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    thebird40
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 6:14 PM ET #301

    I was just voicing my opinion and agreeing with what Kreatture had to say in post #283 can we just get back to the original thread of the Modified JM hockey system?
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    I was just voicing my opinion and agreeing with what Kreatture had to say in post #283 can we just get back to the original thread of the Modified JM hockey system?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 7:15 PM ET #302

    I understand guys
    Between here and SN's thread and others too - plenty of cats put the cart before the horse

    Ignorance is bliss following a thread for quick and easy money
    My suggestion is just don't put the time in towards the simpletons
    Arguing is a 2 way street and if we don't reply back then we invest no emotions with those youngbucks out there clogging up the thread

    Like I always say
     If a moron speaks and no one hears him - then does he speak??????????
    My opinion don't give in because of wack jobs not understanding what's up
    Nothing wrong in being new or following the rules and asking questions politely with common sense after reading through the thread

    Just don't pay any attention to the nitwits assing things up
    What can they do?????
    Talk more garbage and hate on us or clog up the thread even more?
    As long as the those who know how to put one foot in front of the other are still here - we'll all have a fun time carrying the water for everyone else
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    I understand guys
    Between here and SN's thread and others too - plenty of cats put the cart before the horse

    Ignorance is bliss following a thread for quick and easy money
    My suggestion is just don't put the time in towards the simpletons
    Arguing is a 2 way street and if we don't reply back then we invest no emotions with those youngbucks out there clogging up the thread

    Like I always say
     If a moron speaks and no one hears him - then does he speak??????????
    My opinion don't give in because of wack jobs not understanding what's up
    Nothing wrong in being new or following the rules and asking questions politely with common sense after reading through the thread

    Just don't pay any attention to the nitwits assing things up
    What can they do?????
    Talk more garbage and hate on us or clog up the thread even more?
    As long as the those who know how to put one foot in front of the other are still here - we'll all have a fun time carrying the water for everyone else
     
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 10:45 PM ET #303

    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:

    I understand guys
    Between here and SN's thread and others too - plenty of cats put the cart before the horse

    Ignorance is bliss following a thread for quick and easy money
    My suggestion is just don't put the time in towards the simpletons
    Arguing is a 2 way street and if we don't reply back then we invest no emotions with those youngbucks out there clogging up the thread

    Like I always say
     If a moron speaks and no one hears him - then does he speak??????????
    My opinion don't give in because of wack jobs not understanding what's up
    Nothing wrong in being new or following the rules and asking questions politely with common sense after reading through the thread

    Just don't pay any attention to the nitwits assing things up
    What can they do?????
    Talk more garbage and hate on us or clog up the thread even more?
    As long as the those who know how to put one foot in front of the other are still here - we'll all have a fun time carrying the water for everyone else

    QUI???  English please.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontanaMax:

    I understand guys
    Between here and SN's thread and others too - plenty of cats put the cart before the horse

    Ignorance is bliss following a thread for quick and easy money
    My suggestion is just don't put the time in towards the simpletons
    Arguing is a 2 way street and if we don't reply back then we invest no emotions with those youngbucks out there clogging up the thread

    Like I always say
     If a moron speaks and no one hears him - then does he speak??????????
    My opinion don't give in because of wack jobs not understanding what's up
    Nothing wrong in being new or following the rules and asking questions politely with common sense after reading through the thread

    Just don't pay any attention to the nitwits assing things up
    What can they do?????
    Talk more garbage and hate on us or clog up the thread even more?
    As long as the those who know how to put one foot in front of the other are still here - we'll all have a fun time carrying the water for everyone else

    QUI???  English please.....

     
    slwholesales
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 11:21 PM ET #304

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Thebird, IF YOU read carefully, you will see that this thread is the MODIFIED morrison NHL system, so, no it does not mean to chase all 3 gaems. The MODIFIED system has you only playing the 1st tow games of a 3 game road trip.
     
    SLW, this applies to you too. There are not the filters with the MODIFED system that this whole thread was started on.
     
    Please feel free to start your own thread called "Standard JM NHL".
     
    This is a modified version AS THE TITLE CLEARLY SAYS.


    Actually there are filters. If you read through the thread there are 4 filters. I can't remember who posted them but I have them right here for you:

    It is very simple. We bet NHL road teams when they go on road trips of at least 3 games. When the team is the favorite, bet moneyline. When the team is the underdog, bet puckline +1.5.

    Make A bet, if it loses bet B so you still profit, if it loses bet C so you still profit on the entire series.

    Using these filters should work for 09-10:
    1. don't play first series of season or last for any team
    2. don't play second series of 3 on any road trip
    3. play +1.5 whenever available
    4. eliminate teams with losing road records once at least 25 games have been played. (At start of year, could use road records from last season but that is iffy).
    possible 5. do not play against top 2-3 RPI teams when they are at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Thebird, IF YOU read carefully, you will see that this thread is the MODIFIED morrison NHL system, so, no it does not mean to chase all 3 gaems. The MODIFIED system has you only playing the 1st tow games of a 3 game road trip.
     
    SLW, this applies to you too. There are not the filters with the MODIFED system that this whole thread was started on.
     
    Please feel free to start your own thread called "Standard JM NHL".
     
    This is a modified version AS THE TITLE CLEARLY SAYS.


    Actually there are filters. If you read through the thread there are 4 filters. I can't remember who posted them but I have them right here for you:

    It is very simple. We bet NHL road teams when they go on road trips of at least 3 games. When the team is the favorite, bet moneyline. When the team is the underdog, bet puckline +1.5.

    Make A bet, if it loses bet B so you still profit, if it loses bet C so you still profit on the entire series.

    Using these filters should work for 09-10:
    1. don't play first series of season or last for any team
    2. don't play second series of 3 on any road trip
    3. play +1.5 whenever available
    4. eliminate teams with losing road records once at least 25 games have been played. (At start of year, could use road records from last season but that is iffy).
    possible 5. do not play against top 2-3 RPI teams when they are at home

     
    slwholesales
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    Posted: Oct. 19, 2009 - 11:24 PM ET #305

    Or am I looking at the wrong system? After reading it again.... this doesn't seem right at all!

    I thought I had this figured out... now I'm all confused!!!!!!!!
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    Or am I looking at the wrong system? After reading it again.... this doesn't seem right at all!

    I thought I had this figured out... now I'm all confused!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 1:02 AM ET #306

    Just void wagers on the teams with the five worst road records starting in December (a stat that can change from day to day) and void bets on the deadline "sellers" after the trade deadline and you should be good.  In my backtesting those were probably the two most important filters you can improve the system with while keeping the majority of the system plays in tact.  The +1.5 when available and don't play the 2nd three game set of 6+ game road trips are just a given.
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    Just void wagers on the teams with the five worst road records starting in December (a stat that can change from day to day) and void bets on the deadline "sellers" after the trade deadline and you should be good.  In my backtesting those were probably the two most important filters you can improve the system with while keeping the majority of the system plays in tact.  The +1.5 when available and don't play the 2nd three game set of 6+ game road trips are just a given.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:01 AM ET #307

    Kiss - so I'm not going crazy? There ARE FILTERS in the Modified JM System?

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    Kiss - so I'm not going crazy? There ARE FILTERS in the Modified JM System?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:28 AM ET #308

    Quote Originally Posted by slwholesales:

    Kiss - so I'm not going crazy? There ARE FILTERS in the Modified JM System?



    Yes.. there are filters. Anyone serious in playing this modified version should be reading this thread as well, which is linked in post #2 of this thread from KongKiller. The unfiltered System had 27 losses last season. With the 4 filters, there was only 1 (145-1).

    SBR Forum Modified JM System

    Read the entire thread and all the questions should be cleared up. If not, feel free to PM me.. but there really shouldn't be any questions.

    A downloadable Excel sheet is available in post #32 on that thread, which lists the season schedule for 3+ road trips and 3+ home stands. I am finding it invaluable in my NHL season so far.. it has also been very helpful for me in researching and keeping track of some other things I am working on for this season.


    I firmly believe this is a good System to play, with the filters. I'm sure by season's end, JM will have adopted all these filters for his System.

    Big Props to KongKiller for sharing this once again 
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    Quote Originally Posted by slwholesales:

    Kiss - so I'm not going crazy? There ARE FILTERS in the Modified JM System?



    Yes.. there are filters. Anyone serious in playing this modified version should be reading this thread as well, which is linked in post #2 of this thread from KongKiller. The unfiltered System had 27 losses last season. With the 4 filters, there was only 1 (145-1).

    SBR Forum Modified JM System

    Read the entire thread and all the questions should be cleared up. If not, feel free to PM me.. but there really shouldn't be any questions.

    A downloadable Excel sheet is available in post #32 on that thread, which lists the season schedule for 3+ road trips and 3+ home stands. I am finding it invaluable in my NHL season so far.. it has also been very helpful for me in researching and keeping track of some other things I am working on for this season.


    I firmly believe this is a good System to play, with the filters. I'm sure by season's end, JM will have adopted all these filters for his System.

    Big Props to KongKiller for sharing this once again 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 12:56 PM ET #309

    Just to clarify...I added the "void bets on the deadline sellers after the trade deadline" on top of the already listed filters myself.  I would recommend it to everyone.   Even though this would not of improved the system last season, I seriously doubt that will continue.  I know I for wont feel comfortable betting on a bunch of  teams filled with AHL'ers and missing their value players over the last month and a half of the season.



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    Just to clarify...I added the "void bets on the deadline sellers after the trade deadline" on top of the already listed filters myself.  I would recommend it to everyone.   Even though this would not of improved the system last season, I seriously doubt that will continue.  I know I for wont feel comfortable betting on a bunch of  teams filled with AHL'ers and missing their value players over the last month and a half of the season.



     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 1:04 PM ET #310

    Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    QUI???  English please.....

    He Hector,

    Can you post the plays you are going with the day of the game? Like today is Kings? Who is the opposite you would be taking? Please post. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    QUI???  English please.....

    He Hector,

    Can you post the plays you are going with the day of the game? Like today is Kings? Who is the opposite you would be taking? Please post. Thanks.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 2:11 PM ET #311

    Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:



    Yes.. there are filters. Anyone serious in playing this modified version should be reading this thread as well, which is linked in post #2 of this thread from KongKiller. The unfiltered System had 27 losses last season. With the 4 filters, there was only 1 (145-1).

    SBR Forum Modified JM System

    Read the entire thread and all the questions should be cleared up. If not, feel free to PM me.. but there really shouldn't be any questions.

    A downloadable Excel sheet is available in post #32 on that thread, which lists the season schedule for 3+ road trips and 3+ home stands. I am finding it invaluable in my NHL season so far.. it has also been very helpful for me in researching and keeping track of some other things I am working on for this season.


    I firmly believe this is a good System to play, with the filters. I'm sure by season's end, JM will have adopted all these filters for his System.

    Big Props to KongKiller for sharing this once again 


    I was called out by someone telling me there was no filters, but I know I've followed this thread from the beginning and I knew there were filters.

    Just don't like some idiot calling me out when I know what I read. So I wanted to clarify to make sure I wasn't losing it!

    Appreciate it
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    Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:



    Yes.. there are filters. Anyone serious in playing this modified version should be reading this thread as well, which is linked in post #2 of this thread from KongKiller. The unfiltered System had 27 losses last season. With the 4 filters, there was only 1 (145-1).

    SBR Forum Modified JM System

    Read the entire thread and all the questions should be cleared up. If not, feel free to PM me.. but there really shouldn't be any questions.

    A downloadable Excel sheet is available in post #32 on that thread, which lists the season schedule for 3+ road trips and 3+ home stands. I am finding it invaluable in my NHL season so far.. it has also been very helpful for me in researching and keeping track of some other things I am working on for this season.


    I firmly believe this is a good System to play, with the filters. I'm sure by season's end, JM will have adopted all these filters for his System.

    Big Props to KongKiller for sharing this once again 


    I was called out by someone telling me there was no filters, but I know I've followed this thread from the beginning and I knew there were filters.

    Just don't like some idiot calling me out when I know what I read. So I wanted to clarify to make sure I wasn't losing it!

    Appreciate it
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 7:38 PM ET #312

    SLW, I did not call you an idiot. Relax.

    I was pointing out that this thread is not the JM NHL thread which would have filters, particularly the conference filter. 

    And If you want to be really technical, Kong (the originator of this thread and modified system) said at the beginning he was gonna roll with no filters. So on that basis, there are no filters to KONG's MODIFIED NHL system.

    Somebody else came in with the filter suggestions, i dont recall who, and added some great filters. Got it from the SBR website, and PSIC.

    If it was Kong, then I stand corrected, but I don't think so. Would put 100 on it at +120.

    So settle down.

    I am playing Columbus in an A game tonight (chasing the away team going on a 3 game series, but only chasing to B game if needed).

    GL everyone.

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    SLW, I did not call you an idiot. Relax.

    I was pointing out that this thread is not the JM NHL thread which would have filters, particularly the conference filter. 

    And If you want to be really technical, Kong (the originator of this thread and modified system) said at the beginning he was gonna roll with no filters. So on that basis, there are no filters to KONG's MODIFIED NHL system.

    Somebody else came in with the filter suggestions, i dont recall who, and added some great filters. Got it from the SBR website, and PSIC.

    If it was Kong, then I stand corrected, but I don't think so. Would put 100 on it at +120.

    So settle down.

    I am playing Columbus in an A game tonight (chasing the away team going on a 3 game series, but only chasing to B game if needed).

    GL everyone.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 7:59 PM ET #313

    This is how I'm playing it

    Still waiting on Car gm2

    So far I am at 12-1 +7.74 units
    (with -11.88 units pending from Car gm 1 loss) Don't want to mislead here
    I am dividing that by 2 and adding half of that to the 2 units I am trying to win on the Cbj series
    Getting steep here but my units are very small for now so its cool on my end
    Remember to utilize wise MM here until the system is fully cooking

    Set # 17
    Gm 1
    Cbj +1.5 / -225 @ Cal 9:35 pm
    To win 7.84 units

    I am waiting on Car gm2 to win the other 10.68 units


    Hopefully these 2 clear and then I can go back and focus on winning 2 units for the next 2 sets
    Then back to 1 unit profit goal after this drama

    One thing that can throw a wrench into this system is not winning a high % of gm 1's that can have us chase units prolonging the process

    At least its a 2 game chase so it will just take longer to get the money back if this keeps up but from what was back tested for about 4 years or so the gm 1 of each series should win about 88 - 91 % of the time without filters. Then Gm 2 about 45 % or so of the time.
    Much props to Kong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Not a big fan of chases with this much juice but following strict MM can keep us safe from the boogie man


    GL.................
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    This is how I'm playing it

    Still waiting on Car gm2

    So far I am at 12-1 +7.74 units
    (with -11.88 units pending from Car gm 1 loss) Don't want to mislead here
    I am dividing that by 2 and adding half of that to the 2 units I am trying to win on the Cbj series
    Getting steep here but my units are very small for now so its cool on my end
    Remember to utilize wise MM here until the system is fully cooking

    Set # 17
    Gm 1
    Cbj +1.5 / -225 @ Cal 9:35 pm
    To win 7.84 units

    I am waiting on Car gm2 to win the other 10.68 units


    Hopefully these 2 clear and then I can go back and focus on winning 2 units for the next 2 sets
    Then back to 1 unit profit goal after this drama

    One thing that can throw a wrench into this system is not winning a high % of gm 1's that can have us chase units prolonging the process

    At least its a 2 game chase so it will just take longer to get the money back if this keeps up but from what was back tested for about 4 years or so the gm 1 of each series should win about 88 - 91 % of the time without filters. Then Gm 2 about 45 % or so of the time.
    Much props to Kong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Not a big fan of chases with this much juice but following strict MM can keep us safe from the boogie man


    GL.................
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 8:58 PM ET #314

    max, you got it down pat bro. stick to your plan.

    go clbs.

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    max, you got it down pat bro. stick to your plan.

    go clbs.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 9:03 PM ET #315

    Max, something you might want to look at. I think the A and B combined make the 88-91%, hence the playing of A's and B's only.

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    Max, something you might want to look at. I think the A and B combined make the 88-91%, hence the playing of A's and B's only.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 9:09 PM ET #316

    Gotcha..........
    May have stated it wrong
    But on the right track I hope, thanks

    Oh yeah of course Nas had to win the set at +1.5 over the weekend but I didn't want to risk anything on them though
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    Gotcha..........
    May have stated it wrong
    But on the right track I hope, thanks

    Oh yeah of course Nas had to win the set at +1.5 over the weekend but I didn't want to risk anything on them though
     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 9:19 PM ET #317

    Hello Max

    I have been reading this for the last few weeks and trying to get on the right track.  So we are running the JM system with filters(3 road games)? Is tonights game a filter game of JM

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    Hello Max

    I have been reading this for the last few weeks and trying to get on the right track.  So we are running the JM system with filters(3 road games)? Is tonights game a filter game of JM

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2009 - 10:44 PM ET #318

    With the MON win I'm 35-0 playing both 3 game home chases and 3 game road chases.  There were 2 c bets which both won, if you only play the A and B games you wold have 2 lossses now.  Those not playing the teams first series are missing out on alot of $$$$$$$$

    Need CLB PL tonight to make it 36-0, looks good now it's 3-3

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    With the MON win I'm 35-0 playing both 3 game home chases and 3 game road chases.  There were 2 c bets which both won, if you only play the A and B games you wold have 2 lossses now.  Those not playing the teams first series are missing out on alot of $$$$$$$$

    Need CLB PL tonight to make it 36-0, looks good now it's 3-3

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 5:32 AM ET #319

    Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    Need CLB PL tonight to make it 36-0, looks good now it's 3-3

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    Need CLB PL tonight to make it 36-0, looks good now it's 3-3

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 7:31 AM ET #320

    Question...if my game 1 line looks like this:
    10-10-28-45 and I have two game 1 bets tonight, do I bet to win 55 on both or 55 on one game and 38 on the other? And if I were to win both would I cross out the entire line or just the 10 and 45?  Thanks in advance for your help.

    Let's keep our fingers crossed for a sweep tonight. I started the system on Saturday and am currently -6+ units.
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    Question...if my game 1 line looks like this:
    10-10-28-45 and I have two game 1 bets tonight, do I bet to win 55 on both or 55 on one game and 38 on the other? And if I were to win both would I cross out the entire line or just the 10 and 45?  Thanks in advance for your help.

    Let's keep our fingers crossed for a sweep tonight. I started the system on Saturday and am currently -6+ units.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 7:34 AM ET #321

    take all 4 of your numbers and add them up. then divide it by two and play both games at that price. so 93/2= 46.5
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    take all 4 of your numbers and add them up. then divide it by two and play both games at that price. so 93/2= 46.5
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 7:42 AM ET #322

    Quote Originally Posted by GMSI:

     

    Ha, jinxed myself, oh well it goes to game 2 then.

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    Ha, jinxed myself, oh well it goes to game 2 then.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 9:58 AM ET #323

    I am gonna take my Car A loss and CLBS A loss and spread them into tonights games:

    Buffalo -120 @ Fla (finally lower juice!)

    Carolina -140 @ NYI (I hate this game, isles are so due for a win. at least the juice is low)

    Dal @ Ana

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    I am gonna take my Car A loss and CLBS A loss and spread them into tonights games:

    Buffalo -120 @ Fla (finally lower juice!)

    Carolina -140 @ NYI (I hate this game, isles are so due for a win. at least the juice is low)

    Dal @ Ana

     
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    Hectar, nice of you to get those C wins. Sucks for us to miss out on them. Howver, it is early and a long season. The time will come where you will lose one of those. Lab or Mart, they will hurt. In the end we'll see which route was best.

    I'd rather miss that C win, than fret those games, and/or lose them.

    Hope you dodge that bullet all year .

    GL

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    Hectar, nice of you to get those C wins. Sucks for us to miss out on them. Howver, it is early and a long season. The time will come where you will lose one of those. Lab or Mart, they will hurt. In the end we'll see which route was best.

    I'd rather miss that C win, than fret those games, and/or lose them.

    Hope you dodge that bullet all year .

    GL

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 10:06 AM ET #325

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    I am gonna take my Car A loss and CLBS A loss and spread them into tonights games:

    Buffalo -120 @ Fla (finally lower juice!)

    Carolina -140 @ NYI (I hate this game, isles are so due for a win. at least the juice is low)

    Dal @ Ana



    You seem to be the most informed person in the thread so I'll ask you.  Yesterday was my first play in the system.  Obviously lost with Columbus.  I'm just betting one unit at $10 a pop til I get the hang of it.  I'm a little confused as to where my next couple of bets should go.

    Yesterday's line started like this...

    5-5-5-5

    I bet Columbus +1.5 at -230.  So correct me if I'm wrong here but I would now have two lines of...

    5-5-5-12
    5-5-5-12

    Is this right?  I'm wagering to win 17 the next time Columbus plays?  Or can I just forget about Columbus at this point and make both of those lines A games for tonight since there are 4 options from what I can see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    I am gonna take my Car A loss and CLBS A loss and spread them into tonights games:

    Buffalo -120 @ Fla (finally lower juice!)

    Carolina -140 @ NYI (I hate this game, isles are so due for a win. at least the juice is low)

    Dal @ Ana



    You seem to be the most informed person in the thread so I'll ask you.  Yesterday was my first play in the system.  Obviously lost with Columbus.  I'm just betting one unit at $10 a pop til I get the hang of it.  I'm a little confused as to where my next couple of bets should go.

    Yesterday's line started like this...

    5-5-5-5

    I bet Columbus +1.5 at -230.  So correct me if I'm wrong here but I would now have two lines of...

    5-5-5-12
    5-5-5-12

    Is this right?  I'm wagering to win 17 the next time Columbus plays?  Or can I just forget about Columbus at this point and make both of those lines A games for tonight since there are 4 options from what I can see?
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