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    wizardofroz
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 3:31 AM ET #4251

    Quote Originally Posted by BunkMoreland:

    How is going to the gym rude?
    They know u are an ex mike linebacker who rarely missed a tackle
    U spent time in the weight room before when u lived around them

     At least College Gambler has his priorities in order, as nothing is more important than your health, and he got a solid workout in to start the day off right.  And I am sure his family can attest to the fact that he rarely missed a tackle.   

    And even though the family has probably always been there for him, College Gambler should blame, berate, and cuss them out.  Because, even though they know he is a tackling machine, they don't even realize how special and incredibly gifted, that their son is at handicapping and betting.

    College Gambler, regardless of the two losses today, this is still a mild bump in the road, as you are still kicking a$$ in your short time as a pro.  You always come back strong after this, and I will be looking forward to your next 1K play or two on Sunday, to get this freight train back on track once again.   

     All aboard the money train, as everything will be back to normal, with the conductor, College Gambler behind the wheels.   

      
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunkMoreland:

    How is going to the gym rude?
    They know u are an ex mike linebacker who rarely missed a tackle
    U spent time in the weight room before when u lived around them

     At least College Gambler has his priorities in order, as nothing is more important than your health, and he got a solid workout in to start the day off right.  And I am sure his family can attest to the fact that he rarely missed a tackle.   

    And even though the family has probably always been there for him, College Gambler should blame, berate, and cuss them out.  Because, even though they know he is a tackling machine, they don't even realize how special and incredibly gifted, that their son is at handicapping and betting.

    College Gambler, regardless of the two losses today, this is still a mild bump in the road, as you are still kicking a$$ in your short time as a pro.  You always come back strong after this, and I will be looking forward to your next 1K play or two on Sunday, to get this freight train back on track once again.   

     All aboard the money train, as everything will be back to normal, with the conductor, College Gambler behind the wheels.   

      
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 3:37 AM ET #4252

    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:



    Do you have any idea what percentage he'd have to hit on $200-400 bets to reach $100,000? Cmon.

     Even though he is in a MILD slump, I believe College Gambler is one of the few people in the world, that can make this happen.  Billy Walters...not so much.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:



    Do you have any idea what percentage he'd have to hit on $200-400 bets to reach $100,000? Cmon.

     Even though he is in a MILD slump, I believe College Gambler is one of the few people in the world, that can make this happen.  Billy Walters...not so much.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 3:43 AM ET #4253

    Quote Originally Posted by BunkMoreland:

    Hey glbsports leave him alone he will bounce back with a 2k bet tomorrow

    He always bounces back, because he is that good.  These recent losses are not going to slow down a winner like College Gambler.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunkMoreland:

    Hey glbsports leave him alone he will bounce back with a 2k bet tomorrow

    He always bounces back, because he is that good.  These recent losses are not going to slow down a winner like College Gambler.  
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 3:46 AM ET #4254

    I must say even though I have been busting cgs balls a bit, the idiotic posts from scalabrine are annoying
    So scalabrine n others said stay away from the ticket window with family?? Why scalabrine?
    He is the one betting not u. Guy moves across country to bet and he gunna listen to u? 
    Why would anyone listen to ur advice on a random betting site?
    Scalabrine needs to get a life n worry about his own crappy bets
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    I must say even though I have been busting cgs balls a bit, the idiotic posts from scalabrine are annoying
    So scalabrine n others said stay away from the ticket window with family?? Why scalabrine?
    He is the one betting not u. Guy moves across country to bet and he gunna listen to u? 
    Why would anyone listen to ur advice on a random betting site?
    Scalabrine needs to get a life n worry about his own crappy bets
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 3:48 AM ET #4255

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Im 5-5 in K plays now... Started 3-0 then 5-2 so obviously a bad run. But it's not like I'm betting a thousand a game I've made around 60 bets and only 10K plays... I never risked more than 3% of my bankroll on any game.. Some of u idiots don't realize that
    What is your bankroll?
    You can t count your living expense as your business bankroll, especially if you are trying to start up a new business. You have to be able to sustain your living for at least 6 month without expecting a pay from new business. That is minimum.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    Im 5-5 in K plays now... Started 3-0 then 5-2 so obviously a bad run. But it's not like I'm betting a thousand a game I've made around 60 bets and only 10K plays... I never risked more than 3% of my bankroll on any game.. Some of u idiots don't realize that
    What is your bankroll?
    You can t count your living expense as your business bankroll, especially if you are trying to start up a new business. You have to be able to sustain your living for at least 6 month without expecting a pay from new business. That is minimum.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 3:48 AM ET #4256

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:


     Even though he is in a MILD slump, I believe College Gambler is one of the few people in the world, that can make this happen.  Billy Walters...not so much.  

    And why is that?  There are thousands of CG's who say. "NC should've won last time, so they will this time". Pros would say "NC played out of their minds last time and still lost, all things = there's value on Duke" stuckey and bator are the only hoops cappers I've seen here that offered reasons to believe they could win long term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:


     Even though he is in a MILD slump, I believe College Gambler is one of the few people in the world, that can make this happen.  Billy Walters...not so much.  

    And why is that?  There are thousands of CG's who say. "NC should've won last time, so they will this time". Pros would say "NC played out of their minds last time and still lost, all things = there's value on Duke" stuckey and bator are the only hoops cappers I've seen here that offered reasons to believe they could win long term.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 3:58 AM ET #4257

     College Gambler you consistently are on the right side, like the Tarheels.  Sometimes the players don't show up to play, and that is not your fault, as you still had it handicapped correctly.  
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     College Gambler you consistently are on the right side, like the Tarheels.  Sometimes the players don't show up to play, and that is not your fault, as you still had it handicapped correctly.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 4:01 AM ET #4258

    College Gambler, any advice on how to beat Roulette?    
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    College Gambler, any advice on how to beat Roulette?    
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 4:10 AM ET #4259

    Quote Originally Posted by tsw:


    And why is that?  There are thousands of CG's who say. "NC should've won last time, so they will this time". Pros would say "NC played out of their minds last time and still lost, all things = there's value on Duke" stuckey and bator are the only hoops cappers I've seen here that offered reasons to believe they could win long term.

    We don't need to criticize, or give advice to College Gambler, because he has always been a winner.  He rarely missed a tackle, and he rarely loses money long-term.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsw:


    And why is that?  There are thousands of CG's who say. "NC should've won last time, so they will this time". Pros would say "NC played out of their minds last time and still lost, all things = there's value on Duke" stuckey and bator are the only hoops cappers I've seen here that offered reasons to believe they could win long term.

    We don't need to criticize, or give advice to College Gambler, because he has always been a winner.  He rarely missed a tackle, and he rarely loses money long-term.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 4:14 AM ET #4260

     The rumors of College Gambler, going on a Ben Sanderson drinking binge, are greatly exaggerated.
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     The rumors of College Gambler, going on a Ben Sanderson drinking binge, are greatly exaggerated.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 4:55 AM ET #4261

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

     College Gambler you consistently are on the right side, like the Tarheels.  Sometimes the players don't show up to play, and that is not your fault, as you still had it handicapped correctly.  

    UNC was the right side? .. Really? Duke's transition D was on-point all game as that is what killed them in the last matchup. Winslow in foul trouble and Jones going down with the injury gave UNC multiple opportunities to make a run... and they didnt. 

    Yea, they turned the ball over a lot, so u could say "the players just didnt show up"... but this is COLLEGE bball you're betting on and the kids at UNC have been turnover prone all year.

    I was on UNC too, and it never really felt like they were in control of that game other than than a few runs. Duke is a far bettter team and they played a better game tonight (last night i guess). 

    ps: dont think CG needs you defending him ten times a night
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

     College Gambler you consistently are on the right side, like the Tarheels.  Sometimes the players don't show up to play, and that is not your fault, as you still had it handicapped correctly.  

    UNC was the right side? .. Really? Duke's transition D was on-point all game as that is what killed them in the last matchup. Winslow in foul trouble and Jones going down with the injury gave UNC multiple opportunities to make a run... and they didnt. 

    Yea, they turned the ball over a lot, so u could say "the players just didnt show up"... but this is COLLEGE bball you're betting on and the kids at UNC have been turnover prone all year.

    I was on UNC too, and it never really felt like they were in control of that game other than than a few runs. Duke is a far bettter team and they played a better game tonight (last night i guess). 

    ps: dont think CG needs you defending him ten times a night
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 7:04 AM ET #4262

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr-Degenerate:


    UNC was the right side? .. Really? Duke's transition D was on-point all game as that is what killed them in the last matchup. Winslow in foul trouble and Jones going down with the injury gave UNC multiple opportunities to make a run... and they didnt. 

    Yea, they turned the ball over a lot, so u could say "the players just didnt show up"... but this is COLLEGE bball you're betting on and the kids at UNC have been turnover prone all year.

    I was on UNC too, and it never really felt like they were in control of that game other than than a few runs. Duke is a far bettter team and they played a better game tonight (last night i guess). 

    ps: dont think CG needs you defending him ten times a night

     College Gambler hates criticism, and needs his ego stroked on a daily basis.  Plus, he rarely missed a tackle, and if anything goes wrong, it is the fault of someone else.  Be nice to the man, so he can get this runaway freight train back on the rails. 

    So, even though I watched NONE of the game, I blame UNC not playing well for his loss, because CG is too sharp to make a bad selection. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr-Degenerate:


    UNC was the right side? .. Really? Duke's transition D was on-point all game as that is what killed them in the last matchup. Winslow in foul trouble and Jones going down with the injury gave UNC multiple opportunities to make a run... and they didnt. 

    Yea, they turned the ball over a lot, so u could say "the players just didnt show up"... but this is COLLEGE bball you're betting on and the kids at UNC have been turnover prone all year.

    I was on UNC too, and it never really felt like they were in control of that game other than than a few runs. Duke is a far bettter team and they played a better game tonight (last night i guess). 

    ps: dont think CG needs you defending him ten times a night

     College Gambler hates criticism, and needs his ego stroked on a daily basis.  Plus, he rarely missed a tackle, and if anything goes wrong, it is the fault of someone else.  Be nice to the man, so he can get this runaway freight train back on the rails. 

    So, even though I watched NONE of the game, I blame UNC not playing well for his loss, because CG is too sharp to make a bad selection. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 7:32 AM ET #4263

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr-Degenerate:

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

     College Gambler you consistently are on the right side, like the Tarheels.  Sometimes the players don't show up to play, and that is not your fault, as you still had it handicapped correctly.  
    UNC was the right side? .. Really? Duke's transition D was on-point all game as that is what killed them in the last matchup. Winslow in foul trouble and Jones going down with the injury gave UNC multiple opportunities to make a run... and they didnt. Yea, they turned the ball over a lot, so u could say "the players just didnt show up"... but this is COLLEGE bball you're betting on and the kids at UNC have been turnover prone all year.I was on UNC too, and it never really felt like they were in control of that game other than than a few runs. Duke is a far bettter team and they played a better game tonight (last night i guess). ps: dont think CG needs you defending him ten times a night


    I'm fairly certain wizardofroz is being sarcastic, Dr. Degenerate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr-Degenerate:

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

     College Gambler you consistently are on the right side, like the Tarheels.  Sometimes the players don't show up to play, and that is not your fault, as you still had it handicapped correctly.  
    UNC was the right side? .. Really? Duke's transition D was on-point all game as that is what killed them in the last matchup. Winslow in foul trouble and Jones going down with the injury gave UNC multiple opportunities to make a run... and they didnt. Yea, they turned the ball over a lot, so u could say "the players just didnt show up"... but this is COLLEGE bball you're betting on and the kids at UNC have been turnover prone all year.I was on UNC too, and it never really felt like they were in control of that game other than than a few runs. Duke is a far bettter team and they played a better game tonight (last night i guess). ps: dont think CG needs you defending him ten times a night


    I'm fairly certain wizardofroz is being sarcastic, Dr. Degenerate.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 8:31 AM ET #4264

    Hey Wizardofdick, take knee. We have all realized by now how pithy you are.
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    Hey Wizardofdick, take knee. We have all realized by now how pithy you are.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 8:47 AM ET #4265

    Goldengoose likes to post an occasional song lyric.This one seems to fit.

    Once upon a time you dressed so fine
    Threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
    People call say 'beware doll, you're bound to fall'
    You thought they were all kidding you
    You used to laugh about
    Everybody that was hanging out
    Now you don't talk so loud
    Now you don't seem so proud
    About having to be scrounging your next meal

    How does it feel, how does it feel?
    To be on your own
    Like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone

    CG.

    What type of gun did your relatives use on you to make you bet? 

    I would NEVER root for someone to fail at doing something like you are doing, but I gotta say there is much joy in seeing you meltdown and lose.

    No offense, but you are a complete, narcissistic a**hole. Is anything  ever your fault? Have you eve capped a game wrong or are you just too legendary for that?

    Still love the story. Still even like the vids. But karma is a Mother F-er, and you are just a di*k. 

    Yeah yeah, I know. It's not your fault that you're a raging alcoholic, with severe anger issues, blaming the world for your bad days. Let's just save you the trouble today, and put the blame on me, Scal, Van, AD, or any of the other guys that tried to help. Because everyone knows you're smarter than all of us in here.

    Regale us again on how wonderful you are. How you would go see your grandfather at the nursing home. How you love your family. 

    Please?

    Stay "humble" CG. Seems we might be using a different dictionary than each other. 

    Reply
    Goldengoose likes to post an occasional song lyric.This one seems to fit.

    Once upon a time you dressed so fine
    Threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
    People call say 'beware doll, you're bound to fall'
    You thought they were all kidding you
    You used to laugh about
    Everybody that was hanging out
    Now you don't talk so loud
    Now you don't seem so proud
    About having to be scrounging your next meal

    How does it feel, how does it feel?
    To be on your own
    Like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone

    CG.

    What type of gun did your relatives use on you to make you bet? 

    I would NEVER root for someone to fail at doing something like you are doing, but I gotta say there is much joy in seeing you meltdown and lose.

    No offense, but you are a complete, narcissistic a**hole. Is anything  ever your fault? Have you eve capped a game wrong or are you just too legendary for that?

    Still love the story. Still even like the vids. But karma is a Mother F-er, and you are just a di*k. 

    Yeah yeah, I know. It's not your fault that you're a raging alcoholic, with severe anger issues, blaming the world for your bad days. Let's just save you the trouble today, and put the blame on me, Scal, Van, AD, or any of the other guys that tried to help. Because everyone knows you're smarter than all of us in here.

    Regale us again on how wonderful you are. How you would go see your grandfather at the nursing home. How you love your family. 

    Please?

    Stay "humble" CG. Seems we might be using a different dictionary than each other. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanski3461:

    Goldengoose likes to post an occasional song lyric.This one seems to fit.

    Once upon a time you dressed so fine
    Threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
    People call say 'beware doll, you're bound to fall'
    You thought they were all kidding you
    You used to laugh about
    Everybody that was hanging out
    Now you don't talk so loud
    Now you don't seem so proud
    About having to be scrounging your next meal

    How does it feel, how does it feel?
    To be on your own
    Like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone

    CG.






    Yes, one of my favorite of all times.

    And here's my favorite version of the song...

    ANTAR BLUE... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1s47L8DrJ0&NR=1
    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Shanski3461:

    Goldengoose likes to post an occasional song lyric.This one seems to fit.

    Once upon a time you dressed so fine
    Threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
    People call say 'beware doll, you're bound to fall'
    You thought they were all kidding you
    You used to laugh about
    Everybody that was hanging out
    Now you don't talk so loud
    Now you don't seem so proud
    About having to be scrounging your next meal

    How does it feel, how does it feel?
    To be on your own
    Like a complete unknown, like a rolling stone

    CG.






    Yes, one of my favorite of all times.

    And here's my favorite version of the song...

    ANTAR BLUE... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1s47L8DrJ0&NR=1
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 9:44 AM ET #4267

    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

    College Gambler, any advice on how to beat Roulette?


    Always bet on the last color that hit. Roulette streaks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

    College Gambler, any advice on how to beat Roulette?


    Always bet on the last color that hit. Roulette streaks!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 9:56 AM ET #4268

    Why's everybody so surprised? Wins/Loss % simply normalizing closer to 50% is all. It's a normal statistical phenomenon for long term betting. Now this is where a good capper will keep in mid to high 50 percentile and people with VIG OPTIONS would be shopping for not the best line but also the best VIG (something that vegas simply doesn't offer). This was in part vandals point as to why it's so hard to make it in Vegas!
    Reply
    Why's everybody so surprised? Wins/Loss % simply normalizing closer to 50% is all. It's a normal statistical phenomenon for long term betting. Now this is where a good capper will keep in mid to high 50 percentile and people with VIG OPTIONS would be shopping for not the best line but also the best VIG (something that vegas simply doesn't offer). This was in part vandals point as to why it's so hard to make it in Vegas!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 10:16 AM ET #4269

    I shouldn't blame my fam's visit it's just ironic I said To myself "things are going so great but oh boy here comes my visitors" and I go 0-5. I could barely lose two in a row my first 3.5 weeks but now can't hit a game with them. Maybe a coincidence but likely some jinx I think from there visit. I'll bounce back, not concerned. Now no1 gives me a shot too which will make this that much sweeter when I'm rolling again. Will update record now
    Reply
    I shouldn't blame my fam's visit it's just ironic I said To myself "things are going so great but oh boy here comes my visitors" and I go 0-5. I could barely lose two in a row my first 3.5 weeks but now can't hit a game with them. Maybe a coincidence but likely some jinx I think from there visit. I'll bounce back, not concerned. Now no1 gives me a shot too which will make this that much sweeter when I'm rolling again. Will update record now
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 10:25 AM ET #4270

    Kind of a self imposed prophecy, cant see why u dont get up early spend a couple hours doing your work, place your wagers and then u have the remainder of the day for your family, thats exactly what i do.. no need for u to be tied to covers all day.. prioritize your time, simple as that.. 

    dont be too hard on yourself, your in a new place, everything is set up, your up 2.5K or so, catch your head and move forward but i still encourage u to work with a plan..

    Falcon
    Reply
    Kind of a self imposed prophecy, cant see why u dont get up early spend a couple hours doing your work, place your wagers and then u have the remainder of the day for your family, thats exactly what i do.. no need for u to be tied to covers all day.. prioritize your time, simple as that.. 

    dont be too hard on yourself, your in a new place, everything is set up, your up 2.5K or so, catch your head and move forward but i still encourage u to work with a plan..

    Falcon
     
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    0-2 -$2200 Saturday

    K plays now 5-5 aftrer a 3-0 and 5-2 start... (3-5 in college) (2-0 in nba)

    updated pro career figures

    pro career college hoops 22-21-1 -$1800

    Pro career NBA 11-4 +$4350

    Pro career overall 33-25-1 +$2550

     

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    0-2 -$2200 Saturday

    K plays now 5-5 aftrer a 3-0 and 5-2 start... (3-5 in college) (2-0 in nba)

    updated pro career figures

    pro career college hoops 22-21-1 -$1800

    Pro career NBA 11-4 +$4350

    Pro career overall 33-25-1 +$2550

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:


    This might be true. But why should it be validated? I mean, this is CG's journey and he is cool enough to show us. Regardless of the outcome. The key point being….CG didn't start this thread asking for advice. I understand how him "ignoring people's advice" seems dumb. BUT that's not the point of this. 

    Scal, I actually like you as a capper and a poster…you are insightful and make great NFL write-ups (which I follow). BUT this is HIS journey and adventure. He's just posting his plays doing his thing and explaining his rationale behind his plays That's it. Not to mention he is still doing pretty well in the scope of it. 

    But people like me, you, and others want to analyze it…and overanalyze it. Yes, our input is important…..TO US. But if he has a way of doing things then so be it. Sit back and enjoy the ride. 

    If we want to be so critical and "could do it better" then maybe we should pack up and go to Vegas like him and give it a shot.

    But you have made it known you prefer your current job and current state of life. Which is awesome. So just let him do his thing, chime in when you think it's necessary, and if he feels like he needs to heed your advice (or mine or anyone else's), let him follow at his discretion. 

    This whole thread is a documentation of one's journey. It's not your money, my money, or anyone else's money that he is making or losing…

    What am I getting at? I'm getting at let's be supportive of him no matter how it goes…it's obviously a situation where support is pertinent as opposed to critiques and criticism in a negative light. 

    Think about it. It's a cool scenario for all of us. Why would we want him to fail? He's a gambler just like all the rest here…let him do his thing and document it and rationalize it. Even if there is advice that WE find beneficial…he may not.


    Nonetheless, BOL CG and keep up the good work buddy. Not every day will be a winner or perfect. Not even close to perfect. It's a grind, a marathon, and a struggle.

     But you got this as long as you keep your head on straight and do your thing and can overcome obstacles like your family coming to visit. But don't take it out on them…I'm sure your family can't relate to what you are doing.

    Shake it off and let's move on to the next day! 

     

    AD,

    If you were his lawyer, you'd make a good one.

    On its surface, you are correct.

    But it's a bit more complicated than you make it out to be.

    When you post on covers, you are entering into a social contract of sorts.

    People will congratulate, comment and criticize. This should be expected and is warranted. It is inherent the general communication of a posting. I understand this when I post. That is why I post one or on very rare occasions, two games. I simply cannot justify three or four picks with a full write-up given my style. Hence, I will be told about it and I know it. And if those picks lose? Shi* will hit the fan...

    Now CG has been getting innumerable congratulatory messages in his thread.

    Has anyone, anyone at all, said, "Leave CG alone! Congrats or criticism, this is HIS journey!"?

    Of course not. Why? He takes congratulatory messages and positivity to enhance his mental state for this journey. People know this. They want to keep reading and extend his stay in Vegas for their own good pleasure. The thread is interesting and brings a diverse group of posters together.

    So in essence, the attention and 'capper's love' he receives from Covers posters benefits him socially (far more than he thinks when his only substantive relationship is with MILF's who come and go like a revolving door). I'd go as far as saying his 'digital companionship' with some male Covers posters is more vital to him than his relationship with MILF's (and that has nothing to do with homosexuality).

    So when he created a thread about this, he entered into a social contract with Covers members.

    Those members should be able to do as they always do: congratulate, comment and criticize.

    It's akin to what's occurring with Walmart today.

    Walmart is a corporate leviathan. But when you look at the wages of its employees, extraordinary numbers are on public assistance.

    Why? Walmart has grown so big and undercut their competition by so much, they can grossly undercharge for first necessities, and virtually anything else they sell. That allows them to make up for the difference by lowering wages.

    This is not to discredit them. That is how capitalism works at its core.

    But there comes a tipping point. Let's say Walmart became so profitable that it could pay 95% of their workers $7.25....in 2075.

    Well all those workers have 'real' expenses like everyone else and ALL of them would be on public assistance.

    So in the pursuit of profit, Walmart (and every other company) does the one thing that is most effective, it depresses labor costs.

    This effectively externalizes their labor costs and then WE ALL pay for THEIR employees through taxes.

    And that is when WE say something (and if you read about this, we as a society are currently doing this). That is also why their are laws against monopolies.

    So back to CG.

    He profits from us. We spend our time complimenting him. The attention and congratulatory messages spur him on in his pursuit and buffer his mental state.

    I can assure you, when CG sees his thread and sees some 125,000 views, a shot of dopamine is released in his brain.

    Now like Walmart, when we see BLATANT mistakes with his capping, betting and pursuit as a whole (i.e. melting down when your family is there because your routine is disrupted, chase bets, money mismanagement (Vanzack has commented on this extensively), issues with your write-up (I've had to point this out to him), anger management etc. etc. etc.), we, just as those who congratulate him, are allowed to say something in the public domain within the confines of our social contract.

    Has he paid attention to ANY of it?

    No. He's heeded almost nothing. In fact, he's created videos to tell us not to tell him 'how to do his fu**ing job'. 

    That's fine. But that doesn't mean anyone is going to stop criticizing him when it is reasonable nor does it mean they should.

    He can heed the advice or continue to discard it like he's doing but no one is in the wrong for congratulating or criticizing him.  

    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:


    This might be true. But why should it be validated? I mean, this is CG's journey and he is cool enough to show us. Regardless of the outcome. The key point being….CG didn't start this thread asking for advice. I understand how him "ignoring people's advice" seems dumb. BUT that's not the point of this. 

    Scal, I actually like you as a capper and a poster…you are insightful and make great NFL write-ups (which I follow). BUT this is HIS journey and adventure. He's just posting his plays doing his thing and explaining his rationale behind his plays That's it. Not to mention he is still doing pretty well in the scope of it. 

    But people like me, you, and others want to analyze it…and overanalyze it. Yes, our input is important…..TO US. But if he has a way of doing things then so be it. Sit back and enjoy the ride. 

    If we want to be so critical and "could do it better" then maybe we should pack up and go to Vegas like him and give it a shot.

    But you have made it known you prefer your current job and current state of life. Which is awesome. So just let him do his thing, chime in when you think it's necessary, and if he feels like he needs to heed your advice (or mine or anyone else's), let him follow at his discretion. 

    This whole thread is a documentation of one's journey. It's not your money, my money, or anyone else's money that he is making or losing…

    What am I getting at? I'm getting at let's be supportive of him no matter how it goes…it's obviously a situation where support is pertinent as opposed to critiques and criticism in a negative light. 

    Think about it. It's a cool scenario for all of us. Why would we want him to fail? He's a gambler just like all the rest here…let him do his thing and document it and rationalize it. Even if there is advice that WE find beneficial…he may not.


    Nonetheless, BOL CG and keep up the good work buddy. Not every day will be a winner or perfect. Not even close to perfect. It's a grind, a marathon, and a struggle.

     But you got this as long as you keep your head on straight and do your thing and can overcome obstacles like your family coming to visit. But don't take it out on them…I'm sure your family can't relate to what you are doing.

    Shake it off and let's move on to the next day! 

     

    AD,

    If you were his lawyer, you'd make a good one.

    On its surface, you are correct.

    But it's a bit more complicated than you make it out to be.

    When you post on covers, you are entering into a social contract of sorts.

    People will congratulate, comment and criticize. This should be expected and is warranted. It is inherent the general communication of a posting. I understand this when I post. That is why I post one or on very rare occasions, two games. I simply cannot justify three or four picks with a full write-up given my style. Hence, I will be told about it and I know it. And if those picks lose? Shi* will hit the fan...

    Now CG has been getting innumerable congratulatory messages in his thread.

    Has anyone, anyone at all, said, "Leave CG alone! Congrats or criticism, this is HIS journey!"?

    Of course not. Why? He takes congratulatory messages and positivity to enhance his mental state for this journey. People know this. They want to keep reading and extend his stay in Vegas for their own good pleasure. The thread is interesting and brings a diverse group of posters together.

    So in essence, the attention and 'capper's love' he receives from Covers posters benefits him socially (far more than he thinks when his only substantive relationship is with MILF's who come and go like a revolving door). I'd go as far as saying his 'digital companionship' with some male Covers posters is more vital to him than his relationship with MILF's (and that has nothing to do with homosexuality).

    So when he created a thread about this, he entered into a social contract with Covers members.

    Those members should be able to do as they always do: congratulate, comment and criticize.

    It's akin to what's occurring with Walmart today.

    Walmart is a corporate leviathan. But when you look at the wages of its employees, extraordinary numbers are on public assistance.

    Why? Walmart has grown so big and undercut their competition by so much, they can grossly undercharge for first necessities, and virtually anything else they sell. That allows them to make up for the difference by lowering wages.

    This is not to discredit them. That is how capitalism works at its core.

    But there comes a tipping point. Let's say Walmart became so profitable that it could pay 95% of their workers $7.25....in 2075.

    Well all those workers have 'real' expenses like everyone else and ALL of them would be on public assistance.

    So in the pursuit of profit, Walmart (and every other company) does the one thing that is most effective, it depresses labor costs.

    This effectively externalizes their labor costs and then WE ALL pay for THEIR employees through taxes.

    And that is when WE say something (and if you read about this, we as a society are currently doing this). That is also why their are laws against monopolies.

    So back to CG.

    He profits from us. We spend our time complimenting him. The attention and congratulatory messages spur him on in his pursuit and buffer his mental state.

    I can assure you, when CG sees his thread and sees some 125,000 views, a shot of dopamine is released in his brain.

    Now like Walmart, when we see BLATANT mistakes with his capping, betting and pursuit as a whole (i.e. melting down when your family is there because your routine is disrupted, chase bets, money mismanagement (Vanzack has commented on this extensively), issues with your write-up (I've had to point this out to him), anger management etc. etc. etc.), we, just as those who congratulate him, are allowed to say something in the public domain within the confines of our social contract.

    Has he paid attention to ANY of it?

    No. He's heeded almost nothing. In fact, he's created videos to tell us not to tell him 'how to do his fu**ing job'. 

    That's fine. But that doesn't mean anyone is going to stop criticizing him when it is reasonable nor does it mean they should.

    He can heed the advice or continue to discard it like he's doing but no one is in the wrong for congratulating or criticizing him.  

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 10:36 AM ET #4273

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    I shouldn't blame my fam's visit it's just ironic I said To myself "things are going so great but oh boy here comes my visitors" and I go 0-5. I could barely lose two in a row my first 3.5 weeks but now can't hit a game with them. Maybe a coincidence but likely some jinx I think from there visit. I'll bounce back, not concerned. Now no1 gives me a shot too which will make this that much sweeter when I'm rolling again. Will update record now

    No one gives you a shot?

    More self-victimization that you are using a a motivating force.

    But your statement is simply untrue.

    NO ONE is giving you a shot?

    There are DOZENS of posters here who are swooning over what you are doing and admire you.

    Do they still give you a shot?

    Of course.

    Do I, a person who you think is at the top of your list of those who want you to fail, give you a shot?

    Of course.

    I don't want to see you crash and burn. Put it on the record.

    I will criticize and even lampoon when necessary but I'm not at home in from of my PC laughing gleefully to myself and rubbing my hands together excitedly like I'm Gargamel from the Smurfs when your play loses.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by collegegambler:

    I shouldn't blame my fam's visit it's just ironic I said To myself "things are going so great but oh boy here comes my visitors" and I go 0-5. I could barely lose two in a row my first 3.5 weeks but now can't hit a game with them. Maybe a coincidence but likely some jinx I think from there visit. I'll bounce back, not concerned. Now no1 gives me a shot too which will make this that much sweeter when I'm rolling again. Will update record now

    No one gives you a shot?

    More self-victimization that you are using a a motivating force.

    But your statement is simply untrue.

    NO ONE is giving you a shot?

    There are DOZENS of posters here who are swooning over what you are doing and admire you.

    Do they still give you a shot?

    Of course.

    Do I, a person who you think is at the top of your list of those who want you to fail, give you a shot?

    Of course.

    I don't want to see you crash and burn. Put it on the record.

    I will criticize and even lampoon when necessary but I'm not at home in from of my PC laughing gleefully to myself and rubbing my hands together excitedly like I'm Gargamel from the Smurfs when your play loses.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 10:41 AM ET #4274

    thanks scal. I  see where ur coming from now and respect that

    So u had my day after milf slay record which is 5-5

    well my record with family here is 0-5    do u guys think that is ironic that I do so well for 3.5 weeks then shitt the bed with them here?  or was I just due for a bad run?

    I am capping now and u wont believe what game I am looking to take

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    thanks scal. I  see where ur coming from now and respect that

    So u had my day after milf slay record which is 5-5

    well my record with family here is 0-5    do u guys think that is ironic that I do so well for 3.5 weeks then shitt the bed with them here?  or was I just due for a bad run?

    I am capping now and u wont believe what game I am looking to take

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 8, 2015 - 10:42 AM ET #4275

    SCAL TRANSLATION:

    Covers is a Cesspool and to expect CG to open himself up to critisism and navigate through it will be a complete mess in the end.
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    SCAL TRANSLATION:

    Covers is a Cesspool and to expect CG to open himself up to critisism and navigate through it will be a complete mess in the end.
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