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    MLB Underdog Systems - Anyone want to track this for the season?

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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2013 - 4:43 PM ET #76

    Degen, one thing that I noticed is the spreadsheet is not accounting for doubleheaders from the previous days rainouts.
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2013 - 5:39 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Degen, one thing that I noticed is the spreadsheet is not accounting for doubleheaders from the previous days rainouts.

    yeah - I know - the schedule is hard-coded.  I was planning on re-working that - so the schedule is also dynamic and downloaded from the web.  Just so many things to do on multiple projects.  I'll get to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Degen, one thing that I noticed is the spreadsheet is not accounting for doubleheaders from the previous days rainouts.

    yeah - I know - the schedule is hard-coded.  I was planning on re-working that - so the schedule is also dynamic and downloaded from the web.  Just so many things to do on multiple projects.  I'll get to it.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2013 - 6:25 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    yeah - I know - the schedule is hard-coded.  I was planning on re-working that - so the schedule is also dynamic and downloaded from the web.  Just so many things to do on multiple projects.  I'll get to it.

    No worries, it doesn't happen too often. I can easily look at those games manually.

    I did a little checking and found that since we started tracking this on 4/15, road dogs are 16-44 (all games no other filters). Even road dogs with a better record are 6-12. Home dogs are 18-15, with home dogs with a better record 3-2 and with worse record 15-13.

    Small sample size, but makes me not want to bet road dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    yeah - I know - the schedule is hard-coded.  I was planning on re-working that - so the schedule is also dynamic and downloaded from the web.  Just so many things to do on multiple projects.  I'll get to it.

    No worries, it doesn't happen too often. I can easily look at those games manually.

    I did a little checking and found that since we started tracking this on 4/15, road dogs are 16-44 (all games no other filters). Even road dogs with a better record are 6-12. Home dogs are 18-15, with home dogs with a better record 3-2 and with worse record 15-13.

    Small sample size, but makes me not want to bet road dogs.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2013 - 1:39 AM ET #79

    Tuesday results:

    2-2 with 2 rainouts, +.49 units

    YTD 26-26, +6.63 units

    Balt 101 WIN

    KC 165 Rain

    Wash 105 Loss

    Pitt 148 WIN

    NYM 129 Loss

    Clev 111 Rain

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    Tuesday results:

    2-2 with 2 rainouts, +.49 units

    YTD 26-26, +6.63 units

    Balt 101 WIN

    KC 165 Rain

    Wash 105 Loss

    Pitt 148 WIN

    NYM 129 Loss

    Clev 111 Rain

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2013 - 11:59 AM ET #80

    Wednesday 4/24 system plays:

    Balt 118

    Cubs 154

    STL 134

    Clev 122

    Hou 101

    AZ 138

    Oak 143

    Pitt 110

    NYY 111

    LAA 138

     

     

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    Wednesday 4/24 system plays:

    Balt 118

    Cubs 154

    STL 134

    Clev 122

    Hou 101

    AZ 138

    Oak 143

    Pitt 110

    NYY 111

    LAA 138

     

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 1:57 AM ET #81

    Wednesday results:

    4-6, -1.17 units

    YTD 30-32, +5.46 units

    Balt 118 Loss

    Cubs 154 Loss

    STL 134 WIN

    Clev 122 Loss

    Hou 101 WIN

    AZ 138 WIN

    Oak 143 Loss

    Pitt 110 WIN

    NYY 111 Loss

    LAA 138 Loss

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    Wednesday results:

    4-6, -1.17 units

    YTD 30-32, +5.46 units

    Balt 118 Loss

    Cubs 154 Loss

    STL 134 WIN

    Clev 122 Loss

    Hou 101 WIN

    AZ 138 WIN

    Oak 143 Loss

    Pitt 110 WIN

    NYY 111 Loss

    LAA 138 Loss

     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2013 - 12:09 PM ET #82

    Thursday 4/25 system plays -

    Tor 136

    Colo 120

    NYM 120

    Cincy 125

    Miami 101

    TB 117

    Balt 115

    Sea 112

    KC/Det UNDER 6.5 Even (7 -120 if you prefer)

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    Thursday 4/25 system plays -

    Tor 136

    Colo 120

    NYM 120

    Cincy 125

    Miami 101

    TB 117

    Balt 115

    Sea 112

    KC/Det UNDER 6.5 Even (7 -120 if you prefer)

     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 1:18 AM ET #83

    Horrible day for the system. If this doesn't start producing winners soon I'm going to stop wasting my time with this.

    2-7, -4.93 units

    YTD  32-39, +.53 units

    Tor 136 Loss

    Colo 120 Loss

    NYM 120 Loss

    Cincy 125 Loss

    Miami 101 Loss

    TB 117 Loss

    Balt 115 WIN

    Sea 112 WIN

    KC/Det UNDER 6.5 Even (7 -120 if you prefer) Loss

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    Horrible day for the system. If this doesn't start producing winners soon I'm going to stop wasting my time with this.

    2-7, -4.93 units

    YTD  32-39, +.53 units

    Tor 136 Loss

    Colo 120 Loss

    NYM 120 Loss

    Cincy 125 Loss

    Miami 101 Loss

    TB 117 Loss

    Balt 115 WIN

    Sea 112 WIN

    KC/Det UNDER 6.5 Even (7 -120 if you prefer) Loss

     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 2:03 AM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Horrible day for the system. If this doesn't start producing winners soon I'm going to stop wasting my time with this.

    2-7, -4.93 units

    YTD  32-39, +.53 units

    Tor 136 Loss

    Colo 120 Loss

    NYM 120 Loss

    Cincy 125 Loss

    Miami 101 Loss

    TB 117 Loss

    Balt 115 WIN

    Sea 112 WIN

    KC/Det UNDER 6.5 Even (7 -120 if you prefer) Loss


    The YTD is 32-39 and +.53 units. You are hitting at 45% win rate and still in profit. I would not call that wasting time. You have a golden egg in your hand playing juice free games besides the totals. Keep with it and it will benefit you longterm. Do a little handicapping using a tool put into the system(DOG EFF). Make a filter from the dog system plays. Experiment. You have a solid system. There is no reason to play martingale type games when you can still have a losing record for the day and likely be in profit. Every pro capper's system has off days and off weeks. Those that stick with what they know works longterm,benefits. Use smart money management that way you can ride out losing streaks.

    You are doing a good job keeping up with it. Stick with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    Horrible day for the system. If this doesn't start producing winners soon I'm going to stop wasting my time with this.

    2-7, -4.93 units

    YTD  32-39, +.53 units

    Tor 136 Loss

    Colo 120 Loss

    NYM 120 Loss

    Cincy 125 Loss

    Miami 101 Loss

    TB 117 Loss

    Balt 115 WIN

    Sea 112 WIN

    KC/Det UNDER 6.5 Even (7 -120 if you prefer) Loss


    The YTD is 32-39 and +.53 units. You are hitting at 45% win rate and still in profit. I would not call that wasting time. You have a golden egg in your hand playing juice free games besides the totals. Keep with it and it will benefit you longterm. Do a little handicapping using a tool put into the system(DOG EFF). Make a filter from the dog system plays. Experiment. You have a solid system. There is no reason to play martingale type games when you can still have a losing record for the day and likely be in profit. Every pro capper's system has off days and off weeks. Those that stick with what they know works longterm,benefits. Use smart money management that way you can ride out losing streaks.

    You are doing a good job keeping up with it. Stick with it.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 2:38 AM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by nawlins51:


    The YTD is 32-39 and +.53 units. You are hitting at 45% win rate and still in profit. I would not call that wasting time. You have a golden egg in your hand playing juice free games besides the totals. Keep with it and it will benefit you longterm. Do a little handicapping using a tool put into the system(DOG EFF). Make a filter from the dog system plays. Experiment. You have a solid system. There is no reason to play martingale type games when you can still have a losing record for the day and likely be in profit. Every pro capper's system has off days and off weeks. Those that stick with what they know works longterm,benefits. Use smart money management that way you can ride out losing streaks.

    You are doing a good job keeping up with it. Stick with it.

    Just tracking doing flat betting. I do need to look the filters that Degen put in.

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    The YTD is 32-39 and +.53 units. You are hitting at 45% win rate and still in profit. I would not call that wasting time. You have a golden egg in your hand playing juice free games besides the totals. Keep with it and it will benefit you longterm. Do a little handicapping using a tool put into the system(DOG EFF). Make a filter from the dog system plays. Experiment. You have a solid system. There is no reason to play martingale type games when you can still have a losing record for the day and likely be in profit. Every pro capper's system has off days and off weeks. Those that stick with what they know works longterm,benefits. Use smart money management that way you can ride out losing streaks.

    You are doing a good job keeping up with it. Stick with it.

    Just tracking doing flat betting. I do need to look the filters that Degen put in.

     
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    "make a filter from the dog system plays"

    nawlins51 assessment is on target- handicap the games in which the system produces, MM technique is the key factor, which must be formulated/innovated by the capper initiating the system. this is about "plus units" not winning%

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    "make a filter from the dog system plays"

    nawlins51 assessment is on target- handicap the games in which the system produces, MM technique is the key factor, which must be formulated/innovated by the capper initiating the system. this is about "plus units" not winning%

     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 10:51 AM ET #87

    Nawlins and SportsNetwork hit the nail on the head - take a look at thursdays' games - if we filtered out dogs with a DOG EFF less than .400 - then .400 - the systems went 2-2

     

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    Nawlins and SportsNetwork hit the nail on the head - take a look at thursdays' games - if we filtered out dogs with a DOG EFF less than .400 - then .400 - the systems went 2-2

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    Nawlins and SportsNetwork hit the nail on the head - take a look at thursdays' games - if we filtered out dogs with a DOG EFF less than .400 - then .400 - the systems went 2-2

     

    And there are probably other filters that I am missing - as I mentioned - I am downright horrible at tracking and analysis - but if you let me know what angles / filters would help - I can add them

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    Quote Originally Posted by DegenGamble:

    Nawlins and SportsNetwork hit the nail on the head - take a look at thursdays' games - if we filtered out dogs with a DOG EFF less than .400 - then .400 - the systems went 2-2

     

    And there are probably other filters that I am missing - as I mentioned - I am downright horrible at tracking and analysis - but if you let me know what angles / filters would help - I can add them

     
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    Posted: Apr. 26, 2013 - 2:21 PM ET #89

    Ok, a little change in strategy. I will mark plays that have .400 or better on the two efficiency filters. With these plays I will use a labby line(s) and post the units plays. I will also include the Unders in this as that is 5-2 so far. I will start this today with a seperate record/units.

    I will continue to post all system plays with the flat betting as was suggested by the system originator. I will include the .400 plays in with these flat bet system plays. Let's do this!

    Friday 4/26 plays:

    DOG EFF

    Balt 107 2 units

    Sea 125 2 units

    Atl/Det under 7.5 -120, 2.4 to win 2 units

    System Plays

    Tor 125

    Cubs 100

    TB 127

    Minn 104

    Pitt 172

    Mil 130

    Balt 107

    Sea 125

    Atl/Det under 7.5 -120

     

     

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    Ok, a little change in strategy. I will mark plays that have .400 or better on the two efficiency filters. With these plays I will use a labby line(s) and post the units plays. I will also include the Unders in this as that is 5-2 so far. I will start this today with a seperate record/units.

    I will continue to post all system plays with the flat betting as was suggested by the system originator. I will include the .400 plays in with these flat bet system plays. Let's do this!

    Friday 4/26 plays:

    DOG EFF

    Balt 107 2 units

    Sea 125 2 units

    Atl/Det under 7.5 -120, 2.4 to win 2 units

    System Plays

    Tor 125

    Cubs 100

    TB 127

    Minn 104

    Pitt 172

    Mil 130

    Balt 107

    Sea 125

    Atl/Det under 7.5 -120

     

     

     
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    Friday 4/26 results:

    DOG EFF

    1-2, -2.26 units

    Balt 107 2 units WIN

    Sea 125 2 units Loss

    Atl/Det under 7.5 -120, 2.4 to win 2 units Loss

    System Plays

    2-7, -5.13 Units

    YTD 34-46, -4.6 Units

    Tor 125 Loss

    Cubs 100 WIN

    TB 127 Loss

    Minn 104 Loss

    Pitt 172 Loss

    Mil 130 Loss

    Balt 107 Win

    Sea 125 Loss

    Atl/Det under 7.5 -120 Loss

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    Friday 4/26 results:

    DOG EFF

    1-2, -2.26 units

    Balt 107 2 units WIN

    Sea 125 2 units Loss

    Atl/Det under 7.5 -120, 2.4 to win 2 units Loss

    System Plays

    2-7, -5.13 Units

    YTD 34-46, -4.6 Units

    Tor 125 Loss

    Cubs 100 WIN

    TB 127 Loss

    Minn 104 Loss

    Pitt 172 Loss

    Mil 130 Loss

    Balt 107 Win

    Sea 125 Loss

    Atl/Det under 7.5 -120 Loss

     
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    Posted: Apr. 27, 2013 - 12:38 PM ET #91

    Saturday 4/27 plays:

    Dog EFF

    Balt 134, 3 units

    System Plays

    Balt 134

    Philly 123

    Tor 146

    Cle 142

    Colo 145

    LAA 144

    Mil 120

     

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    Saturday 4/27 plays:

    Dog EFF

    Balt 134, 3 units

    System Plays

    Balt 134

    Philly 123

    Tor 146

    Cle 142

    Colo 145

    LAA 144

    Mil 120

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2013 - 12:35 AM ET #92

    Saturday 4/27 results:

    Dog EFF

    1-0, +4.02 units

    YTD 2-2, +1.76 units

    Balt 134, 3 units WIN

    System Plays

    3-4, -.23 units

    YTD 37-50, -4.83

    Balt 134 WIN

    Philly 123 WIN

    Tor 146 Loss

    Cle 142 Loss

    Colo 145 Loss

    LAA 144 Loss

    Mil 120 WIN

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    Saturday 4/27 results:

    Dog EFF

    1-0, +4.02 units

    YTD 2-2, +1.76 units

    Balt 134, 3 units WIN

    System Plays

    3-4, -.23 units

    YTD 37-50, -4.83

    Balt 134 WIN

    Philly 123 WIN

    Tor 146 Loss

    Cle 142 Loss

    Colo 145 Loss

    LAA 144 Loss

    Mil 120 WIN

     
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    Posted: Apr. 28, 2013 - 12:42 PM ET #93

    Sunday 4/28 plays (Decided to remove the UNDERs from the DOG EFF Plays):

    Dog EFF

    NYY 1.02, 2 units

    System Plays

    NYY 1.02

    Sox 1.24

    Cle 1.02

    Minn 1.18

    Pitt 1.82

    SD 1.17

    Atl/Det Under 7.5, +110

    Mil/LAD Under 6.5 -110

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    Sunday 4/28 plays (Decided to remove the UNDERs from the DOG EFF Plays):

    Dog EFF

    NYY 1.02, 2 units

    System Plays

    NYY 1.02

    Sox 1.24

    Cle 1.02

    Minn 1.18

    Pitt 1.82

    SD 1.17

    Atl/Det Under 7.5, +110

    Mil/LAD Under 6.5 -110

     
    Danrules24
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2013 - 12:30 AM ET #94

    Sunday 4/18 results:

    Dog EFF

    1-0, +2.04 units

    YTD: 3-2, +3.80 Units

    NYY 1.02, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    5-3, +3.19 units

    YTD 42-53 , -1.64 units

    NYY 1.02 WIN

    Sox 1.24 Loss

    Cle 1.02 Loss

    Minn 1.18 WIN

    Pitt 1.82 WIN

    SD 1.17 WIN

    Atl/Det Under 7.5, +110 Loss

    Mil/LAD Under 6.5 -110 WIN

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    Sunday 4/18 results:

    Dog EFF

    1-0, +2.04 units

    YTD: 3-2, +3.80 Units

    NYY 1.02, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    5-3, +3.19 units

    YTD 42-53 , -1.64 units

    NYY 1.02 WIN

    Sox 1.24 Loss

    Cle 1.02 Loss

    Minn 1.18 WIN

    Pitt 1.82 WIN

    SD 1.17 WIN

    Atl/Det Under 7.5, +110 Loss

    Mil/LAD Under 6.5 -110 WIN

     
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    Posted: Apr. 29, 2013 - 3:41 PM ET #95

    Monday 4/29 system plays:

    Dog EFF

    Pitt 119, 2 units

    Sea 106, 2 units

    System Plays

    Pitt 119

    Sea 106

    Minn 205

    Mia 138

    Clev 134

    Cin 115

    LAA 116

    Colo 144

    Cincy/Stl UNDER 7 -110

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    Monday 4/29 system plays:

    Dog EFF

    Pitt 119, 2 units

    Sea 106, 2 units

    System Plays

    Pitt 119

    Sea 106

    Minn 205

    Mia 138

    Clev 134

    Cin 115

    LAA 116

    Colo 144

    Cincy/Stl UNDER 7 -110

     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2013 - 12:51 PM ET #96

    Monday 4/9 results:

    Dog EFF

    1-1, +.12 units

    YTD 4-3, +3.92 units

    Pitt 119, 2 units Loss

    Sea 106, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    6-3, +4.37 units

    YTD 48-56,  +2.73 units

    Pitt 119 Loss

    Sea 106 WIN

    Minn 205 Loss

    Mia 138 WIN

    Clev 134 WIN

    Cin 115 WIN

    LAA 116 Loss

    Colo 144 WIN

    Cincy/Stl UNDER 7 -110 WIN

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    Monday 4/9 results:

    Dog EFF

    1-1, +.12 units

    YTD 4-3, +3.92 units

    Pitt 119, 2 units Loss

    Sea 106, 2 units WIN

    System Plays

    6-3, +4.37 units

    YTD 48-56,  +2.73 units

    Pitt 119 Loss

    Sea 106 WIN

    Minn 205 Loss

    Mia 138 WIN

    Clev 134 WIN

    Cin 115 WIN

    LAA 116 Loss

    Colo 144 WIN

    Cincy/Stl UNDER 7 -110 WIN

     
    BuckeyeKaptn
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2013 - 3:32 PM ET #97

    Dan, is your spreadsheet updating?  Mine has only half the games pitchers, no odds, and no teams.  I've updated 3 times
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2013 - 3:33 PM ET #98

    sorry, no teams in the system plays columns
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    sorry, no teams in the system plays columns
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2013 - 3:34 PM ET #99

    I get the same thing. Waiting for Degen to chime in.
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    I get the same thing. Waiting for Degen to chime in.
     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 30, 2013 - 3:37 PM ET #100

    In fact, Cisco's and MLB RPI 2013 are the same way.
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    In fact, Cisco's and MLB RPI 2013 are the same way.
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