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    Modified Sweep Chase 122-3 in AL in 2009

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    MILKMAN0923
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 5:49 AM ET #76

    i like both of the road tms.  I have already made a play on BOTH, TB and SF.  not only do they fall into the system but they both have a legit shot at winning gm 1....like i said BOST is a different tm and so is LA both have played like crap pretty much so far...
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    i like both of the road tms.  I have already made a play on BOTH, TB and SF.  not only do they fall into the system but they both have a legit shot at winning gm 1....like i said BOST is a different tm and so is LA both have played like crap pretty much so far...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 12:07 PM ET #77

    Milkman,

    Good luck today

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    Milkman,

    Good luck today

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 12:42 PM ET #78

    is houston a considerd play or not at cubs? i see the under hitting, but lean the astros...until now
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    is houston a considerd play or not at cubs? i see the under hitting, but lean the astros...until now
     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 12:58 PM ET #79

    System record: 3-0-0

    Plays for 4/16:

    ***Okay guys not sure how many people are following this system but there are a couple of issues with the upcoming plays I want to point out to everyone.  There are two possible plays starting tomorrow.

    Series #4 (Game 1) 7:10     TB @ bos -181

    Series #5 (Game 1) 10:10    SF @ lad -145

    Here are my concerns, with the opening lines this high there is a 20% chance of the home team sweeping the road team (based on last years results).  The TB/BOS series is a four game series which I would have skipped when backtesting as I didn't want to chase for four games.  I feel these teams will hit but we are all individuals and have to make decisions for ourselves.  I am going to offer to skip these series for those interested to the next series which are three games and will likely have better odds.

    Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

    I am surprised the lines for tomorrow are so high as I feel these teams are more evenly matched.  I want everyone to be as informed as possible and make the plays as they feel best.  The games tomorrow may be higher risk/reward.  Please play what you feel most comfortable with.  I will post the standard and alternate plays over the next 4-6 days.  This was backtested based on closing lines so if these significantly drop overnight the sf at lad would have fit the backtested criteria.  BOL to everyone

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    Game 1 wins= 2

    Game 2 wins = 1

    Game 3 wins = 0 

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    System record: 3-0-0

    Plays for 4/16:

    ***Okay guys not sure how many people are following this system but there are a couple of issues with the upcoming plays I want to point out to everyone.  There are two possible plays starting tomorrow.

    Series #4 (Game 1) 7:10     TB @ bos -181

    Series #5 (Game 1) 10:10    SF @ lad -145

    Here are my concerns, with the opening lines this high there is a 20% chance of the home team sweeping the road team (based on last years results).  The TB/BOS series is a four game series which I would have skipped when backtesting as I didn't want to chase for four games.  I feel these teams will hit but we are all individuals and have to make decisions for ourselves.  I am going to offer to skip these series for those interested to the next series which are three games and will likely have better odds.

    Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

    I am surprised the lines for tomorrow are so high as I feel these teams are more evenly matched.  I want everyone to be as informed as possible and make the plays as they feel best.  The games tomorrow may be higher risk/reward.  Please play what you feel most comfortable with.  I will post the standard and alternate plays over the next 4-6 days.  This was backtested based on closing lines so if these significantly drop overnight the sf at lad would have fit the backtested criteria.  BOL to everyone

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    Game 1 wins= 2

    Game 2 wins = 1

    Game 3 wins = 0 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 1:00 PM ET #80

    We won't play against houston until the 20th as they were last swept at home.  So we play against them their next home series.  Hope this makes sense.  The only plays for today would be SF or TB, but please read the above post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raidernator76:

    is houston a considerd play or not at cubs? i see the under hitting, but lean the astros...until now

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    We won't play against houston until the 20th as they were last swept at home.  So we play against them their next home series.  Hope this makes sense.  The only plays for today would be SF or TB, but please read the above post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raidernator76:

    is houston a considerd play or not at cubs? i see the under hitting, but lean the astros...until now

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 2:23 PM ET #81

    Thanx for the hard work

    SF today, if not , Lincecome tom.

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    Thanx for the hard work

    SF today, if not , Lincecome tom.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 16, 2010 - 2:59 PM ET #82

    I am with you SFJ.  Since these are contradictary plays in my two systems I wanted to give everyone as much info as possible and they can play the series they are most comfortable with.  I think LAD line is inflated here which could mean some good value for playing SF.
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    I am with you SFJ.  Since these are contradictary plays in my two systems I wanted to give everyone as much info as possible and they can play the series they are most comfortable with.  I think LAD line is inflated here which could mean some good value for playing SF.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2010 - 2:10 AM ET #83

    System record: 3-0-0

    Results for 4/16:

    Series #4 (Game 1) 7:10     TB @ bos -181  

    Series #5 (Game 1) 10:10    SF @ lad -145  

    Here are my concerns, with the opening lines this high there is a 20% chance of the home team sweeping the road team (based on last years results).  The TB/BOS series is a four game series which I would have skipped when backtesting as I didn't want to chase for four games.  I feel these teams will hit but we are all individuals and have to make decisions for ourselves.  I am going to offer to skip these series for those interested to the next series which are three games and will likely have better odds.

    Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

    I am surprised the lines for tomorrow are so high as I feel these teams are more evenly matched.  I want everyone to be as informed as possible and make the plays as they feel best.  The games tomorrow may be higher risk/reward.  Please play what you feel most comfortable with.  I will post the standard and alternate plays over the next 4-6 days.  This was backtested based on closing lines so if these significantly drop overnight the sf at lad would have fit the backtested criteria.  BOL to everyone

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    Game 1 wins= 2

    Game 2 wins = 1

    Game 3 wins = 0 

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    System record: 3-0-0

    Results for 4/16:

    Series #4 (Game 1) 7:10     TB @ bos -181  

    Series #5 (Game 1) 10:10    SF @ lad -145  

    Here are my concerns, with the opening lines this high there is a 20% chance of the home team sweeping the road team (based on last years results).  The TB/BOS series is a four game series which I would have skipped when backtesting as I didn't want to chase for four games.  I feel these teams will hit but we are all individuals and have to make decisions for ourselves.  I am going to offer to skip these series for those interested to the next series which are three games and will likely have better odds.

    Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

    I am surprised the lines for tomorrow are so high as I feel these teams are more evenly matched.  I want everyone to be as informed as possible and make the plays as they feel best.  The games tomorrow may be higher risk/reward.  Please play what you feel most comfortable with.  I will post the standard and alternate plays over the next 4-6 days.  This was backtested based on closing lines so if these significantly drop overnight the sf at lad would have fit the backtested criteria.  BOL to everyone

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    Game 1 wins= 2

    Game 2 wins = 1

    Game 3 wins = 0 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2010 - 2:13 AM ET #84

    System record: 3-0-0

    Plays for 4/17:

    ***Remember these are either/or series play the ones below or the alternates, whichever you feel most comfortable with.  Series 4 pushed gm 1, since there are still 3 games left can be a possible play.

    Series #4 (Game 1) 7:10     TB @ bos -130

    Series #5 (Game 2) 10:10    SF @ lad -145

    OR

    Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

      BOL to everyone

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    Game 1 wins= 2

    Game 2 wins = 1

    Game 3 wins = 0 

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    System record: 3-0-0

    Plays for 4/17:

    ***Remember these are either/or series play the ones below or the alternates, whichever you feel most comfortable with.  Series 4 pushed gm 1, since there are still 3 games left can be a possible play.

    Series #4 (Game 1) 7:10     TB @ bos -130

    Series #5 (Game 2) 10:10    SF @ lad -145

    OR

    Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

      BOL to everyone

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    Game 1 wins= 2

    Game 2 wins = 1

    Game 3 wins = 0 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2010 - 5:52 PM ET #85

    Guys,

    I looked back at last season to determine whether I could find any good filters and/or have any idea how to run 4 game series.  I found that if we skipped the first game and then played it as a 3 game series would not have affected the record.  I then looked at series that started -145 or higher opposing our desired result.  These scenarios contributed to two of the losses.  Skipping these series and going to the next  would have given us 1 loss also (saved us one loss).  Long story short I don't have any definitive filters to give you in these scenarios.  I am going to continue to post the options when these arise and you can play whichever you feel most comfortable with.

    Lets go Giants!  Finish this up!

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    Guys,

    I looked back at last season to determine whether I could find any good filters and/or have any idea how to run 4 game series.  I found that if we skipped the first game and then played it as a 3 game series would not have affected the record.  I then looked at series that started -145 or higher opposing our desired result.  These scenarios contributed to two of the losses.  Skipping these series and going to the next  would have given us 1 loss also (saved us one loss).  Long story short I don't have any definitive filters to give you in these scenarios.  I am going to continue to post the options when these arise and you can play whichever you feel most comfortable with.

    Lets go Giants!  Finish this up!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2010 - 10:37 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by SFJustice:

    Thanx for the hard work

    SF today, if not , Lincecome tom.

     

    Pay us now - or Pay us later

    nice work Rizz

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFJustice:

    Thanx for the hard work

    SF today, if not , Lincecome tom.

     

    Pay us now - or Pay us later

    nice work Rizz

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2010 - 11:07 PM ET #87

    Good call SFJ .  Doubled down on this series and hit LAD last night, SF tonight.
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    Good call SFJ .  Doubled down on this series and hit LAD last night, SF tonight.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 12:38 AM ET #88

    Series Record = 5-0-0

    Results for 4/17:

    Series #4 (Game 1 wins)  TB @ bos -130

    Series #5 (Game 2 wins)  SF @ lad -145

    OR

    Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

      Hopefully everyone jumped on these.  Board is clear until 4/20.  Have some potential sweeps tomorrow! 

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    Game 1 wins= 3

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 0 

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    Series Record = 5-0-0

    Results for 4/17:

    Series #4 (Game 1 wins)  TB @ bos -130

    Series #5 (Game 2 wins)  SF @ lad -145

    OR

    Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

      Hopefully everyone jumped on these.  Board is clear until 4/20.  Have some potential sweeps tomorrow! 

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    Game 1 wins= 3

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 0 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 1:34 AM ET #89

    series to watch tomorrow, we have a lot of possible sweeps so look for plays...

    mil / wash

    arz / SD

    tex / NYY

    CWS / Clev

    LAA / Tor

    TB / Bost

    KC / Minn

    Balt / Oak

    Det / Sea
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    series to watch tomorrow, we have a lot of possible sweeps so look for plays...

    mil / wash

    arz / SD

    tex / NYY

    CWS / Clev

    LAA / Tor

    TB / Bost

    KC / Minn

    Balt / Oak

    Det / Sea
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 2:08 AM ET #90

    Backtested for 2006:

    286-12

    Seems pretty consistent.  I don't think I am going to go back any further.  Lets hope we stay stay on par with this or can do better!

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    Backtested for 2006:

    286-12

    Seems pretty consistent.  I don't think I am going to go back any further.  Lets hope we stay stay on par with this or can do better!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 2:10 AM ET #91

    We are going to have a lot of plays on monday.  Thanks for helping keep track of the sweeps milkman

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    We are going to have a lot of plays on monday.  Thanks for helping keep track of the sweeps milkman

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 8:55 AM ET #92

    I went back and figured it out with juice and also with picking dogs and if you were betting $100 per gm and doubling up after a loss you would be up $450 so far...That Det juice killed it but thats still great...you should try to keep a running total, if not ill try to for ya
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    I went back and figured it out with juice and also with picking dogs and if you were betting $100 per gm and doubling up after a loss you would be up $450 so far...That Det juice killed it but thats still great...you should try to keep a running total, if not ill try to for ya
     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 1:33 PM ET #93

    Thanks MM
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 5:57 PM ET #94

    CHW unbelievably swept by CLE today!  Will have a couple more plays there. 

    chw @ NYY 4/30 --fading CWS on road

    min @ CLE 4/30

    MIL avoids the sweep which is good because they were a play in my other system.

    PIT sweeps CIN

    cin @ HOU 4/27 fading cin on the road

    mil @ PIT  4/20

    NYY sweep Tex

    tex @ BOS  4/20 -- fading tex on the road

    cws @ NYY  4/30

     

    LAA sweep TOR

    KC @ tor 4/19 -- fading tor at home

    LAA @ det  4/30

     

    A lot of plays coming down today.

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    CHW unbelievably swept by CLE today!  Will have a couple more plays there. 

    chw @ NYY 4/30 --fading CWS on road

    min @ CLE 4/30

    MIL avoids the sweep which is good because they were a play in my other system.

    PIT sweeps CIN

    cin @ HOU 4/27 fading cin on the road

    mil @ PIT  4/20

    NYY sweep Tex

    tex @ BOS  4/20 -- fading tex on the road

    cws @ NYY  4/30

     

    LAA sweep TOR

    KC @ tor 4/19 -- fading tor at home

    LAA @ det  4/30

     

    A lot of plays coming down today.

     
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    Thanks for the solid work, I will certainly be following the system.  For the following series, do you play every game or until you win one (and then you are done with series?)?  The stats that you quote from last season, does this mean that 16 series the team was swept the following series (I get the same basis - eg home then next home series)?  I was having a little trouble understanding the historical trends.
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    Thanks for the solid work, I will certainly be following the system.  For the following series, do you play every game or until you win one (and then you are done with series?)?  The stats that you quote from last season, does this mean that 16 series the team was swept the following series (I get the same basis - eg home then next home series)?  I was having a little trouble understanding the historical trends.
     
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    Another one, SD sweeps Ariz

    sf @ SD 4/19

    ariz @ COL 4/26 --fading ariz on the road

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    Another one, SD sweeps Ariz

    sf @ SD 4/19

    ariz @ COL 4/26 --fading ariz on the road

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by deken00:

    Thanks for the solid work, I will certainly be following the system.  For the following series, do you play every game or until you win one (and then you are done with series?)?  The stats that you quote from last season, does this mean that 16 series the team was swept the following series (I get the same basis - eg home then next home series)?  I was having a little trouble understanding the historical trends.

    I am not sure where you saw 16 at, you may have been looking at a different year, but the record for 2009 would have been 271-10.  I think the highest losses were in 2007 which would have been 15.  Yes, we are basically playing these series to get up one unit, so if we get our win we move on to the next series. You can play the chase however you would like but I personally am using labouchere with three lines.  Let me know if you have any other qustions

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    Quote Originally Posted by deken00:

    Thanks for the solid work, I will certainly be following the system.  For the following series, do you play every game or until you win one (and then you are done with series?)?  The stats that you quote from last season, does this mean that 16 series the team was swept the following series (I get the same basis - eg home then next home series)?  I was having a little trouble understanding the historical trends.

    I am not sure where you saw 16 at, you may have been looking at a different year, but the record for 2009 would have been 271-10.  I think the highest losses were in 2007 which would have been 15.  Yes, we are basically playing these series to get up one unit, so if we get our win we move on to the next series. You can play the chase however you would like but I personally am using labouchere with three lines.  Let me know if you have any other qustions

     
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    Series Record = 5-0-0

    Plays for 4/19:

    Series #6 (game 1) 7:07        KC +112 @ tor

    Series #7 (game 1)  10:05     sf @ SD +124

     

    ***Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    ***Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    tex @ BOS  (4/20) -- fading tex on the road

    mil @ PIT  (4/20)

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    ariz @ COL (4/26) --fading ariz on the road

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    cin @ HOU (4/27) fading cin on the road

    LAA @ det  (4/30)

    cws @ NYY  (4/30)

    chw @ NYY (4/30) --fading CWS on road

    min @ CLE (4/30)

    Game 1 wins= 3

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 0 

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    Series Record = 5-0-0

    Plays for 4/19:

    Series #6 (game 1) 7:07        KC +112 @ tor

    Series #7 (game 1)  10:05     sf @ SD +124

     

    ***Series #4 alt. (Game 1) 4/20 TB @ cws

    ***Series #5 alt  (Game 1) 4/19 SF @ sd

     

    Pending:

    PHI @ atl (4/20)

    FLA @ hou (4/20)--  fading HOU at home

    cle @ MIN (4/20)---  fading CLE on road

    tex @ BOS  (4/20) -- fading tex on the road

    mil @ PIT  (4/20)

    TOR @ tb (4/23)

    ariz @ COL (4/26) --fading ariz on the road

    NYY @ bal (4/27)-- fading BAL at home

    cin @ HOU (4/27) fading cin on the road

    LAA @ det  (4/30)

    cws @ NYY  (4/30)

    chw @ NYY (4/30) --fading CWS on road

    min @ CLE (4/30)

    Game 1 wins= 3

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 0 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2010 - 9:15 PM ET #99

    Obviously series #7 conflicts with one of our alternate series.  I think everyone got the win with SF vs LAD but for those that were waiting you will have to decide which way you want to go.

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    Obviously series #7 conflicts with one of our alternate series.  I think everyone got the win with SF vs LAD but for those that were waiting you will have to decide which way you want to go.

     
     
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    rizz, who is that in ur default pic?
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