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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 11:49 AM ET #1726

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Quote Originally Posted by moneylog:

    Any pod for today?
     
    Thanks

      Rangers+124 ML

    SN, I have been attempting to handicap your picks each day and compare my results to yours.  Today I am not coming up with the same results for the Rangers game and was hoping you could shed some light on that pick for me.

    Is there a specific situational or statistical analysis that is giving you a strong lean on Texas?  I imagine Reineke's first start may have something to do with it, but if so I would have thought your play would be the 1st five innings as opposed to the game.

    What am I missing here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    Quote Originally Posted by moneylog:

    Any pod for today?
     
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      Rangers+124 ML

    SN, I have been attempting to handicap your picks each day and compare my results to yours.  Today I am not coming up with the same results for the Rangers game and was hoping you could shed some light on that pick for me.

    Is there a specific situational or statistical analysis that is giving you a strong lean on Texas?  I imagine Reineke's first start may have something to do with it, but if so I would have thought your play would be the 1st five innings as opposed to the game.

    What am I missing here?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 12:20 PM ET #1727

    Quote Originally Posted by UsaSurfer:

    SN, I have been attempting to handicap your picks each day and compare my results to yours.  Today I am not coming up with the same results for the Rangers game and was hoping you could shed some light on that pick for me.

    Is there a specific situational or statistical analysis that is giving you a strong lean on Texas?  I imagine Reineke's first start may have something to do with it, but if so I would have thought your play would be the 1st five innings as opposed to the game.

    What am I missing here?

    this game was capped purely on situational concept, based on a lack of Oaklands SP stats, and MLB experience on the mound, Padilla has consistently lowered his ERA over his last 7 starts, as is his strike out increase...taken in hand, last nights final results, and the Rangers dominance offensively, and of course +124 ML a perfect scenario for a DOG win, going a step farther, this game also fits the criteria of dog RL -1.5 @ +224 RL  WATCH FOR DRAMATIC LINE MOVEMENT ....

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UsaSurfer:

    SN, I have been attempting to handicap your picks each day and compare my results to yours.  Today I am not coming up with the same results for the Rangers game and was hoping you could shed some light on that pick for me.

    Is there a specific situational or statistical analysis that is giving you a strong lean on Texas?  I imagine Reineke's first start may have something to do with it, but if so I would have thought your play would be the 1st five innings as opposed to the game.

    What am I missing here?

    this game was capped purely on situational concept, based on a lack of Oaklands SP stats, and MLB experience on the mound, Padilla has consistently lowered his ERA over his last 7 starts, as is his strike out increase...taken in hand, last nights final results, and the Rangers dominance offensively, and of course +124 ML a perfect scenario for a DOG win, going a step farther, this game also fits the criteria of dog RL -1.5 @ +224 RL  WATCH FOR DRAMATIC LINE MOVEMENT ....

     

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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 1:22 PM ET #1728

    SN, Great insight, thanks.
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    SN, Great insight, thanks.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 1:26 PM ET #1729

    SN,

    My books have the 1st 5innning At/SD 3.5 would you still bet it?
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    SN,

    My books have the 1st 5innning At/SD 3.5 would you still bet it?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 1:40 PM ET #1730

    Sorry SN, my books have teh Ranger Favor now....
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    Sorry SN, my books have teh Ranger Favor now....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 2:21 PM ET #1731

    dH==
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkHorse21:



    The sabermetrics method, especially as used through RL plays, is unquestionably  valid and valuable.  And I backtracked the RL plays earlier -at 8 units a piece- for a large profit.

    However, if you can explain the bet sizing formula that has more recently been included, please do.  If, on the other hand, you can't explain how this formula works, then it is not, as you say, 'all there'. 

    What does each number in that formula stand for, and how does it apply to each bet for that day?

    Until that is made abundantly clear, I'm not quite ready to assume that sabermetrics expertise also translates into bet sizing expertise. 

    Respectfully,




    DH,

    As I understand it, there are 4 parts to this handicapping method:

    1.) Sabermetrics attached to MLB stats,
    2.) attached to Situational Analysis,
    3.) attached to applied Units,
    4.) attached to PAC symbol.

    The Position Adjusted Classification (PAC) formula provided for those 2 days already had the units attached to individual games. That is how those numbers came about...

    for example, on Sun, add up all the dog odds, that is where the +833 came form, the fav odds, -250 is the number...if you work backwards form that formula through the plays you can assign units.....and get the other numbers........294.1/(89.1+294.1)=76.7%

    GL MME





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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkHorse21:



    The sabermetrics method, especially as used through RL plays, is unquestionably  valid and valuable.  And I backtracked the RL plays earlier -at 8 units a piece- for a large profit.

    However, if you can explain the bet sizing formula that has more recently been included, please do.  If, on the other hand, you can't explain how this formula works, then it is not, as you say, 'all there'. 

    What does each number in that formula stand for, and how does it apply to each bet for that day?

    Until that is made abundantly clear, I'm not quite ready to assume that sabermetrics expertise also translates into bet sizing expertise. 

    Respectfully,




    DH,

    As I understand it, there are 4 parts to this handicapping method:

    1.) Sabermetrics attached to MLB stats,
    2.) attached to Situational Analysis,
    3.) attached to applied Units,
    4.) attached to PAC symbol.

    The Position Adjusted Classification (PAC) formula provided for those 2 days already had the units attached to individual games. That is how those numbers came about...

    for example, on Sun, add up all the dog odds, that is where the +833 came form, the fav odds, -250 is the number...if you work backwards form that formula through the plays you can assign units.....and get the other numbers........294.1/(89.1+294.1)=76.7%

    GL MME





     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 3:04 PM ET #1732

    MLB system releases Wed, August 5th, 2009 Base_Runs formula
     
    Mets+134 ML
    Astros-121 ML
    Phillies-152 ML
    RedSox+119 ML
    Rangers+124 ML
     
    Tigers+112 RL
     
    ATL/SD+110  UNDER 4  5innings
    FLA/WAS+112  UNDER 4.5  5innings
     
     
    eightPACformulated  (R&R initiated, and in effect)*
    projected ratio: 6/8  75%
     
     
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    *those sitting at the same table, please take the R&R formula in reference; with attachment to todays card.
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    MLB system releases Wed, August 5th, 2009 Base_Runs formula
     
    Mets+134 ML
    Astros-121 ML
    Phillies-152 ML
    RedSox+119 ML
    Rangers+124 ML
     
    Tigers+112 RL
     
    ATL/SD+110  UNDER 4  5innings
    FLA/WAS+112  UNDER 4.5  5innings
     
     
    eightPACformulated  (R&R initiated, and in effect)*
    projected ratio: 6/8  75%
     
     
    SN
     
    *those sitting at the same table, please take the R&R formula in reference; with attachment to todays card.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 3:21 PM ET #1733

    [+883/-250 (+533) [294.1 ^3^ 89.1 (205)] +76.7% / -23.2% (53.2)] 
     
    I was able to figure out the +833 and -250 numbers previously, but where did [294.1^3^89.1 (205)] come from?
     
    also, i assumed that the +76.7%/-23.2% (53.2) comes from the difference between 100% max and 76.7%, but where did 76.7% come from?
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    [+883/-250 (+533) [294.1 ^3^ 89.1 (205)] +76.7% / -23.2% (53.2)] 
     
    I was able to figure out the +833 and -250 numbers previously, but where did [294.1^3^89.1 (205)] come from?
     
    also, i assumed that the +76.7%/-23.2% (53.2) comes from the difference between 100% max and 76.7%, but where did 76.7% come from?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT3976:

    [+883/-250 (+533) [294.1 ^3^ 89.1 (205)] +76.7% / -23.2% (53.2)] 
     
    I was able to figure out the +833 and -250 numbers previously, but where did [294.1^3^89.1 (205)] come from?
     
    also, i assumed that the +76.7%/-23.2% (53.2) comes from the difference between 100% max and 76.7%, but where did 76.7% come from?

    Good question...it's derived from the (hidden) 383(294+89) then compounded into %'s] then decimaled minus to 53.2] the read then becomes substantial....best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT3976:

    [+883/-250 (+533) [294.1 ^3^ 89.1 (205)] +76.7% / -23.2% (53.2)] 
     
    I was able to figure out the +833 and -250 numbers previously, but where did [294.1^3^89.1 (205)] come from?
     
    also, i assumed that the +76.7%/-23.2% (53.2) comes from the difference between 100% max and 76.7%, but where did 76.7% come from?

    Good question...it's derived from the (hidden) 383(294+89) then compounded into %'s] then decimaled minus to 53.2] the read then becomes substantial....best regards

    SN

     
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    divide ^3^ into +883=294.1 ] into -250=89.1 ] 205 thus, becomes the difference. this is basic, depending on your comprehension level of math, and sheparding technique of applied formula's, you may continue for a more in-depth read, or accept the 'basic'..to continue:
     
    +883 becomes 8.83
    -250 becomes 2.50
    +533 stays 533 exclude + 
     294 becomes 29.4
     89 becomes 8.9
     205 stays the same
    +76.7%  becomes 7.6
    -23.2% becomes 2.3
    53.2 becomes 53.2%
     
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    divide ^3^ into +883=294.1 ] into -250=89.1 ] 205 thus, becomes the difference. this is basic, depending on your comprehension level of math, and sheparding technique of applied formula's, you may continue for a more in-depth read, or accept the 'basic'..to continue:
     
    +883 becomes 8.83
    -250 becomes 2.50
    +533 stays 533 exclude + 
     294 becomes 29.4
     89 becomes 8.9
     205 stays the same
    +76.7%  becomes 7.6
    -23.2% becomes 2.3
    53.2 becomes 53.2%
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 4:38 PM ET #1736

    RedSox+136 ML (line increase)
     
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     GL Kemosabe
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 5:43 PM ET #1738

    ApacheM  keep it tight[R&R in progression]
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 7:03 PM ET #1739

    pitching change in texas game - reineke in for dallas braden - line now at Texas -129.
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    pitching change in texas game - reineke in for dallas braden - line now at Texas -129.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2009 - 11:15 PM ET #1740

    picking the rangers without Cruz and without Kinsler makes alot of sense
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    picking the rangers without Cruz and without Kinsler makes alot of sense
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonr:

    picking the rangers without Cruz and without Kinsler makes alot of sense



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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonr:

    picking the rangers without Cruz and without Kinsler makes alot of sense



     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2009 - 12:11 AM ET #1742

    your stats and formulas are based on the Texas rangers with their 2 best hitters.  When those two hitters don't play you can't rely on the formulas to predict the outcome of the game
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    your stats and formulas are based on the Texas rangers with their 2 best hitters.  When those two hitters don't play you can't rely on the formulas to predict the outcome of the game
     
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    Well,  2 hours after game start..here you are again. Confrontational. Ready to prove others wrong.   Please refer to the entire thread to learn that it is not the formula that predicts the outcome of the game as you suggested.. If you read the thread then you would know that:

    1.) Sabermetrics attached to MLB stats,
    2.) attached to Situational Analysis,
    3.) attached to applied Units,
    4.) attached to PAC symbol.

     is the entire equation, and it seems you have just hit a single. You are not making friends here with your entrance into this thread.


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    Well,  2 hours after game start..here you are again. Confrontational. Ready to prove others wrong.   Please refer to the entire thread to learn that it is not the formula that predicts the outcome of the game as you suggested.. If you read the thread then you would know that:

    1.) Sabermetrics attached to MLB stats,
    2.) attached to Situational Analysis,
    3.) attached to applied Units,
    4.) attached to PAC symbol.

     is the entire equation, and it seems you have just hit a single. You are not making friends here with your entrance into this thread.


     
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    MME -     Know one can be that ignorant. What we have here is a S%#* stirrer. Go away little boy you are a nuisance. 
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by sports_Network]
    MLB system releases Wed, August 5th, 2009 Base_Runs formula
     
    Mets+134 ML...win
    Astros-121 ML...loss
    Phillies-152 ML...win
    RedSox+119 ML...loss
    Rangers+124 ML...scratched*
     
    Tigers+112 RL...win
     
    ATL/SD+110  UNDER 4  5innings...loss
    FLA/WAS+112  UNDER 4.5  5innings...loss
     
     
    eightPACformulated  (R&R initiated, and in effect)*
    projected ratio: 6/8  75%
     
     
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    *those sitting at the same table, please take the R&R formula in reference; with attachment to todays card.
     
     
     
    FINAL RESULTS:
    3-4
    units:+6.04
     
     
    * line reversal,(dog to favorite) a change in starting line-ups, the A's pre-game SP change, are all factors+ involved. understanding; the publishing was posted 8 hrs in advance for convenience, and documentation purposes..Their for, no play, no wager, no action applied...scratched from the final card...
     
     
     
    R&R status:-16units
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by sports_Network]
    MLB system releases Wed, August 5th, 2009 Base_Runs formula
     
    Mets+134 ML...win
    Astros-121 ML...loss
    Phillies-152 ML...win
    RedSox+119 ML...loss
    Rangers+124 ML...scratched*
     
    Tigers+112 RL...win
     
    ATL/SD+110  UNDER 4  5innings...loss
    FLA/WAS+112  UNDER 4.5  5innings...loss
     
     
    eightPACformulated  (R&R initiated, and in effect)*
    projected ratio: 6/8  75%
     
     
    SN
     
    *those sitting at the same table, please take the R&R formula in reference; with attachment to todays card.
     
     
     
    FINAL RESULTS:
    3-4
    units:+6.04
     
     
    * line reversal,(dog to favorite) a change in starting line-ups, the A's pre-game SP change, are all factors+ involved. understanding; the publishing was posted 8 hrs in advance for convenience, and documentation purposes..Their for, no play, no wager, no action applied...scratched from the final card...
     
     
     
    R&R status:-16units
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by shapati:

    pitching change in texas game - reineke in for dallas braden - line now at Texas -129.

    thx for the update info.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shapati:

    pitching change in texas game - reineke in for dallas braden - line now at Texas -129.

    thx for the update info.....

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