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    Don't chase system for MLB

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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 2:33 AM ET #101

    Summary since we started:

    All playable matched pairs are 177-34 win% = 84% which is just about the average for last year.

    Our matched pairs are 72-10 for a win% = almost 88% so we're still hitting above the average.

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    Summary since we started:

    All playable matched pairs are 177-34 win% = 84% which is just about the average for last year.

    Our matched pairs are 72-10 for a win% = almost 88% so we're still hitting above the average.

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 2:36 AM ET #102

    One last thing for tonite. I've noticed that a lot of chase systems are getting hammered lately in baseball. This is why I don't do chases based on a specific team. STL killed those systems this week. They got swept as big favorites in every game.
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    One last thing for tonite. I've noticed that a lot of chase systems are getting hammered lately in baseball. This is why I don't do chases based on a specific team. STL killed those systems this week. They got swept as big favorites in every game.
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 11:38 AM ET #103

    i only played the last two game of the st louis series and still took a nice hit... there has been way to many sweeps this year in mlb so now im with you kirby on this sysstem lets do this
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    i only played the last two game of the st louis series and still took a nice hit... there has been way to many sweeps this year in mlb so now im with you kirby on this sysstem lets do this
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 12:24 PM ET #104

    First play to clear the 20-25 line:

    BOS  RL +125  50/62.50   DET  +120  50/60

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    First play to clear the 20-25 line:

    BOS  RL +125  50/62.50   DET  +120  50/60

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 12:28 PM ET #105

    The rest:

    NYM  +120  20/24  FLA RL +150  20/30

    CHW RL +120  20/24  KC  +125  20/25

    HOU +130  20/26   SF RL +150  20/30

    MIN +155  20/31   NYY RL +110  20/22

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    The rest:

    NYM  +120  20/24  FLA RL +150  20/30

    CHW RL +120  20/24  KC  +125  20/25

    HOU +130  20/26   SF RL +150  20/30

    MIN +155  20/31   NYY RL +110  20/22

     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 10:11 PM ET #106

    BOS clears the leftover line for us.  Bank = 2316.25
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    BOS clears the leftover line for us.  Bank = 2316.25
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 10:36 PM ET #107

    Kirby... i don't follow how Boston cleared that line  cos although you won $62.50 with boston ..you lost $50 with Detroit... therefore only profitting $12.50 ..not the $45 required to clear the line...what am I missing ?..
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    Kirby... i don't follow how Boston cleared that line  cos although you won $62.50 with boston ..you lost $50 with Detroit... therefore only profitting $12.50 ..not the $45 required to clear the line...what am I missing ?..
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2010 - 11:25 PM ET #108

    You're right neilsy, the way I'm using the line, clearing it doesn't mean that it recoups the money lost on the previous bet. I'm just using it as a way of keeping track of what I should be betting on any given day. I'm looking at the whole line as a series of bets and the profitablility of clearing the line comes from winning a very large percentage of the bets over the life of the line. This line that BOS just cleared for me, for example, started on 5/12. To clear this line required 11 games in which i went 9-2. This was a pretty poor performing series but over the life of the line I made 15.50 or .7% on the Bank in 2 days. The previous line was also a 2-day event and it took 9 games to clear at 8-1. Profit from that series was 93.00 or 4.2% on the Bank in 2 days. So you can see the variance of these series of games that I bet. I envision one of these particularly nasty series to clear the line with a loss, but that's the trade off for not having to put out 10x the normal bet amount just to recoup the previous loser. It's a grind, but I think at a greatly reduced risk. The chances of hitting two losing games back-to-back are small at a little over 3% but if you do happen to get hit you're finished. Hitting two losers back-to-back here, while damaging, doesn't put us out of the ball game.
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    You're right neilsy, the way I'm using the line, clearing it doesn't mean that it recoups the money lost on the previous bet. I'm just using it as a way of keeping track of what I should be betting on any given day. I'm looking at the whole line as a series of bets and the profitablility of clearing the line comes from winning a very large percentage of the bets over the life of the line. This line that BOS just cleared for me, for example, started on 5/12. To clear this line required 11 games in which i went 9-2. This was a pretty poor performing series but over the life of the line I made 15.50 or .7% on the Bank in 2 days. The previous line was also a 2-day event and it took 9 games to clear at 8-1. Profit from that series was 93.00 or 4.2% on the Bank in 2 days. So you can see the variance of these series of games that I bet. I envision one of these particularly nasty series to clear the line with a loss, but that's the trade off for not having to put out 10x the normal bet amount just to recoup the previous loser. It's a grind, but I think at a greatly reduced risk. The chances of hitting two losing games back-to-back are small at a little over 3% but if you do happen to get hit you're finished. Hitting two losers back-to-back here, while damaging, doesn't put us out of the ball game.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 12:31 AM ET #109

    thanks for the explanation .. i see now..i agree with you.. losing 2 games back to back although only 3% ,,will inevitably happen ... good luck !

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    thanks for the explanation .. i see now..i agree with you.. losing 2 games back to back although only 3% ,,will inevitably happen ... good luck !

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 1:39 AM ET #110

    Swept the board tonite. Line looks like this:

    10-10-10-10   Bank = 2343.25

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    Swept the board tonite. Line looks like this:

    10-10-10-10   Bank = 2343.25

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 2:43 AM ET #111

    One early game tomorrow already:

    TEX +125  20/25  TOR RL +140  20/28

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    One early game tomorrow already:

    TEX +125  20/25  TOR RL +140  20/28

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 2:47 PM ET #112

    Rest of today:

    NYM +115  20/23   FLA RL +160  20/32

    WAS +140  20/28   COL RL +130  20/26

    CLE +130  20/26  BAL RL +145  20/29

    OAK +130  20/26   LAA RL +145  20/29

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    Rest of today:

    NYM +115  20/23   FLA RL +160  20/32

    WAS +140  20/28   COL RL +130  20/26

    CLE +130  20/26  BAL RL +145  20/29

    OAK +130  20/26   LAA RL +145  20/29

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 3:18 PM ET #113

    One more:

    PHI RL +140  20/28  MIL +105 20/21

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    One more:

    PHI RL +140  20/28  MIL +105 20/21

     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 5:02 PM ET #114

    So you play all games that fit the parameters on any given day? Regardless of how many games your labby line tells you to play?
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    So you play all games that fit the parameters on any given day? Regardless of how many games your labby line tells you to play?
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 5:13 PM ET #115

    That is mostly correct. There have been days that I've limited the amount of plays to what the Labby line dictates, but this is evolving a little and the strength of this is in numbers of plays. We can only clear a line on a zero loss day however.
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    That is mostly correct. There have been days that I've limited the amount of plays to what the Labby line dictates, but this is evolving a little and the strength of this is in numbers of plays. We can only clear a line on a zero loss day however.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 9:46 PM ET #116

    You can always count on the BAL bullpen to give up a few.
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    You can always count on the BAL bullpen to give up a few.
     
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    Posted: May. 15, 2010 - 10:52 PM ET #117

    4-1 on the pairs tonite. We had a no action on the pitching change in the OAK/LAA game. Lost $6.  Bank = 2337.25  Line is:

    20-20   Will need one game to clear it tomorrow and the rest will go on a new line.

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    4-1 on the pairs tonite. We had a no action on the pitching change in the OAK/LAA game. Lost $6.  Bank = 2337.25  Line is:

    20-20   Will need one game to clear it tomorrow and the rest will go on a new line.

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2010 - 11:49 AM ET #118

    FIrst game:

    MIN +125  40/50    NYY +145  40/58

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    FIrst game:

    MIN +125  40/50    NYY +145  40/58

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2010 - 11:54 AM ET #119

    four more for the new line:

    CHW RL +150  20/30   KC RL +170  20/34   Both RL's

    OAK +140  20/28   LAA RL +130  20/26

    BOS RL + 130  20/26   DET +115  20/23

    HOU +155  20/31  SF RL +130  20/26

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    four more for the new line:

    CHW RL +150  20/30   KC RL +170  20/34   Both RL's

    OAK +140  20/28   LAA RL +130  20/26

    BOS RL + 130  20/26   DET +115  20/23

    HOU +155  20/31  SF RL +130  20/26

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2010 - 11:33 PM ET #120

    MIN clears for us and we go 3-1 on the new line. Line goes to:

    20-10-10-10-10-10-10-20   BANK=2330.25

    Sure would be nice to win 4 in a row tomorrow.

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    MIN clears for us and we go 3-1 on the new line. Line goes to:

    20-10-10-10-10-10-10-20   BANK=2330.25

    Sure would be nice to win 4 in a row tomorrow.

     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 2:32 PM ET #121

    5 plays today:

    PIT +190  40/76   PHI RL +100   50/50

    AZ +135  40/54  FLA RL +140  40/56

    MIN RL +145  40/58  TOR +105  40/42

    KC +115  40/46  BAL RL (+155) parlayed to over 9 (-120)  20/73.50

    CHW +130  40/52  DET RL +145  40/58

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    5 plays today:

    PIT +190  40/76   PHI RL +100   50/50

    AZ +135  40/54  FLA RL +140  40/56

    MIN RL +145  40/58  TOR +105  40/42

    KC +115  40/46  BAL RL (+155) parlayed to over 9 (-120)  20/73.50

    CHW +130  40/52  DET RL +145  40/58

     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2010 - 10:34 PM ET #122

    4-0  today.  Finally, a sweep. Line resets to:

    10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10

    BANK = 2378.25 

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    4-0  today.  Finally, a sweep. Line resets to:

    10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10-10

    BANK = 2378.25 

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 11:22 AM ET #123

    early games:

    MIL +120  40/48   CIN RL +150  40/60

    CLE +230  20/46  TB RL-120  40/33

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    early games:

    MIL +120  40/48   CIN RL +150  40/60

    CLE +230  20/46  TB RL-120  40/33

     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 11:23 AM ET #124

    Cut the bets for MIL/CIN in half should be 20 for both. 20/24  20/30
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    Cut the bets for MIL/CIN in half should be 20 for both. 20/24  20/30
     
     
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    Posted: May. 18, 2010 - 12:11 PM ET #125

    one more early game:

    CHW +125  20/25  DET RL +150  20/30

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    one more early game:

    CHW +125  20/25  DET RL +150  20/30

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