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    Ncaab ATS Streak Breakers for 2013/2014

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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2013 - 7:49 PM ET #1

    This system does not normally come into play until there are at least a level 3/4 win or loss streak.Which normally then does not start until mid or last week of November near thanksgiving


    The object is to play win or loss streaks to END,The higher the Streak the Stronger the play to end,As you will see there will be some Teams that go 13-0 and 0-13 and higher right into March Maddness and the object is to pick those proper moments,unless you like following winners and losers to continue,Which could also be a good play

    Last year by thanksgiving there were teams reaching that level 4/5 already. San Diego was already at 0-5 by the holiday and if my memory is correct they were bad in 2012.but by 0-5 they actually covered finally

    On the winning side i believe Cal Northridge was already on a 7-0 ATS by Thanksgiving  and at 4-0 win ATS streak. We had 8 teams pending play with a 1-1 record already

    As the season continued i believe the best play level was at the level 5 win or loss streak,but i need to research this from years past to confirm

    looking to see how this plays out this year . I picked this system up from another thread a few years back and it has done me well over the years 

    Looking to get started earlier this year but with low wagers
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    This system does not normally come into play until there are at least a level 3/4 win or loss streak.Which normally then does not start until mid or last week of November near thanksgiving


    The object is to play win or loss streaks to END,The higher the Streak the Stronger the play to end,As you will see there will be some Teams that go 13-0 and 0-13 and higher right into March Maddness and the object is to pick those proper moments,unless you like following winners and losers to continue,Which could also be a good play

    Last year by thanksgiving there were teams reaching that level 4/5 already. San Diego was already at 0-5 by the holiday and if my memory is correct they were bad in 2012.but by 0-5 they actually covered finally

    On the winning side i believe Cal Northridge was already on a 7-0 ATS by Thanksgiving  and at 4-0 win ATS streak. We had 8 teams pending play with a 1-1 record already

    As the season continued i believe the best play level was at the level 5 win or loss streak,but i need to research this from years past to confirm

    looking to see how this plays out this year . I picked this system up from another thread a few years back and it has done me well over the years 

    Looking to get started earlier this year but with low wagers
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2013 - 2:36 PM ET #2

    South Dakota State at San Diego   always slow out the box 0-5 last year 1st 5 games and also year 2011
    S Dakota St did very well last year if i recall


    Hope at CSU Northridge
    Doubt this will be offered

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    South Dakota State at San Diego   always slow out the box 0-5 last year 1st 5 games and also year 2011
    S Dakota St did very well last year if i recall


    Hope at CSU Northridge
    Doubt this will be offered

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2013 - 4:19 PM ET #3

    Guys cancel that note regarding San Diego as believe that was the year prior,hate when i don't title years on past sheets

    Cal Northridge did go 7-0 win streak b 4 losing on 11/28 to Ucla 56-82 last year 2012

    San Diego did lose their first 3 games going 0-3 but then did win/Cover on 11/16 over Siena and for the record one of their 3 losses was against Cal Northridge on 11/15
    That at lest clears up that prior post

    Applachia St was one of the better ATS teams out the box winning its first 10 wager games and then went on a 0-5 loss streak
    St Louis had  one of the highest ATS win Streaks of all going 11-0 but the streak was later in season 1/23 and ended on 3-6-13

     These Streaks do run weird but if you can pick them up at right time you can go for the ride and also get off b 4 you get murdered and go broke.
    I now have all of last years streaks and some do look inviting and we need to see how these teams and their formation do this season

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    Guys cancel that note regarding San Diego as believe that was the year prior,hate when i don't title years on past sheets

    Cal Northridge did go 7-0 win streak b 4 losing on 11/28 to Ucla 56-82 last year 2012

    San Diego did lose their first 3 games going 0-3 but then did win/Cover on 11/16 over Siena and for the record one of their 3 losses was against Cal Northridge on 11/15
    That at lest clears up that prior post

    Applachia St was one of the better ATS teams out the box winning its first 10 wager games and then went on a 0-5 loss streak
    St Louis had  one of the highest ATS win Streaks of all going 11-0 but the streak was later in season 1/23 and ended on 3-6-13

     These Streaks do run weird but if you can pick them up at right time you can go for the ride and also get off b 4 you get murdered and go broke.
    I now have all of last years streaks and some do look inviting and we need to see how these teams and their formation do this season

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2013 - 4:57 PM ET #4

    Georgetown had a nice win streak also but it did not start until 1/21 and ended on 2/23 and was a 9-0 ATS 

    I believe these were the highest win ATS streaks for 2013

    now how about the Longest Losing streaks 

    Iupui rings in at 0-10 and that was just the first of 3 losing streaks
    11/12 to 12/23  0-10 (out the box)
    1/10 to 1/26      0-4
    2-2- to 3-2 went 0-7
    and yes the were the worst Team for 2013 ATS per Covers rankings #340 with a record of 6-22-0

    Duquense
    St Pete
    Port St
    Marshall
    Drexel
    Sac St
    Citadel
    SEMO
    Bradly
    Utah St
    Ol Dom 
    all also had ugly losing streaks of 0-7 or higher during the 2012/ 2013 Season

    Some of the better win streaks in 2012/2013 season after ones listed above were per my records
    8-0
    Ill Chi 
    Fordham 
    Ind St 
    Fla 
    7-0
    Utah 
    Wash St
    Wyom
    Utep
    Okla
    Rider
    Mizz St
    Samford

    I have another 18 teams that went 6-0

    so we should have some very interesting games this 2014 season  and nice to see who continues and who doesn't



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    Georgetown had a nice win streak also but it did not start until 1/21 and ended on 2/23 and was a 9-0 ATS 

    I believe these were the highest win ATS streaks for 2013

    now how about the Longest Losing streaks 

    Iupui rings in at 0-10 and that was just the first of 3 losing streaks
    11/12 to 12/23  0-10 (out the box)
    1/10 to 1/26      0-4
    2-2- to 3-2 went 0-7
    and yes the were the worst Team for 2013 ATS per Covers rankings #340 with a record of 6-22-0

    Duquense
    St Pete
    Port St
    Marshall
    Drexel
    Sac St
    Citadel
    SEMO
    Bradly
    Utah St
    Ol Dom 
    all also had ugly losing streaks of 0-7 or higher during the 2012/ 2013 Season

    Some of the better win streaks in 2012/2013 season after ones listed above were per my records
    8-0
    Ill Chi 
    Fordham 
    Ind St 
    Fla 
    7-0
    Utah 
    Wash St
    Wyom
    Utep
    Okla
    Rider
    Mizz St
    Samford

    I have another 18 teams that went 6-0

    so we should have some very interesting games this 2014 season  and nice to see who continues and who doesn't



     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2013 - 1:50 PM ET #5

    Morn guys getting  for season to start

    Looking at Covers top ATS teams from 2012/2013 will be interesting to see how many teams can stay in top 25 ATS

    Appalachian St had a great year going 17-8-1 and hitting the chart at #9 in covers ATS at years end and that early 10-0 run from day one was impressive

    Can they get off on the right foot come Friday with a favorable Point Spread is the ? vs  a very formidable NC St

    Sometimes the better plays are the ones you don't pay much attention to early in season,guess we will see

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    Morn guys getting  for season to start

    Looking at Covers top ATS teams from 2012/2013 will be interesting to see how many teams can stay in top 25 ATS

    Appalachian St had a great year going 17-8-1 and hitting the chart at #9 in covers ATS at years end and that early 10-0 run from day one was impressive

    Can they get off on the right foot come Friday with a favorable Point Spread is the ? vs  a very formidable NC St

    Sometimes the better plays are the ones you don't pay much attention to early in season,guess we will see

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2013 - 4:04 PM ET #6

    hey are there any BIG TIME BJ Players here at covers

    looking to discuss strategy's 

    There is a lot of correct strategy in counting expired cards to know what is left in deck and ability to wager higher knowing High cards are at the PREMIUM or on a equal balance with low cards and the PLAYER has an equal chance to win as DEALER

    Most casino's play with a starting shoe of 6 decks 312 cards and a final cut (REMOVAL) by dealer of 11/2 decks or 78 cards or close to that as possible

    I have found after playing and cutting cards that of the deck and half that is cut from shoe there usually is 26-to 36 high cards in those 78 (over 500 Hands) cards removed thus the balance of low cards 52-42 on average(H/L)

    This equates to 120 high cards and 192 low cards in 6 decks=312
    If on ave a deck and 1/2 (78) were removed perfectly the # of high cards removed would be 30 and low 48=78 but we all know it does vary but for argument lets say it happens exactly

    That leaves us in the shoe for play 90 high Cards and 144 Low cards = 234 + 78 removed = 312 cards in 6 decks

    As the cards expire from play when do most card counters start wagering Higher ( minus 20 or at what # do most card counters find is the correct NEGATIVE # to start wagering LARGE)
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    hey are there any BIG TIME BJ Players here at covers

    looking to discuss strategy's 

    There is a lot of correct strategy in counting expired cards to know what is left in deck and ability to wager higher knowing High cards are at the PREMIUM or on a equal balance with low cards and the PLAYER has an equal chance to win as DEALER

    Most casino's play with a starting shoe of 6 decks 312 cards and a final cut (REMOVAL) by dealer of 11/2 decks or 78 cards or close to that as possible

    I have found after playing and cutting cards that of the deck and half that is cut from shoe there usually is 26-to 36 high cards in those 78 (over 500 Hands) cards removed thus the balance of low cards 52-42 on average(H/L)

    This equates to 120 high cards and 192 low cards in 6 decks=312
    If on ave a deck and 1/2 (78) were removed perfectly the # of high cards removed would be 30 and low 48=78 but we all know it does vary but for argument lets say it happens exactly

    That leaves us in the shoe for play 90 high Cards and 144 Low cards = 234 + 78 removed = 312 cards in 6 decks

    As the cards expire from play when do most card counters start wagering Higher ( minus 20 or at what # do most card counters find is the correct NEGATIVE # to start wagering LARGE)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2013 - 9:08 AM ET #7

    Best of Luck..
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    Best of Luck..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2013 - 10:02 AM ET #8

    Well Appalachian St was not able to repeat last years 10-0 start as they lost yesterday 77-98 getting 14

    Its a new year,welcome to 2013/14 ncaab
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    Well Appalachian St was not able to repeat last years 10-0 start as they lost yesterday 77-98 getting 14

    Its a new year,welcome to 2013/14 ncaab
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2013 - 2:30 PM ET #9

    Jumped on a few games yesterday using last years ATS standings and went 5-3 awaiting streak plays later this month

    Can't believe G town letme down as expected a better performance out of them
    my other 2 were
    Appalachia St and Hofstra ,both loosers

    Troy.Houston,fresno,and geo were my others

    today i have 
    Youngstown
    E Kentucky
    Citadel
    Loy Mrymt
    Grand Canyon
    Hawaii
     BOL in your plays
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    Jumped on a few games yesterday using last years ATS standings and went 5-3 awaiting streak plays later this month

    Can't believe G town letme down as expected a better performance out of them
    my other 2 were
    Appalachia St and Hofstra ,both loosers

    Troy.Houston,fresno,and geo were my others

    today i have 
    Youngstown
    E Kentucky
    Citadel
    Loy Mrymt
    Grand Canyon
    Hawaii
     BOL in your plays
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2013 - 2:33 PM ET #10

    will be interesting to see what IUPUI does when they play their first game
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    will be interesting to see what IUPUI does when they play their first game
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2013 - 1:51 PM ET #11

    well after yesterday we now have 44 1-0 ATS ncaab teams in covers top ATS teams


    Current Top 25 ATS Teams in Ncaaf as of 11/10/13

    #1 Wisconsin 
    #2 Houston
    #3 Baylor
    #4 Mizz
    #5 Auburn
    #6 N Texas
    #7 Fla St
    #8 Oregon
    #9 Buffalo
    #10 Duke
    #11 Fla Atl Off
    #12 Cen Fla
    #13 Ohio St Off
    #14 Toledo Off
    #15 Geo St Off
    #16 Ball St
    #17 Minn
    #18Tulane
    #19 Col St
    #20 Alab
    #21 N ILL Off
    #22 Okla St
    #23 Ucla
    # 24 B Green
    #25 Marshall

    Ones in Bold all won yesterday i believe
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    well after yesterday we now have 44 1-0 ATS ncaab teams in covers top ATS teams


    Current Top 25 ATS Teams in Ncaaf as of 11/10/13

    #1 Wisconsin 
    #2 Houston
    #3 Baylor
    #4 Mizz
    #5 Auburn
    #6 N Texas
    #7 Fla St
    #8 Oregon
    #9 Buffalo
    #10 Duke
    #11 Fla Atl Off
    #12 Cen Fla
    #13 Ohio St Off
    #14 Toledo Off
    #15 Geo St Off
    #16 Ball St
    #17 Minn
    #18Tulane
    #19 Col St
    #20 Alab
    #21 N ILL Off
    #22 Okla St
    #23 Ucla
    # 24 B Green
    #25 Marshall

    Ones in Bold all won yesterday i believe
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2013 - 5:26 PM ET #12

    Srtill awaiting ATS streaks to get higher  both win and loss as still at the 2-0 and 0-2 although Tenn St is at 0-3,,,Hopefully with in another week we should have some interesting plays

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    Srtill awaiting ATS streaks to get higher  both win and loss as still at the 2-0 and 0-2 although Tenn St is at 0-3,,,Hopefully with in another week we should have some interesting plays

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 11:13 AM ET #13

    17 teams are at 0-2 ATS
    1 team is at 0-3 ATS
    16 teams at 2-0
    need another couple of weeks

    So what teams will continue their ATS to the good or bad

    as noted by Thanksgiving we already had teams at level 4 W/L
    last year
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    17 teams are at 0-2 ATS
    1 team is at 0-3 ATS
    16 teams at 2-0
    need another couple of weeks

    So what teams will continue their ATS to the good or bad

    as noted by Thanksgiving we already had teams at level 4 W/L
    last year
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 11:14 AM ET #14

    where did this team Grand Canyon come from as never heard of them till this year
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    where did this team Grand Canyon come from as never heard of them till this year
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2013 - 1:56 PM ET #15

    well were getting closer to some plays
    3-0 St Marys
    0-3 we have 3 teams
    Tenn St
    S Dakota St ( Surprise)to me though were pretty good LY
    Bost Coll

    need teams to reach level 4 at least to STOP
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    well were getting closer to some plays
    3-0 St Marys
    0-3 we have 3 teams
    Tenn St
    S Dakota St ( Surprise)to me though were pretty good LY
    Bost Coll

    need teams to reach level 4 at least to STOP
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2013 - 2:20 PM ET #16

    0-3 Tenn St plays Sat vs Wichita St at 1-0-1  could they become the first 0-4 team for 2014

    3-0 St Mary's play on Sat also vs Drake at 1-0-0,can they rise to 4-0

    Bost Coll at 0-3 is a surprise to me as usually they have a pretty good team plays Fla Atl on Sunday Don't think Fla Atl has played yet as can't find them listed in Covers ATS
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    0-3 Tenn St plays Sat vs Wichita St at 1-0-1  could they become the first 0-4 team for 2014

    3-0 St Mary's play on Sat also vs Drake at 1-0-0,can they rise to 4-0

    Bost Coll at 0-3 is a surprise to me as usually they have a pretty good team plays Fla Atl on Sunday Don't think Fla Atl has played yet as can't find them listed in Covers ATS
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2013 - 6:47 PM ET #17

    to date we have in Ncaab W/L Streaks
    6 Teams with an 0-3 loss record
    Bost Col
    Loy Chi
    La Salle
    Marist
    S Dakota St
    Davidson
    Is this the sign of the times for these Teams for 2014

    We further have the following with ATS win streaks at
    3-0
    St Mary's
    Wyom
    Neb Omaha

    Getting closer to plays

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    to date we have in Ncaab W/L Streaks
    6 Teams with an 0-3 loss record
    Bost Col
    Loy Chi
    La Salle
    Marist
    S Dakota St
    Davidson
    Is this the sign of the times for these Teams for 2014

    We further have the following with ATS win streaks at
    3-0
    St Mary's
    Wyom
    Neb Omaha

    Getting closer to plays

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2013 - 7:00 PM ET #18

    failed to note Tenn St was at 0-3 and finally covered the other day in game #4 so they are the first team to stop a losing streak but just at level #3 This level will become very large due to its low # so i usually do not mess with trying to keep it accurate due to the quantity of teams that WILL meet this plateau for 2013/14.It is nice to review it early in season b 4 all hell breaks loose just to get a feel who is for real and who isn't
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    failed to note Tenn St was at 0-3 and finally covered the other day in game #4 so they are the first team to stop a losing streak but just at level #3 This level will become very large due to its low # so i usually do not mess with trying to keep it accurate due to the quantity of teams that WILL meet this plateau for 2013/14.It is nice to review it early in season b 4 all hell breaks loose just to get a feel who is for real and who isn't
     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2013 - 7:20 PM ET #19

    Breaking News Wyoming just won again today and now are 4-0 already.They could be an early play to win next start or are they now due to lose

    appears there's going to be a lot more DEATHS after today 
    Appalachia St
    Davidson again
    La Salle
    Marist

    I will update all after the day is over

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    Breaking News Wyoming just won again today and now are 4-0 already.They could be an early play to win next start or are they now due to lose

    appears there's going to be a lot more DEATHS after today 
    Appalachia St
    Davidson again
    La Salle
    Marist

    I will update all after the day is over

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2013 - 7:23 PM ET #20

    Quick note appears IUPUI is on its way to lose its first game

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    Quick note appears IUPUI is on its way to lose its first game

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2013 - 7:06 PM ET #21

    7 teams at 0-3 as of today
    Bost Col
    Loy Chi
    La Salle
    Marist
    S Dakota St
    Davidson
    N ILL
    looking for all to continue to 0-4

    5 teams at 3-0 as of today
    Wyom
    Neb Omaha
    Conn
    Utah St
    Kent St
    looking for all to STOP but preferably at level 4 so will pass for now
    one team streak stopped at 0-3 Tenn St
    Two teams at 3-0 streak stopped St Mary,SJS
    no win streaks at 4-0
    No loss streaks at 0-4 as of now
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    7 teams at 0-3 as of today
    Bost Col
    Loy Chi
    La Salle
    Marist
    S Dakota St
    Davidson
    N ILL
    looking for all to continue to 0-4

    5 teams at 3-0 as of today
    Wyom
    Neb Omaha
    Conn
    Utah St
    Kent St
    looking for all to STOP but preferably at level 4 so will pass for now
    one team streak stopped at 0-3 Tenn St
    Two teams at 3-0 streak stopped St Mary,SJS
    no win streaks at 4-0
    No loss streaks at 0-4 as of now
     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2013 - 7:12 PM ET #22

    cancel note regarding Wyoming as picked up their win twice as they are just 3-0 to date

    Must wait for entire day to end b 4 posing records as covers posts final records immed upon game finishing and easy to get errors
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    cancel note regarding Wyoming as picked up their win twice as they are just 3-0 to date

    Must wait for entire day to end b 4 posing records as covers posts final records immed upon game finishing and easy to get errors
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 12:03 PM ET #23

    Morn bro's lets get this ranking correct now that its a new day and records can be confirmed

    There are 5 teams at 0-3 streaks
    Loy Chi
    La Salle
    Marist
    S Dak St
    Davidson
    there are 2 Teams at 0-4 streak
    N ILL
    B College

    There are 7 Teams at  3-0 Streaks ( as noted this level 3 can get BIG Quickly with all Teams in Mix) Why i like # 4 and larger
    Wyoming
    Neb Omaha
    Conn
    Utah St
    Kent St
    Loy Mrymt
    Pacific
    There are no Teams at 4-0 as of today,but give it a few days
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    Morn bro's lets get this ranking correct now that its a new day and records can be confirmed

    There are 5 teams at 0-3 streaks
    Loy Chi
    La Salle
    Marist
    S Dak St
    Davidson
    there are 2 Teams at 0-4 streak
    N ILL
    B College

    There are 7 Teams at  3-0 Streaks ( as noted this level 3 can get BIG Quickly with all Teams in Mix) Why i like # 4 and larger
    Wyoming
    Neb Omaha
    Conn
    Utah St
    Kent St
    Loy Mrymt
    Pacific
    There are no Teams at 4-0 as of today,but give it a few days
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 12:16 PM ET #24

    Streak Records as of 11/17 close
    0-5,,,,,,0-0,,,,,
    0-4,,,,, 0-0,,,,,, N ILL,B/C (2 Pending)
    0-3,,,,, 1-2,,,,,5 Teams pending (see above)
    ____________________________________
    5-0,,,,,0-0
    4-0,,,,,0-0
    3-0,,,,we have 7 teams at this level( see above)

    No team has gone higher as of 11/17
    Stay tuned
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    Streak Records as of 11/17 close
    0-5,,,,,,0-0,,,,,
    0-4,,,,, 0-0,,,,,, N ILL,B/C (2 Pending)
    0-3,,,,, 1-2,,,,,5 Teams pending (see above)
    ____________________________________
    5-0,,,,,0-0
    4-0,,,,,0-0
    3-0,,,,we have 7 teams at this level( see above)

    No team has gone higher as of 11/17
    Stay tuned
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2013 - 4:46 PM ET #25

    here's the ?,, of the 7 at 3-0 who will be at 4-0 with their next start
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    here's the ?,, of the 7 at 3-0 who will be at 4-0 with their next start
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