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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 6:33 AM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by Insane07:

    Is the strategy that you are utilizing this season an initial attempt? Or is this a continuation of a developed strategy from previous seasons?

    Great work thus far, and thanks for your frequent posting and responses to all.

    I converted my form to 'film' 6 years ago, when wide field (coaches) film technology was made available...best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insane07:

    Is the strategy that you are utilizing this season an initial attempt? Or is this a continuation of a developed strategy from previous seasons?

    Great work thus far, and thanks for your frequent posting and responses to all.

    I converted my form to 'film' 6 years ago, when wide field (coaches) film technology was made available...best regards

    SN

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 12:24 PM ET #127

    I am not huge on NFL as I am on MLB and NCAA.  But do you think I can do as well just by applying Stats and Saber-metrics into NFL?

    Thank You
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    I am not huge on NFL as I am on MLB and NCAA.  But do you think I can do as well just by applying Stats and Saber-metrics into NFL?

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    K4ngur13, you are watching the stats you seek on film, being created. and iniciated on screen to disect your capp; sabermetrics are attached to MM equations based on the pointspread, and have no formulas attached to handicapping a winning edge. The NFL is about weekly Matchups, and team performance, and is capped accordingly..you either have it, or you don't (watching film is simple; understanding the attachment of film to handicapping is complex, as is the Matchup_Performance application..best regards
     
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    K4ngur13, you are watching the stats you seek on film, being created. and iniciated on screen to disect your capp; sabermetrics are attached to MM equations based on the pointspread, and have no formulas attached to handicapping a winning edge. The NFL is about weekly Matchups, and team performance, and is capped accordingly..you either have it, or you don't (watching film is simple; understanding the attachment of film to handicapping is complex, as is the Matchup_Performance application..best regards
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 3:35 PM ET #129

    sn,i've been following since you first posted mlb research.just started wagering mlb this year,wagering nfl for four years mostly just learning mode still. just one question. will the ability to project teams for teasers become better as the season continues and the line gets sharper? or will the method of approach continue to evolve?     have been enjoying your threads.            bulichm               
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    sn,i've been following since you first posted mlb research.just started wagering mlb this year,wagering nfl for four years mostly just learning mode still. just one question. will the ability to project teams for teasers become better as the season continues and the line gets sharper? or will the method of approach continue to evolve?     have been enjoying your threads.            bulichm               
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2009 - 4:43 PM ET #130

    on your 13 point teasers will I have success on just 10 points?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    K4ngur13, you are watching the stats you seek on film, being created. and iniciated on screen to disect your capp; sabermetrics are attached to MM equations based on the pointspread, and have no formulas attached to handicapping a winning edge. The NFL is about weekly Matchups, and team performance, and is capped accordingly..you either have it, or you don't (watching film is simple; understanding the attachment of film to handicapping is complex, as is the Matchup_Performance application..best regards
     
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    Thank you for understanding SN
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    K4ngur13, you are watching the stats you seek on film, being created. and iniciated on screen to disect your capp; sabermetrics are attached to MM equations based on the pointspread, and have no formulas attached to handicapping a winning edge. The NFL is about weekly Matchups, and team performance, and is capped accordingly..you either have it, or you don't (watching film is simple; understanding the attachment of film to handicapping is complex, as is the Matchup_Performance application..best regards
     
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    Thank you for understanding SN
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulichm:

    sn,i've been following since you first posted mlb research.just started wagering mlb this year,wagering nfl for four years mostly just learning mode still. just one question. will the ability to project teams for teasers become better as the season continues and the line gets sharper? or will the method of approach continue to evolve?     have been enjoying your threads.            bulichm               

    I will reinforce an earlier assessment on teasers in general before answering your questions; to give insight to concept..teasers are extremely attractive on the exterior, especially to the novice, in-experienced amateurs who are un-aware of the interior motives connected to their winning ratio...Understanding, 80% of all 'teasers' lose, the 20% that win, are by 10% of advanced/professional handicappers, who have a winning ratio consistent to aprx 90%; the 'book' tolerates, and has knowledge of the same stats; based on the 8/2 ratio of profit gained, they are a welcomed commodity attached to NFL&NBA wagering(which are the only sports that offer them)

    as the season continues, the team 'reads' coincide with the sharpness of the Line, giving the advantage to the capper..

    the method of approach evolves, on a weekly basis, with adjustments, filters being turned on/off  additional variables attached, or reliefed. What stays stationary is the "Matchup_Performance" formula..core/foundation to a cappers NFL 'form'.. with the absence of M_P a capper is put at a severe dis-advantage when attaching 'tools' to form(it leaves a hole, and the 'edge' is forfieted) .....best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulichm:

    sn,i've been following since you first posted mlb research.just started wagering mlb this year,wagering nfl for four years mostly just learning mode still. just one question. will the ability to project teams for teasers become better as the season continues and the line gets sharper? or will the method of approach continue to evolve?     have been enjoying your threads.            bulichm               

    I will reinforce an earlier assessment on teasers in general before answering your questions; to give insight to concept..teasers are extremely attractive on the exterior, especially to the novice, in-experienced amateurs who are un-aware of the interior motives connected to their winning ratio...Understanding, 80% of all 'teasers' lose, the 20% that win, are by 10% of advanced/professional handicappers, who have a winning ratio consistent to aprx 90%; the 'book' tolerates, and has knowledge of the same stats; based on the 8/2 ratio of profit gained, they are a welcomed commodity attached to NFL&NBA wagering(which are the only sports that offer them)

    as the season continues, the team 'reads' coincide with the sharpness of the Line, giving the advantage to the capper..

    the method of approach evolves, on a weekly basis, with adjustments, filters being turned on/off  additional variables attached, or reliefed. What stays stationary is the "Matchup_Performance" formula..core/foundation to a cappers NFL 'form'.. with the absence of M_P a capper is put at a severe dis-advantage when attaching 'tools' to form(it leaves a hole, and the 'edge' is forfieted) .....best regards

    SN

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 5:50 AM ET #133

    Quote Originally Posted by cvinvegas:

    on your 13 point teasers will I have success on just 10 points?

    You would be forfeiting edge, to gain value, with added risk attached; which in return would put an indentation in your success ratio....best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvinvegas:

    on your 13 point teasers will I have success on just 10 points?

    You would be forfeiting edge, to gain value, with added risk attached; which in return would put an indentation in your success ratio....best regards

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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2009 - 9:15 PM ET #134

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    I converted my form to 'film' 6 years ago, when wide field (coaches) film technology was made available...best regards

    SN



    SN, thanks for your response. I was looking to jump on your teaser strategy with a martingale approach. I think some people call is 'chaser' in baseball and such. I wanted to discuss the details of my strategy with you. Please let me know if you are comfortable responding back and forth via private messages or if you'd rather me just post in the forums.

    How has M_P resulted in the past five/six seasons?

    Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    I converted my form to 'film' 6 years ago, when wide field (coaches) film technology was made available...best regards

    SN



    SN, thanks for your response. I was looking to jump on your teaser strategy with a martingale approach. I think some people call is 'chaser' in baseball and such. I wanted to discuss the details of my strategy with you. Please let me know if you are comfortable responding back and forth via private messages or if you'd rather me just post in the forums.

    How has M_P resulted in the past five/six seasons?

    Thanks again.
     
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    Insane07,
                     martingale/chase have no connection to handicapping the NFL,or this thread. There's no insight, concept , discussion-available.. Matchup_Performance has been 'reliable' over the past 6 nfl seasons.
     
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    Insane07,
                     martingale/chase have no connection to handicapping the NFL,or this thread. There's no insight, concept , discussion-available.. Matchup_Performance has been 'reliable' over the past 6 nfl seasons.
     
    best regards
     
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    NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110
    Bills+19.5 -110
    Dolphins+19.5 -115
    Cardinals+10.5 -120
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
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    NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110
    Bills+19.5 -110
    Dolphins+19.5 -115
    Cardinals+10.5 -120
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110
    Bills+19.5 -110
    Dolphins+19.5 -115
    Cardinals+10.5 -120
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
    SN
     
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    wow going big on this one  your lines are better i can only get ravens -.5, miami +19,  zona +10 and bills + 19.  i hope it doesnt bite me.    lets get it been waiting for this all week.  i had three teams in there wasnt sure about the zona game

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110
    Bills+19.5 -110
    Dolphins+19.5 -115
    Cardinals+10.5 -120
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
    SN
     
    ** dog release Saturday 09/26/09 noon EST

     

     

    wow going big on this one  your lines are better i can only get ravens -.5, miami +19,  zona +10 and bills + 19.  i hope it doesnt bite me.    lets get it been waiting for this all week.  i had three teams in there wasnt sure about the zona game

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110
    Bills+19.5 -110
    Dolphins+19.5 -115
    Cardinals+10.5 -120
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
    SN
     
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    Great Teaser SN! And Good Luck to you!

    As far as Ravens, you are betting them ML? -780? Maybe I just missed something in the thread. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110
    Bills+19.5 -110
    Dolphins+19.5 -115
    Cardinals+10.5 -120
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
    SN
     
    ** dog release Saturday 09/26/09 noon EST



    Great Teaser SN! And Good Luck to you!

    As far as Ravens, you are betting them ML? -780? Maybe I just missed something in the thread. Thank you.

    M
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2009 - 2:49 AM ET #139

     On the money line games, I'm assuming the units listed are the money risked?  For instance, for the redskins risking 2.5 units to win 1 unit (for example)?
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    I'll just continue asking a few things that others on here probably already know.  Is "matchup_performance formula" an established handicapping sytem that can be researched and studied somewhere, or is this the name Sports Network has created for his own personal capping system? 
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    I'll just continue asking a few things that others on here probably already know.  Is "matchup_performance formula" an established handicapping sytem that can be researched and studied somewhere, or is this the name Sports Network has created for his own personal capping system? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter13:

     On the money line games, I'm assuming the units listed are the money risked?  For instance, for the redskins risking 2.5 units to win 1 unit (for example)?

    Yes, that is correct....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter13:

     On the money line games, I'm assuming the units listed are the money risked?  For instance, for the redskins risking 2.5 units to win 1 unit (for example)?

    Yes, that is correct....

    SN

     
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    wow going big on this one  your lines are better i can only get ravens -.5, miami +19,  zona +10 and bills + 19.  i hope it doesnt bite me.    lets get it been waiting for this all week.  i had three teams in there wasnt sure about the zona game

    The early bird catches the worm....

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    wow going big on this one  your lines are better i can only get ravens -.5, miami +19,  zona +10 and bills + 19.  i hope it doesnt bite me.    lets get it been waiting for this all week.  i had three teams in there wasnt sure about the zona game

    The early bird catches the worm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter13:

    I'll just continue asking a few things that others on here probably already know.  Is "matchup_performance formula" an established handicapping sytem that can be researched and studied somewhere, or is this the name Sports Network has created for his own personal capping system? 

    The "Matchup_Performance" formula is directly connected to Frank Rosenthal(known to his friends as "Lefty") who innovated M_P in the 70's brought it into the limelight in the 80's connected it to the internet in the 90's gave it a 'new' dimension by incorporating the use of 'film' in the 21st century....

    Research & Study is un-limited..SPORTS ILLUSTRATED did an in-depth interview with Mr Rosenthal a few years back pertaining to his un-believable success at handicapping the NFL, and the methodology behind his form, which he described as "Matchup_Performance formula/originating in Chicago in the 60's before he introduced this form to the LasVegas sharps of the 70's.

    Lefty Rosenthal past away last year(2008), he was 78 years young, and considered by many, the greatest documented NFL handicapper of all time,undisputed....I agree with this assessment completely...

    The only creation attached to a personal handicapping system of sports_Network is 'form'.....to each his own

    best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapter13:

    I'll just continue asking a few things that others on here probably already know.  Is "matchup_performance formula" an established handicapping sytem that can be researched and studied somewhere, or is this the name Sports Network has created for his own personal capping system? 

    The "Matchup_Performance" formula is directly connected to Frank Rosenthal(known to his friends as "Lefty") who innovated M_P in the 70's brought it into the limelight in the 80's connected it to the internet in the 90's gave it a 'new' dimension by incorporating the use of 'film' in the 21st century....

    Research & Study is un-limited..SPORTS ILLUSTRATED did an in-depth interview with Mr Rosenthal a few years back pertaining to his un-believable success at handicapping the NFL, and the methodology behind his form, which he described as "Matchup_Performance formula/originating in Chicago in the 60's before he introduced this form to the LasVegas sharps of the 70's.

    Lefty Rosenthal past away last year(2008), he was 78 years young, and considered by many, the greatest documented NFL handicapper of all time,undisputed....I agree with this assessment completely...

    The only creation attached to a personal handicapping system of sports_Network is 'form'.....to each his own

    best regards

    SN

     
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    NFL 09' stategic wagering / Matchup_Performance formula...
    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110
    Bills+19.5 -110
    Dolphins+19.5 -115
    Cardinals+10.5 -120
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
     
     
    DOG RELEASE
    StLouis Rams+7 -110 / 2.2units
     
    week three MM +16.1k units
     
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    Sunday, September 27th, 2009
     
    Week III
    4team 13pt
     
    Ravens+1.5 -110
    Bills+19.5 -110
    Dolphins+19.5 -115
    Cardinals+10.5 -120
     
    Risk:13units
    To Win:10.2units
     
    *****************************************************************************
     
    Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units
    Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units
    Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units
     
     
     
    DOG RELEASE
    StLouis Rams+7 -110 / 2.2units
     
    week three MM +16.1k units
     
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    Miami I got getting 6, how many units are betting on them?
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    SN, just curious why this week your ML releases came out a day early? Thanks again for the responses :)
    Also, what is meant by MM? (week three MM+16.1kunits)
    All the best.
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    SN, just curious why this week your ML releases came out a day early? Thanks again for the responses :)
    Also, what is meant by MM? (week three MM+16.1kunits)
    All the best.
     
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    MM - Miami I believe
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    Insane07, MM/MoneyManagement...
     
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    ....cheers
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    i was wondering how come this teaser is for a lot more? is it because you are up units or you like it that much more then the previous ones.
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