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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2011 - 6:28 PM ET #351

    My own on excel.  try SBR kelly calculator
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2011 - 10:27 PM ET #352

    Record 35-22-1

    Bankroll: 3,906

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    Bankroll: 3,906

     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2011 - 10:26 PM ET #353

    NCAAB

    Vanderbilt -3

    Risking 133 to win 120

    54% kelly wager

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    Vanderbilt -3

    Risking 133 to win 120

    54% kelly wager

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2011 - 10:28 AM ET #354

    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    NCAAB

    Vanderbilt -3

    Risking 133 to win 120

    54% kelly wager

    I smiled when I read this, cuz it's also one of my BOMBS today!

    Public loves the Spiders of Richmond, and that's fine by me! The public will throw so much money away today the books won't even care giving some back to the Sharps!

    Best of Luck to you throughout the Tournament mtp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtp104:

    NCAAB

    Vanderbilt -3

    Risking 133 to win 120

    54% kelly wager

    I smiled when I read this, cuz it's also one of my BOMBS today!

    Public loves the Spiders of Richmond, and that's fine by me! The public will throw so much money away today the books won't even care giving some back to the Sharps!

    Best of Luck to you throughout the Tournament mtp!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2011 - 4:07 PM ET #355

    Yeah the line is actually -2.5 which is typical after a line movement like that.  Better to be patient and let the line come back down sometimes. 
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    Yeah the line is actually -2.5 which is typical after a line movement like that.  Better to be patient and let the line come back down sometimes. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2011 - 10:48 PM ET #356

    Bankroll 3773

    Record 35-23-1

    Winning Percentage 60% still pretty good!  Tough month for sure!

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    Xavier -2.5

    Risking 207 to win 188

    55% Kelly wager

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    Winning Percentage 60% still pretty good!  Tough month for sure!

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    Xavier -2.5

    Risking 207 to win 188

    55% Kelly wager

     
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    Posted: Mar. 17, 2011 - 11:54 PM ET #357

    If it makes life easier 55% kelly wager is 5.5% of your bankroll. 

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    If it makes life easier 55% kelly wager is 5.5% of your bankroll. 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 2:47 AM ET #358

    Record 35-24-1

    Bankroll 3,566

    Winning Percentage 59%

     

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    Bankroll 3,566

    Winning Percentage 59%

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 11:30 AM ET #359

    NCAAB

    Florida Gators -5.5

    54% Kelly wager

    Risking 121 to win 109

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    Florida Gators -5.5

    54% Kelly wager

    Risking 121 to win 109

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 11:50 AM ET #360

    I just found this thread and would like to say, "Good job!" I've also been experimenting with various Kelly betting strategies for soccer on the Korean books and I also started a NBA Accuscore threadin the forums, testing Accuscore's plays for the month of March using a full Kelly betting criterion. It's been pretty successful hitting at a little over 60% at a 1.6X multiplier although  I'm not betting any real money and just testing it for now.

    Anyway, I wish you the best of luck and hope you grind it out and make a nice profit by the end of the year! I'll be checking on your thread periodically to see how you're doing. Even through the rough patches, stick it out and don't be deceived by the notion that you can get rich quick in this business!

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    I just found this thread and would like to say, "Good job!" I've also been experimenting with various Kelly betting strategies for soccer on the Korean books and I also started a NBA Accuscore threadin the forums, testing Accuscore's plays for the month of March using a full Kelly betting criterion. It's been pretty successful hitting at a little over 60% at a 1.6X multiplier although  I'm not betting any real money and just testing it for now.

    Anyway, I wish you the best of luck and hope you grind it out and make a nice profit by the end of the year! I'll be checking on your thread periodically to see how you're doing. Even through the rough patches, stick it out and don't be deceived by the notion that you can get rich quick in this business!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 1:07 PM ET #361

    hey outlaw i follow your plays and do very well ty for your hard work and plays i also follow mtp and do well keep up the great work guys maybe you cud work together and find a new system.. hey outlaw do u have any plays today?  mtp lets get this fla play!!!!!!
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    hey outlaw i follow your plays and do very well ty for your hard work and plays i also follow mtp and do well keep up the great work guys maybe you cud work together and find a new system.. hey outlaw do u have any plays today?  mtp lets get this fla play!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 3:06 PM ET #362

    I personally increased my wager to 5.5% of my bankroll when it went to gators -5
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    I personally increased my wager to 5.5% of my bankroll when it went to gators -5
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 6:22 PM ET #363

    nice plays !!!! youve been winning me some $$$ i just labby your plays on a nice chase system its amazing lol
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    nice plays !!!! youve been winning me some $$$ i just labby your plays on a nice chase system its amazing lol
     
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    Posted: Mar. 19, 2011 - 10:21 PM ET #364

    Bankroll: 3,675

    Record 36-24-1

     

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    Bankroll: 3,675

    Record 36-24-1

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 12:14 PM ET #365

    NCAAB

    Michigan +12.5

    Risking 202 to win 183

    55% Kelly wager

    Line might even get higher.  Vegas new people would pound Duke in this matchup.  Value clearly sides with Michigan.  Wolverines are playing good ball and I expect them to be ready for this game. 

    SHOCK THE WORLD BOYS!!!! 

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    NCAAB

    Michigan +12.5

    Risking 202 to win 183

    55% Kelly wager

    Line might even get higher.  Vegas new people would pound Duke in this matchup.  Value clearly sides with Michigan.  Wolverines are playing good ball and I expect them to be ready for this game. 

    SHOCK THE WORLD BOYS!!!! 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 20, 2011 - 5:05 PM ET #366

    Bankrol l 3858

    Record 37-24-1

    What a freaking game Michigan almost SHOCKED THE WORLD!!!

    Another good win!

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    Bankrol l 3858

    Record 37-24-1

    What a freaking game Michigan almost SHOCKED THE WORLD!!!

    Another good win!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 22, 2011 - 2:44 PM ET #367

    NCAAB

    Duke -8.5

    53.5% Kelly wager

    91 to win 82

     

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    Duke -8.5

    53.5% Kelly wager

    91 to win 82

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 23, 2011 - 6:22 PM ET #368

    NBA tonite

    Milwaukee -8.5

    53.5 kelly wager

    91 to win 82

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    NBA tonite

    Milwaukee -8.5

    53.5 kelly wager

    91 to win 82

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2011 - 3:24 AM ET #369

    How come your bets have dropped?  I understood the basic maths before about % of your bankroll but 5.35% of somewhere around $4K is clearly not 91?

    I may start tailing your bets from now, enjoying the March Madness
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    How come your bets have dropped?  I understood the basic maths before about % of your bankroll but 5.35% of somewhere around $4K is clearly not 91?

    I may start tailing your bets from now, enjoying the March Madness
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2011 - 12:07 PM ET #370

    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington:

    How come your bets have dropped?  I understood the basic maths before about % of your bankroll but 5.35% of somewhere around $4K is clearly not 91?
    I would like to think Im conservative!  53.5% is my expected win percentage for that particular game.  Essentially its a lower value game.  A stronger play is 55% or even 57% which I initially stated.  I am still learning from this and as this thread grows so will my knowledge.  I bet according to my expected win percentage!  The last month I have been cold!  Just staying afloat.  I will remain to be selective.  Baseball will be a huge ? for me because of the odds so many times the bets will be lower because of the juice.  For example, if I played a game in baseball that was -140 odds I would need to expect it to hit 59% of the time for it even to be a play.  The more juice the less value as everyone knows.  I'm just having fun right now and excited for the future.  I hope everyone is doing well and winning!  Remember as I tell myself everyday MONEY MANAGEMENT!  Their is always tomorrow! 
    I may start tailing your bets from now, enjoying the March Madness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington:

    How come your bets have dropped?  I understood the basic maths before about % of your bankroll but 5.35% of somewhere around $4K is clearly not 91?
    I would like to think Im conservative!  53.5% is my expected win percentage for that particular game.  Essentially its a lower value game.  A stronger play is 55% or even 57% which I initially stated.  I am still learning from this and as this thread grows so will my knowledge.  I bet according to my expected win percentage!  The last month I have been cold!  Just staying afloat.  I will remain to be selective.  Baseball will be a huge ? for me because of the odds so many times the bets will be lower because of the juice.  For example, if I played a game in baseball that was -140 odds I would need to expect it to hit 59% of the time for it even to be a play.  The more juice the less value as everyone knows.  I'm just having fun right now and excited for the future.  I hope everyone is doing well and winning!  Remember as I tell myself everyday MONEY MANAGEMENT!  Their is always tomorrow! 
    I may start tailing your bets from now, enjoying the March Madness
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2011 - 12:12 PM ET #371

    I lean with San Diego State.  I really think their is some good value their!  This is not officially a play.  I got the day off and will be back later on today with a possible play! 

    GO BLUE!!!

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    I lean with San Diego State.  I really think their is some good value their!  This is not officially a play.  I got the day off and will be back later on today with a possible play! 

    GO BLUE!!!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2011 - 11:00 PM ET #372

    mtp... great stuff... quick question... how do you determine what the percentage of a game is... for example the xavier game was 55% and the duke game was something like 53.5%... how do you come up with those percentages? maybe I'm missed it earlier in the thread, but if you could shed some light on those percentages and how you come up with them, I would appreciate it...
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    mtp... great stuff... quick question... how do you determine what the percentage of a game is... for example the xavier game was 55% and the duke game was something like 53.5%... how do you come up with those percentages? maybe I'm missed it earlier in the thread, but if you could shed some light on those percentages and how you come up with them, I would appreciate it...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2011 - 12:38 AM ET #373

    Bankroll 3,678

    Record 36-26-1

    +1678

    Tough Month

    Win Percentage is based off a line I set for a game or event.  It increases when my analysis is in agreeance with other handicappers I follow which is a rare instance.  Many other things go into a pick and whether you look at it as 55% winning percentage or 5.5% of your bankroll I will remain consistant and hopefully go on a nice win streak here soon.  I do not do this for a living and bet sports for a hobby.  I'm learning everyday just like the next average joe.  I do not tout myself!  I am the average Joe with a good head on his shoulders trying to beat the odds!  I've read numerous articles and the kelly criterion and it seems to be the only way to beat the books in the long run.  I am going to give this my best shot and hopefully I'll succeed.  So far I've had some success and am hitting a a pretty solid clip.  Variance has definately taken over this past month even with the small amount of plays.  Good luck time for bed!!!! 

     

     

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    +1678

    Tough Month

    Win Percentage is based off a line I set for a game or event.  It increases when my analysis is in agreeance with other handicappers I follow which is a rare instance.  Many other things go into a pick and whether you look at it as 55% winning percentage or 5.5% of your bankroll I will remain consistant and hopefully go on a nice win streak here soon.  I do not do this for a living and bet sports for a hobby.  I'm learning everyday just like the next average joe.  I do not tout myself!  I am the average Joe with a good head on his shoulders trying to beat the odds!  I've read numerous articles and the kelly criterion and it seems to be the only way to beat the books in the long run.  I am going to give this my best shot and hopefully I'll succeed.  So far I've had some success and am hitting a a pretty solid clip.  Variance has definately taken over this past month even with the small amount of plays.  Good luck time for bed!!!! 

     

     

     
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    I wanted to add I do not feel like I have a good grasp of these NCAA Lines at all.  Not going to force a play not very happy with the previous to nights glad these played only checked in at a low percentage!  Back to work tomorrow. 

    GO BLUE!!!

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    I wanted to add I do not feel like I have a good grasp of these NCAA Lines at all.  Not going to force a play not very happy with the previous to nights glad these played only checked in at a low percentage!  Back to work tomorrow. 

    GO BLUE!!!

     
     
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    NCAAB

    Kentucky +6.5 at BETED

    53.5 Kelly wager 

    86 to win 77

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    Kentucky +6.5 at BETED

    53.5 Kelly wager 

    86 to win 77

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