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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2009 - 12:55 AM ET #51

    REDDOG.... GOOD WORK
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2009 - 3:51 PM ET #52

    , great job, keep it that way!
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    , great job, keep it that way!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2009 - 4:08 PM ET #53

    Any picks for tonight Calin?
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    Any picks for tonight Calin?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2009 - 4:12 PM ET #54

    Of course, but tonight I'll pick only from NCAAB games. There are only 3 NBA games and I didn't find anything.
    I'll post the picks for NCAAB in about one hour and a half.
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    Of course, but tonight I'll pick only from NCAAB games. There are only 3 NBA games and I didn't find anything.
    I'll post the picks for NCAAB in about one hour and a half.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2009 - 5:47 PM ET #55

    Tonight picks (only NCAAB):
     

    citdl-appst over 136

    sam-furm over 114.5

    but-det over 117

    clest-illch over 127

    midtn-den over 119

    webst-nocol over 138.5

    sclar-sd over 115.5

    pac-ucriv over 115

    wgton-cal under 152

    frsno-hav over 132
     
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    Tonight picks (only NCAAB):
     

    citdl-appst over 136

    sam-furm over 114.5

    but-det over 117

    clest-illch over 127

    midtn-den over 119

    webst-nocol over 138.5

    sclar-sd over 115.5

    pac-ucriv over 115

    wgton-cal under 152

    frsno-hav over 132
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2009 - 6:27 PM ET #56

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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 12:07 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by calinreddog:

    Tonight picks (only NCAAB):
     

    citdl-appst over 136

    sam-furm over 114.5

    but-det over 117

    clest-illch over 127

    midtn-den over 119

    webst-nocol over 138.5

    sclar-sd over 115.5

    pac-ucriv over 115

    wgton-cal under 152

    frsno-hav over 132
     

    I am 8-1 right now and still have one more left to play (frsno-hav).

    I'd love to make it 9-1...

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    Quote Originally Posted by calinreddog:

    Tonight picks (only NCAAB):
     

    citdl-appst over 136

    sam-furm over 114.5

    but-det over 117

    clest-illch over 127

    midtn-den over 119

    webst-nocol over 138.5

    sclar-sd over 115.5

    pac-ucriv over 115

    wgton-cal under 152

    frsno-hav over 132
     

    I am 8-1 right now and still have one more left to play (frsno-hav).

    I'd love to make it 9-1...

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 12:44 AM ET #58

    REDDOG:    """" you deserve all the credit in the world '''''''''''
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    REDDOG:    """" you deserve all the credit in the world '''''''''''
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 12:58 AM ET #59

    REDDOG: You are the MAN.......one small ???
     
                     mts-den 51+63=114
     
                     wash-cal 71+86=157
     
     
                    i am not trying to diminish your accomplishment
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    REDDOG: You are the MAN.......one small ???
     
                     mts-den 51+63=114
     
                     wash-cal 71+86=157
     
     
                    i am not trying to diminish your accomplishment
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 1:12 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by robomotion:

    REDDOG: You are the MAN.......one small ???
     
                     mts-den 51+63=114
     
                     wash-cal 71+86=157
     
     
                    i am not trying to diminish your accomplishment

    Yes, you're right, sorry.

    I was expecting to hit 6 out of 10 and I was just going to write to you that my capping method does 60% of the job and the rest is up to Lady Luck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by robomotion:

    REDDOG: You are the MAN.......one small ???
     
                     mts-den 51+63=114
     
                     wash-cal 71+86=157
     
     
                    i am not trying to diminish your accomplishment

    Yes, you're right, sorry.

    I was expecting to hit 6 out of 10 and I was just going to write to you that my capping method does 60% of the job and the rest is up to Lady Luck...

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 1:22 AM ET #61

    So:
     

    citdl-appst over 136 74-72

    sam-furm over 114.5 57-63

    but-det over 117 66-61

    clest-illch over 127 66-63

    midtn-den over 119 51-63

    webst-nocol over 138.5 82-76

    sclar-sd over 115.5 64-62

    pac-ucriv over 115 63-66

    wgton-cal under 152 71-86

    frsno-hav over 132 halftime 10-34
     
    7-3 win-loss
    Overall record: NBA 15-10 (60%) NCAAB 45-24 (65.2%)
     
     
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    So:
     

    citdl-appst over 136 74-72

    sam-furm over 114.5 57-63

    but-det over 117 66-61

    clest-illch over 127 66-63

    midtn-den over 119 51-63

    webst-nocol over 138.5 82-76

    sclar-sd over 115.5 64-62

    pac-ucriv over 115 63-66

    wgton-cal under 152 71-86

    frsno-hav over 132 halftime 10-34
     
    7-3 win-loss
    Overall record: NBA 15-10 (60%) NCAAB 45-24 (65.2%)
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 1:22 AM ET #62

    DOG: bless you for your hard work and honesty about the rest is....
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    DOG: bless you for your hard work and honesty about the rest is....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 1:24 AM ET #63

                 BEDTIME...........
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 1:26 AM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by robomotion:

    DOG: bless you for your hard work and honesty about the rest is....

    Thank you, I hope to keep it over 60%.

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    DOG: bless you for your hard work and honesty about the rest is....

    Thank you, I hope to keep it over 60%.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 1:27 AM ET #65

     I SEE THE SCORE BUT IT IS NOT FINAL TIL ITS FINAL G.N.
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     I SEE THE SCORE BUT IT IS NOT FINAL TIL ITS FINAL G.N.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 9:48 AM ET #66

    Calin,
     
    Have you finished tweaking you model?  Do you mind sharing your spreadsheet?
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    Calin,
     
    Have you finished tweaking you model?  Do you mind sharing your spreadsheet?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 10:19 AM ET #67

    Good work!
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    Good work!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 10:44 AM ET #68

    Calin

    Is this the method you use to get the totals????

    For the BOS/PHI game:
     
                 Points For      Points Against
    BOS       101.3                  91.4
    PHI         96.4                   95.8
    TOT        197.7                  187.2
     
    off / def = 197.7/187.2 = 1.056
     
    total projected = 197.7 * 1.056 = 208.79 (you have shown above 194)
     
    Another example for the defensive side the Milwuakee New Jersey Game:
     
                 Points For      Points Against
    MIL          98.3                   98.1
    NJN         97.9                   101
    TOT        196.2                  199.1
     
    off / def = 196.2/199.1 = 0.985
     
    total projected = 199.1 * 0.985 = 196.2 (you have shown above 186)


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    Calin

    Is this the method you use to get the totals????

    For the BOS/PHI game:
     
                 Points For      Points Against
    BOS       101.3                  91.4
    PHI         96.4                   95.8
    TOT        197.7                  187.2
     
    off / def = 197.7/187.2 = 1.056
     
    total projected = 197.7 * 1.056 = 208.79 (you have shown above 194)
     
    Another example for the defensive side the Milwuakee New Jersey Game:
     
                 Points For      Points Against
    MIL          98.3                   98.1
    NJN         97.9                   101
    TOT        196.2                  199.1
     
    off / def = 196.2/199.1 = 0.985
     
    total projected = 199.1 * 0.985 = 196.2 (you have shown above 186)


     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 12:19 PM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by jbrent95:

    Calin,
     
    Have you finished tweaking you model?  Do you mind sharing your spreadsheet?

    There's no need for a spreadsheet.

    Just add the numbers and use your logic when comparing them.

    The key to good under play is basically the defensive number and the key to good over plays are both offensive and defensive. There's no strict rule about differences. For NCAAB especially the differences become significant as a percentage of the total set by the bookie. Add the smallest numbers and the biggest numbers, compare them with the total line and draw a conclusion. Based on the differences found are you willing to risk an amount of money on that?

    Sorry, but there's no strict rule or complicated spreadsheet to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrent95:

    Calin,
     
    Have you finished tweaking you model?  Do you mind sharing your spreadsheet?

    There's no need for a spreadsheet.

    Just add the numbers and use your logic when comparing them.

    The key to good under play is basically the defensive number and the key to good over plays are both offensive and defensive. There's no strict rule about differences. For NCAAB especially the differences become significant as a percentage of the total set by the bookie. Add the smallest numbers and the biggest numbers, compare them with the total line and draw a conclusion. Based on the differences found are you willing to risk an amount of money on that?

    Sorry, but there's no strict rule or complicated spreadsheet to do that.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 12:21 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by butta01:

    Calin

    Is this the method you use to get the totals????

    For the BOS/PHI game:
     
                 Points For      Points Against
    BOS       101.3                  91.4
    PHI         96.4                   95.8
    TOT        197.7                  187.2
     
    off / def = 197.7/187.2 = 1.056
     
    total projected = 197.7 * 1.056 = 208.79 (you have shown above 194)
     
    Another example for the defensive side the Milwuakee New Jersey Game:
     
                 Points For      Points Against
    MIL          98.3                   98.1
    NJN         97.9                   101
    TOT        196.2                  199.1
     
    off / def = 196.2/199.1 = 0.985
     
    total projected = 199.1 * 0.985 = 196.2 (you have shown above 186)


    No I don't use that anymore.

    Take a look at my post above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butta01:

    Calin

    Is this the method you use to get the totals????

    For the BOS/PHI game:
     
                 Points For      Points Against
    BOS       101.3                  91.4
    PHI         96.4                   95.8
    TOT        197.7                  187.2
     
    off / def = 197.7/187.2 = 1.056
     
    total projected = 197.7 * 1.056 = 208.79 (you have shown above 194)
     
    Another example for the defensive side the Milwuakee New Jersey Game:
     
                 Points For      Points Against
    MIL          98.3                   98.1
    NJN         97.9                   101
    TOT        196.2                  199.1
     
    off / def = 196.2/199.1 = 0.985
     
    total projected = 199.1 * 0.985 = 196.2 (you have shown above 186)


    No I don't use that anymore.

    Take a look at my post above.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrent95:

    Calin,
     
    Have you finished tweaking you model?  Do you mind sharing your spreadsheet?

    Let's take a look at tor-no tonight, total line set at 185. Take the four numbers (points for and against for both teams) and arrange starting with the smallest number and finishing with the biggest. Something like that:

    91.0   95.4   96.2   100.2

    Add the smallest 91.0+95.4=186.4-185=1.4

    Add the biggest 96.2+100.2=196.2-185=11.2

    If we add the 2 differences 1.4+11.2=12.6 points over the total line, that's kind of 6.8% over the line. A small difference but I consider it enough to risk 1 unit on over, so I'll take over 185.

    Avoid games of rivalry or games where there are strong motivational factors involved. Avoid extremely high totals (set around 230).

    No spreadsheet needed.

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    Calin,
     
    Have you finished tweaking you model?  Do you mind sharing your spreadsheet?

    Let's take a look at tor-no tonight, total line set at 185. Take the four numbers (points for and against for both teams) and arrange starting with the smallest number and finishing with the biggest. Something like that:

    91.0   95.4   96.2   100.2

    Add the smallest 91.0+95.4=186.4-185=1.4

    Add the biggest 96.2+100.2=196.2-185=11.2

    If we add the 2 differences 1.4+11.2=12.6 points over the total line, that's kind of 6.8% over the line. A small difference but I consider it enough to risk 1 unit on over, so I'll take over 185.

    Avoid games of rivalry or games where there are strong motivational factors involved. Avoid extremely high totals (set around 230).

    No spreadsheet needed.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 2:41 PM ET #72

    Tonight picks:
     
    NBA

    atl-cha over 179.5

    tor-no over 183

    lac-mem under 203

    uta-sac under 215

    den-was under 205.5

    NCAAB

    fairf-can over 129.5

    colu-pen over 130

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    Tonight picks:
     
    NBA

    atl-cha over 179.5

    tor-no over 183

    lac-mem under 203

    uta-sac under 215

    den-was under 205.5

    NCAAB

    fairf-can over 129.5

    colu-pen over 130

     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 3:33 PM ET #73

    using your previous strategy im getting the same totals you have posted so there is not much of a difference its only an easier way to get the totals.
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    using your previous strategy im getting the same totals you have posted so there is not much of a difference its only an easier way to get the totals.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 4:17 PM ET #74

     
     
    Calin,
     
    I created a spreadsheet for your sysem.  The data can be updated from ESPN or Covers website with a copy and paste. Let me know what you think.
     
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pk0RLfax3LqNpzjYf17WNEg
     
     
     
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    Calin,
     
    I created a spreadsheet for your sysem.  The data can be updated from ESPN or Covers website with a copy and paste. Let me know what you think.
     
    https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pk0RLfax3LqNpzjYf17WNEg
     
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 6, 2009 - 8:07 PM ET #75

    REDDOG: away for weekend. i will be checking in.
     
                    best of luck..always
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    REDDOG: away for weekend. i will be checking in.
     
                    best of luck..always
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