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    Washington at Philadelphia (09/21/2014)

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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 1:22 AM ET #1

    Away:  Washington [1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [2-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Washington:
    Passing: Robert Griffin III (305)
    Rushing: Alfred Morris (176)
    Receiving: Niles Paul (185)

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Nick Foles (653)
    Rushing: LeSean McCoy (153)
    Receiving: Darren Sproles (166)

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    Away:  Washington [1-1 ATS]
    Home:  Philadelphia [2-0 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Lincoln Financial Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Washington:
    Passing: Robert Griffin III (305)
    Rushing: Alfred Morris (176)
    Receiving: Niles Paul (185)

    Philadelphia:
    Passing: Nick Foles (653)
    Rushing: LeSean McCoy (153)
    Receiving: Darren Sproles (166)

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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 2:15 AM ET #2

    EVERYONE going to love Phi, not me i like the points also might like me some ML on WAS!!
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    EVERYONE going to love Phi, not me i like the points also might like me some ML on WAS!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2014 - 4:41 PM ET #3

    Division game on short week coming off a big road win on MNF...take the points.  Orapko and Kerrigan gonna give patchwork O-Line problems for Eagles.  Hopefully they can still pull out the win.
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    Division game on short week coming off a big road win on MNF...take the points.  Orapko and Kerrigan gonna give patchwork O-Line problems for Eagles.  Hopefully they can still pull out the win.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2014 - 11:38 AM ET #4

    Washington for me as well.. Philly has had some slow starts in their last two games.. Eventually it's going to bite them.. Or will the opposite happen and Philly starts out fast and keeps it up the whole game??.. I actually think Cousins is better in this offense then RG3, much more accurate from the pocket.. I think they get the win..
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    Washington for me as well.. Philly has had some slow starts in their last two games.. Eventually it's going to bite them.. Or will the opposite happen and Philly starts out fast and keeps it up the whole game??.. I actually think Cousins is better in this offense then RG3, much more accurate from the pocket.. I think they get the win..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2014 - 1:49 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrill:

    Division game on short week coming off a big road win on MNF...take the points.  Orapko and Kerrigan gonna give patchwork O-Line problems for Eagles.  Hopefully they can still pull out the win.

    You misspelled Dexter Manley, oh that's right, you can't spell, because you are from Skankadelphia.

    I like Eagles big here.  Redskins' D is mess and Eagles should be able to outscore them by two TDs no matter how effective cousins is.  Regardless, Coughlin makes the decisions in this conference, so he'll just tell either Kelly or Gruden what's what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrill:

    Division game on short week coming off a big road win on MNF...take the points.  Orapko and Kerrigan gonna give patchwork O-Line problems for Eagles.  Hopefully they can still pull out the win.

    You misspelled Dexter Manley, oh that's right, you can't spell, because you are from Skankadelphia.

    I like Eagles big here.  Redskins' D is mess and Eagles should be able to outscore them by two TDs no matter how effective cousins is.  Regardless, Coughlin makes the decisions in this conference, so he'll just tell either Kelly or Gruden what's what.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2014 - 5:44 PM ET #6

    The Skins will be a much better team with RG3 out.  He is not a smart person, it is obvious to anyone who watched all the games he lost on his own last year.  This team will be 9-7 or 10-6 and win division.  Dallas/Giants/Philly are all bad to medium.  Great future bet is on SB at 100-1.  I'm not insane but by far best long shot.  They will win this game, well unless they get extra players on the field like they did against the Colts.  I had Philly but the refs should all be fined for that garbage.

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    The Skins will be a much better team with RG3 out.  He is not a smart person, it is obvious to anyone who watched all the games he lost on his own last year.  This team will be 9-7 or 10-6 and win division.  Dallas/Giants/Philly are all bad to medium.  Great future bet is on SB at 100-1.  I'm not insane but by far best long shot.  They will win this game, well unless they get extra players on the field like they did against the Colts.  I had Philly but the refs should all be fined for that garbage.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2014 - 10:22 PM ET #7

    washington beats jacksonville and all of you guys are talking about how they are going to win on the road against the division favorite and make it to the superbowl... yikes

    i'll pass or take philly
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    washington beats jacksonville and all of you guys are talking about how they are going to win on the road against the division favorite and make it to the superbowl... yikes

    i'll pass or take philly
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 4:57 AM ET #8

    Imagine if Philly finally plays both halves instead of coming back from the 1st?

    If so..... This one gets ugly for Washington. 

    PHILLY and OVER

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    Imagine if Philly finally plays both halves instead of coming back from the 1st?

    If so..... This one gets ugly for Washington. 

    PHILLY and OVER

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 7:59 AM ET #9

    This game stays UNDER the total, guaranteed.
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    This game stays UNDER the total, guaranteed.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2014 - 9:37 AM ET #10

    This game stays UNDER the total, guaranteed.
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    This game stays UNDER the total, guaranteed.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 4:11 PM ET #11

    The main thing you gotta worry about Chip Kelly is he doesn't stop. There's no kneel downs or "Victory Formations" with this guy. And if the other team starts taking the knee, he's still coming after you like The Terminator.

    That's why 5.5 gets me thinking a little, but someone earlier said Cousins is better over RG III. I agree with that, the pocket passers rule the game. I've said it before, these running/option Q.B.'s just take too much abuse to have a long career, and once they lose a step, that seems to be it. Also none of them would I consider a pinpoint accurate passer. Look at one of the G.O.A.T.'s - Dan Marino. How many total career rushing yards? 87. That's 87 total rushing yards over a 17 YEAR CAREER!!!!!!!! And I'm sure most of those "rushes" were him just scrambling looking to throw or eating the ball. That should tell you something right there.....

    Anyways - Philly S/U in a teaser, maybe, but I like Redskins & the points better.

    Good Luck All.......

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    The main thing you gotta worry about Chip Kelly is he doesn't stop. There's no kneel downs or "Victory Formations" with this guy. And if the other team starts taking the knee, he's still coming after you like The Terminator.

    That's why 5.5 gets me thinking a little, but someone earlier said Cousins is better over RG III. I agree with that, the pocket passers rule the game. I've said it before, these running/option Q.B.'s just take too much abuse to have a long career, and once they lose a step, that seems to be it. Also none of them would I consider a pinpoint accurate passer. Look at one of the G.O.A.T.'s - Dan Marino. How many total career rushing yards? 87. That's 87 total rushing yards over a 17 YEAR CAREER!!!!!!!! And I'm sure most of those "rushes" were him just scrambling looking to throw or eating the ball. That should tell you something right there.....

    Anyways - Philly S/U in a teaser, maybe, but I like Redskins & the points better.

    Good Luck All.......

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 5:48 PM ET #12

    Well, last night's MASSACRE in the ATL has quite a bit to do with this match-up. Atlanta-Philly possess the same Matrix patters and when ever one plays out before the other gets going, the 2nd game goes opposite. Meaning, since Atlanta covered, Philly will not. This is how they keep most of the math Dork's like myself at bay. 

    Listen, The Matrix is is group of numerical patterns within a Matrix. It's called the "elements of entry." This is how you hide or shortcut important different equations. It's well documented that Vegas heads sought out these M.I.T. nerds way back in the 70's. So it took me a lifetime to get a grasp on the way they stopped and turned every which way. But it wasn't until I found out about their computer simulation that even calculates each individual's 40-Time and relative strength. After the score is spit out in lightning speed, the Dork's go to work on their equations and encode the outcome for all those Big giant hotel investors. 

    WASHINGTON REDSKINS (+6.5 )

    BTW, just to be clear, it's not just the fact that the lines are identical between Philly and Atlanta that makes this a play. That's just one simple factor. 
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    Well, last night's MASSACRE in the ATL has quite a bit to do with this match-up. Atlanta-Philly possess the same Matrix patters and when ever one plays out before the other gets going, the 2nd game goes opposite. Meaning, since Atlanta covered, Philly will not. This is how they keep most of the math Dork's like myself at bay. 

    Listen, The Matrix is is group of numerical patterns within a Matrix. It's called the "elements of entry." This is how you hide or shortcut important different equations. It's well documented that Vegas heads sought out these M.I.T. nerds way back in the 70's. So it took me a lifetime to get a grasp on the way they stopped and turned every which way. But it wasn't until I found out about their computer simulation that even calculates each individual's 40-Time and relative strength. After the score is spit out in lightning speed, the Dork's go to work on their equations and encode the outcome for all those Big giant hotel investors. 

    WASHINGTON REDSKINS (+6.5 )

    BTW, just to be clear, it's not just the fact that the lines are identical between Philly and Atlanta that makes this a play. That's just one simple factor. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2014 - 9:56 PM ET #13

    Washington Redskins + 7
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    Washington Redskins + 7
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 11:33 AM ET #14

    9 of the last 10 games between wash/phi the Fav has covered.  As much as I like Cpt. Kirk .. I don't see that trend changing. The eagles pace will kill the redskins..
    That's the beauty of Kelly,s offense. If they don't gash you by the quick pace of the snaps.. By the 2nd half your defense is too tired to cover their team and tackle properly.
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    9 of the last 10 games between wash/phi the Fav has covered.  As much as I like Cpt. Kirk .. I don't see that trend changing. The eagles pace will kill the redskins..
    That's the beauty of Kelly,s offense. If they don't gash you by the quick pace of the snaps.. By the 2nd half your defense is too tired to cover their team and tackle properly.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2014 - 8:21 PM ET #15

    Philly for the win and cover at home
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    Philly for the win and cover at home
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 12:00 AM ET #16

    I am having problem with 5.5 spread  2 of there best players out on the road against a play off team with very hi scoring offence still only 5.5 and going down fishy all the way that mean Washington
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    I am having problem with 5.5 spread  2 of there best players out on the road against a play off team with very hi scoring offence still only 5.5 and going down fishy all the way that mean Washington
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 2:07 AM ET #17

    No ones talking about this skin defense, you're all focusing on the completely wrong thing here. This skin defense is a. healthy, b. vastly improved from last year. Philly got gashed by a horrible running team in indy last week. Skins moneyline all day for me in this one, the skins are the better team here and foles looks inaccurate making even basic dump off throws. You can get away with that vs. terrible defenses like indy and the jags, but that won't work against  a decent defense. 
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    No ones talking about this skin defense, you're all focusing on the completely wrong thing here. This skin defense is a. healthy, b. vastly improved from last year. Philly got gashed by a horrible running team in indy last week. Skins moneyline all day for me in this one, the skins are the better team here and foles looks inaccurate making even basic dump off throws. You can get away with that vs. terrible defenses like indy and the jags, but that won't work against  a decent defense. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 2:13 AM ET #18

    BEST PLAY PICK

    OVER 51

    I see a very close game. After reviewing much attention variables in this game, I see a victory for Philadelphia for less than 7 points, but still would bet that Philadelphia wins this game by 6 points, more than 7 points would cover no. The selection that I like is the OVER, but the end result would be by 52 or 54 points over a very closed.
    Prediction: 29-23 PHILADELPHIA. 
    Good luck friends.
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    BEST PLAY PICK

    OVER 51

    I see a very close game. After reviewing much attention variables in this game, I see a victory for Philadelphia for less than 7 points, but still would bet that Philadelphia wins this game by 6 points, more than 7 points would cover no. The selection that I like is the OVER, but the end result would be by 52 or 54 points over a very closed.
    Prediction: 29-23 PHILADELPHIA. 
    Good luck friends.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 6:43 AM ET #19

    Kurt cousins gives them the best chance to win this game and be successful there, he is an actual pocket qb. Taking away rg3s legs and making him a pocket passer, is about as beneficial to him as food for a meth addict, you can put it out there doesnt mean it will get eaten, same concept he is an athlete at qb let him be that or trade him and stick with thee best qb on the team anyway
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    Kurt cousins gives them the best chance to win this game and be successful there, he is an actual pocket qb. Taking away rg3s legs and making him a pocket passer, is about as beneficial to him as food for a meth addict, you can put it out there doesnt mean it will get eaten, same concept he is an athlete at qb let him be that or trade him and stick with thee best qb on the team anyway
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 6:45 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

    EVERYONE going to love Phi, not me i like the points also might like me some ML on WAS!!
    im born and raised here in philly if you can get the skins +6 jump all over it, cousins is the real deal and will light that defense up. But the birds will do the same 31-27 final birds skins and over
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRxKrazz:

    EVERYONE going to love Phi, not me i like the points also might like me some ML on WAS!!
    im born and raised here in philly if you can get the skins +6 jump all over it, cousins is the real deal and will light that defense up. But the birds will do the same 31-27 final birds skins and over
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 6:47 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Dogjimbo:

    Imagine if Philly finally plays both halves instead of coming back from the 1st?

    If so..... This one gets ugly for Washington. 

    PHILLY and OVER

     
    Def love the over but around here in philly the line is already 6.5 im hoping it goes to 7 here then im all the cousins keeping it close 31-27 shootout 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogjimbo:

    Imagine if Philly finally plays both halves instead of coming back from the 1st?

    If so..... This one gets ugly for Washington. 

    PHILLY and OVER

     
    Def love the over but around here in philly the line is already 6.5 im hoping it goes to 7 here then im all the cousins keeping it close 31-27 shootout 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 7:18 AM ET #22

    NCAA (all posted on covers.com "Thread")

    Last week: 6 wins/1 lose (85.7%)

    This week: 5 wins/2 lose (71.4%)

    NFL (all posted on covers.com "Thread")

    Pre-Season 1 win/0 lose/1 tie (100%)

    Week #1: 10 wins/5 lose (66.6%)

    Week #2: 6 wins/7 lose/1 tie (46.1%) - terrible week (sorry!)

    This week 1st set:

    Philadelphia -5.5, Philadelphia Under 51, Minnesota Over 49, Detroit -2, Jacksonville +7.5, N. England -13.5.

    GL

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    NCAA (all posted on covers.com "Thread")

    Last week: 6 wins/1 lose (85.7%)

    This week: 5 wins/2 lose (71.4%)

    NFL (all posted on covers.com "Thread")

    Pre-Season 1 win/0 lose/1 tie (100%)

    Week #1: 10 wins/5 lose (66.6%)

    Week #2: 6 wins/7 lose/1 tie (46.1%) - terrible week (sorry!)

    This week 1st set:

    Philadelphia -5.5, Philadelphia Under 51, Minnesota Over 49, Detroit -2, Jacksonville +7.5, N. England -13.5.

    GL

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 9:03 AM ET #23


      MNF PHILLY HANGVER

    Post MNF ,NFC Division Matchups =

    9 - 22 ATS 

    IMO ,  little room for surprises in this heated , familiar rivalry.
     7 pt line is like rubbing Salt in open wounds 
    after LY's  Philly Sweep.
    New year , early season ,Skins are fresh + in Payback mode.
    As much as I dislike both Deadskins n' Beagles except mine hunting dog, It's so damn clear Skin QB Cousin, revs Skin offense in more rounded and complete way than RG3 +
    IMO Skins have better D than Philly .

    + 7  
                                         

                 Waiting for Colonel Benediction n' Quad Babes 
    wink of approval .
     In other words ...
    Make em Bend over Quad .
     
    BOLA
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      MNF PHILLY HANGVER

    Post MNF ,NFC Division Matchups =

    9 - 22 ATS 

    IMO ,  little room for surprises in this heated , familiar rivalry.
     7 pt line is like rubbing Salt in open wounds 
    after LY's  Philly Sweep.
    New year , early season ,Skins are fresh + in Payback mode.
    As much as I dislike both Deadskins n' Beagles except mine hunting dog, It's so damn clear Skin QB Cousin, revs Skin offense in more rounded and complete way than RG3 +
    IMO Skins have better D than Philly .

    + 7  
                                         

                 Waiting for Colonel Benediction n' Quad Babes 
    wink of approval .
     In other words ...
    Make em Bend over Quad .
     
    BOLA
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 11:04 AM ET #24

    Rg3 hurt again doing Washington a favor. Kirk has shown before he is a capable backup probably should be starter. Kendricks is out so that means Philly run defense will be soft. Alfred Morris may have his 1st 100 yard game. Won't be surprised if Desean plays he'll be used as a decoy, maybe make 1 biig play.

    Philly can't start off slow again or they'll get burned this time. Although Philly has covered at home quite a bit since Foles took over last season..Philly is also notorious for not covering at home. I think Washington keeps this close and possibly win it
    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Rg3 hurt again doing Washington a favor. Kirk has shown before he is a capable backup probably should be starter. Kendricks is out so that means Philly run defense will be soft. Alfred Morris may have his 1st 100 yard game. Won't be surprised if Desean plays he'll be used as a decoy, maybe make 1 biig play.

    Philly can't start off slow again or they'll get burned this time. Although Philly has covered at home quite a bit since Foles took over last season..Philly is also notorious for not covering at home. I think Washington keeps this close and possibly win it
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2014 - 12:37 PM ET #25

    Game of the Century!!!

    Washington has probably one of the best defenses in the NFL. 

    162.00 total yards passing allowed thus far. Foles passing will be a non factor. Arian Foster was held to 100 yards when they played the Texans.

    Enter the pocket passer. "Captain Kirk" is going to beam up the Eagles D in this game and this will be that game that people take notice. This game will make it hard for RG3 to ever get back to a starting role with any team for the rest of his career. Washington runs the ball better than Philly does. 

    Im a Dallas fan and I hate the Redskins. But this one is gonna be a barn burner. Scored 16 unanswered points in 4th quarter against philly last year with RG3. 


    REDSKINS for the LARGE   


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    Game of the Century!!!

    Washington has probably one of the best defenses in the NFL. 

    162.00 total yards passing allowed thus far. Foles passing will be a non factor. Arian Foster was held to 100 yards when they played the Texans.

    Enter the pocket passer. "Captain Kirk" is going to beam up the Eagles D in this game and this will be that game that people take notice. This game will make it hard for RG3 to ever get back to a starting role with any team for the rest of his career. Washington runs the ball better than Philly does. 

    Im a Dallas fan and I hate the Redskins. But this one is gonna be a barn burner. Scored 16 unanswered points in 4th quarter against philly last year with RG3. 


    REDSKINS for the LARGE   


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