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    MontanaMax
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 6:27 PM ET #176

    Hmmm.......
    SN - question though........
    If the weekend didn't turn out so shitty, would the Dal play still be a play? To win 10 units risking 38? I mean would it be for less or you saw something in the films that stands out.
    Kreature could have a point which scares me but............ I don't know

    Attention hater squad out there..............
    This is gambling SN is not twisting anyone's arm to wager
    Its your decision
    I can see who is feeling the pain which is normal but some are just bitching like degenerates. Those might not think who they are but yes you are a degenerate cry babies
    Shit happens and I got creamed too - boo hoo -boo hoo hoo
    We will lose battles
    But as long as we win more then we lose......... We win the war against the books
    Ask George Washington when anyone meets him
    There was a shitload of casualties in the revolutionary war but we did gain independence from Britain
    At a hefty price though..............

    Guys like SN said - long term - I know it hurts our bankroll right now but whoever wants to hate on me or SN's picks I want to see if your picks and if they would be more than successful than SN at the  end of the season
    Not to mention taking 428 units from the books out of baseball

    Its a marathon not a sprint...............
    Whoever wants to stick around lets rock
    For those who ain't got the marbles to dance????????
    Your bad as you sit on the sidelines losing $$$$ on your spreads

    For those who keep it real.........
    I'm with ya...... This isn't directed at you but for the younng bucks who come crawling out after shitty days
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    Hmmm.......
    SN - question though........
    If the weekend didn't turn out so shitty, would the Dal play still be a play? To win 10 units risking 38? I mean would it be for less or you saw something in the films that stands out.
    Kreature could have a point which scares me but............ I don't know

    Attention hater squad out there..............
    This is gambling SN is not twisting anyone's arm to wager
    Its your decision
    I can see who is feeling the pain which is normal but some are just bitching like degenerates. Those might not think who they are but yes you are a degenerate cry babies
    Shit happens and I got creamed too - boo hoo -boo hoo hoo
    We will lose battles
    But as long as we win more then we lose......... We win the war against the books
    Ask George Washington when anyone meets him
    There was a shitload of casualties in the revolutionary war but we did gain independence from Britain
    At a hefty price though..............

    Guys like SN said - long term - I know it hurts our bankroll right now but whoever wants to hate on me or SN's picks I want to see if your picks and if they would be more than successful than SN at the  end of the season
    Not to mention taking 428 units from the books out of baseball

    Its a marathon not a sprint...............
    Whoever wants to stick around lets rock
    For those who ain't got the marbles to dance????????
    Your bad as you sit on the sidelines losing $$$$ on your spreads

    For those who keep it real.........
    I'm with ya...... This isn't directed at you but for the younng bucks who come crawling out after shitty days
     
    FreakyFresh
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 7:47 PM ET #177

    I have never posted on any of your stuff SN, but I have read most of it; from a majority of your baseball stuff on sabermetrics which was absolutely amazing to all of this thread which is equally as great man. Props to all of your hard work, I can tell you know your this business inside and out. You truly are a grade A capper.

    I really don't want to sound like I am hating on you because like I said I really think you have this thing down pat, but this huge 38 unit play tonight on Dallas seems uncharacteristic. You seem to have strict money management skills, more strict than I have seen up to this point than just about any capper on here, so I can't really understand the size of this play.

    I mean it is somewhat suspect that you didn't like this game enough to put it on the teaser or play it by itself on the card intially, and now are risking this much on it. After the tough losses yesterday did you happen to study much more film today than usual to try and win back what you lost?

    Also if you don't mind me asking I am extremely curious how much 1 single unit is equal to for you? What percentage of your bankroll is 1 unit/Does it fluctuate/Does it remain the same until you reach a desired level then change?.. because I believe this is one of the most important parts to money management skills

    Thanks alot man, keep up the great work, again I don't mean to sound like a hater, cause I am a big time fan and avid reader. -Freaky
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    I have never posted on any of your stuff SN, but I have read most of it; from a majority of your baseball stuff on sabermetrics which was absolutely amazing to all of this thread which is equally as great man. Props to all of your hard work, I can tell you know your this business inside and out. You truly are a grade A capper.

    I really don't want to sound like I am hating on you because like I said I really think you have this thing down pat, but this huge 38 unit play tonight on Dallas seems uncharacteristic. You seem to have strict money management skills, more strict than I have seen up to this point than just about any capper on here, so I can't really understand the size of this play.

    I mean it is somewhat suspect that you didn't like this game enough to put it on the teaser or play it by itself on the card intially, and now are risking this much on it. After the tough losses yesterday did you happen to study much more film today than usual to try and win back what you lost?

    Also if you don't mind me asking I am extremely curious how much 1 single unit is equal to for you? What percentage of your bankroll is 1 unit/Does it fluctuate/Does it remain the same until you reach a desired level then change?.. because I believe this is one of the most important parts to money management skills

    Thanks alot man, keep up the great work, again I don't mean to sound like a hater, cause I am a big time fan and avid reader. -Freaky
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2009 - 10:13 PM ET #178

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:

    Hmmm.......
    SN - question though........
    If the weekend didn't turn out so shitty, would the Dal play still be a play? To win 10 units risking 38? I mean would it be for less or you saw something in the films that stands out.
    Kreature could have a point which scares me but............ I don't know

    Attention hater squad out there..............
    This is gambling SN is not twisting anyone's arm to wager
    Its your decision
    I can see who is feeling the pain which is normal but some are just bitching like degenerates. Those might not think who they are but yes you are a degenerate cry babies
    Shit happens and I got creamed too - boo hoo -boo hoo hoo
    We will lose battles
    But as long as we win more then we lose......... We win the war against the books
    Ask George Washington when anyone meets him
    There was a shitload of casualties in the revolutionary war but we did gain independence from Britain
    At a hefty price though..............

    Guys like SN said - long term - I know it hurts our bankroll right now but whoever wants to hate on me or SN's picks I want to see if your picks and if they would be more than successful than SN at the  end of the season
    Not to mention taking 428 units from the books out of baseball

    Its a marathon not a sprint...............
    Whoever wants to stick around lets rock
    For those who ain't got the marbles to dance????????
    Your bad as you sit on the sidelines losing $$$$ on your spreads

    For those who keep it real.........
    I'm with ya...... This isn't directed at you but for the younng bucks who come crawling out after shitty days


    I agree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:

    Hmmm.......
    SN - question though........
    If the weekend didn't turn out so shitty, would the Dal play still be a play? To win 10 units risking 38? I mean would it be for less or you saw something in the films that stands out.
    Kreature could have a point which scares me but............ I don't know

    Attention hater squad out there..............
    This is gambling SN is not twisting anyone's arm to wager
    Its your decision
    I can see who is feeling the pain which is normal but some are just bitching like degenerates. Those might not think who they are but yes you are a degenerate cry babies
    Shit happens and I got creamed too - boo hoo -boo hoo hoo
    We will lose battles
    But as long as we win more then we lose......... We win the war against the books
    Ask George Washington when anyone meets him
    There was a shitload of casualties in the revolutionary war but we did gain independence from Britain
    At a hefty price though..............

    Guys like SN said - long term - I know it hurts our bankroll right now but whoever wants to hate on me or SN's picks I want to see if your picks and if they would be more than successful than SN at the  end of the season
    Not to mention taking 428 units from the books out of baseball

    Its a marathon not a sprint...............
    Whoever wants to stick around lets rock
    For those who ain't got the marbles to dance????????
    Your bad as you sit on the sidelines losing $$$$ on your spreads

    For those who keep it real.........
    I'm with ya...... This isn't directed at you but for the younng bucks who come crawling out after shitty days


    I agree!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 7:13 AM ET #179

    [Quote: Originally Posted by sports_Network] NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110...win
    Bills+19.5 -110...loss
    Dolphins+19.5 -115...win
    Cardinals+10.5 -120...loss
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    FINAL RESULTS
    2-2
    units: -13
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units...loss
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units...win
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units...win
     
     
     
    DOG RELEASE
    StLouis Rams+7 -110 / 2.2units...loss
     
    week three MM +16.1k units
     
    SN
     
     
    final results
    2-2
    units: -2.7
     
    combined totals:
    4-4
    units: -15.7
     
    NFL 09' thru week three:
    +0.4units
     
    MM assessment, Forfeiting 15.7units of profit cannot be accepted, but can be expected, as Sundays un-projected losses..Fortunately the game plan is still in motion to Recover..enter Monday Night Football...
     
                        DALLAS COWBOYS -380 ML / 38units...win / +10k units...
     
    NFL 09' +10.4units
     
    SN
     
     
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by sports_Network] NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110...win
    Bills+19.5 -110...loss
    Dolphins+19.5 -115...win
    Cardinals+10.5 -120...loss
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    FINAL RESULTS
    2-2
    units: -13
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units...loss
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units...win
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units...win
     
     
     
    DOG RELEASE
    StLouis Rams+7 -110 / 2.2units...loss
     
    week three MM +16.1k units
     
    SN
     
     
    final results
    2-2
    units: -2.7
     
    combined totals:
    4-4
    units: -15.7
     
    NFL 09' thru week three:
    +0.4units
     
    MM assessment, Forfeiting 15.7units of profit cannot be accepted, but can be expected, as Sundays un-projected losses..Fortunately the game plan is still in motion to Recover..enter Monday Night Football...
     
                        DALLAS COWBOYS -380 ML / 38units...win / +10k units...
     
    NFL 09' +10.4units
     
    SN
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 9:34 AM ET #180

    Now that was the Delhomme we know and love.
    Nice recovery. Left that one alone, looking for recovery on future wagering.
    See you later this week...
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    Now that was the Delhomme we know and love.
    Nice recovery. Left that one alone, looking for recovery on future wagering.
    See you later this week...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 1:08 PM ET #181

    i thot , when you play on FAVORITE TEAM ..like Money line
     
    Baltmore -780....you have to put down ..780 dollar to win...100 dollar....which means. you only one UNIT?? a bill?
     
    Dallas cowbows,,,,if ur 100 dollar better.....38 units equal to $3800....you won 1000 dollar right?
     
    i dont understand....-780....baltmore..and u won 7.8  units..too
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    i thot , when you play on FAVORITE TEAM ..like Money line
     
    Baltmore -780....you have to put down ..780 dollar to win...100 dollar....which means. you only one UNIT?? a bill?
     
    Dallas cowbows,,,,if ur 100 dollar better.....38 units equal to $3800....you won 1000 dollar right?
     
    i dont understand....-780....baltmore..and u won 7.8  units..too
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 2:31 PM ET #182

    hanjoon,

    calculator + simple algebra = answer

    carry on..
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    hanjoon,

    calculator + simple algebra = answer

    carry on..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 5:05 PM ET #183

    Quote Originally Posted by hanjoon:

    i thot , when you play on FAVORITE TEAM ..like Money line
     
    Baltmore -780....you have to put down ..780 dollar to win...100 dollar....which means. you only one UNIT?? a bill?
     
    Dallas cowbows,,,,if ur 100 dollar better.....38 units equal to $3800....you won 1000 dollar right?
     
    i dont understand....-780....baltmore..and u won 7.8  units..too


    No.. he WAGERED 7.8 Units, and the bet won. He won 1 Unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanjoon:

    i thot , when you play on FAVORITE TEAM ..like Money line
     
    Baltmore -780....you have to put down ..780 dollar to win...100 dollar....which means. you only one UNIT?? a bill?
     
    Dallas cowbows,,,,if ur 100 dollar better.....38 units equal to $3800....you won 1000 dollar right?
     
    i dont understand....-780....baltmore..and u won 7.8  units..too


    No.. he WAGERED 7.8 Units, and the bet won. He won 1 Unit.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 6:01 PM ET #184

    yes douchebags....but look at his report..
     
    he said... we won 7.8 units too...right after
    RAVENS -780..= 7.8 units .... won
    i am right
     
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    yes douchebags....but look at his report..
     
    he said... we won 7.8 units too...right after
    RAVENS -780..= 7.8 units .... won
    i am right
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 6:02 PM ET #185

    yes but HE STATED HE WON FREAKING  7.8 units man
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    yes but HE STATED HE WON FREAKING  7.8 units man
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
     
    SN
     
     
    final


    If you were to look back at his original game selections post, you would see he writes how many Units he is wagering beside each pick.. Then, when the games are completed, he copies and pastes that post and writes ...win, or, ...loss, beside each one.

    This is his style, if you had read any previous posts you would know this, instead of just jumping to the last post in the thread and start foaming at the mouth like a rabid chihuahua.

    And if.. well I'm just gonna leave it at that, cuz people like this really piss me off and I'm all ready in a bad mood today.


    Keep up the solid work sN .. enjoy reading. 
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    NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
     
    SN
     
     
    final


    If you were to look back at his original game selections post, you would see he writes how many Units he is wagering beside each pick.. Then, when the games are completed, he copies and pastes that post and writes ...win, or, ...loss, beside each one.

    This is his style, if you had read any previous posts you would know this, instead of just jumping to the last post in the thread and start foaming at the mouth like a rabid chihuahua.

    And if.. well I'm just gonna leave it at that, cuz people like this really piss me off and I'm all ready in a bad mood today.


    Keep up the solid work sN .. enjoy reading. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 7:25 PM ET #187

    handjob,

    look at this total units won. if he had added in 7.8 units from the ravens win then he'd be up a lot more than the .4 units after sunday. 
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    look at this total units won. if he had added in 7.8 units from the ravens win then he'd be up a lot more than the .4 units after sunday. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2009 - 7:51 PM ET #188

    hanjoon, please don't embarrass yourself anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanjoon:

    yes douchebags....but look at his report..
     
    he said... we won 7.8 units too...right after
    RAVENS -780..= 7.8 units .... won
    i am right
     


    not even close...
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    yes douchebags....but look at his report..
     
    he said... we won 7.8 units too...right after
    RAVENS -780..= 7.8 units .... won
    i am right
     


    not even close...
     
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    NFL 09' strategic wagering Matchup_Performance formula...
     
    early win releases
    10/05/09
     
    Bengals***
    Giants***
    Ravens**
    Saints**
    Cowboys**
    49er's***
    Vikings****
     
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    Ravens**
    Saints**
    Cowboys**
    49er's***
    Vikings****
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 11:25 AM ET #191

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Now that was the Delhomme we know and love.
    Nice recovery. Left that one alone, looking for recovery on future wagering.
    See you later this week...

    Fortunately......good call

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Now that was the Delhomme we know and love.
    Nice recovery. Left that one alone, looking for recovery on future wagering.
    See you later this week...

    Fortunately......good call

    SN

     
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    Hanjoon:
     
    You are like the guy in college who never came to class all semester, then shows up to the final exam and asks people if you can borrow a #2 pencil and their calculator.
     
    You are like the guy that calls customer service for the new computer he bought because he can't find the 'ANY' key after the screen prompted him to press 'ANY' key to continue.
     
    You are like the ticket sales lady in Tommy Boy that offers a ticket coming back from chicago next week, when they are trying to go to chicago today. Then says "I don't think so?" when asked by Richard "Hi, I'm Earth, have we met?"
     
    Please stop posting in the strategies forums. You are driving people crazy.

    Sorry to clutter your thread SN, I just had to get that out. This guys has been driving me crazy for weeks now on other threads with similar nonsense.
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    You are like the guy in college who never came to class all semester, then shows up to the final exam and asks people if you can borrow a #2 pencil and their calculator.
     
    You are like the guy that calls customer service for the new computer he bought because he can't find the 'ANY' key after the screen prompted him to press 'ANY' key to continue.
     
    You are like the ticket sales lady in Tommy Boy that offers a ticket coming back from chicago next week, when they are trying to go to chicago today. Then says "I don't think so?" when asked by Richard "Hi, I'm Earth, have we met?"
     
    Please stop posting in the strategies forums. You are driving people crazy.

    Sorry to clutter your thread SN, I just had to get that out. This guys has been driving me crazy for weeks now on other threads with similar nonsense.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 11:38 AM ET #194

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:

    Hmmm.......
    SN - question though........
    If the weekend didn't turn out so shitty, would the Dal play still be a play? To win 10 units risking 38? I mean would it be for less or you saw something in the films that stands out.
    Kreature could have a point which scares me but............ I don't know

    Attention hater squad out there..............
    This is gambling SN is not twisting anyone's arm to wager
    Its your decision
    I can see who is feeling the pain which is normal but some are just bitching like degenerates. Those might not think who they are but yes you are a degenerate cry babies
    Shit happens and I got creamed too - boo hoo -boo hoo hoo
    We will lose battles
    But as long as we win more then we lose......... We win the war against the books
    Ask George Washington when anyone meets him
    There was a shitload of casualties in the revolutionary war but we did gain independence from Britain
    At a hefty price though..............

    Guys like SN said - long term - I know it hurts our bankroll right now but whoever wants to hate on me or SN's picks I want to see if your picks and if they would be more than successful than SN at the  end of the season
    Not to mention taking 428 units from the books out of baseball

    Its a marathon not a sprint...............
    Whoever wants to stick around lets rock
    For those who ain't got the marbles to dance????????
    Your bad as you sit on the sidelines losing $$$$ on your spreads

    For those who keep it real.........
    I'm with ya...... This isn't directed at you but for the younng bucks who come crawling out after shitty days

    38cents to get a Dime / my MM consist of expenses, MNF was the altenative to walk a way from week three a 10unit winner instead of a -15.7unit loser..a 24.3unit differential..It was pre-meditated to absorb loss, through a final ML wager...

    best regards

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    Hmmm.......
    SN - question though........
    If the weekend didn't turn out so shitty, would the Dal play still be a play? To win 10 units risking 38? I mean would it be for less or you saw something in the films that stands out.
    Kreature could have a point which scares me but............ I don't know

    Attention hater squad out there..............
    This is gambling SN is not twisting anyone's arm to wager
    Its your decision
    I can see who is feeling the pain which is normal but some are just bitching like degenerates. Those might not think who they are but yes you are a degenerate cry babies
    Shit happens and I got creamed too - boo hoo -boo hoo hoo
    We will lose battles
    But as long as we win more then we lose......... We win the war against the books
    Ask George Washington when anyone meets him
    There was a shitload of casualties in the revolutionary war but we did gain independence from Britain
    At a hefty price though..............

    Guys like SN said - long term - I know it hurts our bankroll right now but whoever wants to hate on me or SN's picks I want to see if your picks and if they would be more than successful than SN at the  end of the season
    Not to mention taking 428 units from the books out of baseball

    Its a marathon not a sprint...............
    Whoever wants to stick around lets rock
    For those who ain't got the marbles to dance????????
    Your bad as you sit on the sidelines losing $$$$ on your spreads

    For those who keep it real.........
    I'm with ya...... This isn't directed at you but for the younng bucks who come crawling out after shitty days

    38cents to get a Dime / my MM consist of expenses, MNF was the altenative to walk a way from week three a 10unit winner instead of a -15.7unit loser..a 24.3unit differential..It was pre-meditated to absorb loss, through a final ML wager...

    best regards

    SN

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 11:47 AM ET #195

    Quote Originally Posted by FreakyFresh:

    I have never posted on any of your stuff SN, but I have read most of it; from a majority of your baseball stuff on sabermetrics which was absolutely amazing to all of this thread which is equally as great man. Props to all of your hard work, I can tell you know your this business inside and out. You truly are a grade A capper.

    I really don't want to sound like I am hating on you because like I said I really think you have this thing down pat, but this huge 38 unit play tonight on Dallas seems uncharacteristic. You seem to have strict money management skills, more strict than I have seen up to this point than just about any capper on here, so I can't really understand the size of this play.

    I mean it is somewhat suspect that you didn't like this game enough to put it on the teaser or play it by itself on the card intially, and now are risking this much on it. After the tough losses yesterday did you happen to study much more film today than usual to try and win back what you lost?

    Also if you don't mind me asking I am extremely curious how much 1 single unit is equal to for you? What percentage of your bankroll is 1 unit/Does it fluctuate/Does it remain the same until you reach a desired level then change?.. because I believe this is one of the most important parts to money management skills

    Thanks alot man, keep up the great work, again I don't mean to sound like a hater, cause I am a big time fan and avid reader. -Freaky

    everything flucuates, your "extreme curiosity" can be nourished by reading the final results on the release sheet, where unit denomination is clearly indicated by re:k ....

    best regards

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    I have never posted on any of your stuff SN, but I have read most of it; from a majority of your baseball stuff on sabermetrics which was absolutely amazing to all of this thread which is equally as great man. Props to all of your hard work, I can tell you know your this business inside and out. You truly are a grade A capper.

    I really don't want to sound like I am hating on you because like I said I really think you have this thing down pat, but this huge 38 unit play tonight on Dallas seems uncharacteristic. You seem to have strict money management skills, more strict than I have seen up to this point than just about any capper on here, so I can't really understand the size of this play.

    I mean it is somewhat suspect that you didn't like this game enough to put it on the teaser or play it by itself on the card intially, and now are risking this much on it. After the tough losses yesterday did you happen to study much more film today than usual to try and win back what you lost?

    Also if you don't mind me asking I am extremely curious how much 1 single unit is equal to for you? What percentage of your bankroll is 1 unit/Does it fluctuate/Does it remain the same until you reach a desired level then change?.. because I believe this is one of the most important parts to money management skills

    Thanks alot man, keep up the great work, again I don't mean to sound like a hater, cause I am a big time fan and avid reader. -Freaky

    everything flucuates, your "extreme curiosity" can be nourished by reading the final results on the release sheet, where unit denomination is clearly indicated by re:k ....

    best regards

    SN

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by K4ngur13:



    not even close...

    K4ngur13

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    not even close...

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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2009 - 5:59 PM ET #198

    [Quote: Originally Posted by sports_Network]
    NFL 09' strategic wagering Matchup_Performance formula...
     
    early win releases
    10/05/09
     
    Bengals***
    Giants***
    Ravens**
    Saints**
    Cowboys**
    49er's***
    Vikings****
     
    SN
     
    Are these ml or spread selections SN?
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    NFL 09' strategic wagering Matchup_Performance formula...
     
    early win releases
    10/05/09
     
    Bengals***
    Giants***
    Ravens**
    Saints**
    Cowboys**
    49er's***
    Vikings****
     
    SN
     
    Are these ml or spread selections SN?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    everything flucuates, your "extreme curiosity" can be nourished by reading the final results on the release sheet, where unit denomination is clearly indicated by re:k ....

    best regards

    SN



    No, you obviously misunderstood my question. I understand that your units fluctuate week to week, based on the value you find in the game and for situations like recovery.

    I wasn't asking how much 1 unit is worth for you, because that really doesn't matter because it differs from gambler to gambler.

    *************************************************************************

    I am simply asking what is the relationship between 1 unit and your bankroll?

    Do you use a constant unit wager throughout the duration of a season? For example do you decide that 1 unit will be 2% of your starting bankroll for the season and then for the duration of the season your unit value remains the same (2% of starting bankroll)?

    Or do you breakdown the season into groups, and then readjust the value of 1 unit based on your bankroll at the time?

    Or lastly, the least suggested theory, do you wager a fixed % of your bankroll each week. (Meaning your unit size would differ from week to week?

    From what I have seen, you seem to put k next to the units, which I am guessing would stand for $1,000. I have seen this quite often on your sheets, so I am taking it that you decide what 1 unit will be at the beginning of the season ($1,000) based on a percentage of your bankroll, and keep this wager consistent throughout the season?

    I have not once ever seen you post anything about a bankroll, even if for documentation purposes you make a hypothetical one. If you don't have one, I then would become skeptical of your real money management skills, because that's really the first step for any skilled money management system.

    If you do have one, then you should be able to answer my question straightforward by telling me and everyone else what type of system you use, and how 1 unit relates to your bankroll. I don't want to be referred to anything that isn't going to answer my question either.

    Without a bankroll, a unit really is worthless because it isn't based on anything, it has no ground to stand on. Without this relationship, +/- total units or all that bull crap mean nothing. Without this relationship, there is no way to accurately determine Return on Initial Investment.

    I only ask this question after you wager 36 units on Dallas the other night, because it opened alot of red flags. I will explain more in-depth if anyone wants to hear about it really.

    I know this is long, but I think this needs to be brought to the forefront. Not only does this apply to this thread, but to 100% of all other threads that keep track of +/- units without stating a relationship between a unit and bankroll.

    You will say that it is left to the better to determine such, but it really isn't. If you are the one to judge the strength of the plays and the value of the bets, then you need to clarify how that relates to wagering units (which you have done here, not in the baseball one though), because you are the one that truly understands the system.

    Without this information, your picks are deemed worthless in the long run to the followers. Yeah, yeah I know I will get hater, but please answer my basic question. - Freaky
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    everything flucuates, your "extreme curiosity" can be nourished by reading the final results on the release sheet, where unit denomination is clearly indicated by re:k ....

    best regards

    SN



    No, you obviously misunderstood my question. I understand that your units fluctuate week to week, based on the value you find in the game and for situations like recovery.

    I wasn't asking how much 1 unit is worth for you, because that really doesn't matter because it differs from gambler to gambler.

    *************************************************************************

    I am simply asking what is the relationship between 1 unit and your bankroll?

    Do you use a constant unit wager throughout the duration of a season? For example do you decide that 1 unit will be 2% of your starting bankroll for the season and then for the duration of the season your unit value remains the same (2% of starting bankroll)?

    Or do you breakdown the season into groups, and then readjust the value of 1 unit based on your bankroll at the time?

    Or lastly, the least suggested theory, do you wager a fixed % of your bankroll each week. (Meaning your unit size would differ from week to week?

    From what I have seen, you seem to put k next to the units, which I am guessing would stand for $1,000. I have seen this quite often on your sheets, so I am taking it that you decide what 1 unit will be at the beginning of the season ($1,000) based on a percentage of your bankroll, and keep this wager consistent throughout the season?

    I have not once ever seen you post anything about a bankroll, even if for documentation purposes you make a hypothetical one. If you don't have one, I then would become skeptical of your real money management skills, because that's really the first step for any skilled money management system.

    If you do have one, then you should be able to answer my question straightforward by telling me and everyone else what type of system you use, and how 1 unit relates to your bankroll. I don't want to be referred to anything that isn't going to answer my question either.

    Without a bankroll, a unit really is worthless because it isn't based on anything, it has no ground to stand on. Without this relationship, +/- total units or all that bull crap mean nothing. Without this relationship, there is no way to accurately determine Return on Initial Investment.

    I only ask this question after you wager 36 units on Dallas the other night, because it opened alot of red flags. I will explain more in-depth if anyone wants to hear about it really.

    I know this is long, but I think this needs to be brought to the forefront. Not only does this apply to this thread, but to 100% of all other threads that keep track of +/- units without stating a relationship between a unit and bankroll.

    You will say that it is left to the better to determine such, but it really isn't. If you are the one to judge the strength of the plays and the value of the bets, then you need to clarify how that relates to wagering units (which you have done here, not in the baseball one though), because you are the one that truly understands the system.

    Without this information, your picks are deemed worthless in the long run to the followers. Yeah, yeah I know I will get hater, but please answer my basic question. - Freaky
     
     
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    If Hanjob speaks and we don't reply back................
    Does he then exist??????????????

    Seems he uhhh hmmm......... get's off in the basement of his parent's house to the attention we're giving him. Not worth it.......

    Ha....... Youngbucks
    Can't live with 'em
    Can't live with 'em

    Shall we move guys?
     We got books to fry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    SN
    You said you were gonna be doing MLB playoffs right?
    Or was tripping?
    Also in the past you might of said something that there could be some gold out there in them darn NHL hills? I would be all about it.
    Put me in coach........
    Big puck head..........

    Also guys although NBA is a shadow of what it use to be and I hate it these compared to what we grew up with.......... It can still be an ATM machine.

    Don't want to be such a bottom feeder an all as SN would say so I want help out too in bringing us some more of Hanjob's $$$$$ from the books with the NBA

    "Now we know and knowings half the battle".....................


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    If Hanjob speaks and we don't reply back................
    Does he then exist??????????????

    Seems he uhhh hmmm......... get's off in the basement of his parent's house to the attention we're giving him. Not worth it.......

    Ha....... Youngbucks
    Can't live with 'em
    Can't live with 'em

    Shall we move guys?
     We got books to fry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    SN
    You said you were gonna be doing MLB playoffs right?
    Or was tripping?
    Also in the past you might of said something that there could be some gold out there in them darn NHL hills? I would be all about it.
    Put me in coach........
    Big puck head..........

    Also guys although NBA is a shadow of what it use to be and I hate it these compared to what we grew up with.......... It can still be an ATM machine.

    Don't want to be such a bottom feeder an all as SN would say so I want help out too in bringing us some more of Hanjob's $$$$$ from the books with the NBA

    "Now we know and knowings half the battle".....................


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