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    Posted: May. 5, 2017 - 12:13 AM ET #51

    One potential play showing up for tomorrow (5/5) ...

    LAD at SD (unfiltered system: 5ROI)
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    LAD at SD (unfiltered system: 5ROI)
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2017 - 12:28 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by RisingDough:

    Interesting I've wanted to mathematically figure out what each half a run is worth in MLB. Obviously with 7 and 9 being the key totals in MLB it would be worth much more going from 6.5 to 7 or 7 to 7.5 than 7.5 to 8, etc. 


    Yeah, it's tricky when playing a system like this that's based on closing odds. If the odds are showing an early 8.0U -110, it looks good on the ROI table, so I want to play it. Then, 15 minutes before game time, the odds go to 7.5U +105, and that shows negative ROI. Those ROI values are based on closing lines, and not the line you play before game time. So, I can get a better total than the close, but the closing play doesn't look as good based on historical stats.

    Like always, handicapping can help to predict the direction of the line, so you can grab a better play early in the day, and still hopefully, get a closing line that shows good ROI statistically for the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingDough:

    Interesting I've wanted to mathematically figure out what each half a run is worth in MLB. Obviously with 7 and 9 being the key totals in MLB it would be worth much more going from 6.5 to 7 or 7 to 7.5 than 7.5 to 8, etc. 


    Yeah, it's tricky when playing a system like this that's based on closing odds. If the odds are showing an early 8.0U -110, it looks good on the ROI table, so I want to play it. Then, 15 minutes before game time, the odds go to 7.5U +105, and that shows negative ROI. Those ROI values are based on closing lines, and not the line you play before game time. So, I can get a better total than the close, but the closing play doesn't look as good based on historical stats.

    Like always, handicapping can help to predict the direction of the line, so you can grab a better play early in the day, and still hopefully, get a closing line that shows good ROI statistically for the system.
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2017 - 3:03 PM ET #53

    Plays for 5/5

    Unfiltered System
    CLE/KC:  8.0U -110  (5Dimes)

    LAD/SD:  7.5U -115 (5Dimes)
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    Plays for 5/5

    Unfiltered System
    CLE/KC:  8.0U -110  (5Dimes)

    LAD/SD:  7.5U -115 (5Dimes)
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 1:55 PM ET #54

    Ugly finish in Dodger game it was 2-1 in the 7th
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 2:03 PM ET #55

    Any games tonight?
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 2:58 PM ET #56

    Plays for 5/6

    I'm still watching the odds to get the best entry point, but these games will be plays.

    Unfiltered System
    HOU/LAA currently 7.5U -120
    NYY/CHC currently 7.5U -110

    I'm considering two units on the NYY/CHC game. The unfiltered system generates an ROI around 5%, but if you filter on the home favorites (Cubs are -129), the ROI goes up to around 9%.

    Reasoning: The favorite will most likely win, and in most of those games, they will not bat in the bottom of the ninth, so one less half inning of possible scoring helps the under.
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    Plays for 5/6

    I'm still watching the odds to get the best entry point, but these games will be plays.

    Unfiltered System
    HOU/LAA currently 7.5U -120
    NYY/CHC currently 7.5U -110

    I'm considering two units on the NYY/CHC game. The unfiltered system generates an ROI around 5%, but if you filter on the home favorites (Cubs are -129), the ROI goes up to around 9%.

    Reasoning: The favorite will most likely win, and in most of those games, they will not bat in the bottom of the ninth, so one less half inning of possible scoring helps the under.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 3:13 PM ET #57

    Results from 5/5/2017

    CLE/KC: 8.0U -110 (5Dimes)          WIN (+1.0u)
    LAD/SD: 7.5U -115 (5Dimes)          LOSS (-1.15u)



    Year-To-Date

    Unfiltered System (5% ROI)
    April SDQL Record: 22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)
    May Actual Plays: 6
    -4-0 (+1.60u)


    Filtered System (13% ROI)
    May Actual Plays: 2-2-0 (-0.25u)
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    Results from 5/5/2017

    CLE/KC: 8.0U -110 (5Dimes)          WIN (+1.0u)
    LAD/SD: 7.5U -115 (5Dimes)          LOSS (-1.15u)



    Year-To-Date

    Unfiltered System (5% ROI)
    April SDQL Record: 22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)
    May Actual Plays: 6
    -4-0 (+1.60u)


    Filtered System (13% ROI)
    May Actual Plays: 2-2-0 (-0.25u)
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2017 - 5:51 PM ET #58

    Plays for 5/6

    Unfiltered System
    HOU/LAA currently 7.5U -120
    NYY/CHC currently 7.5U -110

    Sticking with my standard flat bet 1 unit for the rest of May, but if the home favorites show higher ROI the rest of this month, I'll switch to 2 units on those plays starting in June.
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    Plays for 5/6

    Unfiltered System
    HOU/LAA currently 7.5U -120
    NYY/CHC currently 7.5U -110

    Sticking with my standard flat bet 1 unit for the rest of May, but if the home favorites show higher ROI the rest of this month, I'll switch to 2 units on those plays starting in June.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2017 - 12:31 AM ET #59

    Results for 5/6/2017

    HOU/LAA 7.5U -120          WIN (+1.0u)
    NYY/CHC 7.5U -110          LOSS (-1.10u)



    Year-To-Date


    Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


    April SDQL Record:
    22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

    May Actual Plays:
    7
    -5-0 (+1.50u)


    Filtered System (13% ROI)

    May Actual Plays:
    2-2-0 (-0.25u)
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    Results for 5/6/2017

    HOU/LAA 7.5U -120          WIN (+1.0u)
    NYY/CHC 7.5U -110          LOSS (-1.10u)



    Year-To-Date


    Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


    April SDQL Record:
    22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

    May Actual Plays:
    7
    -5-0 (+1.50u)


    Filtered System (13% ROI)

    May Actual Plays:
    2-2-0 (-0.25u)
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2017 - 11:06 AM ET #60

    Possible UNDER Plays for 5/7/2017


    Filtered and Unfiltered

    SF/CIN:  Current total is 8.5 across all books. Needs to drop to 8.0 to be a play.


    Unfiltered Only

    HOU/LAA:  Current total is 8.5 across all books. Needs to drop to 8.0 to be a play.
    MIL/PIT:  Current total is 50/50 split between 8.0 and 8.5. Needs 8.0 to be a play.


    Going to be away from computer this morning, so won't be able to update before game time. If someone sees these fall into place,feel free to update here.
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    Possible UNDER Plays for 5/7/2017


    Filtered and Unfiltered

    SF/CIN:  Current total is 8.5 across all books. Needs to drop to 8.0 to be a play.


    Unfiltered Only

    HOU/LAA:  Current total is 8.5 across all books. Needs to drop to 8.0 to be a play.
    MIL/PIT:  Current total is 50/50 split between 8.0 and 8.5. Needs 8.0 to be a play.


    Going to be away from computer this morning, so won't be able to update before game time. If someone sees these fall into place,feel free to update here.
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2017 - 11:11 PM ET #61

    Results for 5/7/2017

    HOU/LAA 8.0U -115           PUSH
    MIL/PIT 8.0U +105            PUSH

    SF/CIN: Total stayed at 8.5, so no play.


    Year-To-Date


    Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


    April SDQL Record:
    22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

    May Actual Plays: 7-5-2 (+1.50u)


    Filtered System (13% ROI)


    May Actual Plays:
    2-2-0 (-0.25u)
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    Results for 5/7/2017

    HOU/LAA 8.0U -115           PUSH
    MIL/PIT 8.0U +105            PUSH

    SF/CIN: Total stayed at 8.5, so no play.


    Year-To-Date


    Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


    April SDQL Record:
    22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

    May Actual Plays: 7-5-2 (+1.50u)


    Filtered System (13% ROI)


    May Actual Plays:
    2-2-0 (-0.25u)
     
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    Posted: May. 7, 2017 - 11:21 PM ET #62

    Looks like I missed the NYY/CHC play today. Lester's 3.67 ERA fit the parameters after the total dropped from 7.5 to 7.0.

    I guess it was a lucky miss. The Cubs just scored three in the bottom of the 9th to tie the game 4-4.
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    Looks like I missed the NYY/CHC play today. Lester's 3.67 ERA fit the parameters after the total dropped from 7.5 to 7.0.

    I guess it was a lucky miss. The Cubs just scored three in the bottom of the 9th to tie the game 4-4.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 1:20 AM ET #63

    I played all 3 at 8.5. Good day. 
    Stay disciplined and manage your bankroll
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 1:16 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I played all 3 at 8.5. Good day. 

    Nice work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danrules24:

    I played all 3 at 8.5. Good day. 

    Nice work!
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 1:22 PM ET #65

    Potential Plays for 5/8/2017

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    SF/NYM: 7.0U
    Not a play at 7.5. Just dropped to 7.0.

    NYY/CIN: 8.0U
    At 8.5. Needs 8.0. Just dropped from 9.0.

    TEX/SD: 7.0U
    At 7.5. Needs 7.0.

    LAA/OAK: 7.5U
    At 8.0. Needs 7.5.

    STL/MIA: 7.5U
    At 8.0. Needs 7.5. Looks promising.

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    Potential Plays for 5/8/2017

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    SF/NYM: 7.0U
    Not a play at 7.5. Just dropped to 7.0.

    NYY/CIN: 8.0U
    At 8.5. Needs 8.0. Just dropped from 9.0.

    TEX/SD: 7.0U
    At 7.5. Needs 7.0.

    LAA/OAK: 7.5U
    At 8.0. Needs 7.5.

    STL/MIA: 7.5U
    At 8.0. Needs 7.5. Looks promising.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 7:00 PM ET #66

    Early Games

    Unfiltered

    SF/NYM:  Play 7.0U -105

    NYY/CIN:  No play. Total holding at 8.5. Need 8.0.
    STL/MIA:  No play. Total holding at 8.0. Need 7.5 or less (Martinez ERA is 3.75).


    Will update about late games soon.

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    Early Games

    Unfiltered

    SF/NYM:  Play 7.0U -105

    NYY/CIN:  No play. Total holding at 8.5. Need 8.0.
    STL/MIA:  No play. Total holding at 8.0. Need 7.5 or less (Martinez ERA is 3.75).


    Will update about late games soon.

     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 9:26 PM ET #67

    Late Games


    TEX/SD: NO PLAY.
         Total is stuck at 7.5, and we need 7.0 for a play (Cahill ERA 3.60).

    LAA/OAK: NO PLAY.
         Total is stuck at 8.0, and we need 7.5 for a play (Graveman ERA 3.95).
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    Late Games


    TEX/SD: NO PLAY.
         Total is stuck at 7.5, and we need 7.0 for a play (Cahill ERA 3.60).

    LAA/OAK: NO PLAY.
         Total is stuck at 8.0, and we need 7.5 for a play (Graveman ERA 3.95).
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2017 - 10:59 PM ET #68

    Results for 5/8/2017

    SF/NYM:  7.0U -105           PUSH


    Year-To-Date


    Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


    April SDQL Record:
    22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

    May Actual Plays: 7-5-3 (+1.50u)


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    SF/NYM:  7.0U -105           PUSH


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    April SDQL Record:
    22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

    May Actual Plays: 7-5-3 (+1.50u)


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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 11:05 AM ET #69

    5/9 - no plays on the early afternoon games.

    Will update about evening/night games in a couple hours.
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    Will update about evening/night games in a couple hours.
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 1:25 PM ET #70

    5/9 - Night Games

    Unfiltered System


    PLAY

    SF/NYM: 7.0U -110
    Any total from 6.5 to 8.0 is valid here.


    WAIT
    Decision closer to game time for these:

    LAA/OAK: Play if total looks to close at 8.0. Currently 8.5.

    STL/MIA: Play if total looks to close at 8.0. Currently 8.0, but trending 8.5.

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    5/9 - Night Games

    Unfiltered System


    PLAY

    SF/NYM: 7.0U -110
    Any total from 6.5 to 8.0 is valid here.


    WAIT
    Decision closer to game time for these:

    LAA/OAK: Play if total looks to close at 8.0. Currently 8.5.

    STL/MIA: Play if total looks to close at 8.0. Currently 8.0, but trending 8.5.

     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 6:56 PM ET #71

    5/9 - All Plays

    Unfiltered System

    SF/NYM: 7.0U -110
         Much better line now, but already locked in the -110 earlier.

    LAA/OAK: 8.0U +100
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    SF/NYM: 7.0U -110
         Much better line now, but already locked in the -110 earlier.

    LAA/OAK: 8.0U +100
     
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    Posted: May. 9, 2017 - 11:30 PM ET #72

    Results for 5/9/2017

    SF/NYM: 7.0U -110           PUSH

    LAA/OAK: 8.0U +100          LOSS (-1.0u)


    Year-To-Date


    Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


    April SDQL Record:
    22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

    May Actual Plays: 7-6-4 (+0.50u)


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    SF/NYM: 7.0U -110           PUSH

    LAA/OAK: 8.0U +100          LOSS (-1.0u)


    Year-To-Date


    Unfiltered System (5% ROI)


    April SDQL Record:
    22-8-0 (SDQL Profit = +13.05 units)

    May Actual Plays: 7-6-4 (+0.50u)


    Filtered System (13% ROI)


    May Actual Plays:
    2-2-0 (-0.25u)
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2017 - 11:57 AM ET #73

    Plays for 5/10

    Unfiltered System


    PLAY

    CLE/TOR: 8.0U
         Trending 7.5, so grab 8.0 if you can. Valid play at anything 8.0 or less.

    PIT/LAD: 7.5U
         Holding steady. Still valid play at 7.0 or 8.0.


    WAIT

    SF/NYM: 8.0U
         Trending 8.5. Valid play at 8.0 or less.

    KC/TB: 7.0U
         Currently 7.5, but trending 8.0. Valid play only at 7.0 or less due to Archer's 3.57 ERA.

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    Plays for 5/10

    Unfiltered System


    PLAY

    CLE/TOR: 8.0U
         Trending 7.5, so grab 8.0 if you can. Valid play at anything 8.0 or less.

    PIT/LAD: 7.5U
         Holding steady. Still valid play at 7.0 or 8.0.


    WAIT

    SF/NYM: 8.0U
         Trending 8.5. Valid play at 8.0 or less.

    KC/TB: 7.0U
         Currently 7.5, but trending 8.0. Valid play only at 7.0 or less due to Archer's 3.57 ERA.

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    Posted: May. 10, 2017 - 12:58 PM ET #74

    Passing on SF/NYM. Totals split between 8.0 and 8.5.
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    Posted: May. 10, 2017 - 6:38 PM ET #75

    Plays for 5/10 - FINAL

    Unfiltered System

    CLE/TOR: 8.0U -115
         Current total is 7.5, which is still valid.

    PIT/LAD: 7.5U -105
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    CLE/TOR: 8.0U -115
         Current total is 7.5, which is still valid.

    PIT/LAD: 7.5U -105
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