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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 1:57 AM ET #1

    This thread is a continuation of my earlier one Titled "NBA O/U System"
     
    Day 7 went 3-2 (23-18) overall with yesterday being the only below .500 day so far and 1-1 (8-3) on hot games.  Just barely escaped the dreaded losing day with Pho/OKC going under.
     
    I posted earlier that the Boston game may be one to watch, but with the updated stats it fell below the 9.4 rating to 8.6.  I already bet it ... but officially there is only one play so far.
     
    Oklahoma City/Cleveland Over 195.5 (16.4)
    Chicago/San Antonio Under 191 (8.7)
    Golden State/Boston Under 203 (8.6)
    Orlando/Philadelphia Under 190.5 (7.5)
    Indiana/Houston Under 190.5 (5.8)
    Phoenix/Minnesota Over 196 (3.4)
    New York/Detroit Under 208.5 (2.3)
    New Jersey/Sacramento Over 211 (0.4)
    Miami/Portland Over 193 (0.3)
    Charlotte/Toronto (191.4)
    Milwaukee/Atlanta (188.7)
    Memphis/Utah Over (185.6)
    Denver/LA Clippers (184.5)
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    This thread is a continuation of my earlier one Titled "NBA O/U System"
     
    Day 7 went 3-2 (23-18) overall with yesterday being the only below .500 day so far and 1-1 (8-3) on hot games.  Just barely escaped the dreaded losing day with Pho/OKC going under.
     
    I posted earlier that the Boston game may be one to watch, but with the updated stats it fell below the 9.4 rating to 8.6.  I already bet it ... but officially there is only one play so far.
     
    Oklahoma City/Cleveland Over 195.5 (16.4)
    Chicago/San Antonio Under 191 (8.7)
    Golden State/Boston Under 203 (8.6)
    Orlando/Philadelphia Under 190.5 (7.5)
    Indiana/Houston Under 190.5 (5.8)
    Phoenix/Minnesota Over 196 (3.4)
    New York/Detroit Under 208.5 (2.3)
    New Jersey/Sacramento Over 211 (0.4)
    Miami/Portland Over 193 (0.3)
    Charlotte/Toronto (191.4)
    Milwaukee/Atlanta (188.7)
    Memphis/Utah Over (185.6)
    Denver/LA Clippers (184.5)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 5:54 AM ET #2

    thanks for the early post.. i just saw ur system yesterday, that suns/thunder cover was a great one, thought it was dead but thunder couldn't foul
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    thanks for the early post.. i just saw ur system yesterday, that suns/thunder cover was a great one, thought it was dead but thunder couldn't foul
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 7:35 AM ET #3

    yeah , we got want we need a barn burner nice one ken , I know from the past that thanksgiving day is hard day to call because alot of the line really sharp . We just have to be patient stick with it , because are on to something and i think that the NFL this week will come back down to earth. 
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    yeah , we got want we need a barn burner nice one ken , I know from the past that thanksgiving day is hard day to call because alot of the line really sharp . We just have to be patient stick with it , because are on to something and i think that the NFL this week will come back down to earth. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 7:42 AM ET #4

    well let see what happends tonight?:)  think your systems are really good .  I wrote to you the old on , but will say here again thank you again for your system on the nets game.
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    well let see what happends tonight?:)  think your systems are really good .  I wrote to you the old on , but will say here again thank you again for your system on the nets game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 1:25 PM ET #5

    Hey Kenyon, I really like this system, but I was wondering if you still would bet the Cavs over at 200?  Would that make it a play still at 11.9?
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    Hey Kenyon, I really like this system, but I was wondering if you still would bet the Cavs over at 200?  Would that make it a play still at 11.9?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 2:26 PM ET #6

    Crooked, Yep, that was one of the closest covers yet.
     
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    Kev77, Heck ya ... anything above 9.4 is a go. 
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    Crooked, Yep, that was one of the closest covers yet.
     
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    Kev77, Heck ya ... anything above 9.4 is a go. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 9:56 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by kenyonlv:

    Crooked, Yep, that was one of the closest covers yet.
     
    WTG Master
     
    Kev77, Heck ya ... anything above 9.4 is a go. 
    another one of your  top plays worked . :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenyonlv:

    Crooked, Yep, that was one of the closest covers yet.
     
    WTG Master
     
    Kev77, Heck ya ... anything above 9.4 is a go. 
    another one of your  top plays worked . :)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 10:08 PM ET #8

    Yep, But GS/Bos turned into a play and lost.  So Den/LAC under 198 is the decider.
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    Yep, But GS/Bos turned into a play and lost.  So Den/LAC under 198 is the decider.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 10:46 PM ET #9

    ....ouch ...0-2 on games over 9.4
    OKC/Cle...Over 200 (11.9)
    GS/Bos...Under 205 (11.2) 
     
     with Den/LaC Under 198 (13.5) pending...
     
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    ....ouch ...0-2 on games over 9.4
    OKC/Cle...Over 200 (11.9)
    GS/Bos...Under 205 (11.2) 
     
     with Den/LaC Under 198 (13.5) pending...
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2008 - 11:39 PM ET #10

    good work kenyon
    i really think this system will pay off in the long run
     
    everyone give kenyon a
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    good work kenyon
    i really think this system will pay off in the long run
     
    everyone give kenyon a
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 12:13 AM ET #11

    Gas, Sorry you took an L on that one, but it was a W for the system.  If a line is available when I post that means I bet it if it was above 9.4 and I will use that line for the official tally, even if I'm on the short end.  If I don't have a line when I post and the line moves into the 9.4 range I will use the line it was at when I bet.  Like tonight I had GS/Bos under 202 even tho the line moved all the way up to 205.5.  I bet that game before the games were over last night and I think I am going to hold off on doing that again.  Once the line kept moving the other way I knew I was in trouble, but since it closed above the 9.4 rating I will count it.
     
    Thanks Hiss Dog ... like I said in the 1st post, Only time will tell.
     
    Now, we just need some D in that Clipper game.
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    Gas, Sorry you took an L on that one, but it was a W for the system.  If a line is available when I post that means I bet it if it was above 9.4 and I will use that line for the official tally, even if I'm on the short end.  If I don't have a line when I post and the line moves into the 9.4 range I will use the line it was at when I bet.  Like tonight I had GS/Bos under 202 even tho the line moved all the way up to 205.5.  I bet that game before the games were over last night and I think I am going to hold off on doing that again.  Once the line kept moving the other way I knew I was in trouble, but since it closed above the 9.4 rating I will count it.
     
    Thanks Hiss Dog ... like I said in the 1st post, Only time will tell.
     
    Now, we just need some D in that Clipper game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 1:14 AM ET #12

    ...well kenyon...I can only bet with a local book and he opens 1 hour before the first NBA game begins...so if a game has been better than the (9.4) threshold that you have established then I will bet them.
     
      Tonight ........OKC/Cle...over 200 (11.9)...lost
                          GS/Bos....Under 205 (11.2)...lost
                          Den/LAC...Under 198 (13.5)...lost
     
    ...0-3 on ALL GAMES over (9.4)....
     
    ......what now????  Bet all of the games regardless of the "threshold"?   I don't have that kind of bankroll... 
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    ...well kenyon...I can only bet with a local book and he opens 1 hour before the first NBA game begins...so if a game has been better than the (9.4) threshold that you have established then I will bet them.
     
      Tonight ........OKC/Cle...over 200 (11.9)...lost
                          GS/Bos....Under 205 (11.2)...lost
                          Den/LAC...Under 198 (13.5)...lost
     
    ...0-3 on ALL GAMES over (9.4)....
     
    ......what now????  Bet all of the games regardless of the "threshold"?   I don't have that kind of bankroll... 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 1:40 AM ET #13

    gas, your at a big disadvantage if you only bet through a local that opens up an hour before tipoff.... u should try and setup an online account, to get better lines
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    gas, your at a big disadvantage if you only bet through a local that opens up an hour before tipoff.... u should try and setup an online account, to get better lines
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 2:02 AM ET #14

    I see your predicament Gas ... overall I think you are safe (hard to believe after going 0-3 tonight) with betting anything over 9.4.  By all means don't bet all the games ... the hot picks are doing way better then the overall.  BUT ... I don't plan on betting anymore games that "back door" into a 9.4 such as the Boston Game tonight.  I'll give the public/other bettors credit.  The line was moving the wrong way, so betting the under was probably not a wise move, the books were begging for under money.  I only did it because I bet it so early, before any line moves.  So BEWARE of that in the future.  Of course when the line is moving in my favor your screwed because you can't get a bet in early.
     
    Well glad to get that first losing nite done ... I knew it had to come sooner or later.  Seven days of nothing worse then 50-50 was decent, but I want to do better.
     
    Day 8  7-6 (30-24) overall 1-2 (9-5) hot picks.  One game for tomorrow.
     
    Orlando/Washington Under 200 (11.8)
    New Orleans/Denver Over 196.5 (4.3)
     
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    I see your predicament Gas ... overall I think you are safe (hard to believe after going 0-3 tonight) with betting anything over 9.4.  By all means don't bet all the games ... the hot picks are doing way better then the overall.  BUT ... I don't plan on betting anymore games that "back door" into a 9.4 such as the Boston Game tonight.  I'll give the public/other bettors credit.  The line was moving the wrong way, so betting the under was probably not a wise move, the books were begging for under money.  I only did it because I bet it so early, before any line moves.  So BEWARE of that in the future.  Of course when the line is moving in my favor your screwed because you can't get a bet in early.
     
    Well glad to get that first losing nite done ... I knew it had to come sooner or later.  Seven days of nothing worse then 50-50 was decent, but I want to do better.
     
    Day 8  7-6 (30-24) overall 1-2 (9-5) hot picks.  One game for tomorrow.
     
    Orlando/Washington Under 200 (11.8)
    New Orleans/Denver Over 196.5 (4.3)
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 2:18 AM ET #15

    Kenyon Im glad I got the line last night at 195.5 cause it would have been a loss. I had a great day today going 7 for 7. Wish I would have put a parlay in.... Happy Thanksgiving guys and BOL 
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    Kenyon Im glad I got the line last night at 195.5 cause it would have been a loss. I had a great day today going 7 for 7. Wish I would have put a parlay in.... Happy Thanksgiving guys and BOL 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 4:23 AM ET #16

    I went 1-0 Ken!
    Didn't track those other lines and played Oklahom very early and got it in at 196!
    Sorry for the other guys.
    Great work. You keep em coming!

    Have the best Thanksgiving everyone!


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    I went 1-0 Ken!
    Didn't track those other lines and played Oklahom very early and got it in at 196!
    Sorry for the other guys.
    Great work. You keep em coming!

    Have the best Thanksgiving everyone!


     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 4:34 AM ET #17

    Better jump on Orl/Was .. already moved a point in my direction ... I got it at 200 now 199.
     
    Yea, Happy Thanksgiving !!!
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    Better jump on Orl/Was .. already moved a point in my direction ... I got it at 200 now 199.
     
    Yea, Happy Thanksgiving !!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 10:35 AM ET #18

    well today new day we will try to get it today.
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    well today new day we will try to get it today.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 11:37 AM ET #19

    ....Orl/Wash is the bet tonight...Under 200 (11.8)
     
    but if the line goes less than 200 but threshhold is still above (9.4) then don't bet it....
     
    if line goes the other way above 200 then bet it...
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    ....Orl/Wash is the bet tonight...Under 200 (11.8)
     
    but if the line goes less than 200 but threshhold is still above (9.4) then don't bet it....
     
    if line goes the other way above 200 then bet it...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 11:41 AM ET #20

    ....doesn't make any sense ken...
     
    ...it would seem that as long as the "threshold" number for the game in question was above your (9.4) then it would still be a bet...right...
    ...does the threshhold number need to be higher?
     
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    ....doesn't make any sense ken...
     
    ...it would seem that as long as the "threshold" number for the game in question was above your (9.4) then it would still be a bet...right...
    ...does the threshhold number need to be higher?
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 1:46 PM ET #21

    Been watching both systems, bet the wash. under @ 199
     
    HAPPY THANKSGIVING and thanks for the posts
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    Been watching both systems, bet the wash. under @ 199
     
    HAPPY THANKSGIVING and thanks for the posts
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 2:06 PM ET #22

    HeaVin,  WOW 7-0 WTG!!!  I missed seeing that last nite.
     
    Gas,  If it starts above (and stays above) the threshold you are ok, to bet it.  It's when it is not in the threshold to begin with then the line change puts it in that you better beware.  You may lose the "squeaker" games with your local book where the rest of us win, but that's the price you pay.  I see it's at 198 now (9.8) I would not bet anything lower then that with your book, maybe 197.5 (9.3)
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    HeaVin,  WOW 7-0 WTG!!!  I missed seeing that last nite.
     
    Gas,  If it starts above (and stays above) the threshold you are ok, to bet it.  It's when it is not in the threshold to begin with then the line change puts it in that you better beware.  You may lose the "squeaker" games with your local book where the rest of us win, but that's the price you pay.  I see it's at 198 now (9.8) I would not bet anything lower then that with your book, maybe 197.5 (9.3)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 11:02 PM ET #23

    ....Orl/Was....under 198 (9.8)...winner
     
    ...NO/Den...Over 197 (3.8)...pending
     
    I know the last game is not in the "threshhold" range but today is my lucky day!!!!
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    ....Orl/Was....under 198 (9.8)...winner
     
    ...NO/Den...Over 197 (3.8)...pending
     
    I know the last game is not in the "threshhold" range but today is my lucky day!!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2008 - 11:33 PM ET #24

    This is weird, posts are not showing up then showing up later.  HeaVin's did it last nite and now I see Gas's 8:37 am post for the first time.  Gas I think I know where the confusion is ... when I say the line is moving "in my favor" I mean it is looking less attractive.  ie if I bet Orl/Was Under at 200 and it moves to 197.5 then it moved 2.5 points in my favor.  It means the books want money on the over, which is good for my bet at 200.  So your 8:37am post is backwards from what I am saying to you.
     
    I'll check all the picks and make a post showing how the line moved and how the picks did, just for shits and giggles, and I am curious now.
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    This is weird, posts are not showing up then showing up later.  HeaVin's did it last nite and now I see Gas's 8:37 am post for the first time.  Gas I think I know where the confusion is ... when I say the line is moving "in my favor" I mean it is looking less attractive.  ie if I bet Orl/Was Under at 200 and it moves to 197.5 then it moved 2.5 points in my favor.  It means the books want money on the over, which is good for my bet at 200.  So your 8:37am post is backwards from what I am saying to you.
     
    I'll check all the picks and make a post showing how the line moved and how the picks did, just for shits and giggles, and I am curious now.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2008 - 12:17 AM ET #25

    11/23 Boston/Toronto 0.5 W
    11/21 Orlando/Indiana 1.5 W
    11/22 Atlanta/Cleveland 1.5 W
    11/27 Orlando/Washington 2.5 W
    11/24 Philadelphia/Charlotte 3 W
    11/26 Oklahoma City/Cleveland 4 W
    11/22 Washington/New York -6 W
    11/25 Phoenix/Oklahoma City -3.5 W
    11/21 New York/Milwaukee -2.5 W
    11/23 Golden State/Philadelphia -0.5 W
    11/21 Utah/San Antonio 0 L
    11/25 Golden State/Washington 2 L
    11/24 Sacramento/Portland 3 L
    11/26 Golden State/Boston -3.5 L
    11/26 Denver/LA Clippers -0.5 L
     
    Ok, here are the results.  If the number is positive it means the line moved in my favor.  It shows in 6 of the wins the line moved in my favor and in 4 of the wins it moved against me.  So I am 6-3 when the lines move with the picks and 4-2 when the line moves against, same % for each case.  It also shows the line moves with my picks in 9 out of the 15 games so far.
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    11/23 Boston/Toronto 0.5 W
    11/21 Orlando/Indiana 1.5 W
    11/22 Atlanta/Cleveland 1.5 W
    11/27 Orlando/Washington 2.5 W
    11/24 Philadelphia/Charlotte 3 W
    11/26 Oklahoma City/Cleveland 4 W
    11/22 Washington/New York -6 W
    11/25 Phoenix/Oklahoma City -3.5 W
    11/21 New York/Milwaukee -2.5 W
    11/23 Golden State/Philadelphia -0.5 W
    11/21 Utah/San Antonio 0 L
    11/25 Golden State/Washington 2 L
    11/24 Sacramento/Portland 3 L
    11/26 Golden State/Boston -3.5 L
    11/26 Denver/LA Clippers -0.5 L
     
    Ok, here are the results.  If the number is positive it means the line moved in my favor.  It shows in 6 of the wins the line moved in my favor and in 4 of the wins it moved against me.  So I am 6-3 when the lines move with the picks and 4-2 when the line moves against, same % for each case.  It also shows the line moves with my picks in 9 out of the 15 games so far.
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