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    Who will win Icehockey?

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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2014 - 5:26 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    Out of the ones listed I think USA has most value they have IMO the best goalie in the tourney and a very balanced team.  If they can score enough they should be at least in semis and then who knows.  I still think(hope) Canada gets it done but it will all ride on fragile Frankie and fragile Frankie II in nets that will dictate if we Gold or bust.


    I agree with you, except the Fragile Frankie comment. I like our goaltenders and don't see either of them letting us down. On to your other point, I think the USA has the best value. I like Canada to win (maybe a bit biased) but I don't see Russia doing too much. Their defence is subpar, and their team offence is filled with shoot-first players, so chemistry could be an issue. Sweden is missing Henrik Sedin, which means Daniel is almost useless without him. Their key players are aging, so Rask will have a big job ahead of him. The USA has no real weaknesses from what I see. They have a young, physical core up front, solid defence and a world-class goaltender. At +700, I think that's the best value in this tourney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    Out of the ones listed I think USA has most value they have IMO the best goalie in the tourney and a very balanced team.  If they can score enough they should be at least in semis and then who knows.  I still think(hope) Canada gets it done but it will all ride on fragile Frankie and fragile Frankie II in nets that will dictate if we Gold or bust.


    I agree with you, except the Fragile Frankie comment. I like our goaltenders and don't see either of them letting us down. On to your other point, I think the USA has the best value. I like Canada to win (maybe a bit biased) but I don't see Russia doing too much. Their defence is subpar, and their team offence is filled with shoot-first players, so chemistry could be an issue. Sweden is missing Henrik Sedin, which means Daniel is almost useless without him. Their key players are aging, so Rask will have a big job ahead of him. The USA has no real weaknesses from what I see. They have a young, physical core up front, solid defence and a world-class goaltender. At +700, I think that's the best value in this tourney.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2014 - 5:28 PM ET #27

    My bad. I just remembered that Rask is Finnish, not Swedish. The above comment still holds true for Lundqvist.
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    My bad. I just remembered that Rask is Finnish, not Swedish. The above comment still holds true for Lundqvist.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2014 - 7:17 PM ET #28

    Swedish men no chance ... Henrik Sedin OUT ... Daniel 19 game scoring drought (I'm a Nucks fan) Franzen out too ?  Keep it simple, bet on Canada.
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    Swedish men no chance ... Henrik Sedin OUT ... Daniel 19 game scoring drought (I'm a Nucks fan) Franzen out too ?  Keep it simple, bet on Canada.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2014 - 11:15 AM ET #29

    I actually watched some of the US and Switzerland.  Amanda Kessel can play a little.  
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    I actually watched some of the US and Switzerland.  Amanda Kessel can play a little.  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2014 - 7:23 PM ET #30

    Crap shoot between Russia and Canada..... teams are stacked to insanity..... never counting out USA and sweden is dangerous this year.

    Russians and swedes though will excel in the bigger ice surface. More room for their smaller quicker speedier guys.... they might dog out those big defensemen. But Canada has some seriously skilled guys too. These games are a little harder to cap because of the bigger ice surface. Also shootouts will be key. Not sure who has the goaltending edge..... I'd say USA has top notch goal tending hard to count them out as well.
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    Crap shoot between Russia and Canada..... teams are stacked to insanity..... never counting out USA and sweden is dangerous this year.

    Russians and swedes though will excel in the bigger ice surface. More room for their smaller quicker speedier guys.... they might dog out those big defensemen. But Canada has some seriously skilled guys too. These games are a little harder to cap because of the bigger ice surface. Also shootouts will be key. Not sure who has the goaltending edge..... I'd say USA has top notch goal tending hard to count them out as well.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2014 - 10:10 PM ET #31

    For all the people backing Finland, I just want to point out that that odds for top goalscorer for Finland favour Jussi Jokinen. Do you really feel confident betting on a team who has Jussi Jokinen as the goal scorer their most relying on?
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    For all the people backing Finland, I just want to point out that that odds for top goalscorer for Finland favour Jussi Jokinen. Do you really feel confident betting on a team who has Jussi Jokinen as the goal scorer their most relying on?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2014 - 11:02 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:


    LOL, USA have the three best goalies in the tournament.

    Disagree on that statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clepto:


    LOL, USA have the three best goalies in the tournament.

    Disagree on that statement.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2014 - 11:15 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by canadaguy_25:

    For all the people backing Finland, I just want to point out that that odds for top goalscorer for Finland favour Jussi Jokinen. Do you really feel confident betting on a team who has Jussi Jokinen as the goal scorer their most relying on?

    You dont think that guy can skate? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaguy_25:

    For all the people backing Finland, I just want to point out that that odds for top goalscorer for Finland favour Jussi Jokinen. Do you really feel confident betting on a team who has Jussi Jokinen as the goal scorer their most relying on?

    You dont think that guy can skate? 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2014 - 12:03 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    You dont think that guy can skate? 


    I don't think that guy would make the roster for Canada, Russia, Sweden or the USA. That just shows the lack of firepower for Finland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    You dont think that guy can skate? 


    I don't think that guy would make the roster for Canada, Russia, Sweden or the USA. That just shows the lack of firepower for Finland.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 11:55 AM ET #35

    got sweden men at +500, good value
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    got sweden men at +500, good value
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 2:17 PM ET #36

    Sure is funny how USA and Finland were the 2 teams to blow up the scoreboard on the first day. The only team that impressed me that I watched was the States
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    Sure is funny how USA and Finland were the 2 teams to blow up the scoreboard on the first day. The only team that impressed me that I watched was the States
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 3:54 PM ET #37

    I think after seeing all the Men's teams play that USA and Finland looked the best.
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    I think after seeing all the Men's teams play that USA and Finland looked the best.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 5:29 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Coatsy:

    I think after seeing all the Men's teams play that USA and Finland looked the best.

    That can certainly change.  

    The top 5 are all in the mix for medals, although I'm not sold on Russia just yet. This stuff ebbs and flows as the tournament goes on.  

    Canada
    Sweden
    Finland
    US
    Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coatsy:

    I think after seeing all the Men's teams play that USA and Finland looked the best.

    That can certainly change.  

    The top 5 are all in the mix for medals, although I'm not sold on Russia just yet. This stuff ebbs and flows as the tournament goes on.  

    Canada
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    Finland
    US
    Russia

     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 7:10 PM ET #39

    I took Canada and Finland 

    USA to me is a top 2 team but had to make a choice

    Russia will flake out

    Sweden blows
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    I took Canada and Finland 

    USA to me is a top 2 team but had to make a choice

    Russia will flake out

    Sweden blows
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 3:57 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by HatOnBed:

    Swedish men.  Canadian women


    It's just been announced that Henrik Zetterberg is out for the remainder of the Olympics. Sweden is done. I figured they'd have a hard time overcoming injuries to Henrik Sedin and Johan Franzen, but this hammers the nail in their coffin, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatOnBed:

    Swedish men.  Canadian women


    It's just been announced that Henrik Zetterberg is out for the remainder of the Olympics. Sweden is done. I figured they'd have a hard time overcoming injuries to Henrik Sedin and Johan Franzen, but this hammers the nail in their coffin, IMO.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 10:48 AM ET #41

    I wouldnt count Czech out just yet.... 
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    I wouldnt count Czech out just yet.... 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 1:14 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by canadaguy_25:



    I don't think that guy would make the roster for Canada, Russia, Sweden or the USA. That just shows the lack of firepower for Finland.

    K, now im pretty sure as hell that you dont watch icehockey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaguy_25:



    I don't think that guy would make the roster for Canada, Russia, Sweden or the USA. That just shows the lack of firepower for Finland.

    K, now im pretty sure as hell that you dont watch icehockey.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2014 - 9:47 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by canadaguy_25:



    I don't think that guy would make the roster for Canada, Russia, Sweden or the USA. That just shows the lack of firepower for Finland.

    K, i hope that you are now watching this Finland vs. Russia game so you can see how wrong you are. Jokinen is absolutely playing around with these vodkos.


    If Jokinen was on Russias roster he would BY FAR be the best player. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by canadaguy_25:



    I don't think that guy would make the roster for Canada, Russia, Sweden or the USA. That just shows the lack of firepower for Finland.

    K, i hope that you are now watching this Finland vs. Russia game so you can see how wrong you are. Jokinen is absolutely playing around with these vodkos.


    If Jokinen was on Russias roster he would BY FAR be the best player. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2014 - 3:57 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    K, i hope that you are now watching this Finland vs. Russia game so you can see how wrong you are. Jokinen is absolutely playing around with these vodkos.


    If Jokinen was on Russias roster he would BY FAR be the best player. 


    Do you have a hard-on for Jokinen? He's an alright player, and I'll admit he's playing quite well in the Olympics, but I stand by my statement that he wouldn't even make the roster for Canada or USA.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:


    K, i hope that you are now watching this Finland vs. Russia game so you can see how wrong you are. Jokinen is absolutely playing around with these vodkos.


    If Jokinen was on Russias roster he would BY FAR be the best player. 


    Do you have a hard-on for Jokinen? He's an alright player, and I'll admit he's playing quite well in the Olympics, but I stand by my statement that he wouldn't even make the roster for Canada or USA.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 10:16 AM ET #45

    I think USA for men and Canada for women
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 10:33 AM ET #46

    Sweden blows

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    Right into the gold medal game.  
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    Sweden blows

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    Right into the gold medal game.  
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 10:39 AM ET #47

    I took USA men -115 to win 1 unit 

    USA USA USA !!!

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    I took USA men -115 to win 1 unit 

    USA USA USA !!!

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2014 - 10:57 AM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by phillyfranko:

    I took USA men -115 to win 1 unit 

    USA USA USA !!!


    I hope you win, but think you lose.  
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    I took USA men -115 to win 1 unit 

    USA USA USA !!!


    I hope you win, but think you lose.  
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