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    kenyonlv
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 1:50 AM ET #26

    Day 9  2-0 (32-24) overall, 1-0 (10-5) hot picks.  Two games so far ... I have a feeling these lines may move up, I bet the OKC game at 193.5, but will wait and see if the SA line moves up some ...
     
    Minnesota/Oklahoma City Under 193.5 (14.3)
    Memphis/San Antonio Under 182 (12.5)
    Sacramento/Utah Over 207.5 (6)
    Philadelphia/Boston Under 187 (2.9)
    New Orleans/Portland Over 187.5 (0.9)
    Golden State/Cleveland Over 215 (0.7)
    Miami/Phoenix Under 200 (0.6)
    Atlanta/Toronto (215)
    Dallas/LA Lakers (204.7)
    Milwaukee/Detroit (185.6)
    Charlotte/Indiana (167.5)
     
    Yes, Gas, today was your lucky day ... WTG
    The YON went 5-0 today with FB and BB. 
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    Day 9  2-0 (32-24) overall, 1-0 (10-5) hot picks.  Two games so far ... I have a feeling these lines may move up, I bet the OKC game at 193.5, but will wait and see if the SA line moves up some ...
     
    Minnesota/Oklahoma City Under 193.5 (14.3)
    Memphis/San Antonio Under 182 (12.5)
    Sacramento/Utah Over 207.5 (6)
    Philadelphia/Boston Under 187 (2.9)
    New Orleans/Portland Over 187.5 (0.9)
    Golden State/Cleveland Over 215 (0.7)
    Miami/Phoenix Under 200 (0.6)
    Atlanta/Toronto (215)
    Dallas/LA Lakers (204.7)
    Milwaukee/Detroit (185.6)
    Charlotte/Indiana (167.5)
     
    Yes, Gas, today was your lucky day ... WTG
    The YON went 5-0 today with FB and BB. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 6:49 AM ET #27




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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 8:40 AM ET #28

    k,
    great 5-0 record in nba and nfl yesterday
    keep it up.........champ
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    k,
    great 5-0 record in nba and nfl yesterday
    keep it up.........champ
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 2:27 PM ET #29

    Just got the SA UNDER at 185! Lets hit both tonight
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    Just got the SA UNDER at 185! Lets hit both tonight
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 2:37 PM ET #30

    Found this line movement chart and it looks impressive for your San Antonio play



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    Found this line movement chart and it looks impressive for your San Antonio play



     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 2:39 PM ET #31

    Well that didn't work out so well... Will try again in a minute

    o182 -110 /u182 EVEN Opener 11/27/2008 9:57PM
    o182 -108 / u182 -102 11/28/2008 1:26AM
    o182 -122 / u182 +112 11/28/2008 4:35AM
    o183 -110 / u183 EVEN 11/28/2008 8:02AM
    o183 -105 / u183 -105 11/28/2008 8:05AM
    o183 -102 / u183 -108 11/28/2008 8:11AM
    o183 EVEN / u183 -110 11/28/2008 9:13AM
    o183 -105 / u183 -105 11/28/2008 10:10AM
    o184 -113 / u184 +103 11/28/2008 10:46AM
    o184 -111 / u184 +101 11/28/2008 10:46AM
    o184 -109 / u184 -101 11/28/2008 10:50AM
    o184.5 -105 / u184.5 -105 11/28/2008 1:42PM
    o184.5 -109 / u184.5 -101 11/28/2008 2:25PM
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    Well that didn't work out so well... Will try again in a minute

    o182 -110 /u182 EVEN Opener 11/27/2008 9:57PM
    o182 -108 / u182 -102 11/28/2008 1:26AM
    o182 -122 / u182 +112 11/28/2008 4:35AM
    o183 -110 / u183 EVEN 11/28/2008 8:02AM
    o183 -105 / u183 -105 11/28/2008 8:05AM
    o183 -102 / u183 -108 11/28/2008 8:11AM
    o183 EVEN / u183 -110 11/28/2008 9:13AM
    o183 -105 / u183 -105 11/28/2008 10:10AM
    o184 -113 / u184 +103 11/28/2008 10:46AM
    o184 -111 / u184 +101 11/28/2008 10:46AM
    o184 -109 / u184 -101 11/28/2008 10:50AM
    o184.5 -105 / u184.5 -105 11/28/2008 1:42PM
    o184.5 -109 / u184.5 -101 11/28/2008 2:25PM
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 4:54 PM ET #32

    Dang, I went ahead and bought in at 184, thought it had peaked.  Oh well.  You guys are aware that Char/Ind Under is at 21.9 and Atl/Tor Over is at 13.5 ...
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    Dang, I went ahead and bought in at 184, thought it had peaked.  Oh well.  You guys are aware that Char/Ind Under is at 21.9 and Atl/Tor Over is at 13.5 ...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 6:39 PM ET #33

    I'm gonna play...
     
    Atl/Tor, Char/Ind, Min/OKC, Mem/SA
     
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    I'm gonna play...
     
    Atl/Tor, Char/Ind, Min/OKC, Mem/SA
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 10:02 PM ET #34

    ...alt/tor....
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    ...alt/tor....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 10:16 PM ET #35

    ken , the dallas/laker game what way should i go over or under? 
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    ken , the dallas/laker game what way should i go over or under? 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 11:06 PM ET #36

    ....ouch...0-4 tonight ken on the top plays
     
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    ....ouch...0-4 tonight ken on the top plays
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 11:13 PM ET #37

    All I can say is YIKES!
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    All I can say is YIKES!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 11:22 PM ET #38

    Tomorrows another day!

    Thanks for taking the time to post Kenyonlv.

     

     

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    Tomorrows another day!

    Thanks for taking the time to post Kenyonlv.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 1:03 AM ET #39

    Both games started out great but was all down hill after that. I seen the scores early and I felt good about them. Oh well I expect to have a few of these days. Here is to better luck tomorrow 
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    Both games started out great but was all down hill after that. I seen the scores early and I felt good about them. Oh well I expect to have a few of these days. Here is to better luck tomorrow 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 1:35 AM ET #40

    I think that if your number is high, maybe the books know something that we don't know. There is obviously a reason why the line seems way too low and then it sails over. In the NBA it seems like whatever you think is going to happen usually doesn't happen. I wonder if you could look at your record of games that are over a certain number and then go the opposite way on them. I'm thinking that in these cases where the number is way off, the books are setting a trap. Just an idea to maybe track as you go. Thanks for the hard work you put in and good luck for the rest of the season.
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    I think that if your number is high, maybe the books know something that we don't know. There is obviously a reason why the line seems way too low and then it sails over. In the NBA it seems like whatever you think is going to happen usually doesn't happen. I wonder if you could look at your record of games that are over a certain number and then go the opposite way on them. I'm thinking that in these cases where the number is way off, the books are setting a trap. Just an idea to maybe track as you go. Thanks for the hard work you put in and good luck for the rest of the season.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 2:08 AM ET #41

    Thanks for the support guys ... actually 3 out of 4 started good, the Atl/Tor was doomed from the start.  That SA game went south and I thought that was good most of the way.  LOL

    Anyway, I didn't want to change anything while it was winning, but I am tweaking it now.  One change I did was to ignore OT's in the data scores.  That woulda changed tonight and made Atl/Tor a no play and woulda added Sac/Uta as a win.  You have to stay on top of this system ... I'm recalculating slopes and intercepts and will have some winning picks late tonight. 

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    Thanks for the support guys ... actually 3 out of 4 started good, the Atl/Tor was doomed from the start.  That SA game went south and I thought that was good most of the way.  LOL

    Anyway, I didn't want to change anything while it was winning, but I am tweaking it now.  One change I did was to ignore OT's in the data scores.  That woulda changed tonight and made Atl/Tor a no play and woulda added Sac/Uta as a win.  You have to stay on top of this system ... I'm recalculating slopes and intercepts and will have some winning picks late tonight. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 2:51 AM ET #42

    The OT stats are misleading. You figure whatever points are score just pat the PPG stats. I believe you are making the right decision for the tweak. Keep it up I believe you have a system here that is profitable and that is what matters.
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    The OT stats are misleading. You figure whatever points are score just pat the PPG stats. I believe you are making the right decision for the tweak. Keep it up I believe you have a system here that is profitable and that is what matters.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 6:21 AM ET #43

    Day 10  3-8 (35-32) overall  0-4 (10-9) hot picks.  I really ruined my hot picks record tonight, but I took a gamble and lost.  I keep all the stats up to the date, I don't post picks till the games are over, but there are some aspects that remain constant and when to change them is a guess.  I waited to long, live and learn.  As you can see in my picks the system has now tightned up.
     
    My overall record is kinda misleading, because like tonight I had 4 games where I had the total nailed to less then 1 point.  It's a tossup at that point, of course I win some of those and lose some.  I just include all the games even if I have 0.1 difference from what I originally post
     
    Atlanta/Washington Under 200 (3.5)
    New Jersey/Utah Over 209.5 (0.8)
    Miami/LA Clippers Over 193.5 (0.7)
    Oklahoma City/Memphis Over 194.5 (0.6)
    Denver/Minnesota Under 200 (0)
    Golden State/New York (229.1)
    Dallas/Sacramento (208.7)
    Indiana/Orlando (202.8)
    Cleveland/Milwaukee (187.3)
    Boston/Charlotte (177.6)
    San Antonio/Houston (171)
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    Day 10  3-8 (35-32) overall  0-4 (10-9) hot picks.  I really ruined my hot picks record tonight, but I took a gamble and lost.  I keep all the stats up to the date, I don't post picks till the games are over, but there are some aspects that remain constant and when to change them is a guess.  I waited to long, live and learn.  As you can see in my picks the system has now tightned up.
     
    My overall record is kinda misleading, because like tonight I had 4 games where I had the total nailed to less then 1 point.  It's a tossup at that point, of course I win some of those and lose some.  I just include all the games even if I have 0.1 difference from what I originally post
     
    Atlanta/Washington Under 200 (3.5)
    New Jersey/Utah Over 209.5 (0.8)
    Miami/LA Clippers Over 193.5 (0.7)
    Oklahoma City/Memphis Over 194.5 (0.6)
    Denver/Minnesota Under 200 (0)
    Golden State/New York (229.1)
    Dallas/Sacramento (208.7)
    Indiana/Orlando (202.8)
    Cleveland/Milwaukee (187.3)
    Boston/Charlotte (177.6)
    San Antonio/Houston (171)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 7:57 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Kquinlan:

    I think that if your number is high, maybe the books know something that we don't know. There is obviously a reason why the line seems way too low and then it sails over. In the NBA it seems like whatever you think is going to happen usually doesn't happen. I wonder if you could look at your record of games that are over a certain number and then go the opposite way on them. I'm thinking that in these cases where the number is way off, the books are setting a trap. Just an idea to maybe track as you go. Thanks for the hard work you put in and good luck for the rest of the season.

    Dude, I really think you have good intentions in your post, but you caught me on a bad night for your "friendly" suggestions.  I have been nothing but courteous on these forums, but now I'm going to rip you a new a$$hole.  You can thank me after a week or two.

    First off tell me what your number is, and if its to high or low maybe the books know something that YOU don't know.  Yes, I agree there is obviously a reason why the line seems way to low then it "sails over", maybe like a Tony Parker coming back unannounced.  Dude, if it is obvious then feel free to come in this forum and post it so we ALL can know.  If the NBA was predictable do you think anybody would risk money on the outcome???  Here's a similiar statement, if you have your head up your ass, I bet its dark.

    Here's a WAY better idea that would probably make us all richer then any NBA Official ... take your record of games that are over a certain number and then go the opposite way.  Dude, thanks for the slap in the face, I go 10-5 and people make money, myself included, and then 0-4, and you say fade me.  OK, maybe you were right ... tell me this "certain number" and we can all be rich.  LOL

    Please tell me more about books setting "traps."  Ok, so the number is way off, hmmmm ... when will you tell us that the number is way off?  Will you please post that, that would be nice to know, and BEFORE the game not after.  Oh, thanks for the tip ... i'll start tracking that as I go.  I'll make a note to myself, "start tracking when the books set a trap."  As far as I know the book sets a number and I can pick above or below taht number at any time ... so I am not trapped.  I can trap them by middling them, the books can only trap themselves, how they heck can they trap the bettor?

    Dude, a person sets the line ... there is nothing that says I can't set a better line.  Here are my lines for Sunday which I don't think anybody has out yet.  I challenge you to put out closer lines.

    Portland/Detroit (188.5)
    Chicago/Philadelphia (186.8)
    Houston/Denver (197.8)
    New Jersey/Phoenix (211.2)
    Toronto/LA Lakers (195.8) 

    If you need more time try these lines for Monday ... you should have plenty of time to figure why these lines are obviously off.

    Minnesota/Charlotte (181.3)
    Orlando/Boston (188.7)
    Miami/Golden State (216.1)

    Kquinlan, don't take my rant personal ... I am not mad at you, you just posted at a bad time.

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    I think that if your number is high, maybe the books know something that we don't know. There is obviously a reason why the line seems way too low and then it sails over. In the NBA it seems like whatever you think is going to happen usually doesn't happen. I wonder if you could look at your record of games that are over a certain number and then go the opposite way on them. I'm thinking that in these cases where the number is way off, the books are setting a trap. Just an idea to maybe track as you go. Thanks for the hard work you put in and good luck for the rest of the season.

    Dude, I really think you have good intentions in your post, but you caught me on a bad night for your "friendly" suggestions.  I have been nothing but courteous on these forums, but now I'm going to rip you a new a$$hole.  You can thank me after a week or two.

    First off tell me what your number is, and if its to high or low maybe the books know something that YOU don't know.  Yes, I agree there is obviously a reason why the line seems way to low then it "sails over", maybe like a Tony Parker coming back unannounced.  Dude, if it is obvious then feel free to come in this forum and post it so we ALL can know.  If the NBA was predictable do you think anybody would risk money on the outcome???  Here's a similiar statement, if you have your head up your ass, I bet its dark.

    Here's a WAY better idea that would probably make us all richer then any NBA Official ... take your record of games that are over a certain number and then go the opposite way.  Dude, thanks for the slap in the face, I go 10-5 and people make money, myself included, and then 0-4, and you say fade me.  OK, maybe you were right ... tell me this "certain number" and we can all be rich.  LOL

    Please tell me more about books setting "traps."  Ok, so the number is way off, hmmmm ... when will you tell us that the number is way off?  Will you please post that, that would be nice to know, and BEFORE the game not after.  Oh, thanks for the tip ... i'll start tracking that as I go.  I'll make a note to myself, "start tracking when the books set a trap."  As far as I know the book sets a number and I can pick above or below taht number at any time ... so I am not trapped.  I can trap them by middling them, the books can only trap themselves, how they heck can they trap the bettor?

    Dude, a person sets the line ... there is nothing that says I can't set a better line.  Here are my lines for Sunday which I don't think anybody has out yet.  I challenge you to put out closer lines.

    Portland/Detroit (188.5)
    Chicago/Philadelphia (186.8)
    Houston/Denver (197.8)
    New Jersey/Phoenix (211.2)
    Toronto/LA Lakers (195.8) 

    If you need more time try these lines for Monday ... you should have plenty of time to figure why these lines are obviously off.

    Minnesota/Charlotte (181.3)
    Orlando/Boston (188.7)
    Miami/Golden State (216.1)

    Kquinlan, don't take my rant personal ... I am not mad at you, you just posted at a bad time.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 10:53 AM ET #45

    Just wondering if your system takes into account previous matchups between the 2 teams?  Like Char/Ind, their last 3 games the totals were 210, 197, 210  all way above the 189.5 total for last nights game.....
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    Just wondering if your system takes into account previous matchups between the 2 teams?  Like Char/Ind, their last 3 games the totals were 210, 197, 210  all way above the 189.5 total for last nights game.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 11:57 AM ET #46

    k, 
    dont listen to fools like that, the record speaks for itself

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    k, 
    dont listen to fools like that, the record speaks for itself

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 2:16 PM ET #47

    K,

    You are the man.
    An 0-4 night happens to anyone.
    No big deal when the night before you went 5-0 if you ask me.
    This is sports gambling, leave those guys alone.
    We all know who you are and we all know the work you put into this so let's enjoy the weekend where we'll go 13-2

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    K,

    You are the man.
    An 0-4 night happens to anyone.
    No big deal when the night before you went 5-0 if you ask me.
    This is sports gambling, leave those guys alone.
    We all know who you are and we all know the work you put into this so let's enjoy the weekend where we'll go 13-2

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 3:10 PM ET #48

    Haha... I wasn't bashing at all. I'm not offended either so don't worry about it. I just remember you saying that when your number is really high, you are a little worried about it. So i was thinking maybe if your number is above 25 or so, it might be a good time to fade as vegas is trying to sway people to bet the same side you were betting. I know it is just another person setting the line, but lets be honest..... these people know a lot more about how the game will play out than we do no matter how accurate you think your capping is.  My thinking was that maybe you might find that strongest games are between a certain number, such as between 9.5 and 20 while anything above 20 could be a no play or a fade. After reading my above post again i realize that it does sound a little condescending, but that was not my intention at all. I have been following your system for a couple weeks now and it looks really promising. Just thought that this could be another angle that you could track.  Anyways, feel free to ignore me, just felt that i should explain myself a little better.
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    Haha... I wasn't bashing at all. I'm not offended either so don't worry about it. I just remember you saying that when your number is really high, you are a little worried about it. So i was thinking maybe if your number is above 25 or so, it might be a good time to fade as vegas is trying to sway people to bet the same side you were betting. I know it is just another person setting the line, but lets be honest..... these people know a lot more about how the game will play out than we do no matter how accurate you think your capping is.  My thinking was that maybe you might find that strongest games are between a certain number, such as between 9.5 and 20 while anything above 20 could be a no play or a fade. After reading my above post again i realize that it does sound a little condescending, but that was not my intention at all. I have been following your system for a couple weeks now and it looks really promising. Just thought that this could be another angle that you could track.  Anyways, feel free to ignore me, just felt that i should explain myself a little better.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2008 - 4:51 PM ET #49

    SRTZEE,  Nope, like for Char it just takes thier 10 home games and 5 road games into account.
     
    r8dr and MLB, thanks for your support.
     
    Kquinlan,  Glad to hear you were not offended, I just needed to blow off some steam.  I'm sorry I dumped on you.  When I said my high numbers worry me, I just didn't want anybody to get to confident with those picks.  My numbers got off because I went 10 days without adjusting the system.  Also, with some teams having just 5 road games (and some with as few as 6 at home) there is going to be high standard deviation with the scores.  I could track this and use it for a confidence rating ie if two teams with a low SD play each other we could be more confident about the total ...
     
    Vegas has a good idea how the game will play out but look at how far off they are sometimes.  They can't predict how teams are going to play on any given night either.  Plus they have the task of putting out a number that will balance the books, and not necessarily as accurate a total.  This may be more true in NFL then NBA.  In general, the higher my number the better the play.  Thanks for your support of the system and explanation of your post.
     
    Boy that SA/Hou under is pretty close to a play tonight, but I don't think I can pull the trigger on that one. LOL Having Parker back seems to have helped them, kinda surprised that line is as low as it is.
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    SRTZEE,  Nope, like for Char it just takes thier 10 home games and 5 road games into account.
     
    r8dr and MLB, thanks for your support.
     
    Kquinlan,  Glad to hear you were not offended, I just needed to blow off some steam.  I'm sorry I dumped on you.  When I said my high numbers worry me, I just didn't want anybody to get to confident with those picks.  My numbers got off because I went 10 days without adjusting the system.  Also, with some teams having just 5 road games (and some with as few as 6 at home) there is going to be high standard deviation with the scores.  I could track this and use it for a confidence rating ie if two teams with a low SD play each other we could be more confident about the total ...
     
    Vegas has a good idea how the game will play out but look at how far off they are sometimes.  They can't predict how teams are going to play on any given night either.  Plus they have the task of putting out a number that will balance the books, and not necessarily as accurate a total.  This may be more true in NFL then NBA.  In general, the higher my number the better the play.  Thanks for your support of the system and explanation of your post.
     
    Boy that SA/Hou under is pretty close to a play tonight, but I don't think I can pull the trigger on that one. LOL Having Parker back seems to have helped them, kinda surprised that line is as low as it is.
     
     
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    So far no plays right?
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