tonight, they won 6 of last 7 vs Oregonst &
    swept them last yr.Oregon is 0-6 ATS.

    so would Oregon be the play? maybe for the newbiews when you guys explain these things you could just quickly list the play ! haha sorry for bing a diva !
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLeith35:

    V.Tech is 0-5 ATS & N.Dame is 0-3 ATS & IS 1-8 ATS as favorite
    Alot of players on Oregon tonight, they won 6 of last 7 vs Oregonst &
    swept them last yr.Oregon is 0-6 ATS.

    so would Oregon be the play? maybe for the newbiews when you guys explain these things you could just quickly list the play ! haha sorry for bing a diva !
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 9:05 PM ET #1295

    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    eagle I know the feeling 

    Guess after 5-0 going 4-1 yesterday should had figured it would turn against the system as no system can continue to cover regardless of the streak

    but what is nice Hofstra and Smu both at 4-0 so we will get another 5-0 win streak  team after today and we will get that lost wager back i can tell you that.

    Green bay Pheonix who we just won with on fri Night succumbs to ATS and can't cover and 6-0 streaks to not cover goes to 10-8 although we passed on it due to past record at 9-8 so passing it was the correct play

    Virginia will be the next 5-0 win streak that plays on 1/20 so we have a couple days to recover but we will be ready

    Iowa although covered today against system moves to 4-0 and if can get by that level we could wind up playing them at 5-0 but that is another play away 

    0-5 Virginia Tech plays later today and that streak record says they will not cover at 15-22 although below our normal % to play but may try it for one unit to not cover


    Hey I appreciate the work your doing. I took Cal yesterday and won a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevo1:

    eagle I know the feeling 

    Guess after 5-0 going 4-1 yesterday should had figured it would turn against the system as no system can continue to cover regardless of the streak

    but what is nice Hofstra and Smu both at 4-0 so we will get another 5-0 win streak  team after today and we will get that lost wager back i can tell you that.

    Green bay Pheonix who we just won with on fri Night succumbs to ATS and can't cover and 6-0 streaks to not cover goes to 10-8 although we passed on it due to past record at 9-8 so passing it was the correct play

    Virginia will be the next 5-0 win streak that plays on 1/20 so we have a couple days to recover but we will be ready

    Iowa although covered today against system moves to 4-0 and if can get by that level we could wind up playing them at 5-0 but that is another play away 

    0-5 Virginia Tech plays later today and that streak record says they will not cover at 15-22 although below our normal % to play but may try it for one unit to not cover


    Hey I appreciate the work your doing. I took Cal yesterday and won a little.
     
    BigTimeSwimma
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 10:53 PM ET #1296

    Aren't we pounding Xavier tomorrow? As they're 8-0? Or do we play them to not cover?
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    Aren't we pounding Xavier tomorrow? As they're 8-0? Or do we play them to not cover?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 11:06 PM ET #1297

    So your system is saying to take VA-7/Marquette +2.5?
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    So your system is saying to take VA-7/Marquette +2.5?
     
    gabe0425
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 11:07 PM ET #1298

    And depaul?
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    And depaul?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2014 - 11:41 PM ET #1299

    evening guys ,,,been watching the NFL and at least had Manning and co for a few units

    Not happy with how streak records went today but hey noting is purrfect 

    the 5-0 streaks took a hit but in all honesty system was looking for a no cover but with the record to not cover at 8-22 we reversed the play as we have been doing since early January so we will have pit falls along the way but the records of past 3 years speaks for itself and is all recorded back with in the thread for any newbees just now looking in
    I can resurrect them if requested

    Been putting plays together for tomorrow and we do have another 5-0 streak team playing Virginia so i will play them to cover for 5 units but plz play within your budget as i have a large bankroll due to playing this streak system since day one

    8-0 Xavier also plays and that streak record to not cover is very good this year at 3-1 they will not cover at 75% to stop
    ( those teams that tried to go to 9-0 were Umass,Oregon and
    Creighton and odds makers stopped them and just Unlv was able to get to 9-0 streak and then they failed to cover the spread and is the only team able to get to 9-0 this season

    The odds Xavier will get higher is 75% against them and past teams that have tried are proof the odds are not in their favor

    0-7 Marquette is on the other side of thing at 0-7 needing a cover and that streak record to cover is 7-2 like Penn St was on Saturday in which they covered and stopped their loss streak along with 6 other loss streak teams and just 2 East ILL and N Dakota have excelled much higher this season to the 0-11 level b 4 they both finally covered and should Marquette not cover at their current streak the could go to 0-11 as the other 2 loss streak teams did,So this game is their Moment of truth to cover the Point spread before all hell could break loose and go higher as the other 2 Pathetic teams

    The balance of other streak plays are in the lower streak level and i'll touch on those later tomorrow


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    evening guys ,,,been watching the NFL and at least had Manning and co for a few units

    Not happy with how streak records went today but hey noting is purrfect 

    the 5-0 streaks took a hit but in all honesty system was looking for a no cover but with the record to not cover at 8-22 we reversed the play as we have been doing since early January so we will have pit falls along the way but the records of past 3 years speaks for itself and is all recorded back with in the thread for any newbees just now looking in
    I can resurrect them if requested

    Been putting plays together for tomorrow and we do have another 5-0 streak team playing Virginia so i will play them to cover for 5 units but plz play within your budget as i have a large bankroll due to playing this streak system since day one

    8-0 Xavier also plays and that streak record to not cover is very good this year at 3-1 they will not cover at 75% to stop
    ( those teams that tried to go to 9-0 were Umass,Oregon and
    Creighton and odds makers stopped them and just Unlv was able to get to 9-0 streak and then they failed to cover the spread and is the only team able to get to 9-0 this season

    The odds Xavier will get higher is 75% against them and past teams that have tried are proof the odds are not in their favor

    0-7 Marquette is on the other side of thing at 0-7 needing a cover and that streak record to cover is 7-2 like Penn St was on Saturday in which they covered and stopped their loss streak along with 6 other loss streak teams and just 2 East ILL and N Dakota have excelled much higher this season to the 0-11 level b 4 they both finally covered and should Marquette not cover at their current streak the could go to 0-11 as the other 2 loss streak teams did,So this game is their Moment of truth to cover the Point spread before all hell could break loose and go higher as the other 2 Pathetic teams

    The balance of other streak plays are in the lower streak level and i'll touch on those later tomorrow


     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 20, 2014 - 11:55 AM ET #1300

    So just to make sure I understand, you like UNC and Marquette today?
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    So just to make sure I understand, you like UNC and Marquette today?
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