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    MLB Underdog Systems - Anyone want to track this for the season?

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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 1:23 AM ET #201

    Thursday 5/9 system results

    Dog EFF Score

    0-1, -1 unit

    YTD 5-4, +2.52 units

    Philly 107 Loss

    Dog EFF

    2-1, +2.94 units

    YTD 20-18, +13.78 units

    Minn 141, 2 units WIN

    Pitt 106, 2 units Loss

    Atl 106, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    3-4, -.48 units

    YTD 86-87, +21.68 units

    Clev 105 WIN

    Colo 115 Loss

    Minn 141 WIN

    Pitt 106 Loss

    Tor 133 Loss

    Hou 138 Loss

    Atl 106 WIN

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    Thursday 5/9 system results

    Dog EFF Score

    0-1, -1 unit

    YTD 5-4, +2.52 units

    Philly 107 Loss

    Dog EFF

    2-1, +2.94 units

    YTD 20-18, +13.78 units

    Minn 141, 2 units WIN

    Pitt 106, 2 units Loss

    Atl 106, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    3-4, -.48 units

    YTD 86-87, +21.68 units

    Clev 105 WIN

    Colo 115 Loss

    Minn 141 WIN

    Pitt 106 Loss

    Tor 133 Loss

    Hou 138 Loss

    Atl 106 WIN

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 1:38 AM ET #202

    Do you think we should the filter - dogs going for a sweep - not sure what the record is but I have to imagine that the success rate of dogs going for a sweep in a series is low. It would have eliminated HOU as a play. Thoughts?
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    Do you think we should the filter - dogs going for a sweep - not sure what the record is but I have to imagine that the success rate of dogs going for a sweep in a series is low. It would have eliminated HOU as a play. Thoughts?
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 2:48 AM ET #203

    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    For those that are interested - these plays for today have a decent DOG EFF score for RRL (reverse run line) - in other words of all the games that PIT were dogs they won by 2 or more .545 (54.5%) of the time.  Therefore - there is quite a bit of value on betting PIT on the RRL

    MIN - .455

    PIT - .545

    ATL - .625

    "their are many who are interested" good stat DG, it coincides with last nights winning RRL action>

    (62.5%) Atlanta Braves +182 RRL  WIN /SFG

    (45.5%) Minnesota Twins +220 RRL  WIN /BOS

    it has now become excessively clear the dominant factor of the Dog EFF system is the production of the RRL [Dog-EFF/RRL] the results in this thread speak clearly for themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    For those that are interested - these plays for today have a decent DOG EFF score for RRL (reverse run line) - in other words of all the games that PIT were dogs they won by 2 or more .545 (54.5%) of the time.  Therefore - there is quite a bit of value on betting PIT on the RRL

    MIN - .455

    PIT - .545

    ATL - .625

    "their are many who are interested" good stat DG, it coincides with last nights winning RRL action>

    (62.5%) Atlanta Braves +182 RRL  WIN /SFG

    (45.5%) Minnesota Twins +220 RRL  WIN /BOS

    it has now become excessively clear the dominant factor of the Dog EFF system is the production of the RRL [Dog-EFF/RRL] the results in this thread speak clearly for themselves

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 3:06 AM ET #204

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Thursday 5/9 system results

    Dog EFF Score

    0-1, -1 unit

    YTD 5-4, +2.52 units

    Philly 107 Loss

    Dog EFF

    2-1, +2.94 units

    YTD 20-18, +13.78 units

    Minn 141, 2 units WIN............RRL  WIN

    Pitt 106, 2 units Loss

    Atl 106, 2 units WIN...............RRL  WIN

    System Plays

    3-4, -.48 units

    YTD 86-87, +21.68 units

    Clev 105 WIN.........................RRL  WIN

    Colo 115 Loss

    Minn 141 WIN........................RRL  WIN

    Pitt 106 Loss

    Tor 133 Loss

    Hou 138 Loss

    Atl 106 WIN............................RRL  WIN

    the incorporation of RRL data, and it's value; is essential to the progression of the DogEFF system
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Thursday 5/9 system results

    Dog EFF Score

    0-1, -1 unit

    YTD 5-4, +2.52 units

    Philly 107 Loss

    Dog EFF

    2-1, +2.94 units

    YTD 20-18, +13.78 units

    Minn 141, 2 units WIN............RRL  WIN

    Pitt 106, 2 units Loss

    Atl 106, 2 units WIN...............RRL  WIN

    System Plays

    3-4, -.48 units

    YTD 86-87, +21.68 units

    Clev 105 WIN.........................RRL  WIN

    Colo 115 Loss

    Minn 141 WIN........................RRL  WIN

    Pitt 106 Loss

    Tor 133 Loss

    Hou 138 Loss

    Atl 106 WIN............................RRL  WIN

    the incorporation of RRL data, and it's value; is essential to the progression of the DogEFF system
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 12:16 PM ET #205

    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    Do you think we should the filter - dogs going for a sweep - not sure what the record is but I have to imagine that the success rate of dogs going for a sweep in a series is low. It would have eliminated HOU as a play. Thoughts?

    I think that's a good idea. Although Hou should have won that game.

    As far as incorporating the RRL, I think that's a good idea as SN suggested. I usually bet online through the Station casinos and they don't offer it online. On the odds site I use at Vegas Insider they don't show RRL. Anyone know where I can see these lines? If they are incorporated into the spreadsheet, I could grab them from there and post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    Do you think we should the filter - dogs going for a sweep - not sure what the record is but I have to imagine that the success rate of dogs going for a sweep in a series is low. It would have eliminated HOU as a play. Thoughts?

    I think that's a good idea. Although Hou should have won that game.

    As far as incorporating the RRL, I think that's a good idea as SN suggested. I usually bet online through the Station casinos and they don't offer it online. On the odds site I use at Vegas Insider they don't show RRL. Anyone know where I can see these lines? If they are incorporated into the spreadsheet, I could grab them from there and post.

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 12:54 PM ET #206

    Friday 5/10 system plays

    Dog EFF Score

    YTD 5-4, +2.52 units

    Atlanta 109

    Dog EFF

    YTD 20-18, +13.78 units

    NYY 105, 2 units

    Atl 109, 2 units

    System Plays

    YTD 86-87, +21.68 units

    NYY 105

    Atl 109

    Clev 174

    Mil 130

    NYM 102

    Min 105

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    Friday 5/10 system plays

    Dog EFF Score

    YTD 5-4, +2.52 units

    Atlanta 109

    Dog EFF

    YTD 20-18, +13.78 units

    NYY 105, 2 units

    Atl 109, 2 units

    System Plays

    YTD 86-87, +21.68 units

    NYY 105

    Atl 109

    Clev 174

    Mil 130

    NYM 102

    Min 105

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 1:34 PM ET #207

    LAA ?
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 1:40 PM ET #208

    Yes add LAA, I missed it. When I first ran the update I didn't notice no line posted for that game. It has been fixed. Add LAA to the System plays at 11 and also the Dog EFF plays.

     

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    Yes add LAA, I missed it. When I first ran the update I didn't notice no line posted for that game. It has been fixed. Add LAA to the System plays at 11 and also the Dog EFF plays.

     

    Nice catch Rommi.

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 1:41 PM ET #209

    Friday 5/10 system plays (REVISED FOR LAA)

    Dog EFF Score

    YTD 5-4, +2.52 units

    Atlanta 109

    Dog EFF

    YTD 20-18, +13.78 units

    NYY 105, 2 units

    Atl 109, 2 units

    LAA 114, 2 units

    System Plays

    YTD 86-87, +21.68 units

    NYY 105

    Atl 109

    Clev 174

    Mil 130

    NYM 102

    Min 105

    LAA 114

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    Friday 5/10 system plays (REVISED FOR LAA)

    Dog EFF Score

    YTD 5-4, +2.52 units

    Atlanta 109

    Dog EFF

    YTD 20-18, +13.78 units

    NYY 105, 2 units

    Atl 109, 2 units

    LAA 114, 2 units

    System Plays

    YTD 86-87, +21.68 units

    NYY 105

    Atl 109

    Clev 174

    Mil 130

    NYM 102

    Min 105

    LAA 114

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 1:45 PM ET #210

    That LAA game could change. Hanson was the scheduled starter and he will miss the game. This is a no play for now until a starter is announced and lines are updated.
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    That LAA game could change. Hanson was the scheduled starter and he will miss the game. This is a no play for now until a starter is announced and lines are updated.
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 1:54 PM ET #211

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I think that's a good idea. Although Hou should have won that game.

    As far as incorporating the RRL, I think that's a good idea as SN suggested. I usually bet online through the Station casinos and they don't offer it online. On the odds site I use at Vegas Insider they don't show RRL. Anyone know where I can see these lines? If they are incorporated into the spreadsheet, I could grab them from there and post.


    I found a site:
     https://www.jazzbet.com/LiveLines.aspx?lg=139 
    without logging on.

    It even has -2.5 lines further down.  

    SN, what filter are you using for RRL, or just play the Dog Eff teams?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I think that's a good idea. Although Hou should have won that game.

    As far as incorporating the RRL, I think that's a good idea as SN suggested. I usually bet online through the Station casinos and they don't offer it online. On the odds site I use at Vegas Insider they don't show RRL. Anyone know where I can see these lines? If they are incorporated into the spreadsheet, I could grab them from there and post.


    I found a site:
     https://www.jazzbet.com/LiveLines.aspx?lg=139 
    without logging on.

    It even has -2.5 lines further down.  

    SN, what filter are you using for RRL, or just play the Dog Eff teams?
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 2:17 PM ET #212

    I still can't update or upload any docs to google docs for some reason.

    5/10/2013

    CLE RRL DOG EFF - .412 (41.2%)

    MIN RRL DOG EFF - .478 (47.8%)

    ATL RRL DOG EFF - .667 (66.7%)

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    I still can't update or upload any docs to google docs for some reason.

    5/10/2013

    CLE RRL DOG EFF - .412 (41.2%)

    MIN RRL DOG EFF - .478 (47.8%)

    ATL RRL DOG EFF - .667 (66.7%)

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 2:30 PM ET #213

    LAA is a confirmed play.

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    LAA is a confirmed play.

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 4:27 PM ET #214

    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    I still can't update or upload any docs to google docs for some reason.


    I was able to, no problem.  I sent up a spreadsheet you made for the other forum thread:

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZTkVZdUdJOVRsY00/edit?usp=sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    I still can't update or upload any docs to google docs for some reason.


    I was able to, no problem.  I sent up a spreadsheet you made for the other forum thread:

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZTkVZdUdJOVRsY00/edit?usp=sharing

    Bottom 3?
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn]

    I was able to, no problem.  I sent up a spreadsheet you made for the other forum thread:

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZTkVZdUdJOVRsY00/edit?usp=sharing

    Bottom 3?

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    Thanks Buckeye - leads me to believe that it is a browser issue - btw - I automated to buddah system for you to track - as soon as I can fix my google docs issues - I will upload it and you can track it for the season - you still down for that right?

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn]

    I was able to, no problem.  I sent up a spreadsheet you made for the other forum thread:

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bynr1eDtdk5ZTkVZdUdJOVRsY00/edit?usp=sharing

    Bottom 3?

    [/Quote

    Thanks Buckeye - leads me to believe that it is a browser issue - btw - I automated to buddah system for you to track - as soon as I can fix my google docs issues - I will upload it and you can track it for the season - you still down for that right?

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 5:14 PM ET #216

    I use Google Chrome, and yeah, I'm up for it.  I've been cleaning up my personal spreadsheet to get ready to do this.
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    Posted: May. 10, 2013 - 6:20 PM ET #217

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn:


    I found a site:
     https://www.jazzbet.com/LiveLines.aspx?lg=139 
    without logging on.

    It even has -2.5 lines further down.  

    SN, what filter are you using for RRL, or just play the Dog Eff teams?

    I've taken the Dog EFF leans and filtered them through sabermetric handicapping matchups, with an average of  2 plays per day, I began 3 days ago when I noticed the WIN consistency of the RRL; ironically the Dog EFF system, as prescribed, opened the door, and I unified it with my sabermetric dog matchup formulated RRL handicap.....which now stands at 8 consecutive WINS and +32;73units....I think I'll wire DG his end, well done;

    btw  two 'books' on-line that are exclusive to MLB wagering, and carry the RRL are> PinnacleSports, and 5dimes, they are listed under "Alternative Lines" if by chance anyone dealing with a book that does not accept RRL bets, this would be a red flag, that you really need to take your action elsewhere..the RRL is set aprx 4 hours after  the opening line is posted to contain balance...all my action goes through LV I seldom use an online service for anything other than soccer, the RRL odds I have posted in this thread  are the closing lines from CantorLV M Resort sportsbook....my best

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn:


    I found a site:
     https://www.jazzbet.com/LiveLines.aspx?lg=139 
    without logging on.

    It even has -2.5 lines further down.  

    SN, what filter are you using for RRL, or just play the Dog Eff teams?

    I've taken the Dog EFF leans and filtered them through sabermetric handicapping matchups, with an average of  2 plays per day, I began 3 days ago when I noticed the WIN consistency of the RRL; ironically the Dog EFF system, as prescribed, opened the door, and I unified it with my sabermetric dog matchup formulated RRL handicap.....which now stands at 8 consecutive WINS and +32;73units....I think I'll wire DG his end, well done;

    btw  two 'books' on-line that are exclusive to MLB wagering, and carry the RRL are> PinnacleSports, and 5dimes, they are listed under "Alternative Lines" if by chance anyone dealing with a book that does not accept RRL bets, this would be a red flag, that you really need to take your action elsewhere..the RRL is set aprx 4 hours after  the opening line is posted to contain balance...all my action goes through LV I seldom use an online service for anything other than soccer, the RRL odds I have posted in this thread  are the closing lines from CantorLV M Resort sportsbook....my best

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    I've taken the Dog EFF leans and filtered them through sabermetric handicapping matchups, with an average of  2 plays per day, I began 3 days ago when I noticed the WIN consistency of the RRL; ironically the Dog EFF system, as prescribed, opened the door, and I unified it with my sabermetric dog matchup formulated RRL handicap.....which now stands at 8 consecutive WINS and +32;73units....I think I'll wire DG his end, well done;

    btw  two 'books' on-line that are exclusive to MLB wagering, and carry the RRL are> PinnacleSports, and 5dimes, they are listed under "Alternative Lines" if by chance anyone dealing with a book that does not accept RRL bets, this would be a red flag, that you really need to take your action elsewhere..the RRL is set aprx 4 hours after  the opening line is posted to contain balance...all my action goes through LV I seldom use an online service for anything other than soccer, the RRL odds I have posted in this thread  are the closing lines from CantorLV M Resort sportsbook....my best

    I'm just glad I could help you for once Sports Network, you are always helping me - so i'm glad I was able to add some value to your handicapping process.  It's like the saying goes "What gift do you give to a man that has everything" - LOL - you are defintely light years ahead of me when it comes to general capping knowledge.

    I do have have a question though if you have the time - I will send it to you via PM.

    Cheers

    DG

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    I've taken the Dog EFF leans and filtered them through sabermetric handicapping matchups, with an average of  2 plays per day, I began 3 days ago when I noticed the WIN consistency of the RRL; ironically the Dog EFF system, as prescribed, opened the door, and I unified it with my sabermetric dog matchup formulated RRL handicap.....which now stands at 8 consecutive WINS and +32;73units....I think I'll wire DG his end, well done;

    btw  two 'books' on-line that are exclusive to MLB wagering, and carry the RRL are> PinnacleSports, and 5dimes, they are listed under "Alternative Lines" if by chance anyone dealing with a book that does not accept RRL bets, this would be a red flag, that you really need to take your action elsewhere..the RRL is set aprx 4 hours after  the opening line is posted to contain balance...all my action goes through LV I seldom use an online service for anything other than soccer, the RRL odds I have posted in this thread  are the closing lines from CantorLV M Resort sportsbook....my best

    I'm just glad I could help you for once Sports Network, you are always helping me - so i'm glad I was able to add some value to your handicapping process.  It's like the saying goes "What gift do you give to a man that has everything" - LOL - you are defintely light years ahead of me when it comes to general capping knowledge.

    I do have have a question though if you have the time - I will send it to you via PM.

    Cheers

    DG

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2013 - 6:01 AM ET #219

    Friday 5/10 results

    Dog EFF Score

    0-1, -1 unit

    YTD 5-5, +1.52 units

    Atlanta 109 Loss

    Dog EFF

    2-1, +2.38 units

    YTD 22-19, +16.16 units

    NYY 105, 2 units WIN

    Atl 109, 2 units Loss

    LAA 114, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    2-5, -2.81 units

    YTD 88-92, +18.87 units

    NYY 105 WIN

    Atl 109 Loss

    Clev 174 Loss

    Mil 130 Loss

    NYM 102 Loss

    Min 105 Loss

    LAA 114 WIN

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Friday 5/10 results

    Dog EFF Score

    0-1, -1 unit

    YTD 5-5, +1.52 units

    Atlanta 109 Loss

    Dog EFF

    2-1, +2.38 units

    YTD 22-19, +16.16 units

    NYY 105, 2 units WIN

    Atl 109, 2 units Loss

    LAA 114, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    2-5, -2.81 units

    YTD 88-92, +18.87 units

    NYY 105 WIN

    Atl 109 Loss

    Clev 174 Loss

    Mil 130 Loss

    NYM 102 Loss

    Min 105 Loss

    LAA 114 WIN

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2013 - 8:05 AM ET #220

    Yesterday's Dog EFF/RRL Results: [filtered handicap*]

    <NY Yankees² +182 RRL  WIN>

     

    *9-0  100%  ROI +39.45units

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    Yesterday's Dog EFF/RRL Results: [filtered handicap*]

    <NY Yankees² +182 RRL  WIN>

     

    *9-0  100%  ROI +39.45units

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2013 - 12:51 PM ET #221

    Pitt ?
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    Posted: May. 11, 2013 - 12:55 PM ET #222

    Saturday 5/11 system plays

    Dog EFF Score

    YTD 5-5, +1.52 units

    No plays

    Dog EFF

    YTD 22-19, +16.16 units

    Pitts 108, 2 units

    System Plays

    YTD 88-92, +18.87 units

    Pitts 108

    ChiSox 100

    Minn 101

    Atl/SF Under 7 -120

    Mia/LAD Under 7 -120 (you could also get 6.5 +110)

    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Saturday 5/11 system plays

    Dog EFF Score

    YTD 5-5, +1.52 units

    No plays

    Dog EFF

    YTD 22-19, +16.16 units

    Pitts 108, 2 units

    System Plays

    YTD 88-92, +18.87 units

    Pitts 108

    ChiSox 100

    Minn 101

    Atl/SF Under 7 -120

    Mia/LAD Under 7 -120 (you could also get 6.5 +110)

     
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    Wow, superb stuff here guys. Seems like you've got it dialed in with RRL DOG EFF.

    There is a great group of combined minds here producing an incredible product.

    This type of effort is what the covers community is all about in my eyes. There is a lack of quality products in general but this thread breeds involvement and collaboration to achieve a goal. This has been proven right here in real time. The process of initiation through a great spreadsheet and continuing to work at filtering and tracking and refining!

    Kudos to all involved here, and continued success. Keep it positive and continue to grind it out win or lose, it's worth it to the overall learning experience.

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    Wow, superb stuff here guys. Seems like you've got it dialed in with RRL DOG EFF.

    There is a great group of combined minds here producing an incredible product.

    This type of effort is what the covers community is all about in my eyes. There is a lack of quality products in general but this thread breeds involvement and collaboration to achieve a goal. This has been proven right here in real time. The process of initiation through a great spreadsheet and continuing to work at filtering and tracking and refining!

    Kudos to all involved here, and continued success. Keep it positive and continue to grind it out win or lose, it's worth it to the overall learning experience.

    Peace
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2013 - 5:02 PM ET #224

    very square day yesterday with favorites winning 11 out of 15 - and DOG EFF still was profitable, with the other 2 minor setbacks.

    With the square day - you know what's coming - dogs gonna be barking. 

    DanRules - have you been able to gleen any insights from tracking?  I am thinking there will be some combination of filters that will give us a huge ROI.

    At first glance it looks like the more of the systems agree - the better the result

     

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    very square day yesterday with favorites winning 11 out of 15 - and DOG EFF still was profitable, with the other 2 minor setbacks.

    With the square day - you know what's coming - dogs gonna be barking. 

    DanRules - have you been able to gleen any insights from tracking?  I am thinking there will be some combination of filters that will give us a huge ROI.

    At first glance it looks like the more of the systems agree - the better the result

     

     
     
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    Thanks oilcountry for the kind words. Hopefully we can fine tune this and make it better for all.

    Degen, yes so far the system plays seem to do better when they qualify for more than 1. Not a lot of plays though and a small sample size. I'll keep an eye on it and report findings every week or so time permitting.

    I think SN is on to something with this RRL. I may have to open an account at Cantor just to bet it online since I cannot do so at Stations online app.

     

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    Thanks oilcountry for the kind words. Hopefully we can fine tune this and make it better for all.

    Degen, yes so far the system plays seem to do better when they qualify for more than 1. Not a lot of plays though and a small sample size. I'll keep an eye on it and report findings every week or so time permitting.

    I think SN is on to something with this RRL. I may have to open an account at Cantor just to bet it online since I cannot do so at Stations online app.

     

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