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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 10:47 AM ET #326

    I don't like Dallas chances tonight. The juice is relly high, Modano and Lehtinen are on IR, Richards is questionable. I really see this one going the other way tonight. What do you guys think? I know its a system so you follow it or not, but do any of you guys have second guesses too?

    And with A bets not clicking at the moment my bankroll is suffering. Carolina and Chichago really blew it the other night and with Buffalo and Dallas on A bets today its really be or not to be for me tonight.

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    I don't like Dallas chances tonight. The juice is relly high, Modano and Lehtinen are on IR, Richards is questionable. I really see this one going the other way tonight. What do you guys think? I know its a system so you follow it or not, but do any of you guys have second guesses too?

    And with A bets not clicking at the moment my bankroll is suffering. Carolina and Chichago really blew it the other night and with Buffalo and Dallas on A bets today its really be or not to be for me tonight.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 11:20 AM ET #327

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Hectar, nice of you to get those C wins. Sucks for us to miss out on them. Howver, it is early and a long season. The time will come where you will lose one of those. Lab or Mart, they will hurt. In the end we'll see which route was best.

    I'd rather miss that C win, than fret those games, and/or lose them.

    Hope you dodge that bullet all year .

    GL

    I don't expect to have a perfect season, although here's to wishing for one.   I also don't chase to win the full unit on the B and C games.  My version of labouchere.  So less stress on the C games.  When I do lose a C bet I will just split it up over the next 3 series and go from there, sort of like you would do if you lost both the A and B bets.  It is a long season so even with a few losses, at some point 3/4 thru the season I will be all caught up on any losses and then tread lightly till the seasons end.  Thats why I was not afraid to play the first series, I know it will eventually work itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Hectar, nice of you to get those C wins. Sucks for us to miss out on them. Howver, it is early and a long season. The time will come where you will lose one of those. Lab or Mart, they will hurt. In the end we'll see which route was best.

    I'd rather miss that C win, than fret those games, and/or lose them.

    Hope you dodge that bullet all year .

    GL

    I don't expect to have a perfect season, although here's to wishing for one.   I also don't chase to win the full unit on the B and C games.  My version of labouchere.  So less stress on the C games.  When I do lose a C bet I will just split it up over the next 3 series and go from there, sort of like you would do if you lost both the A and B bets.  It is a long season so even with a few losses, at some point 3/4 thru the season I will be all caught up on any losses and then tread lightly till the seasons end.  Thats why I was not afraid to play the first series, I know it will eventually work itself out.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 11:40 AM ET #328

    Twisted, thanks for the complement, but I am always learning too.

    Tonight's A games are gonna try and make back some of the loss from your columbus A loss, b/c you split that loss between your A and B lines

    B/c there are 2 A's tonight, you can divide all the numbers of your A line by 2 (27/2 = 13.50, call it 14) and make 2 bets to win 14 each.

    Or you could just bet the 2 A games to win 17 each as your current A line now stands.

    The B line will come into play when columbus plays again (unless you have an A loss tonight and one of those teams happen to play again before columbus). That B line will hopefully make up the other half of your columbus A loss.

    Keep in mind, if one or more of your A's lose tonight, you will have more than just the columbus A loss on your next B line, b/c you will be adding 1/2 of whatever loses tonight to it.

    Hope this makes sense. Dallas @ anaheim is also a play tonight, although looks shaky with 2 key players out. Wish I knew that before placing my bet. My bad on that one. Did not research it.

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    Twisted, thanks for the complement, but I am always learning too.

    Tonight's A games are gonna try and make back some of the loss from your columbus A loss, b/c you split that loss between your A and B lines

    B/c there are 2 A's tonight, you can divide all the numbers of your A line by 2 (27/2 = 13.50, call it 14) and make 2 bets to win 14 each.

    Or you could just bet the 2 A games to win 17 each as your current A line now stands.

    The B line will come into play when columbus plays again (unless you have an A loss tonight and one of those teams happen to play again before columbus). That B line will hopefully make up the other half of your columbus A loss.

    Keep in mind, if one or more of your A's lose tonight, you will have more than just the columbus A loss on your next B line, b/c you will be adding 1/2 of whatever loses tonight to it.

    Hope this makes sense. Dallas @ anaheim is also a play tonight, although looks shaky with 2 key players out. Wish I knew that before placing my bet. My bad on that one. Did not research it.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 11:50 AM ET #329

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Twisted, thanks for the complement, but I am always learning too.

    Tonight's A games are gonna try and make back some of the loss from your columbus A loss, b/c you split that loss between your A and B lines

    B/c there are 2 A's tonight, you can divide all the numbers of your A line by 2 (27/2 = 13.50, call it 14) and make 2 bets to win 14 each.

    Or you could just bet the 2 A games to win 17 each as your current A line now stands.

    The B line will come into play when columbus plays again (unless you have an A loss tonight and one of those teams happen to play again before columbus). That B line will hopefully make up the other half of your columbus A loss.

    Keep in mind, if one or more of your A's lose tonight, you will have more than just the columbus A loss on your next B line, b/c you will be adding 1/2 of whatever loses tonight to it.

    Hope this makes sense. Dallas @ anaheim is also a play tonight, although looks shaky with 2 key players out. Wish I knew that before placing my bet. My bad on that one. Did not research it.



    Thanks Nole,

    That was extremely helpful. 

    I'm gonna take the suggestion of dividing all the numbers in the A line and make the two bets to win $14 each.  Columbus plays tomorrow night so I'll work on the second line tomorrow.  Of course, with my luck my two A bets will both lose and it'll get extremely messy. 

    I wouldn't be afraid to play Dallas.  In a way you're veering off of what the system is supposed to do for you.  When you start bringing handicapping into it I think you're doing a lot of work that isn't necessary.  When we went through and back tracked all this stuff there were probably numerous games in there that were similar to how Dallas is tonight.  And we are getting a goal and a half.  That line is -230 for a reason.  I think we have to respect that line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Twisted, thanks for the complement, but I am always learning too.

    Tonight's A games are gonna try and make back some of the loss from your columbus A loss, b/c you split that loss between your A and B lines

    B/c there are 2 A's tonight, you can divide all the numbers of your A line by 2 (27/2 = 13.50, call it 14) and make 2 bets to win 14 each.

    Or you could just bet the 2 A games to win 17 each as your current A line now stands.

    The B line will come into play when columbus plays again (unless you have an A loss tonight and one of those teams happen to play again before columbus). That B line will hopefully make up the other half of your columbus A loss.

    Keep in mind, if one or more of your A's lose tonight, you will have more than just the columbus A loss on your next B line, b/c you will be adding 1/2 of whatever loses tonight to it.

    Hope this makes sense. Dallas @ anaheim is also a play tonight, although looks shaky with 2 key players out. Wish I knew that before placing my bet. My bad on that one. Did not research it.



    Thanks Nole,

    That was extremely helpful. 

    I'm gonna take the suggestion of dividing all the numbers in the A line and make the two bets to win $14 each.  Columbus plays tomorrow night so I'll work on the second line tomorrow.  Of course, with my luck my two A bets will both lose and it'll get extremely messy. 

    I wouldn't be afraid to play Dallas.  In a way you're veering off of what the system is supposed to do for you.  When you start bringing handicapping into it I think you're doing a lot of work that isn't necessary.  When we went through and back tracked all this stuff there were probably numerous games in there that were similar to how Dallas is tonight.  And we are getting a goal and a half.  That line is -230 for a reason.  I think we have to respect that line.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 12:00 PM ET #330

    Dood points on Dallas and handicapping, BUT, there were 2 times this early NHL year that my gut told be to pass, and both were correct.

    Either way, my units for NHL are small (80% smaller than what my NBA will be or my MLB was), so no major disaster if all lose tonight. Although I would like to see 3 winners tonight. The %'s are in our favor after the 2 A losses in a row.

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    Dood points on Dallas and handicapping, BUT, there were 2 times this early NHL year that my gut told be to pass, and both were correct.

    Either way, my units for NHL are small (80% smaller than what my NBA will be or my MLB was), so no major disaster if all lose tonight. Although I would like to see 3 winners tonight. The %'s are in our favor after the 2 A losses in a row.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 12:03 PM ET #331

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Dood points on Dallas and handicapping, BUT, there were 2 times this early NHL year that my gut told be to pass, and both were correct.

    Either way, my units for NHL are small (80% smaller than what my NBA will be or my MLB was), so no major disaster if all lose tonight. Although I would like to see 3 winners tonight. The %'s are in our favor after the 2 A losses in a row.



    So you're saying that the law of averages applies when we've had two A losses in a row.

    But it doesn't apply when you go with your gut on the handicapping aspect?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Dood points on Dallas and handicapping, BUT, there were 2 times this early NHL year that my gut told be to pass, and both were correct.

    Either way, my units for NHL are small (80% smaller than what my NBA will be or my MLB was), so no major disaster if all lose tonight. Although I would like to see 3 winners tonight. The %'s are in our favor after the 2 A losses in a row.



    So you're saying that the law of averages applies when we've had two A losses in a row.

    But it doesn't apply when you go with your gut on the handicapping aspect?


     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 12:13 PM ET #332

    CLB got smoked!
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 12:29 PM ET #333

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Dood points on Dallas and handicapping, BUT, there were 2 times this early NHL year that my gut told be to pass, and both were correct.

    Either way, my units for NHL are small (80% smaller than what my NBA will be or my MLB was), so no major disaster if all lose tonight. Although I would like to see 3 winners tonight. The %'s are in our favor after the 2 A losses in a row.

    Well not really as the previous games have no bearing on tonights outcome, it's still 50/50.  Just like if Player losses 2 times in a row in baccarat, the next deal is still always 50/50

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Dood points on Dallas and handicapping, BUT, there were 2 times this early NHL year that my gut told be to pass, and both were correct.

    Either way, my units for NHL are small (80% smaller than what my NBA will be or my MLB was), so no major disaster if all lose tonight. Although I would like to see 3 winners tonight. The %'s are in our favor after the 2 A losses in a row.

    Well not really as the previous games have no bearing on tonights outcome, it's still 50/50.  Just like if Player losses 2 times in a row in baccarat, the next deal is still always 50/50

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 12:42 PM ET #334

    Quote Originally Posted by cwp1979:

    Question...if my game 1 line looks like this:
    10-10-28-45 and I have two game 1 bets tonight, do I bet to win 55 on both or 55 on one game and 38 on the other? And if I were to win both would I cross out the entire line or just the 10 and 45?  Thanks in advance for your help.

    Let's keep our fingers crossed for a sweep tonight. I started the system on Saturday and am currently -6+ units.


    So I divide my total line 1 by 2 and bet to win 47 on each game. I'm assuming that if I win both my line one would start over. What would my line 1 look like if lose one or two of those games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cwp1979:

    Question...if my game 1 line looks like this:
    10-10-28-45 and I have two game 1 bets tonight, do I bet to win 55 on both or 55 on one game and 38 on the other? And if I were to win both would I cross out the entire line or just the 10 and 45?  Thanks in advance for your help.

    Let's keep our fingers crossed for a sweep tonight. I started the system on Saturday and am currently -6+ units.


    So I divide my total line 1 by 2 and bet to win 47 on each game. I'm assuming that if I win both my line one would start over. What would my line 1 look like if lose one or two of those games?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 3:34 PM ET #336

    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    SLW, I did not call you an idiot. Relax.

    I was pointing out that this thread is not the JM NHL thread which would have filters, particularly the conference filter. 

    And If you want to be really technical, Kong (the originator of this thread and modified system) said at the beginning he was gonna roll with no filters. So on that basis, there are no filters to KONG's MODIFIED NHL system.

    Somebody else came in with the filter suggestions, i dont recall who, and added some great filters. Got it from the SBR website, and PSIC.

    If it was Kong, then I stand corrected, but I don't think so. Would put 100 on it at +120.

    So settle down.

    I am playing Columbus in an A game tonight (chasing the away team going on a 3 game series, but only chasing to B game if needed).

    GL everyone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    SLW, I did not call you an idiot. Relax.

    I was pointing out that this thread is not the JM NHL thread which would have filters, particularly the conference filter. 

    And If you want to be really technical, Kong (the originator of this thread and modified system) said at the beginning he was gonna roll with no filters. So on that basis, there are no filters to KONG's MODIFIED NHL system.

    Somebody else came in with the filter suggestions, i dont recall who, and added some great filters. Got it from the SBR website, and PSIC.

    If it was Kong, then I stand corrected, but I don't think so. Would put 100 on it at +120.

    So settle down.

    I am playing Columbus in an A game tonight (chasing the away team going on a 3 game series, but only chasing to B game if needed).

    GL everyone.



     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2009 - 8:44 PM ET #337

    How bout them Blue Jackets.............
    Ugh - Way to go......

    A few days ago I skipped on playing Nas cause they suck
    Of course they won the +1.5
    Oh well

    I am tracking using single integer units to keep things simple
    But I am actually wagering .25% of a unit instead just in case of crap like this
    The system is not fully cooking yet

    Here's what I'm doing

    Lost -17.64 units on Cbs gm1
    will divide by 2 and use the 8.82 on top of gm2 plus 7.84 I am trying to win in the Cbs set
    Cbs Gm2 to win 16.66 units

    The other 8.82 units will go on top of the Buf set plus those 2 units to win

    Set #15
    Gm2
    Car -135
    To win 10.68 units


    Set # 18
    Gm1
    Buf -120
    To win 10.82 units

    Set # 19
    Gm1
    Dal +1.5 / -235
    To win 2 units

    Will touch base tomorrow to show where I stand unit wise after these games flush out

    As the season goes on I believe it will strengthen up even still of certain injuries - trends and stuff. This is more of a mechanical system with a 2 gm modified chase to keep us safe from 2nd guessing our selves with technical capping methods. Do appreciate the look out though
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    How bout them Blue Jackets.............
    Ugh - Way to go......

    A few days ago I skipped on playing Nas cause they suck
    Of course they won the +1.5
    Oh well

    I am tracking using single integer units to keep things simple
    But I am actually wagering .25% of a unit instead just in case of crap like this
    The system is not fully cooking yet

    Here's what I'm doing

    Lost -17.64 units on Cbs gm1
    will divide by 2 and use the 8.82 on top of gm2 plus 7.84 I am trying to win in the Cbs set
    Cbs Gm2 to win 16.66 units

    The other 8.82 units will go on top of the Buf set plus those 2 units to win

    Set #15
    Gm2
    Car -135
    To win 10.68 units


    Set # 18
    Gm1
    Buf -120
    To win 10.82 units

    Set # 19
    Gm1
    Dal +1.5 / -235
    To win 2 units

    Will touch base tomorrow to show where I stand unit wise after these games flush out

    As the season goes on I believe it will strengthen up even still of certain injuries - trends and stuff. This is more of a mechanical system with a 2 gm modified chase to keep us safe from 2nd guessing our selves with technical capping methods. Do appreciate the look out though
     
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    Tough way to lose that Carolina series.  Getting screwed by a empty netter in the final seconds of the A game and losing in the shootout as  a favorite in the B game.
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    Tough way to lose that Carolina series.  Getting screwed by a empty netter in the final seconds of the A game and losing in the shootout as  a favorite in the B game.
     
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    I am starting to question if that 88%-91% winning percentage is good enough to use this type of money management on.  I have already dug myself  a bit of  a hole trying to recoup a portion of the losses of the Minnesota series by adding units to the Carolina series and having that series lose. 
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    I am starting to question if that 88%-91% winning percentage is good enough to use this type of money management on.  I have already dug myself  a bit of  a hole trying to recoup a portion of the losses of the Minnesota series by adding units to the Carolina series and having that series lose. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KissAPistol:

    I am starting to question if that 88%-91% winning percentage is good enough to use this type of money management on.  I have already dug myself  a bit of  a hole trying to recoup a portion of the losses of the Minnesota series by adding units to the Carolina series and having that series lose. 

    Thats why the original system is a 3 game chase.  MIN won on game 3, if you go against the system or tweak it, any failure is on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KissAPistol:

    I am starting to question if that 88%-91% winning percentage is good enough to use this type of money management on.  I have already dug myself  a bit of  a hole trying to recoup a portion of the losses of the Minnesota series by adding units to the Carolina series and having that series lose. 

    Thats why the original system is a 3 game chase.  MIN won on game 3, if you go against the system or tweak it, any failure is on you.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 8:59 AM ET #341

    HECTAR did you play the panthers and ducks last nite too?
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    HECTAR did you play the panthers and ducks last nite too?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    Thats why the original system is a 3 game chase.  MIN won on game 3, if you go against the system or tweak it, any failure is on you.

     

    2 game chase works out great if your not chasing and using the labaurche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    Thats why the original system is a 3 game chase.  MIN won on game 3, if you go against the system or tweak it, any failure is on you.

     

    2 game chase works out great if your not chasing and using the labaurche.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    Thats why the original system is a 3 game chase.  MIN won on game 3, if you go against the system or tweak it, any failure is on you.

     

    2 game chase works out great if your not chasing and using the labaurche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

    Thats why the original system is a 3 game chase.  MIN won on game 3, if you go against the system or tweak it, any failure is on you.

     

    2 game chase works out great if your not chasing and using the labaurche.

     
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    Kiss, you put all of your loses on just the Car game? Did you not spread your losses into all of last night's games?

    I will probably do carolina C game for modest recovery. Not going for full recovery plus profit.

    Tonight we have Detoit -125 @ Pho

    and if I'm not mistaken, Columbus B bet tonight.

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    Kiss, you put all of your loses on just the Car game? Did you not spread your losses into all of last night's games?

    I will probably do carolina C game for modest recovery. Not going for full recovery plus profit.

    Tonight we have Detoit -125 @ Pho

    and if I'm not mistaken, Columbus B bet tonight.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Kiss, you put all of your loses on just the Car game? Did you not spread your losses into all of last night's games?

    I will probably do carolina C game for modest recovery. Not going for full recovery plus profit.

    Tonight we have Detoit -125 @ Pho

    and if I'm not mistaken, Columbus B bet tonight.



    Correct.  I think San Jose is starting a series as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Kiss, you put all of your loses on just the Car game? Did you not spread your losses into all of last night's games?

    I will probably do carolina C game for modest recovery. Not going for full recovery plus profit.

    Tonight we have Detoit -125 @ Pho

    and if I'm not mistaken, Columbus B bet tonight.



    Correct.  I think San Jose is starting a series as well.
     
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    Nope I was wrong on San Jose.  Just Detroit & Columbus.
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    Nope I was wrong on San Jose.  Just Detroit & Columbus.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 9:47 AM ET #347

    By the way Nole,

    How about those Dallas Stars?!! 
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    By the way Nole,

    How about those Dallas Stars?!! 
     
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    Hello guys, excuse me, who explains me or where I can find in thing it consists the John Morrison System? 

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    Hello guys, excuse me, who explains me or where I can find in thing it consists the John Morrison System? 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2009 - 10:29 AM ET #349

    Minnesota, Carolina and Columbus have started to make my lines look a wee bit scary!!

    But this is what the system is all about, you have to have faith in the percentages that the lines wilI spread the losses and they will be recouped in time.  So, I am going to gut it out and keep playing these, but the juice makes me cringe each time I click on "submit bet".  This stuff is not for those with a weak constitution. 

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    Minnesota, Carolina and Columbus have started to make my lines look a wee bit scary!!

    But this is what the system is all about, you have to have faith in the percentages that the lines wilI spread the losses and they will be recouped in time.  So, I am going to gut it out and keep playing these, but the juice makes me cringe each time I click on "submit bet".  This stuff is not for those with a weak constitution. 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Kiss, you put all of your loses on just the Car game? Did you not spread your losses into all of last night's games?

    I will probably do carolina C game for modest recovery. Not going for full recovery plus profit.

    Tonight we have Detoit -125 @ Pho

    and if I'm not mistaken, Columbus B bet tonight.



    I am spreading it out.  Just seems like the games I am have added units to so far seem to keep losing more than winning.  I mean, I am still plus units with the system so far, but the small hole from that Minnesota loss keeps getting a little deeper rather than smaller, and now the Carolina loss on top of it. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

    Kiss, you put all of your loses on just the Car game? Did you not spread your losses into all of last night's games?

    I will probably do carolina C game for modest recovery. Not going for full recovery plus profit.

    Tonight we have Detoit -125 @ Pho

    and if I'm not mistaken, Columbus B bet tonight.



    I am spreading it out.  Just seems like the games I am have added units to so far seem to keep losing more than winning.  I mean, I am still plus units with the system so far, but the small hole from that Minnesota loss keeps getting a little deeper rather than smaller, and now the Carolina loss on top of it. 
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